Yep, the "if its true" factor.
Posted By: -Libby on 2008-02-13
In Reply to: The Vietnam Vets call McCain "Songbird." sm - LVMT
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No "If"
He didn't say "If I am president" He said "When I am president"
I'll try to find a clip where he says it, but I remember him saying it because I remember commenting to my husband that it was odd to say that instead of "If"
Correction - This..."If you are not with me, you are against me."
is Bush's motto.
What part of "if and when" did you not understand?
Please go back and read the post slowly and pay attention.
I didn't say that depends on what the definition of "IF"
There is a big difference between IF and WHEN. IF I said "...If I go to the store" or "...when I go to the store" IF means I may go to the store, WHEN means I WILL go to the store.
The other poster said that Mccain was saying he was going to be president and I pointed out that so did Obama and I gave PROOF from his OWN site.
"If the laws in this country are not going to be enforced, what's the point of having them?
Would that include Proposition 8 that was recently upheld as lawful? ;-)
actually, it is not a factor
in my voting choice. Progressives can understand human fraility. As we all know, in this sexy-sexy business of medical transcription, one can face some rompin' stompin, fierce temptations. John Edwards went way past the mark with the baby and the coverup and all. Look at the man who replaced Elliott Spitzer. He 'fessed up right away and no one ever speaks of it anymore.
Credibility Factor
Wow, if my in-laws (in their 80s) knew that they were looked upon like that, I'd get a black eye (and deserve it) Incidentally, they could do it, too. They travel abroad, work out, all that stuff.
Maybe we should get a little sampling of how many fossilized 70YOs there are out there. I'm embarrassed for you.
It also seems to me that anyone who could endure the worst imaginable torture for 5 years must be made of something.
Is that the best ya got?
Because the rumor factor has taken this to mean
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Here is where that comes from......fear factor
Brad Sherman is right....sorry bunch of cowardly people we put in there who brown-nose out of nothing more than fear that they feed on with each other. Nothing written in cement.....just the fear factor!
http://revolutionarypolitics.com/
actually he says that would not be a qualifying factor -
I've never imposed a litmus test on Supreme Court nominees
Q: Could you ever nominate someone to the Supreme Court who disagrees with you on Roe v. Wade?
McCAIN: I would never, and have never in all the years I've been there, imposed a litmus test on any nominee to the Court. That's not appropriate to do.
Q: But you don't want Roe v. Wade to be overturned?
McCAIN: I thought it was a bad decision. I think that decision should rest in the hands of the states. I'm a federalist. And I believe strongly that we should have nominees to the Supreme Court based on their qualifications rather than any litmus test. They should be judged on their qualifications. I will find the best people in America who have a history of strict adherence to the Constitution. And not legislating from the bench.
Q: Even if it was someone who had a history of being for abortion rights?
McCAIN: I would consider anyone on their qualifications. Someone who has supported Roe v. Wade, that would be part of those qualifications. But I certainly would not impose any litmus test.
Source: 2008 third presidential debate against Barack Obama Oct 15, 2008
Trust factor
You know, Sam, I don't know if Obama is trustworthy or not. I don't know him and I don't know John McCain. I think we would all do well to keep an eye on the direction of our country. I really, really thought McCain would end up in the White House but with the landslide electorate vote I don't see any way that could possibly happen now. Maybe it would be a good idea to get to work on doing away with the electorate. The popular vote should be enough. It appears to me that elections are decided really just by a few states.
Sooooooo I'm not really sure that we have time to worry about whether we trust the new president or not. I don't trust any politicians but the cards have been dealt and there's plenty we all need to do.
Our next President WILL be a huge factor
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I saw clips of that on The O'Reilly Factor.
I was cracking up. "Your name is Joy. You're supposed to be joyful." LOL! If she wants to be on a TV show like that, she really does need to lighten up and at least add to the conversation instead of just acting like she has a severe case of PMS.
Does the calculator also factor in lies!
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The running mate will be an important factor
I think McCain really needs a good running mate. I really liked Tancreda when he was running. A lot of my viewpoints aligned with his. I also like Ron Paul or Colin Powell (not sure if Powell is Dem or Rep), so if he picks a decent running mate who is "on the ball" about foreign and domestic issues (I think McCain is going to need all the help he can get) he may stand a good chance of winning, otherwise it's going to be hard to know who they will choose to be president.
The health care costs are the factor that
takes UAW hourly wages from $28 to $73, along with their other benefits, pension, matching funds and the like. The national insurance coverage was what I was referring when talking how the new administration may or may not impact this situation. The nonunion figures I gave are for the US Toyota workers. I don't think they can take advantage of the national insurance coverage the global Toyota workers have, but I could be mistaken. The more we talk about this, the more interesting it becomes. I wish I knew where to go to get reliable information on this.
Oh I sorry, yeah, sure the people are the deciding factor
Yeah, right people really are the ones who decide who the president will be. Yeah, right, okay.
Obama could produce FEAR FACTOR!
It's funny how Obama can ramble on and on and on about all the Americans out of jobs; however, he refuses to enforce the E-Verify bill already in place to make sure NO illegals continue to take their jobs, which they are. He couldn't give a rats butt about those jobs. The proof is in his lack of doing anything about the illegal invasion in this country. He's very good at using all his fear tactics with all his big adjectives and descriptives out the ying yang, but he hasn't done ONE SINGLE THING to stop American employers from giving illegals American citizens' jobs.
He's just wanting that stimulus package passed so bad, he'll continue to get on TV and promote more fear....................
And for those posters who said he has taken ALL THE PORK OUT DAYS AGO, get in the real world, will ya? He JUST said on his little announcement that there is PORK that needs to be taken out STILL. All I hear now is blah, blah, blah, blah.................
He can sign 5 executive orders in his first 3 days of office but he can't enforce E-Verify! That big fat smile doesn't make me melt and it doesn't fool me either. He ain't got what it takes.
Now all you O lovers can flame away........... then tell me why he can't enforce E-Verify! It's a law ya know!!! You'll probably have to look it up first.
If the profit factor (insurance companies)...
...is removed, we will save a TON of money.
Heard the same blather from the Oreilly rumor factor
the NY Times, Rasmussen, Gallup, etc., all in response to his dive in the ratings, taking third place behind KO and RM on MSNBC and AC on CNN. "They MUST be rigged," he blustered in protest. You don't like polls? Fine. Check out the electoral map.
http://election.princeton.edu/electoral-college-map/
The 'it' factor: Let's give Obama a change, at least...
the last 8 years were not good years.
Isn't charisma and attractiveness in all fields of life a major component for success? Besides all other qualifications?
I agree, corrected myself in a post below. I shouldn't have added that part as a factor nm
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That's true - and Barack Obama is a true Patriot too.
Again we can agree to disagree. How John McCain has voted goes against everything I want as a President, but there are an equal number of people to me who feel opposite. That's the way it goes.
Your last comment brought to mind how true that is. Being a true patriot is not harmful in a candidate. John McCain is a patriot. So is Barack Obama.
Everything you said is true and can be
easily seen by just reading the board.
At least it can be seen by most of us.
But it IS true.
I saw a feature on it. They had videotapes of the recruiters coaching the kids on how to pass a urine drug screen. It is absolutely true.
I don't think that is true at all. sm
I think a lot of people are pretty sick of Cindy and her histrionics. I don't see it as political at all. A lot of people aren't going to sit by this time for another Vietnam where the antiwar crowd totally influenced the way the war was run.
Not true. sm
They are pro troops and pro Israel. You are definitely not reading that board right. Is it the guns that offend you? Or the war with Islamic radicals who all want us dead? I mean, what EXACTLY offends you the most?
LOL!!! Oh how true! nm
Not true
Re-upped? He joined the military because all his friends did. Read Cindy's description of how he got hoodwinked into going. Re-upped? No.
LOL. I like that...so true...nm
When in doubt, blame Clinton.
the true me
Happy and peaceful but when I deal with rabid conservatives attacking me..I attack back..Happy and peaceful in my life and in my beliefs, you bet, totally..I can sleep well at night cause I know my ideology/politics help people, I help people..I am an extremely happy peaceful accepting person..However, when I get attacked, I can give as good as I get..I do have to say, the net does not show the true person, so I dont see the true you and you dont see the true me..I have met people who I have only known in the net and when we met, we became friends..So I would take with a grain of salt the impression you get of people over the net..we are much more..
