All I'm stating is that this election may determine
Posted By: U.S. viability in the future. on 2008-09-09
In Reply to: and would you be 1 of those people that claim the - other side uses "scare tactics?" -hypocritic
At no time did I say other countries are directly involved in our system of picking a President. (That system already sucks enough as it is. Look at the Florida fiasco a couple elections ago).
What I'm saying is, if we don't get some leaders in office that have less ego, and more people skills, who can speak AS WELL AS LISTEN, then we're doomed to continue to have the same problems, and very likely worse.
If our next leader is more into bombing than talking, then we better dust off our nuclear arsenal, 'cause we could end up having to use it. Personally, though, I'd rather see the next Prez. talking and using diplomacy, rather than bombing the s**t out of the rest of the world. What goes around does have a tendency to come around.
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News just stated they are now trying to determine
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Like that group of scholars could determine anything....
how do we know WHO the cartoon meant? Get over it already. Unless the chimp is wearing a Hello, My Name is Obama sticker, we don't know who it represents. See the above thread about Holder regarding jumping to conclusions.
And you determine whose credible....Good day, mate.
Go read the "you're probably a liberal if..." on the conservative board. Maybe that'll be adult enough for ya.
Thank you for stating this.
there is a good chance Clinton is out or (which of course will happen) government will change the constitution.
Thanks for stating this. (NM)
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Stating that sin
is sin is not passing judgement. If I was judging, I would be telling people they were going to burn in hale. Anyone can repent of their sins but pointing out a sin is not a judgement. It's reiterating what God tells us.
Thank you for stating this.
This is why I am ticked off with Obama and government. He is just taking over EVERYTHING!
I was stating my opinion. sm
I was simply stating that my father has 3 purple hearts and I was a military dependent, living 6 years of my childhood in cold war Germany. I am tired of the right referring to anyone who does not support the Iraq civil war as "unpatriotic". I am a soldier's daughter, and I want our troops home, because I do support the troops.
Yes 911 was a terrible terrorist thing. What does that have to do with Iraq? Nothing. Never has, never will.
No problem....just stating
proven facts. Hoover raised taxes during a recession and it lead to the great depression. FDR spend money on goverment programs and it actually prolonged the duration of the depression. History, my friends.....history.
Just stating facts
and the fact is that McPalin's campaign money was spent on those hateful calls. Dirty, dirty politics. I am just the messenger so don't take it out on me.
Just stating facts
Obama has been caught in lies and distorting the truth. One man cannot change this country. One man did not get this country into this mess. You can't blame the President for every dang thing happening.
Do you know what Obama called Pennsylvanians? "Those white people," "bitter," "cling to their guns and religion," "they'll call me a black man."
Sound like a great, caring candidate to you?
No, was just stating that we are still paying them...
its not like they are not getting an income while they are campaigning.
The point was that he could share his own wealth if he wanted to without being forced to by the government...lead by example, before he forces the rest of us to join in whether we want to or not.
True, but GM is stating it will take
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As my post above, stating
We did not rush in. Gave Iraq plenty of time so they could move their weapons.
Stating the obvious
resemble a personal attack. You have clearly defined yourself here. All I did was to tell it like it is.
I never heard her stating that about herself.
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If you are stating that he is lying, then
Yes, I did read the whole post. You wrote I'm more concerned about **the lying**, not **I would be concerned if I found out he was lying** or something along those lines. **The lying** -- again, WHAT lying?
I was merely stating there are TWO sides....
to every story. I have not taken sides, as apparently you have. That is all I am saying. The Palestinians are not without fault either, and their present governing body are on the terror watch list. That should mean something....?
If you had stopped at stating it was from Newsmax...
and not followed that with conservative propaganda in the body of your post...obviously said in an effort to discredit whatever was in the article. I can read between the lines, as can other posters, right and left, I feel sure.
Good for you for stating your views on the war then...
I find it ultra annoying when people start calling others unpatriotic when they don't agree with the war or something else the government is doing. Isn't being passionate about what you feel is best for the country the epitome of patriotism!? I think so.
I agree. Sam is stating the facts as well (sm)
as opinions. Take them or leave them. Stop bashing others for your benefit. Sam is above that and doesn't play the bashing game. Just a strong poster with opinions that don't agree with yours. You guys are like a pack of wolves. You are really full of yourselves, aren't you? Shame on you.
This is a forum for posting opinions, observations, and finds. Leave it at that and stop the catfighting.
I haven't condemned anyone...just stating
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nope, just stating facts
and not providing backup - seems to be a common thing on this board. But, since I posted it, it must be true, and if you don't take me at my word, you are blinded by the light of your favorite (insert name here) politician.
I don't think there was any insinuation there. Just stating the facts. sm
Obama better wear a bullet proof vest all the time. I am voting for McCain, not because I like him but as a vote AGAINST Obama. I don't want a president that is not an American citizen much less one who believes in a different God than I do.
Stating our servicemen died for nothing.....
is misinterpreted. No one wants to lose one single troop. The war is senseless and our troops have to believe in what they are doing in order to survive. But, most could claim all wars are senseless. No, I did not know people were protesting our service people (the war, YES, but not our actual service members - head in the sand on that point). Ignorance, if they understood anything at all, they would understand that our troops are doing their jobs by following orders.
Horrible signs were stating
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Insinuating?? We're stating it as a fact!!!
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That is the most clear-cut stating of the facts that I have ever heard. sm
Unfortunately, this could go out on national TV and the Dems and others bowing at the "Altar of Obama" will just keep on blaming Bush and the Republicans.
I for one am going to send it to as many people as I can. It may not make a difference, but it sure can't hurt.
Palin stating Africa was a country
Even after losing the election, VP candidate Sarah Palin has continued to be in the news for various reasons. Among them was the claim that Palin is so stupid that she thought Africa was a continent, not a country. She was also said to not be able to name the three NAFTA countries. The source: “Unnamed former McCain advisers.”
Makes sense, right? After all, Sarah Palin is your typical simple-minded, non-Ivy-League-educated, baby-making, hick conservative Republican, right? She was John McCain’s middle finger to the American people, right libs?
Well, turns out the whole story is false, a hoax, a scam.
Only this time, one of the guilty parties is Fox News.
Nothing silly about stating obvious facts.
Voters recognized that and acted accordingly. It takes some longer than others to catch on.
What? She has a valid question and stating facts.
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What part of just stating fact escapes you?
didn't amount to a hill of beans when it came time for your representatives to roll their sleeves up and hammer out a compromise. My statements are supportive of bipartisan initiatives (as in both parties coming to a middle ground) that move us forward from here. Whether or not I agree with the plan, which side of the fence I live on or what percentage of support for the plan is reflected in the latest polls is immaterial at this point. I keep my eyes on the prize. Those folks needed to do THEIR JOBS, get past their differences, try to come up with solutions and do what is right for the economy...or at least give it their BEST shot. Go stir somebody else's pot.
Forget the bowing, how about Obama stating
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/5104350/Republicans-slam-Barack-Obama-over-American-arrogance-speech.html
WHO THE HECK DOES HE THINK HE IS? PRESIDENT OF THE WORLD?
Obama states America is changing. America showed arrogance, been dismissive and even derisive and in Europe, there is an anti-Americanism that is at once casual, but can also be insidious and blah, blah, blah. He just LOVES making speeches.
Canadian citizen just on the news stating how its
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The b/c issue - Stating factcheck as a reliable source
Since they are all one in the same. Factcheck is not an independent source.
McCain inside - stating his aspirations: I have always aspired to be a dictator.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p94Nvs9sZSA&feature=related
You Bushies are struggling to find a new daddy. Senator Hague (sp?) was a great senator and he was a logical man who appeared to be forthright - which is how I like my politicians.
It must be terrible for you to have had the man you placed in charge to have displaced blatant dereliction of duty in his handling of terrorism, the economy, international relations. I know you credit him for "keep us safe for 8 years" but Osama bin laden speech clearly stated his aim was not to fly jets into buildings or drop dirty bombs off at bus stops - but bankrupt America by way of war. This is retaliation against America for their involvement in the Israeli Palestinian conflict.
http://mprofaca.cro.net/binladen_transcript.html
By the way, do you find it rather odd that of all the countries in the world collapsing from their involvement in the U.S. stock market and corporations, Israel is not and is, in fact, economically thriving quite well. This is after veing at war nonstop for the past 15 years. Do you find that unusual in the least? Are you even curious about this since Paulson, Bernanke, Barney Frank along with the owners of the corporations that just been bailed out (why did they bail out freddie and fannie and not Indymac??? Why Bear Stearns and AIG but not Lehman Brothers????).
I have a feeling when everything is said and done, the world will realize we have been fleeced by an elite group of very determined men, men who have thought about this for years. Bush is a Harvard bus school grad. He appears stupid and everyone laughs and thinks it is endearing. But i think he is acting - he thought Iraqi's would greet us with flowers and chocalate? His father and Cheney have both been documented as saying a civil war would break out if Saddam was removed from power and that it would destabilize the middle east.
