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Agree completely......Muslim extremists are not

Posted By: in despair.......sm on 2008-07-30
In Reply to: Obama stance on terrorism.... - sam

Heck, the media is just now putting out the so-called honor killings these muslims believe in. There is no honor to it.....it is cold-blood murder. They do it here (where they can do as they please) and they do it back in their home country, so please, there is no despair. It is a sick ideology they live by. Little boys brainwashed from childhood on to hate. The women are the ones who are in despair.


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Unfortunately, Muslim extremists don't agree with you.
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I agree completely.

Mentally ill, angry, hateful, and getting more out of control by the minute.


I suggest we don't read their/her posts any more and don't attempt to respond to them.  If they don't have an audience for the insane hatred they spew, maybe they will go away.  There's no point, anyway.  As in my post below, if I hold up three fingers and YOU see three fingers and the rest of the WORLD sees three fingers, they will only see ONE finger, turn it into something ugly and hateful and then and accuse me of giving them the bird.  How in the world can someone communicate with people like that?


I say we just start to ignore them before they pollute this board any further than they already have.  It's getting out of control.


They're turning the Liberal board into a sewer like they did the Conservative board.


I agree completely.....and would just add
I pray it can be done with minimal loss of life on the part of our military and the Iraqis who are brave enough to keep lining up to become policemen and military, even though their losses have been staggering. God bless and protect them all, American and Iraqi alike.

Happy New Year to you too!
I agree completely, however,
we know it won't be about substance as much as everyone's personal business. I could not care less what a person's faith is if he/she has the experience necessary, has above-average intelligence, a working knowledge of our own government, its history on the tip of his/her tongue, is quick on his/her feet and appears to be a qualified person, a person who is extremely well versed in the complexities that exist outside our own borders, someone who eats, sleeps, breathes history, politics, public service, someone who is a diplomat, and someone who can inspire us all to do better, to be better. But the tabloid stuff has already started and a lot of it has to do with Mormonism. I don't think a Morman has ever run for president, so this is apt to be a huge issue. Whether or not he can do the job will be secondary, maybe tertiary.
First, I completely agree with you. There SM
should be national healthcare. However, it won't be just the conservatives that will be against it, but middle-class people who have to pay for the increased taxes it would take. You certainly wouldn't expect the wealthy to pay their share for it, do you?

The whole thing is really making me sick. We do need healthcare reform. I'm not sure it will ever happen.


Agree completely. nm
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Well said. I agree completely! nm
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Completely agree
and I'm not even really sure why. I know the two candidates certainly have completely different views of how to change things, but isn't that the way it's always been, way back to Thomas Jefferson and John Adams? Now there was another really nasty election!
I completely agree with you. nm
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Completely agree
Don't always agree with them all, but still love the way they speak their minds.

another rightie
I agree completely......
I had relatives in both places when Katrina hit. My relatives around New Orleans were sickened at all the whining, looting, blaming the government for the situation while they have days to leave and prepare but did neither.

My relatives on the coast, where they were hit the hardest, not New Oreleans, got up and began clearing the roadways for when help did arrive, moving trees out of the way, and trying to help one another, not standing in the streets trying to kill one another and blaming Bush for all their woes.

So many in N.O. had spent generation after generation doing nothing but living off the government, free everything, to when they actually had to use their own mind and do something for themselves or their neighbor, what did they do? Blame the government!!

It was terrible what happened to those that were helpless, but these people were not helpless. THEY WERE LAZY WELFARE BEGGING MOOCHERS!

And I can guarantee they continue to be just that. Their attitude was very clear when thousands upon thousands came to our community where we housed them and took care of them. The local churches took thousands in and what did many do? STEAL! They were given air conditioning and comfortable beds, when WE got A/C ourselves. They got 3 square meals a day, hot meals cooked by volunteers; their babies got all the formula and diapers and even medical care that was needed. They were given clean clothes as well as emotional care by our local pastors and counselors.

If they needed something they didn't have, all they had to do was asked. We staffed many volunteers around the clock but that wasn't enough. They were so sorry, they broke the lock to the supply room and took all they wanted and most of what they didn't need and still had the gall to lay their lazy bums up on the beds with the goods they stole. When pastors and others came around to ask those we could obviously see why they had stolen these things, they actually got an attitude with us, telling us it was our place to help them, and starting spewing hate about why it was the white man's fault they were in that situation in the first place, that they wouldn't be there if the white man had put them up a descent levy!

And for any who might want to agree with them, just remember their wonderful mayor Ray Negan or whatever his name is, had OVER 60 million dollars given to him years earlier to secure the levy and not a dime was spent on it. And no one can answer or has demanded an answer as to where that money went.

I for one am sick of the handouts! Get off your butt and get a job.
Completely agree.
If they were going to pay off mortgages for everyone else, then they better be buying me a home too and then I could use all the money I have been working hard to save for a down payment on furnishing my new home instead while stimulating the economy. Why should they only reward those who act irresponsibly?
agree on that completely! nm
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Oh, I agree completely.
My faith is definitely a crutch; I lean on it every day. In fact, that's precisely what faith is supposed to be - a source of support and strength.

Of course, my education is a crutch, also. And so is my family. So are my friends, and my advisors. I lean on all of them to get through life.

So what? You see, when you call faith a crutch you haven't managed to mount anything like a criticism of it. When you pretend that you yourself don't have, and use, dozens of crutches to get through life, you're only being arrogant, or unbelievably ignorant.
Agree completely..... it is the act!
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Completely agree with you and since when
did children become open targets in politics, it doesn't matter if the parents are republicans or democrats.  In my opinion, that is just morally wrong.  Children should be left out completely and I don't care if they are 2 or 25.  It is one thing to attack someone's character who is running for office but leave their children out of it. 
I completely agree with you ...
During the election I was very impressed by her and wanted to know everything I could about her.  I read some of her writings from when she was in college and was shocked at the bitterness and disdain that came through.  *Chip on the shoulder* was the exact impression that I got and was extremely disappointed by this. 
Thanks for being honest, I completely agree
It was totally political and this issue is a HUGE example of what happens in politics. Republicans wanted children to suffer and Democrats wanted to give goverment assistance to rich people. I was so shocked when I actually looked at the proposal and thought: what are these people talking about? I'm glad we were able to work together and cut through the bull! :) That's what it should be about.
Yes Obama is.........I agree completely.....
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I agree completely. He should be proud of his...
accomplishments. However, that being said...I most assuredly do NOT think he is the right man for the Presidency.
I agree completely. Unbelievable.

This person either didn't even watch the clip and is completely unaware of Phelps and his "activities" or simply silently condones the heinous things he does.  I particularly despise Phelps' uninvited attendance at the funerals of American soldiers and his "Thank God for Dead Soldiers" motto.


I would be this person posted himself/herself blue to blast Rev. Wright, but this Phelps moron is okay.


Unfortunately, it says a lot about some people who post on this board. 


I agree completely with Ron Paul
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I agree! Obama was never a practicing Muslim
and I think also not 'an every-day-to-church-running Christian'.
Moderation is the key.
haha--I agree with Luker completely--
This War against Christmas stuff is asinine! What a perfect way to take people's minds the real issues affecting our country (like Bush and Cheney trying to expand the powers of the presidency). People have always said happy holidays as long as I can remember and I'm almost 50 myself. BIG DEAL!!
Agree 1000% with you, absolutely, and completely!
Lying was enough to get Nixon and Clinton out of the WH.  What is with this guy, that he can lie, lie, never tell a blasted truth, been shown to be a liar, and is still sitting as prez.  Just makes me sick what WE have become and sick in the stomach to be an American.  Our forefathers are rolling in their graves, to have the Constitution so ignored and belittled by this admin.  And I didn't mean we need to start a war with Iran, as that would also be a tragedy, but we sure as hell didn't need to go to war with Iraq. Bush never gave a thought to diplomacy, of course I don't think he ever had a thought, period.... All of his doing comes from behind the scenes, and if he is ever impeached, they better take Cheney out with him, the cause of this atrocity. 
Oh, I agree completely.....just mentioning Barney
None of them should be "fixing" anything....they created the mess and I sure as heck don't trust them to fix it. Since when has the government fixed anything?

There should be outside auditors come in, chosen by private citizens, NOT the government, not the politicians' friends or family members, but private CPAs to oversee this.

The government should not be taking any of our money. I say let the chips fall where they may and all this fear Bush and everyone else tries to place in the minds of the people is just that....talk. Give it a year or so and it will right itself automatically and purge itself of the crooks.

If you think for a minute the world economy will fall because of it, that's the fear they're hoping to put in your head to make you think this is the only choice left OR ELSE!!

Other countries have firm good banks and will continue their business as usual, as will solid banks in this country.

My gosh, just today the Bank of Scotland is now putting out ads for your banking needs. It's an investment opportunity for many.


He is Muslim, born Muslim, raised Muslim
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He was born to a Muslim father and raised Muslim
for a time. You don't get to choose to drop out of that religion. Doesn't matter if you were born into it and didn't choose it to begin with. Leaving earns you a death sentence, especially such a public conversion to another religion.  Why does he get to be a Christian now and nobody in radical Islam is calling for his head on pike?  Unless.......
Going to a Muslim school doesn't make him Muslim
And point of fact is that it was 2 years in Catholic school, 2 years in a "Muslim" school. He was living in Indonesia. He had to attend school in Indonesia. His mother, doing what mothers do, wanted him to get the best education available. She tried 2 years at the Catholic school and then determined at that point that the quality of education provided was better at the Muslim school. There was some teaching of Muslim philosophy but this more emphasis was paid to standard educational requirements, what's referred to as the 3 Rs (Reading, wRiting, 'Rithmetic).

Attending a school with some affiliation does not automatically confer the same status on you. Jews can go to Catholics without converting. Whites can go to those schools thought of as primary African-American without becoming black. Sometimes, folks, a school is just a school, and 2 years in an extremely secular school at the ages of 8-10 does not turn him into a radical Muslim.

Frankly, his education and family life seems like it makes him almost the perfect president to be able to understand and empathize with a much wider range of American citizens than any president before him.
Why is it racist to call a Muslim a Muslim?
A Christian doesn't mind being called a Christian.

Your phony indignation just proves how oversensitive people are to perceived slights these days.
They've got some extremists to get rid of
You don't really know anything about Great Britain, obviously. They've got hate-mongers standing in Hyde Park every Sunday afternoon, gathering crowds and spouting all kinds of extremist garbage.

'Splain that to me, Lucy.
talking about extremists?
got a mirror? I'd say you are so far at the extreme end you are about to fall off.
Oh we're just ALL racists and extremists

no matter how many times people explain to you that we are not Bush cronies and explain how we are not racists you continue pointing your finger towards us and crying *Racists!!!  Look over there racists!!!*  People aren't buying it nor appreciating it and it's really a reflection of the liberal agenda's intelligence level as a whole.


Your play in your outdated playbood of *just keep screaming something is true even when there's no substance to it OR it's been proven to be wrong* is so outdated and so blantantly transparent that if liberalism was a football team they would be losing 99-0 because EVERYONE knows EVERY play in their playbook.


No extremists like you have labeled him a jerk and racist

He hasn't proven anything.  To liberals accusation is a verdict.  Mr. Bennett has written a book of virtues.  Why don't you hold your accusation/label until you've read that book..not that I expect you will.  Anyone who knows Bennett and his work know he's not a racist.  He was taken out of context and that was that.  He stated a hypothetical situation and in the next breath said it would be morally reprehensible.


You  may think us conservatives are so illiterate that we would just believe the baloney taken from context, but you are wrong.


Wrong. Rightwing Extremists, not conservatives.
Like hate groups and neo-nazis. If you are a member of one of those type of groups, then yes, this report is about you.
Because leftist extremists are not emotionally or mentally adults
They cannot hold their own in debate, so they throw fits and insults. They throw they pre-programmed leftist talking points that have nothing of substance behind them.  They cannot have an adult conversation simply because they are not adults psychologically.
We welcome extremists...as long as you're extremely moderate! : )
Oh, gosh. I cracked myself up.
Wow, my post was totally and completely respectful and yours is totally and completely not. sm
what a surprise.  Can't stand to be corrected or proven wrong, can you.  Have to call everyone a liar, don't you.  Got to tell people to stick things somewhere, don't you.   TSK TSK TSK  Anger management might be helpful.
He has a Muslim name and comes from
stretch, really, and the fact that Dems want to completely disown that are just as asinine as the Repubs that keep harping on it. He has Muslim in his background and went to a Muslim school, this is fact. He might not be a practicing Muslim NOW, but he was taught Muslim beliefs at an impressionable age. Hard to say if any of it stuck, and of course he'd never say if it did. Muslims planned attacks against us for YEARS, right under our nose in our own country. It's beyond me how anyone can ignore the idea that they also might be capable of taking a young man, shaping him and his background to one day become POTUS, thereby accomplishing precisely what they continually threaten: To destroy us from within. They probably laugh at how quickly Americans embraced someone with Muslim name and former Muslim ties, and even if Obama's not their man, now they know how easy it would be.
I don't believe that every Muslim

is a terrorist.  I believe that there are good people and bad people....just like every other race, religion, etc.  However, when it comes to Jihadists who can come over to our country and blend in with good muslims who reside in our country and are willing to kill themself as long as they take out as many "infidels" as they can.....that is what gives us all fear.  You can't look at Muslims and pick out the ones who would willingly befriend you and the one who would much rather blow you up.  It has made many of us scared of ALL muslims and not just the ones responsible for these horrible acts.


Not a Muslim
He's not a Muslim. Think about it - how many muslims do you know are pro gay rights and pro choice?
he is a muslim
He said so himself on TV.
he is a muslim
His full name is Barrack Hussain Obama.
If he is a Muslim then why has he ...sm
practiced Christianity for 20 years, I believe it is? Muslims do not practice Christianity. His father was a Muslim from Africa. He was raised by his grandmother and mother and was a Christian.
Okay, he is not muslim, but


I'm not Muslim, but...

...the very first time I heard Obama speak at the Democratic convention, I remember thinking that he will be President someday.


Maybe it's more of an "Obama" thing than a "Muslim" thing.


Actually you are so completely right..

...I am every single person that has ever posted on the liberal board.  You have obviously found me out.  I have so many different monikers it is very very difficult to keep them straight.


As far as my being mad or angry as you suppose, no not in the least.  Most of my energy is spent trying to change syntax and moniker as often as possible on the MT Stars liberal board.


you are completely right
Of course it is an important day! As it should always be, and you are completely right about it should not be any different had a white man been put in office. Every time it is called a "historic" day that makes it about RACE, exactly what he said it wasn't about.

Seriously, how can you people argue that?

and get over the Bush thing. bush did a lot of stupid things and he spent way too much

so what makes obama different from bush in the spending category on his FIRST DAY??
you are completely right
Of course it is an important day! As it should always be, and you are completely right about it should not be any different had a white man been put in office. Every time it is called a "historic" day that makes it about RACE, exactly what he said it wasn't about.

Seriously, how can you people argue that?

and get over the Bush thing. bush did a lot of stupid things and he spent way too much

But Obama is filling his footsteps real quickly isn't he... and more
You completely said it all.
We are infidels, anyone who does not worship their God! In order for their Messiah to come, they have to KILL AS MANY INFIDELS as they can. In order to do this, they have to kill the Big God and the Little God. United States is the Big God and Israel is the Little God. There is no reasoning with people from Iran or other Muslim countries who worship their Allah. They want their Messiah to come desperately and the only way and I mean the ONLY WAY TO HAVE THEIR MESSIAH COME IS TO KILL US. It is their Bible.

I strongly believe we will have war right here in our country, soon.
I have nothing against the Muslim religion anyway

I would bet that there are millions of Muslims throughout the world who are exceptionally good, hardworking people.  It seems to me that each religion has people who will try to twist it around as an excuse to do just about anything.  Look at those Baptists down south who protest gays at dead soldiers funerals because they say God is killing all these soldiers because American is getting too accepting of gay people.  These Baptists are obviously horrible people, but does that mean all Baptists distort their religion to spew hate and prey on grieving families?  Of course not.


I could care less what religion Obama is or was at one time.  I think he is an excellent candidate.  He is one of the few people who could turn this country (and maybe even this world) around.  We need someone strong enough and smart enough to lead this country and help to unite us again, and I think he's the man for the job.  I also agree with what someone else said in regard to his knowledge of the Muslim religion/culture being a good thing, especially considering our current dire situation.