So true sm
That clip would be hilarious if it were not so true. It is frightening how true it is.
It's true. SM
I remember Nan talking about it. It was way way back when some of us used to put our e-mails on line here.
This is SO true.nm
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True that is.
Lesson good.
Even if that was true (and I don't believe it is), so what?
The one thing the radical right wing HATES is the fact that we have freedom of religion in this country. We are all free (so far, anyway) to believe in whatever religion we choose. It might be Christianity, or it might be something else. Why does it even concern YOU how many Democrats are Christian? It's simply none of your business, yet you want to jump to conclusions that may or may not be true and judge an entire group of people based upon religious beliefs, some of which might be different from yours.
This is my main problem with the radical Christian right. They don't seem to believe that other religions are just as good as theirs. They believe theirs is the best, and anyone who doesn't share their specific religious beliefs are judged to be inferior people. You want to force your narrow views on everyone, and surely you must know that just isn't going to happen in America.
However, if Americans don't wake up soon and if you manage to wreck America and turn it into a theocracy, I can and WILL move to Canada in a heartbeat to escape your religious bigotry. By the way, wasn't that the reason this country was formed to begin with -- to end religious persecution?
I can only wonder why YOU haven't been nominated for Supreme Court justice, since you seem to have the only qualification required by Bush.
Oh, that's right. You're obviously not one of his close personal *friends* who worships him like a god and licks his boots.
Why should she? It's true!
NOT TRUE!
MT was responding to a CHALLENGE to people to put their *money where their mouth is* and if they think this war is so *noble,* then why don't they either enlist or sign up for civilian services over there.
MT said she WILL. NO PROBLEM. SHE WILL.
No spin. They are her words. She didn't say *might* or *would* or *maybe.* She said she WILL.
You're the one who's doing the spinning.
I know it's not true.
Completely false and irresponsible.
Yes, well, that may be true.
And this board is intolerant and extremely violently angry.
Now this isn't true.
I am disappointed in you, PK. We had a pretty good conversation on here at one time. I actually thought there was some communication and I have enjoyed posting here. I never sidetracked anything or anyone. I was on topic. However, many of the questions I have asked her in response to allegations have never ever been answered. Why is that?
How true.
LOL! If I didn't know in advance that this paragraph was about Ann Coultergeist, I would have sworn you were describing the Conservative Board. 
I know. Everything you said is true.
I hope you have a great 4th, LVMT. 
Not true
but nice try. :)
So true.
But more and more Americans are waking up every day and seeing how they have been deceived by this administration. I doubt that any of the die-hards on these boards will ever change their minds and see what's in front of their noses, but the good news is they represent an increasing minority in the USA today. :-)
This is true, we should be able to
hear the debate, but I have a problem with Bush debating anything...he is so embarrassing whenever he speaks...so embarrassing. We NEED a STATESMAN!!! and someone who has a command of the English language. Oh plleeeeze. (thud)
Not true...
It's rare that the baby is full term, but not all ectopic pregnancies fail.
Just thought I'd clear that up. :)
K
if what you say is true
Then by golly the Republicans surely have gone downhill a long, long, long ways recently. Especially if you judged them by the surly cruel posts made by the Republicans on this board!
Morally bankrupt Republicans with Annie Coulter at the helm!!!! He-he-he-he.. That ship is gonna sink!!
This is true.
But I have noticed that you always are civil. I think you are the only one on this board who keeps a level head, even when you come to the other board. Just an observation.
What you say is true,
but their president is cutting off his nose to spite his face. If we would just give him enough rope to hang himself I think he will take himself out. I understand he has become very unpopular, ignoring completely the platform he was elected on and the people are not happy. I believe he will be deposed one way or another and perhaps we will not have to invade yet a third country.
This is true, and here's why. sm
Or at least one reason why. When Rosie O'Donnell practically glorifies Sheik Mohammed on her show, not one voice from the liberals decrying this is heard. When the protesters marched and some of the signs were horrible, then burned a soldier in effigy, and in Arizona, dragged an American soldier effigy through the streets reminiscent of Somalia, not one voice from the Democrats is heard saying this is not right. I think the whole party has slid all the way down the slippery slope and over the edge.
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