"we" did the right thing....no, you're wrong there.....a lot of
Posted By: smsmsmsm on 2009-01-05
In Reply to: Common sense, street smarts and intelligence would be ideal. - sm
people, mostly young, were bamboozled.
"We" did not do the righ thing...
Unless you like total government control, and social medicine, and social economics.....
We may never recover from President Obama, at least not in my lifetime.
I did not vote for him. I wish him well, but his choices as he is leading up to his inauguration do not bode well for our country on a whole, especially our children and grandchildren.
Libs refuse to call it socialism.
But that's what we're putting into office.
Bush opened the door a crack.
Obama intends to play on our fears and take full advantage of them.
Maybe when all your rights are gone, when govt has total control over your healthcare, your mortgage, your loans, your 401K....maybe then, you will understand what is happening right under your nose, and finally see what you have lost.
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"we" did the right thing....no, you're wrong there.....a lot of
people, mostly young, were bamboozled.
"We" did not do the righ thing...
Unless you like total government control, and social medicine, and social economics.....etc......
We may never recover from President Obama and his "change", at least not in my lifetime.
I did not vote for him. I wish him well, but his choices as he is leading up to his inauguration do not bode well for our country on a whole, especially our children and grandchildren, who will be left to foot the bill, and have less rights than we do now.
Libs refuse to call it socialism.
But that's what we're putting into office.
Bush opened the door a crack.
Obama intends to play on our fears and take full advantage of them.
The barn door is wide open, and the winner take all (Obama). "Never let a good crisis go to waste" as his team has recently stated.
He has, and will, take full advantage of our fears, as even he, Obama, was the fear monger today.
Maybe when all your rights are gone, when govt has total control over your healthcare, your mortgage, your loans, your 401K, (and other things I can't even imagine as of yet unveiled b....maybe then, you will understand what is happening right under your nose, and finally see what you have lost.
"We" know no such thing. Please do not
The scope of the issue is obviously beyond your comprehension.
"we" blame Bush for what he did wrong, sorry if you cannot bear to....sm
take the blinders off. I thought Bill Clinton was a great Preident and humanitarian, but a LOUSY husband, but the country did not marry Clinton, and the Pubs with Ken Star and his WITCH HUNT went after Bill for what he did in his private sexual life that had nothing to do with his job as President. Wow, we impeached the guy and spent millions of tax dollars doing it!!! Yay! But he still led us one of the most prosperous times in American History budget-wise, and if he is kinky in his bedroom, so what? Do you want someone in your bedroom? What do you guys use as a measure for success? Blind loyalty was what REALLY got all the people to drink the Kool-Aid down in Jonestown, and with all the denial about the Bush years, I feel like we are down there in that jungle.
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But valuing over the price of a dollar is a right thing wing thing, so you are on the wrong board. n
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One thing you have wrong for sure. Liberals are so
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Your friend did the wrong thing.
She should have taken responsibiilty for her actions.
Perhaps if she had had a bit of self control and not rooted around with the guy without being married, she wouldn't have put herself in that position.
Your friend's story is disgusting and totally cliche. She found a nice family to adopt the baby she didn't want to be bothered with, but let the 'dirtbag' who banged her (my, she must have great taste in men) talk her into murder.
With friends like that, who needs terrorists?
Women need to close their legs and stop playing the victim.
I thought the same thing but was wrong
Have gotten to finally draw mine after all those longgggg years. One thing that I wish others would do and that is not be so early to retire if healthy to stay on. Think it would be almost impossible for most to retire at my age and then find another job, at least outside of MTing.
Wrong, the thing he regrets most in his life is....sm
what he did to his first wife. By the way, he was not exonerated of any wrongdoing, he was exonerated of any CRIMINAL wrongdoing, although that is questionable in my mind. Both McCain and Palin sing the same tune when accused of unethical behavior, denial, just like Palin still denies ANY wrongdoing with regard to troopergate even though rebuked by the Alaska legislature. Basically it all comes down to poor judgement and thinking you are above the law, something we do not want in another president. We have had way enough of that! Some people just cannot handle power without being corrupted.
Blatent lie is the only thing wrong with this picture.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Children's_Health_Insurance_Program
Question. What does the first S in SCHIPS stand for? STATE. OK. So here we have federal funding provided TO STATES for administration under very broad federal guidelines. Age is defined as birth to 18. Income guidelines define chideren in families living between poverty level and up to 200% of poverty level. Beyond that, it is up to the STATES to determine their own guidelines and eligibility criteria.
Care to post a source for your information that disputes this info?
You're wrong...
