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Absolutely right, Clinton was not thrown out

Posted By: sorry on 2006-01-03
In Reply to: Clinton was thrown out of the white house - ???

but you whining Reps cried because he lied about a BJ....ohhh my, how freakish, how awful, it might endanger what?  But now we have a moron who is lying about even the simplest details, waging war, not at all a statesman, blowing OUR freedoms willy-nilly, the WORST president ever, anywhere on this globe.  A complete idiot! and you fall for his crap hook, line and sinker.  Shame on you!  To give your rights, your liberties, your freedoms, your loyalties to the likes of him, or anyone for that matter, a moron with moronic ideas! and no sense of history.  If he had a sense of history, he would have NEVER invaded Iraq.  Who is the coward?  The one who says talk first, or the one who says take my freedoms, anything to be safe?  Our forefathers looked down a barrel of a gun for YOUR freedom, Bush did not even do his SAFE Reserve time!  He makes me physically ILL. 


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Clinton was thrown out of the white house
think you better check your so-called facts.
Yeah, and Bill Clinton should have been thrown out
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The embryos that are thrown away, just
exactly what are they going to grow into being? I am not rooting for abortion here, just asking about these in vitro fertilization embryos that are tossed aside, I want to know, what are they going to grow into? And as far as me not reading enough, I have read plenty enough, enough to know they don't know if this research will come up with a cure or not, I guess that is why they call it research.
Volunteers being thrown out
When I first read your post, I thought the votes were being thrown out!
You only would have been thrown in jail
to pay what you owed. Haven't any of you known or heard of someone that made an error on their taxes? Are the all incarcerated? Geez.
You could've fooled me. Must have been thrown
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Doing spell checking on others can get you thrown off
I don't use spell check here and I definitely do not correct other's errors, see them all the time but know better than to do for the above reason. When you pay my check, then take note of any errors, ok?
Thrown Away Flags Story False


Days before the anniversary of September 11, on the same morning that John McCain and Barack Obama released a joint statement pledging to avoid politics in light of the anniversary of the terrorist attacks, McCain's campaign accused Democrats of throwing away 12,000 American flags.


"The campaign says the flags were recovered from Invesco Field after the Democrats concluded their convention there," Fox News reported, "and they are going to be used as part of the warm-up ceremonies before McCain takes the stage" for a rally in Colorado Springs, Col.


But according to a senior official involved in organizing the Democratic convention, the McCain camp is simply lying about the flags.


"All of the flags at Invesco were picked up and put in bags and into storage, along with the unused flags and campaign signs. The flags were going to be donated, and the signs were going to be sent out to be used elsewhere," the official said, speaking anonymously since he was not authorized to talk to the press.


Fox News' Carl Cameron and Bonney Kapp reported that they had "been told" that "a vendor at Invesco Field found the flags, which were going to be thrown out, and turned them over to the McCain campaign."


The Democratic convention official says that's not true.


"It's pretty reprehensible on their part," he said. "Someone made an assumption, took the flags, and essentially lied about what was going to happen to them. I mean, c'mon, we were never ever going to throw out flags."


Emails to three McCain spokespersons inquiring where the flags were found and how the McCain campaign obtained them were not returned.


UPDATE: DNC spokeswoman Karen Finney issues a statement: "American flags were proudly waved by the 75,000 people who joined Barack Obama at the Democratic Convention. John McCain should applaud that, but instead his supporters wrongfully took leftover bundles of our flags from the stadium to play a cheap political stunt calling into question our patriotism. On the same day he agrees to join Barack Obama at Ground Zero on September 11, John McCain attacks the patriotism of Obama supporters who so proudly waved the American flag at our historic event in Denver just days ago."






So you think it is more helpful to watch shoe being thrown
at our current leader than to hear about the new administration's cabinet members?
Mercy me honey, the facts were thrown
out to ya left and right all over the place before the election and those like yourself just turned a blind eye; why bother now? Closed minded people just choose to stay that way......they can't get past O loving selves.
Those are just bones thrown in hoping to pacify

some us who smell something foul.  Charges "can" be filed against him again.  And for now he is "still in custody."  Pretty soon, Gitmo will be closed and they won't have sufficient evidence to refile charges and they will say they have no choice but to release him...


That's my prediction.


Berg Lawsuit Thrown Out - Case Closed
Judge rejects Montco lawyer's bid to have Obama removed from ballot

By MICHAEL HINKELMAN
Philadelphia Daily News

hinkelm@phillynews.com 215-854-2656
A federal judge in Philadelphia last night threw out a complaint by a Montgomery County lawyer who claimed that Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was not qualified to be president and that his name should be removed from the Nov. 4 ballot.

Philip J. Berg alleged in a complaint filed in federal district court on Aug. 21 against Obama, the Democratic National Committee and the Federal Election Commission, that Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya.

Berg claimed that the Democratic presidential standardbearer is not even an American citizen but a citizen of Indonesia and therefore ineligible to be president.

He alleged that if Obama was permitted to run for president and subsequently found to be ineligible, he and other voters would be disenfranchised.

U.S. District Judge R. Barclay Surrick had denied Berg's request for a temporary restraining order on Aug. 22 but had not ruled on the merits of the suit until yesterday.

Obama and the Democratic National Committee had asked Surrick to dismiss Berg's complaint in a court filing on Sept. 24.

They said that Berg's claims were "ridiculous" and "patently false," that Berg had "no standing" to challenge the qualifications of a candidate for president because he had not shown the requisite harm to himself.

Surrick agreed.

In a 34-page memorandum and opinion, the judge said Berg's allegations of harm were "too vague and too attenuated" to confer standing on him or any other voters.

Surrick ruled that Berg's attempts to use certain laws to gain standing to pursue his claim that Obama was not a natural-born citizen were "frivolous and not worthy of discussion."

The judge also said the harm Berg alleged did "not constitute an injury in fact" and Berg's arguments to the contrary "ventured into the unreasonable."

For example, Berg had claimed that Obama's nomination deprived citizens of voting for Sen. Hillary Clinton in November. (Berg backed Clinton in the primaries.)

Berg could not be reached for comment last night.

Obama was born in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961, and the campaign posted a document issued by Hawaii on its Web site, fight thesmears.com, confirming his birth there.

Berg said in court papers that the image was a forgery.

The nonpartisan Web site FactCheck.org examined the original document and said it was legitimate.

Further, a birth announcement in the Aug. 13, 1961, Honolulu Advertiser listed Obama's birth there on Aug. 4.

Tests can be thrown, college admissions bought and sold
Since when can IQ be extrapolated from SAT test scores? I'd appreciate a source citation so I can read up on that, unless you are going on those lame IQ test websites that have assigned W, O and Michelle's IQ all at 125. Fact is, brilliant people have been known to score low on SAT for a variety of reasons so that argument is not terribly convincing.

I'm going strictly on such measures as butchery of his native tongue, i.e., inability to form more than monosyllabic 6-word sentences without a teleprompt or cue cards, how challenged he is to complete a whole thought and his dependence on behind-the-scenes heavyweights to engineer his campaigns and run his presidency, just to name a few.

W was denied admission to St. John's Academy (HS) and UT School of Law. This does not happen for no reason. His distinguishing accomplishment at his Dad's alma mater was joining the secret society of the Skull and Bones brotherhood. I'm a firm believer that strings were pulled on his behalf (as they were on so many other occasions) to get him into the ivy league track, unlike Obama, who did it the old-fashioned way (scholastic achievement) when he transferred to Columbia and was ultimately admitted to Harvard, where he graduated magna cum laude.

Bush does have an impressive record of failing at almost everything he every tried to do before (and after) his political career: In abstentia service in the National Guard, bombed election bid for the Texas House of Representatives in 1978, and an oil company that went bust which he left under a cloud of suspicion of insider trading. He did manage to capitalize on his 5-year dalliance with the Texas Rangers baseball team (could't really call what he did there REAL work) just long enough to get good name recognition for his run for gov and make a profitable sale of his shares in the team.

This less than stellar performance was totally eclipsed by the multitude of screw-ups while in office, way too much to get into in the confines of this forum. Bottom line for me is that his behavior and performance is very uninspiring, less than mediocre and not at all suggestive of much in the way of creativity or intellect....in other words, the polar opposite of the O. Hence the statement, IQ is good for the country. The wisdom angle was somebody else's attempt to side-step the issue of W's stupidity.
Absolutely.....
They will keep us over there until they get all the booty they went there for.  Not FREEDOM.  Was never about FREEDOM!  Give me a break!  Where is OUR FREEDOM to get the h*** out of there!  Our freedoms are being pushed to the brink.  Have a buddy who was over there.  The people "reconstructing" Iraq are making THOUSANDS of dollars a week! Being paid by our gov't.  Do you think they want to come home to a few hundred a week?  Think NOT.  Nice, huh?  What a full scale MESS!
You are absolutely right
I agree with you, no more answering the nutcases from the republican board, LOL.  Not worth it..cant change a preprogrammed brainwashed stone into a feeling, caring human being.
You are absolutely right.
There IS no debate here. Just the irrational illogical mindless the sky is falling mentality of the far left.  I am new to these boards, but I have seen enough. 
ABSOLUTELY!!! sm
And this goes back further to when Clinton was still in office. He was fair game then too, on MTstars.

I'd never heard of Clinton being a rapist/serial sexual harasser (sp), until I read it on the conservative board earlier this year.
Yes, you are absolutely right
I got conned into jousting with this creature!!   Best to ignore!!!  Obviously they are not posting and playing with a full deck.  Pity is probably more appropriate!!!
Absolutely not...
Justify and argue history and the politics of war all you want. This is just your way of clouding an issue that is here and now.

I do not believe there was sufficient evidence for us to invade the country. It has been proven that the directive was to FIND a link between Hussain and Bin Laden after 911 to justify invading the country to look for AL Qaeda and no link was ever found. If they were hiding there and it was discovered AFTER the fact, well a bonus for Bush because the intelligence said otherwise.

The first line of failure was that they did not plan any policies for Iraq past the initial 60 to 90 day overthrow of Hussain. The second failure was that when it started to descend into chaos, he appointed the wrong people to take charge of it. He appointed Bremer, a man with no foreign policy experience, no middle east experience, no military experience, spoke no Arabic, and single handedly destroyed the country. The death of Sergio Viera DE Mello and the bombing of the UN building was a direct result of Bremer.

I don't care that he is not the first one to do it, and he won't be the last, and I certainly do not care that he is a Republican. I would be just as disgusted and angry if it had been a Democratic president. I hold him accountable for THIS one. He gave the order, he ignored the intelligence given to him, and then he walked away from it like soiled laundry.

Now when things are quite possibly at its worse and more money is needed to fund this nightmare, if Congress turns it down, he is going to lay blame for his failure at Congress's feet.

I do not think we should be held accountable for a mistake made by an egomaniac who continued on a disastrous course when the people who knew it best and were the closest to it were telling him the opposite.
Absolutely not
He is certainly not responsible for the statements of his minister and it doesn't change my opinion of him in anyway.

That said, he is not my first choice, but if it is between him and McCain, I will vote for Obama.
You are absolutely right - sm
There have been women of power raising children and have done a fabulous job at both.

However, this seems to be a rather unique situation simply because we are talking about the position of Vice President. It has to be a grueling job, whether you are constantly in the public arena or not.

Then there is the 16-year-old daughter. My sympathies are completely with that poor girl.

The teen years are traumatic enough without this garbage.

I think the responsible thing to do as a parent would be to concentrate on my kids and put them first. The very first seed of rumor should have been quashed immediately for the emotional safety of the daughter and step aside from the running.

Shame on Sarah Palin for even accidentally exposing her daughter to such a public scrutiny.

The kids come first. Rumor or not, she needs to step back and do damage control within her family and make sure her daughter doesn't suffer from this anymore than she already has.

Absolutely! And what's more is
he has intelligence.  Imagine that!  A president who is smart and thoughtful and will keep the Constitution!  What a concept!
Absolutely
Arnold has embarrassed us with his green crap, which is yet another way to tax us (those idiots actually don't know this).  He was always RINO Extraordinaire, anyway.  Actually, he never was even an R.  He faked it like Bloomberg.

Absolutely.
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if he is absolutely

certain he knows how to catch BinLaden and he puts country first it behooves him to tell anyone who will listen!!!!!


 


Absolutely none! It's not my job to
tell you what to think or think through YOUR decisions!!!  THINK FOR YOURSELF!!! That's what makes AMERICA a FREE country, so far anyway.  Do you actually believe that any statesmen of the congress would endorse Obama if he is in actuality as the rightwingers portray him? Get serious!  No self-respecting congressman would go out on a limb for that type of person.  Seriously.  It's not up to me to make your decisions for you, just use your God-given common sense.
I think you are absolutely right

I think it will be all over after the first debate. Obama's poll numbers creeping up, but after debate, will skyrocket.


 


 


I think they are both absolutely
ridiculous notions and have better things to do with my time than come up with constant arguments to prove my opinion is the right one.
Absolutely not
Didn't you read my post about my Senator and Representative?  They both voted for it and they are just as pork hungry as the rest of Congress!  I'm not laying it at the feet of the Republicans, the oposing Democrats as well as the Republicans could have held their ground.
You are absolutely right! (sm)

I should not have posted anything about myself, beliefs or opinions.  I should have checked all messages from you first to make sure that I would agree with you so as not to expose your narrow-minded views to anything other than just that.


I shall now be known as *Just the big bad* 


Absolutely
I've all but stopped looking at this board. It's so shrill at this point, such liberties taken with racial & religious prejudice in the name of nationalism, it makes me sick. Every time I poke my head up & see what the last few posts have been, there are more & more exclamation points. The anti-Obama faction is whipping itself into such a frenzy, producing blogs as evidence of whatever the current paranoia is, that this board has long since stopped being anything like intelligent discourse.
Absolutely.

Absolutely.  I just have such a strong belief in respect for one another.  We need to think about what our chidren/grandchildren are witnessing us and others do and say each day.  I don't care if the president is white, black, Indian, Asian, or otherwise...if he can just do his best for the country and, I know this is a long shot but, this not turn into a black/white issue.  He's just a person.  What does his skin color have to do with anything?  We are all just people. 


absolutely...
I merely stated that it does affect her paycheck. I disagree with gay marriage for other reasons, as well, but it is not just a ceremony, as she seemed to imply. Nobody proposed a law against ceremonies. They can feel free to do whatever they want as far as wearing dresses and such. The law is against the marriage in the eyes of the law.
Absolutely not s/m
However, in the end we'll have a version of theocracy that we sure won't like.  Hide in the bushes and watch.
Absolutely s/m
I believe eventually Iraq/Iran/Afghanastan will attack Israel.  I hope we come down on the side of Israel but I fear we won't.
I believe you are absolutely right.....sm
and in 4 years some of the same ones who are bestowing his virtues will be the loudest of the whiners. Obama is only a man and there was only one perfect man. We crucified him 2000 years ago.
I absolutely think so, too...
of course. I did paste it and only got a red screen, but it might just be my slow satellite internet. I do believe, however, that the government tries to do well by the soldiers and sailors. I know that my dad, who is a civil servant at a different Navy base, spends most of his time working on IED defense. We must keep in mind that this is a difficult war to fight because we have spent so much time and effort on technology that we have a hard time fighting people who use rudimentary weopons--i.e., the IED. I truly believe that NOBODY intends to hurt our troops, KBR included.
You are absolutely right....(sm)
I guess that wasn't the politically correct term....how about mentally stumped?
You are absolutely right....(sm)

I keep thinking of Kennedy.  I'm keeping my fingers crossed.  I just hope he doesn't try to do the convertable thing.  I think he mentioned doing it at one point.


I really don't think Bush will try the directive 51 thing or anything like that, although I wouldn't put it past him.


Absolutely!!! nm

You are absolutely right...
The justice screwed it up, and it took President Obama by surprise. He gave a look to the justice, and then the justice repeated it correctly.

That it being said, it is no use trying to reason with the Obama haters. They enjoy wallowing in misery and will go out of their way to find a reason to be miserable. Frankly, I revel in their misery!
You are absolutely right....(sm)
We should hold a party in his honor.  You get the ropes.  I'll get the water and the board.
YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!
There is still a poster on here who was ignorant enough to ask who "stirred the pot"? That would be Obama. Another one didn't believe the families were not being allowed on the white house grounds.....news flash....that White House--- it BELONGS TO THE CITIZENS, not the government!


Another ask why didn't they approach Bush? Well, if they weren't so ignorant they would know that Bush didn't drop the charges against terrorists......he ain't kissing their butts! Obama allowed the dropped charges to take place.....

Get over it folks! Bush ain't there anymore......gonna have to spend your time figuring out how to blame others for all of Obama's failures now.
absolutely right..thank you...nm
nm
You are absolutely right!
Why should people be allowed to make a decent living wage and make you pay more for your Big Mac? I say, let's lower the minimum wage and cut the price of your Big Mac in half! By the way, would you like fries with that?
You are absolutely right.......

....we could keep at this for a week and never convince one another, which is fine.  We don't get to vote on this issue.  America has spoken.  We want change.  The dems will have enough votes in congress to ram this through without any input from you or me.  As AL Gore says:  The science is settled. The debate is over. 


But consider this:


1.  You have such a low opinion of our elected officials (what with the lobbying, bribing, the royal retirements and all) yet you want to turn your healthcare over to them exclusively?


2. If you or someone you love are denied by your insurance company, you might be grateful for the opportunity to accept charity or hock everything you own for the chance to get help.  Or you could just roll over and die.  Your choice.


3.  If the government tells you no, you only get to do the dying part. 


4.  If you haven't the energy to fight with WDGD (We Don't Give a Damn) Insurance, what makes you think you can take on the FBHR (Federal Bureau of Healthcare Rationing)?  


5.  Why should you be bankrupted by having to pay higher taxes to provide healthcare for me or my family? 


Just sayin'............


Anyhow, we both need to get a life, so I'm all finished posting about this subject


You are absolutely right.
I could not agree with you more.  Because what is the world now but one big global community?  A collection of neighborhoods.  And I certainly know how to behave properly in MY neighborhood. 

 

If my neighbor likes to slap his wife around a little, what business is it of mine? (Other than her screams occasionally waking me up at night, which is easily remedied with earplugs.)  And if she should pound on my door one night asking for shelter - what kind of fool would I be to let her in?  That might put me in the position of having to defend her - and would probably make her husband real mad.  And when I hear multiple gunshots two streets over (a regular occurrence - there's Section 8 housing over there and they get kinda frisky) why should I care?  Unless bullets are actually punching through my walls, is it really my business?  And when I see someone breaking into my neighbor's car (not the wife beater - the other neighbor) is it really my place to intervene?  If I see a shoplifter in a store shall I carefully avert my eyes - because what concern is it of mine?

 

Sure, I know, the appropriate thing to do is call the police in all these instances.  But what if the cops are to the neighborhood as the UN is to the world?  What if, when you call, they cannot be bothered to leave the station?  Or maybe they convene a panel to study the problem in very general terms?  Or what if maybe they just do a drive-by investigation?  Or what if they actually go up to the neighbor's door and asked to speak to his wife and the man says, 'My wife.  My house.  Get lost.'  And what if they then issue a very stern warning and leave?  What if this happens every Friday night for years? 

 

If all this becomes too much to tolerate I can try my luck in another neighborhood, I guess.  Where do the rest of us move to if we allow the entire planet to be taken over by bullies, thieves and thugs?

You are absolutely right

what we have is a mess, but what we will get with government-controlled healthcare will be so much worse.   I have no clue how to solve the inequities in our current system but I know that letting big government take over for big insurance is another step in the wrong direction.  It's another example of 'we must do SOMETHING' without having a clue what that something should be.  We have to do something effective and nobody knows what that is.....yet.


If you think insurance companies are difficult to deal with now, wait until you have to get approval from a government bureaucracy.  The inefficiency and expense of anything the government manages is legend. 


Presently, there is a monetary incentive for pharmaceutical companies to develop new drugs, for medical equipment companies to design new technology, for scientists physicians to perfect new treatments and techniques (other than having something named after them).  When the government has sets profit limits and salary caps to prevent 'obscene profits from the illness of others' nobody will have much reason to break a sweat to do these things (again, other than having something named after them). 


You are absolutely right......

You CAN indeed murder someone and you WILL indeed be arrested.  The difference is you actually CAUSED HARM to someone.  You didn't do something that just went against the opinions of another person.


I have two children myself that are young now and I understand about "protecting" children, but give me a break, this world is so corrupt it's ridiculous!  There is A LOT that I need to protect them from, NOT the fact that two people may love each other and happen to be the same sex.


I am not gay, so therefore I have no right to say yes or no to gay marriage, but I would never put someone down for having different beliefs than I do.


You are absolutely right...
Now that the Pubs are out of power, we have no problem with crooks!
That has absolutely nothing to do with
Are you like this in your day to day life or just here?