Bush and the republican party as they stand now are corrupt and I believe that many of the democrats are as well. Special interests and corrupt America as bought them. Now, you may disagree and defend every move made in the last eight years as smart but that is just your ego talking.
Repubs would be wise to listen to both sides a little more closely and raise your expectations for your next candidate.
Bush is accountable for the mess the country is in. He is a liar, a cheater and a thief - And you can bet he makes a bee line for So. America with his loot when his term is finally up. Bush, it is stated, was actually a black sheep in his family (Jeb was supposed to be the Bush son who reached the presidency, not George who was not his father's favorite child).
Not about the election.
As I have stated before, I am pro-life, but am just appalled at the things that extremists do--on both sides of this issue. I went to my OB/GYN the other day for a prenatal exam and my 2-year-old son found a business card with pictures of bloody pieces of fetuses on it that said that anyone who has an abortion will go to...well, you get the picture. While I am not entirely sure that this is not true, I am disgusted that someone would leave such a thing lying around where small children can find it. Luckily, my son just turned two and really did not realize what it was he was seeing, but just think if an older child had found such a thing. Sometimes I think that people get in their own ways when trying to make their points. I am sure that I am guilty of this, as are many others on this board. I actually just wanted to vent a little. Hope everyone is having a good afternoon!
No way did JFK's dad buy the election
I live in the same town as the Kennedys and they are notorious for not paying for things.
Election Day
A large group of my neighbors will be walking down the street together at 7:00 a.m. Tuesday morning to cast our votes for Barack Obama. It will probably end up being like a little block party in celebration of Obama.
No matter who wins this election, it will be a thrilling race and a shocking result!
LOL! Maybe next election!
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One day before the election. This is so sad.n/m
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election
If you mean McCain and Palin and "best man and best woman", I don't think so. Not unless you are super rich or, if middle class, you would care to get stomped on again, like we have been for the last eight years?!
Another example....if the election had gone the other way....
would you just have dropped all your concerns about McCain and started supporting him on this board? Of course you wouldn't. Don't act like you would. Geez. LOL.
What are you saying here? Before and after the election and
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LOL...the dow has been going down since before the end of the election (nm)
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When they come up for re-election
we will be provided the usual substandard party-approved (both parties) candidates to choose from - if it is an actual contested election. How often does a rogue candidate even get past the primaries in this country? And how effective could this hypothetical nonpartisan candidate be if elected, when the other kids in the House and Senate won't let him play?
Most candidates don't stand much chance against any incumbent. Seems that we vote based on 'name recognition' and don't much care in what context we recognize the name. Has to be the explanation for how some of these guys (and gals) stay in office term after term despite the fact that we despise them. Nobody can unseat them without party approval. And if you spend enough advertising bucks in the several weeks before election we'd vote for Genghis Khan.
Same theory as they use in product advertising. Say the name and slogan enough times on TV and when we get to the stores we'll recognize it on the shelf and figure it must be okay. See? All the hard decision-making has been done for us!
Obama was anointed by the democrats; McCain was anointed by the republicans, and I did not see a whole lot of difference between them. Both promised to take us in the same direction at slightly different speeds. So I voted for the lesser of two evils (lot of good it did me). And when you do that, it's easy to forget you still voted for evil.
Sad to say, we seem to get the candidates and products we deserve. We vote for whoever the party runs, buy the products that spend most on advertising, and that's pretty much that.
I am at a complete loss as to how to change any of this because it all seems to be one big interconnected system. Throwing the bums out is a great idea, but replace them with what? More party clones? I don't think a true populist candidate stands much chance against the two party machines we have.
the election is
Unless you own an oil well, I would not get too worked up about it.
So will the next election when we
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Were you like on Mars during the election? SM
Here's a clue, no one really listens to hatred. You need to cozy it up a bit, put a little whipped cream on it, disguise it a little. All the personal attacks and name-calling, while typical of you libbies, isn't very palatable. KnowwhatImeanVern?
2000 election
Yes, Bush did win only one election. The first election was handed to him by the Supreme Court Five. If it had been handled properly and fairly, Gore would have won as he had the popular vote.
Election my foot.
You still believe the last 2 elections were legit? Oh of course you do. You still can't get it through your thick head that Saddam had nothing to do with 911. Go back to your board. You people cannot stay off ours - why is that? Scared?
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