Everybody is innocent until proven guilt for me. That's the American way. I'm not picking and choosing who suits me to be guilty or innocent. As for somebody's life being in jeopardy, that's isn't even mentioned in the indictment. In fact, it may be that the woman wasn't outed at all, being that she pushed paper at a desk and everybody and his cousin knew where she worked. I think this is either payback for the Ken Starr investigation or an attempt to park a dark cloud of suspicion over the White House, being that even with everything that is going wrong the polls show that 44% of the country would vote for a Democrat and 44% of the country would vote for a Republican if an election were held today. The Democrats have no solutions, so they try to discredit the Republicans so that they'll at least get a vote against the Reblicans to put them back in the White House.
Actually, you're wrong about that.
See link. Some people believe anything they are told, I guess.
http://www.econedlink.org/lessons/index.cfm?lesson=EM219
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Oh, you're quite wrong.
I would have replied exactly as I did whatever your gender. I might have substituted "Bub" for "my dear", but that makes no difference.
Trying to portray yourself as the poor widdle victim of misogynistic meanies is no different from someone misplaying the race card in order to deflect unpleasant truths.
Grow up.
Yup. You're wrong.
If they put up a statue to that pathetic joke, AL Gore, "inventor of the Internet" and "Chicken-Little of Global Warming (NOT!)", then I want to be a pigeon. And incidentally, I'd like the honor of being the first one.
Take your judgments and take a hike.
There is one thing wrong with his claim of going "line by line".....
The O can spout until the day is done that he will go over every item line by line and take out the ear marks and pork, etc. But there is one thing he needs and that the president will never get is something called....
Line item veto. Until the president gets that power (and he never will), he can't cut anything out of the budget.
He can veto until the cows come home, but all it takes is a 2/3 majority of congress to overthrow a presidential veto. End of story.
Until he gets line item power, pork will always abound in any budget or bill that comes across his desk.
I agree with you and yet I'm still wrong. You're only here..sm
for a fight and you know it. Even when I agree you still are in attack mode.
Please show some accountability and show me where I said you mentioned this administration. I said we may never see eye to eye on the administration and from your vicious attacks here on the liberal board gives me the impression that you see nothing wrong in Iraq, but that we are not sending care packages. That's been your main argument here.
You are the one imagining things. You cant even grasp the fact that a liberal (myself) was actually agreeing with you about the care packages, so you had to turn it all around and start the argument that I shouldn't send anything. You have a lot of anger in you and it's not my fault. I'm sorry my dear, I can not separate the fact that our soldiers need care packages from the administration that sent them to war, but they need them nonetheless. Like I said I will do whatever my heart leads me to do, and you and YOUR bitterness will have no say in the matter.
pssst...you're both wrong, too bad.
That's what happens when you swallow your bait whole on Faux News! By now everyone should know that Sheehan was never even asked to zip up her jacket and stated that if she had been, she would have done so without any problem.
Also, it was revealed several days later that there is NO law against wearing shirts with statements or political messages at the SOTU. The Capitol police have apologized for their mistake. Right.
So, turns out that Sheehan (who Bush just happens not to like)did nothing more than accept an invitation, wear a preferred shirt and show up in her assigned seat. All the silly nonsense about unfurling a banner or refusing to cooperate with police or being a nuisance was no more than lies spread by the very people who are constitutionally incapable of telling the truth, cowards afraid to be in the presence of anyone who disagrees with them, even if that person is totally silent - and they will break, bend, twist and contort the law in any way they can to avoid having the truth look them in the eye.
Unfortunately, they have too many Americans duped into believing and repeating their nasty little memes every time they are vomited out.
Nope you're wrong
I haven't posted here in quite a while. And as I said, there are apparently quite a few others that post here. When some of us see your posts deteriorate into bullying and name-calling we speak up about it. It's as simple as that.
I think you're numbers are wrong. The top 5% of
the U.S. makes millions and billions. $200,000 is NOT the 'top 5%' of the country. It's definitely more than a single, head-of-household MT makes, but depending on where you live, it won't put you in that mansion on the hill, either.
When he talks about raising taxes on the top 5%, he's not talking about YOU. He's talking about people like Bill Gates. He's talking about huge corporations (like the oil industry, tobacco industry, HMO & insurance industries, etc.) that rake it in, and then have a jillion and a half loopholes and secret cubbyholes to stash it in.
You're in the wrong place s/m
If you want an objective, nonbiased opinion don't expect to find it on this forum. Read the ridiculous stuff aimed at ditzing Obama. Ridiculous. My suggestion is to watch the candidates as much as possible and listen carefully to what they say. You can also usually find video clips of their stump speeches, etc. on Yahoo. Don't depend on anyone to make up your mind for you, do your research and vote your conscience. That's the best I have to offer. No use being reduced to tears.
