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An utter disrespect...

Posted By: Democrat on 2007-07-14
In Reply to: Firefighters Associatio: Giuliani - Urban Legend. - LVMT

and sad statement is made in this video.


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Sam is getting the same disrespect
It's been a long time coming. The same thing you are feeling about Palin has been going on about Obama for months....mostly generated or perpetuated. She would run Obama supporters off the board for weeks at a time. Finally, enough is enough and they are voicing their intolerance to the intolerance. At least there are 2 sides to the story showing up. Go back through the archives around June and July and you will see what I am talking about. It's not pretty, but this is better than the board being dominated by sam preaching to the choir.
No disrespect to McCain but... s/m

The fact that a person was an unfortunate POW does not necessarily make one presidential material, it makes them an unfortunate POW.  In reality throughout recent history most presidents with strong military backgrounds have made very poor presidents, such as Eisenhower, Churchill and the like. Their area of expertise in mainly regarding military matters with a lack and inability to graps other very important issues that face a president.


McCain's selling point is that he was a POW and that alone qualifies him for the job of president. It does not, and other than mattes military McCain has a rather weak grasp on other very vital issues.


This is utter BS, but I'd take a socialist nm
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Disrespect is nothing new on your side...
and it is not just directed at me, and to suggest so is being dishonest at best. You tolerate no opinion other than your own, want to discuss only issues that you are pro and do not tolerate discussion of any other viewpoint, and for people who call themselves Democrats that is a very undemocratic attitude. You hate an entire group of people (all Republicans...well I should say anyone who is not Democrat) for no reason other than that. Two sides? That's rich! There have never been 2 sides.

As to domination of the board....there are about 6 or 8 of you guys to 1 of mine. lol. Talk about blinders.
No disrespect...just not impressed.
Every man and woman in the military risks the possibility of becoming a prisoner of war at one time or another. The enemy does not pick only the "special" soldiers to be their prisoners. They take whomever they can get their grubby little hands on!
utter fool of herself. nm
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No disrespect taken, Kaydie.... sm
I certainly mean that. Respectful discourse is helpful in understanding other's points of view and even in formulating or strengthening our own opinions. I wouldn't want to take that away from anyone. This is one topic that you and I are just going to disagree on and it's best left at that.

Like you, I was raised in Sunday School and church as a child/youth but fell away from church in my early 20s and lived a fairly bohemian lifestyle for the next many years. I even held the "it's the woman's body" POV for a very long time. It was not until I found my way back to God that I realized that my earlier beliefs were not so much my beliefs but rather those of society around me and so I began searching for the answers that my soul needed. It was through that searching and reading my Bible that I came to understand that society's answers and God's answers are more often than not in conflict and that I would eventually have to answer to a higher authority than society for my beliefs and decisions. I realize, of course, that my decision has caused me to be "out of step" with the rest of the world, but that's okay with me because this world is just temporary and my eternity is based on things that are, well, eternal.
It is certainly not a show of disrespect,
and I hope no one takes it to mean that. As someone below points out, Mr. Washington himself preferred that and it has been carried out since. I am sure Mr. Obama is not offended by it.
I'm sorry but that is utter nonsense!

This is America people.  If you don't like our National Anthem or our flag being flown.......go back to whatever country you came from.  For someone to say that the American flag is offensive......that just shocks me.   We have lost our freedom to fly our own country's flag for fear of offending others.  What has our country come to.  This is America....that is our flag.....and it was a national holiday to remember veterans and she couldn't put an American flag out.  I truly don't buy that there were other people who were offended by it either.  What a crock. 


I think I would go out and buy a small flag and put it on my desk and keep it there everyday.  Screw that!


Yes, you win the disrespect and crudity award
Yeah, 49 to 66. I guess you guys win when it comes to disrespect.  Are you happy now?
The right has the market cornered on disrespect ...sm
to soldier's families. Hands down they win that award.

Especially if the family has anything contrary to say about this administration. Yeah, and we are the ones who don't support the soldiers.
I haven't seen disrespect either. He wears
the flag pin if that makes any difference to a country that is being sh-- canned!
Your disrespect for the wisdom of elders
Might try reading up on the brilliant genius that IS Lee Iacocca. Take a look at his photo...84 and looks 20 years younger. Sharp as a tack, as demonstrated by the level of expertise and thorough analysis expressed in the piece he wrote. The smartest thing he said, in essence, was "Dude, where's my country?"

In any cas, your petty, drive-by sound byte is a mere reflection of the same bankrupt leadership he decries, prime example being the tanking McSame.

BTW, here's a few other millionaires who endorse Obama, every single one of the former pubs:
1. Warren Buffet
2. Colon Powell
3. Susan Eisenhower
4. Julie Nixon Eisenhower
5. Senator Lincoln Chafe
6. Gov Linwood Holton (VA)
7. Mayor Richard Riordan (LA CA)
8. Bill Ruckelhaus
9. Douglas Kmiec
10. (Former) Mayor Ed Koch (NY)
11. Ken Adelman
12. General Tony McPeak
13. Donald Capoccia
14. Jackson M. Andrews
15. Richard J. Schwartz
16. Todd Garrett,
17. Michael Smercornish
18. Richard B. Stewart
19. Jim Whitaker
20. Ambassador Thomas Graham Jr



The very nerve!!! The utter gall!!!
Imagine McC hosting a dinner honoring Obama. NOT!
I agree. This is a complete and utter...... sm
show of lack of respect for his family. They have lost a loved one and should be left alone in their time of grief. While I don't agree with his chosen profession, his family is not to blame and they are the ones being hurt by this, not him.
Your 2nd paragraph is complete and utter nonsense. sm
You wrote: 'Besides, a lot of atheists who try to disprove that God ever existed will usually come to the conclusion that there is too much evidence to prove that He does exist. It usually scares the you know what out of them and they become converts.'

And you know this how? I would say show me the evidence to back up this ridiculous claim, but I already know you have none. It's your opinion/religious propaganda, and it's blantantly false. You also have it backwards. You're implying people start out being athiest, then convert to religion. It's the other way around, when religious or secular people start questioning all the improbable/impossible things the bible is overflowing with, in addition to all of its inconsistenties and outright contradictions.

Forgive me if I doubt that you're an expert on athiests, and forgive me if I doubt your critical thinking skills, because religion frowns upon that - you're not supposed to question god or think for yourself, just obey his commands, or should I say, various human interpretations of his commands...

If there was indeed
'too much evidence to prove that He does exist' then everyone would believe in him. How could anyone deny it? They couldn't. But that's just it, there is no evidence to prove it, whereas there actually IS scientific evidence to the contrary, that you apparently are unaware of or haven't investigated.

Instead, you're willing to believe something based only on 'faith.' In every other area of your life where you'd want or even *demand* facts, proof, or concrete evidence before believing something so important, with religion (some) people are all too willing to blindly accept it on faith.

BTW, an athiest doesn't have to DISprove god (you can't prove a negative, anyway), you have to prove that he *does* exist, and you can't. And wouldn't you think if he really existed, he would prove it to the entire world's satisfaction anyway and put an end to the debate and all the relious wars, conflict, genocide, misery, suffering, etc? He'd rather we kill each over it? I think not. It makes no sense.

You also wrote: 'You can say all you want, but you just can't argue with a completely changed life'

Yes, I can argue it. You changed your life because *you* wanted to change it. You! