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Absolutely not true. Show us your facts.

Posted By: I disagree nm on 2008-10-13
In Reply to: What are you talking about? The Biden/Obama - thing is a known fact

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Lies? What we show are facts, links, articles.
What about poor Palin?  She is a human being and look at the ATTACKS on her.  By the way, she is a republican and I would say Dem's are bashing.  We are not bashing Obama, we try to show you articles, links from CNN who by the way supported Obama, and you state we are bashing Obama.   
This is absolutely not true. Thank God for the ...sm
American Constitution. Adoption by anyone who is a citizen of another country does NOT waive their American citizenship. No one can do that for a minor. My brother is an immigration attorney and is totally dumbfounded and astounded by what people are spouting as the truth on this board. If my mother married a Chinese or a Russian citizen and I was born or adopted in that country, I would still have the right at my 21st birthday to say I claim my status as a natural born American citizenship. Prove I am wrong. I dare you. This is all bull you know what.
Thisi is absolutely not true, buy yourself
an English translation of the Koran, this is not what the Koran says, this is how 'sick' men interpret the Koran to their liking.
It absolutely is fair and true...(sm)

I'm not the one doing the "lumping."  You guys are.  The homeland security report came out and pointed out potential violent acts coming from the extremist right wing.....not regular republicans, not conservatives.  But what did most pubs on this board do?  They said it wasn't fair to call the pub party extremists.  Noone actually did call them extremists.  By demanding an apology for this statement by what are supposed to be mainstream pubs, they took the side of the extremists.  Why would they do that?  Because that is what is left of the republican base right now.  Fox sold that message, and you guys ate it up, not even realizing the implications of furthering that message.


If they come out and say a bunch of radical extremists libs are burning down coal mines, I'm not going to ask for an apology for that.  Why would I?  I say they need to catch the a$$holes before somone gets hurt.  I wouldn't give them credibility by protecting them.....but that's what pubs did in this case.


Well, gt you show your true colors again
you are codoning, crime, terror and mayhem.  This should show everyone how unhinged you are..  Thanks for proving my point.
Not true, check your facts and, in fact,
all I want to do is put them all in a bus and drive them back to where they came from.
The source does not matter if the facts are true...
and the facts are true. Google the names of the economists...google any of the facts. And the source was considered...Obama's own words.
I suppose that may be true, but you give no facts, just your opinion...nm

Just goes to show the j@ckas@es/crooks running the show!
nm
Beck says - almost every show - that he is NOT doing a news show.
He does an opinion show - meaning HIS opinion. As such, he's entitled to stick pins in little Obama dolls for all I care.

I can hear Chris Wallace laughing at you folks from here because it's pretty obvious whoever wrote that knows zip about Beck, or Wallace for that matter. In fact, I can't think what Wallace has to do with Beck anyway. Everyone of INTELLIGENCE who watches Beck and Wallace is perfectly aware that one does one type of show and the other does another.

But what do you expect from one of George Soros' puppet sites like Media Matters and Move Bowels.org?

You really should delete your Favorites list and start over.
Facts are facts - sorry you don't like it cos it doesn't support your candidate
You can't change facts. That's what makes them facts. You may not like it but that's the way it is.


Facts are facts. No bash intended.
It will be this stellar record from which voters will be assessing her and her running mate.
If you're offended, too bad. Facts are facts...
I know Muslims in this country who have turned from the hateful evil beliefs that were forced down their throats. They did not have the freedom to learn anything else growing up. But after they gained their freedom and came here, they were able to receive the Word of God and they have told me that NEVER were they taught anything about loving others, just other Muslims, and that the God they learned about spoke of nothing but killing and hate... so if Obama is receiving large donations from those middle eastern countries, as you say, and he is grounded in Muslim culture, being taught this in school for years as a child, do you honestly think he doesn't carry some of those beliefs with him? He's never denounced it.

Here ya go.........

http://bibleprobe.com/muhammad.htm
stating facts folks, just the facts....if it's getting
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Folks want facts, you give'm facts and still
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This poster wants facts, facts, facts...
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Poster wants facts, facts, facts.....
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Saw the show. It was a guest on the show....
not a commentator. Why don't you post the link to the clip so everyone can decide?
Show me who your friends are and I’ll show you who you are.’
This subject is not old, and is very, very relevant.



Obama's friends/associates (supposedly former friends and associates, only since this campaign):

Ayers

Wright

Dorhn

Michelle

Khalidi


The company he keeps:
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YThjYTU1ZDBjNmQ2YzcwNzU1MmYwN2JiMWY0ZGI0NDA=



I find it very, very troubling, that this man has no visible friends, other than the ones above (not Michelle, although she has been kept under lock and key out of public sight for some time now, so as to keep her from embarrassing herself again).



Does this man not have any other friends/associates, other than the ones above?
When you can't fight facts for facts
then it's buh-bye....well buh-bye to you too....I'll have a dicussion with someone who will discuss and not blame.
When you can't fight facts for facts then it's buh-bye.

Facts, stick to the facts...sm
The subject here is the media and their treatment of Gov. Palin, which continues to this day, to this minute, by the liberal left.

Tthe media threw down their gauntlet as soon as she was picked on that Friday, and hounded her for almost a full week.

And you think she should have waved a white flag at them in her acceptance speech? She put them on notice, that she is above them. And continues to be, with grace and style.

She's not whining, and neither are we.

I just shake my head at your audacity.

The media is the one that started this with her, and you would do well to remember the facts in her case.




IN this case, the facts are the facts.........
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That's true - and Barack Obama is a true Patriot too.
Again we can agree to disagree. How John McCain has voted goes against everything I want as a President, but there are an equal number of people to me who feel opposite. That's the way it goes.

Your last comment brought to mind how true that is. Being a true patriot is not harmful in a candidate. John McCain is a patriot. So is Barack Obama.
Absolutely.....
They will keep us over there until they get all the booty they went there for.  Not FREEDOM.  Was never about FREEDOM!  Give me a break!  Where is OUR FREEDOM to get the h*** out of there!  Our freedoms are being pushed to the brink.  Have a buddy who was over there.  The people "reconstructing" Iraq are making THOUSANDS of dollars a week! Being paid by our gov't.  Do you think they want to come home to a few hundred a week?  Think NOT.  Nice, huh?  What a full scale MESS!
You are absolutely right
I agree with you, no more answering the nutcases from the republican board, LOL.  Not worth it..cant change a preprogrammed brainwashed stone into a feeling, caring human being.
You are absolutely right.
There IS no debate here. Just the irrational illogical mindless the sky is falling mentality of the far left.  I am new to these boards, but I have seen enough. 
ABSOLUTELY!!! sm
And this goes back further to when Clinton was still in office. He was fair game then too, on MTstars.

I'd never heard of Clinton being a rapist/serial sexual harasser (sp), until I read it on the conservative board earlier this year.
Yes, you are absolutely right
I got conned into jousting with this creature!!   Best to ignore!!!  Obviously they are not posting and playing with a full deck.  Pity is probably more appropriate!!!
Absolutely not...
Justify and argue history and the politics of war all you want. This is just your way of clouding an issue that is here and now.

I do not believe there was sufficient evidence for us to invade the country. It has been proven that the directive was to FIND a link between Hussain and Bin Laden after 911 to justify invading the country to look for AL Qaeda and no link was ever found. If they were hiding there and it was discovered AFTER the fact, well a bonus for Bush because the intelligence said otherwise.

The first line of failure was that they did not plan any policies for Iraq past the initial 60 to 90 day overthrow of Hussain. The second failure was that when it started to descend into chaos, he appointed the wrong people to take charge of it. He appointed Bremer, a man with no foreign policy experience, no middle east experience, no military experience, spoke no Arabic, and single handedly destroyed the country. The death of Sergio Viera DE Mello and the bombing of the UN building was a direct result of Bremer.

I don't care that he is not the first one to do it, and he won't be the last, and I certainly do not care that he is a Republican. I would be just as disgusted and angry if it had been a Democratic president. I hold him accountable for THIS one. He gave the order, he ignored the intelligence given to him, and then he walked away from it like soiled laundry.

Now when things are quite possibly at its worse and more money is needed to fund this nightmare, if Congress turns it down, he is going to lay blame for his failure at Congress's feet.

I do not think we should be held accountable for a mistake made by an egomaniac who continued on a disastrous course when the people who knew it best and were the closest to it were telling him the opposite.
Absolutely not
He is certainly not responsible for the statements of his minister and it doesn't change my opinion of him in anyway.

That said, he is not my first choice, but if it is between him and McCain, I will vote for Obama.
You are absolutely right - sm
There have been women of power raising children and have done a fabulous job at both.

However, this seems to be a rather unique situation simply because we are talking about the position of Vice President. It has to be a grueling job, whether you are constantly in the public arena or not.

Then there is the 16-year-old daughter. My sympathies are completely with that poor girl.

The teen years are traumatic enough without this garbage.