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You're Wrong, Kendra
We didn't invade Iraq because "Saddam Hussein was well on his way to becoming another Hitler." You have no idea what you're talking about, Kendra. We invaded Iraq because of a pack of filthy lies by a pack of filthy liars who lied about WMDs and yellowcake uranium, and the list goes on and on and on....
"Fighting a little on other soil." Nice turn of phrase, Kendra. How about 4243 American military personnel killed since Bush's war began? How about somewhere over 90,000 Iraqi civilian casualties since Bush's war began? How many Iraqis participated in the 9/11 attacks, Kendra? ZERO. How is invading Iraq defending our way of life, Kendra? AL Qaeda in Iraq DIDN'T EXIST until Bush's war. How about a price tag of $3 TRILLION and counting, Kendra?
Anybody who claims to be against the cost of the stimulus bill while turning a blind eye to the human and monetary cost of Bush's war in Iraq is a hypocrite of the worst kind.
Well, how YOU think she looks, you're right, I'm wrong, now u r happy........nm
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Well, how YOU think she looks, you're right, I'm wrong, now u r happy........nm
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Yep still in Ohio and you're still wrong sm
Guess we play by different rules down here. Ya'll come down and see us some time.
I don't know where you found your info, but here is info I found at this website under food stamps fact sheet: http://jfs.ohio.gov/families/food/index.stm
Doesn't say anything about being taxable or not and definitely does not specifically forbid soda.
What can be bought with food stamp benefits?
Food stamp benefits can be used to buy most food or food products intended for human consumption. Items which
may not be purchased with food stamps include alcoholic beverages, tobacco, hot food and hot food products
that are prepared to be eaten immediately. Individuals who receive food stamp benefits may not sell or trade food
stamp benefits, buy nonfood items or use food stamp benefits to buy food for someone who is not a member of
the household.
Ah, but you see, you're wrong again. (Are you masochistic or something?)
LOADS of folks on the forum get my humor (for instance, please read the testimonials posted by my mother and sister - both of whom are of the female persuasion) - among others. I'm putting them into a scrapbook.
...and I think you meant "THERE you sit", since I checked and didn't find you hiding under my desk. Wait, though. I forgot about the trash basket.
Excuse me, but I think you're wrong. (sm)
Those who hate JTBB and continously nip at her heels like pesky, rabid chihuahuas are allowed to communicate with her in any manner they choose, the more hate filled, the better.
It's those posters who try to be polite, those posters who understand and (God forbid) AGREE with JTBB who aren't welcome here.
What I usually come away with after reading one of JTBB's posts is an opinion with a very well thought-out opinion borne from a lot of research.
She's one of the fairest minded and intelligent people to post on this board, in my opinion, and for having that opinion, I'm sure the fire will be aimed in my direction for having the unmitigated gall to say something NICE about her, when only the most hateful insults towards JTBB are tolerated here.
P.S. to the person who demands how everyone communicates on this board: JTBB is being singled out by a person who is interested in discussion of issues and isn't interested in bashing, insulting and bullying. There are very few, if any, on this board who fit that profile.
You're right about one thing
People had better smarten up but I doubt that's likely to happen.
So we don't have socialism now. What exactly do we have? Our government (Democrats AND Republicans) support more illegal immigration and rewarding the criminal illegals with citizenship, never mind what the people want. Didn't they both support the huge bail-out? BOTH parties. How many of the people supported that? What good is it going to do? None. Now aren't they saying that we'll have to wait and see if it works and more bail-outs may be necessary.
So will someone tell me just exactly what kind of government it is we have now? The Republicans had rule for the past few years. Very recently both dubya and McCain...didn't they say the "economy was fundamentally sound?" LIES??? Youbetcha.
How any sheep can follow either of these parties to the slaughter is far beyond me. And sheep is what most Americans are. I'm tempted to say that those who enthusiastically support EITHER candidate deserve what they get. The problem is, I, myself, don't particularly want to go along for the ride.
You're right about one thing...(sm)
there will be 2 parties, but the current religious right wingnuts won't be one of them. There were only 3 moderate pubs left in the senate. With Specter moving to the dem side, there are only 2, and they vote more like independents. What does that leave the GOP with? The religious rightwing nutjobs...and yes, they (you) are losing ground on a daily basis.
Well, you're right about one thing....(sm)
He doesn't call himself a republican. He calls himself a "conservative traditionalist." What does that mean?
Definition:
Traditionalist conservatism, also known as "traditionalism," is a political philosophy that developed in the United States. It tends to emphasize cultural renewal and is characterized by an adherence to the principles of prescription (law), custom (law), social order, hierarchy, faith, the natural family, ordered liberty, and tradition. It may be said to have affinities with reactionary thought, and some adherents of this movement perhaps embrace that label, defying the stigma that has attached to it in Western culture since the Enlightenment.
Traditionalist conservatism emerged after World War II in the writings of a group of university professors (labeled the "New Conservatives" by the popular press of the time) who rejected the notions of individualism, liberalism, modernity, and social progress[1] and revived interest in what T. S. Eliot referred to as "the permanent things" (those perennial institutions that ground society: the church, the family, the state, community life, etc.).
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In other words, far right republican. And no, he doesn't defend "anybody." He is notorious for promoting the far right's agenda and has been for years. Believe me, he's not laying off of Sotomayor because he doesn't want to discriminate. He's laying off of her because he knows it will hurt his party.
You're on the wrong board, aren't you?
Twist away, the truth is out there. Sam's right. You're wrong. nm
I think you responded to the wrong person here. You're
My whole point was that the UK is not the country to talk about banning "extreme" ideas. They're loaded with extremists yammering on every street corner and advocating violent jihad.
You're right - the whole SP thing is the 'pubicans
tactics for distracting the public so that they won't notice that by voting for Sarah (and oh, yes.... JM goes along with the package as a 'token' presidential figure), they'll be voting themselves another 4 years of economic misery, and world instability. If that happens, then the US deserves whatever nastiness is waiting around the next corner.
For one thing, that you're not informed
of the truth (which I posted below) and are spreading the "mandatory" myth, which inflames and upsets people.
Obama's programs are inclusive and designed for those who choose to participate for the good of the country, to bring us closer together. If you want no part of that, then, that's your choice, and though I personally think it's sad, it's probably for the best. Either way, it's your CHOICE and is NOT MANDATORY.
The thing is you're not giving him
I agree, we were brutally raped by the last adminstration and I am also wary, but for crying out loud, you are making these statements after less than a week in office. You can't justify that by saying you're "keeping an eye" on the government? If that statement is true, then you have to give the man a REASONABLE amount of time to implement his agenda. The engine hasn't even cooled down on the moving trucks yet. Don't be unrealistic, you lose credibility that way.
You're right about one thing, Patty.
Your mental disease is downright UGLY!!
Yes, you're right. It's the kindest thing to do.
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you're wrong, S. FLA the illegals paid on the books
at least the ones I know.....the ones who did arrive with at least a visa.....and who get paid off a company payroll and not off the books or in cash is what I mean....
Kinky. I think you're on the wrong message board.
Sicko!
Then you're apparently listening in the wrong places. nm
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You're stuck on pub thing aren't you.... not
prefer to think for myself unlike you who obviously needs someone to do it for ya. I don't care for government, let alone more of it.
ROFL! I guess the same thing you're doing.
 Have you noticed that your neck hurts from shaking your head a lot???
They're always putting out this sort of thing, actually.
...just round-file it.
Yep, you're right....it was probably that pesky "sm" poster typed in wrong....my bad.
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I think you are saying the same thing. No need to argue when you're making the same point...nm
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what "we" want is hardly the
issue. The "folks" are gonna vote based on the level of reasoning they use in their everyday lives. Will they vote from fear and the idea that the devil one knows is better than the devil one does not know. Will they vote based on reasoned assessment that the country is circling the drain after 8 years of republican rule and the only hope is to wrest control of the country from their incompetent hands? I am pleased with the way the polls are trending. They are more thinking americans than there are cowering americans. We'll try to save you even if you are dragged into the light kicking and screaming.
"We have seen this movie before...
it's called Hugo Chavez and Venezuela." PERFECT comeback. And I got blasted for suggesting there were liberals in Congress who wanted to nationalize oil. So I will say it again...far left liberals like Maxine Waters, Barack Obama, Ted Kennedy to name a few...ARE socialists, just more sneaky about it...until she just got ticked and blurted it out. We better ALL hope they don't go there. That is the danger of voting in socialists. Good-bye America, hello Venezuela.
"We've got them just where we want them." JM.
This is what we hear after being told JM would make a statement on the economy.
"WE" were never told about anything.....
That's the problem. We, the citizens of this country, the ones who the govt is supposed to work FOR, put this into law without even Congress being consulted....without congressional consent...PERIOD!
The only "objectives" are being pushed through quietly by Obama and unless people wake up and start protesting loudly and clearly, and taking back this country, we are going to be another russia.... for those that don't believe that, then ask yourself why Russian politicans AND European politicians are telling Obama he needs to stop what he is doing, that he is heading down the wrong path; the very one THEY have already been down! How telling is that?!
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