I think the responsible thing to do as a parent would be to concentrate on my kids and put them first. The very first seed of rumor should have been quashed immediately for the emotional safety of the daughter and step aside from the running.

Shame on Sarah Palin for even accidentally exposing her daughter to such a public scrutiny.

The kids come first. Rumor or not, she needs to step back and do damage control within her family and make sure her daughter doesn't suffer from this anymore than she already has.

Absolutely! And what's more is
he has intelligence.  Imagine that!  A president who is smart and thoughtful and will keep the Constitution!  What a concept!
Absolutely
Arnold has embarrassed us with his green crap, which is yet another way to tax us (those idiots actually don't know this).  He was always RINO Extraordinaire, anyway.  Actually, he never was even an R.  He faked it like Bloomberg.

Absolutely.
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if he is absolutely

certain he knows how to catch BinLaden and he puts country first it behooves him to tell anyone who will listen!!!!!


 


Absolutely none! It's not my job to
tell you what to think or think through YOUR decisions!!!  THINK FOR YOURSELF!!! That's what makes AMERICA a FREE country, so far anyway.  Do you actually believe that any statesmen of the congress would endorse Obama if he is in actuality as the rightwingers portray him? Get serious!  No self-respecting congressman would go out on a limb for that type of person.  Seriously.  It's not up to me to make your decisions for you, just use your God-given common sense.
I think you are absolutely right

I think it will be all over after the first debate. Obama's poll numbers creeping up, but after debate, will skyrocket.


 


 


I think they are both absolutely
ridiculous notions and have better things to do with my time than come up with constant arguments to prove my opinion is the right one.
Absolutely not
Didn't you read my post about my Senator and Representative?  They both voted for it and they are just as pork hungry as the rest of Congress!  I'm not laying it at the feet of the Republicans, the oposing Democrats as well as the Republicans could have held their ground.
You are absolutely right! (sm)

I should not have posted anything about myself, beliefs or opinions.  I should have checked all messages from you first to make sure that I would agree with you so as not to expose your narrow-minded views to anything other than just that.


I shall now be known as *Just the big bad* 


Absolutely
I've all but stopped looking at this board. It's so shrill at this point, such liberties taken with racial & religious prejudice in the name of nationalism, it makes me sick. Every time I poke my head up & see what the last few posts have been, there are more & more exclamation points. The anti-Obama faction is whipping itself into such a frenzy, producing blogs as evidence of whatever the current paranoia is, that this board has long since stopped being anything like intelligent discourse.
Absolutely.

Absolutely.  I just have such a strong belief in respect for one another.  We need to think about what our chidren/grandchildren are witnessing us and others do and say each day.  I don't care if the president is white, black, Indian, Asian, or otherwise...if he can just do his best for the country and, I know this is a long shot but, this not turn into a black/white issue.  He's just a person.  What does his skin color have to do with anything?  We are all just people. 


absolutely...
I merely stated that it does affect her paycheck. I disagree with gay marriage for other reasons, as well, but it is not just a ceremony, as she seemed to imply. Nobody proposed a law against ceremonies. They can feel free to do whatever they want as far as wearing dresses and such. The law is against the marriage in the eyes of the law.
Absolutely not s/m
However, in the end we'll have a version of theocracy that we sure won't like.  Hide in the bushes and watch.
Absolutely s/m
I believe eventually Iraq/Iran/Afghanastan will attack Israel.  I hope we come down on the side of Israel but I fear we won't.
I believe you are absolutely right.....sm
and in 4 years some of the same ones who are bestowing his virtues will be the loudest of the whiners. Obama is only a man and there was only one perfect man. We crucified him 2000 years ago.
I absolutely think so, too...
of course. I did paste it and only got a red screen, but it might just be my slow satellite internet. I do believe, however, that the government tries to do well by the soldiers and sailors. I know that my dad, who is a civil servant at a different Navy base, spends most of his time working on IED defense. We must keep in mind that this is a difficult war to fight because we have spent so much time and effort on technology that we have a hard time fighting people who use rudimentary weopons--i.e., the IED. I truly believe that NOBODY intends to hurt our troops, KBR included.
You are absolutely right....(sm)
I guess that wasn't the politically correct term....how about mentally stumped?
You are absolutely right....(sm)

I keep thinking of Kennedy.  I'm keeping my fingers crossed.  I just hope he doesn't try to do the convertable thing.  I think he mentioned doing it at one point.


I really don't think Bush will try the directive 51 thing or anything like that, although I wouldn't put it past him.


Absolutely!!! nm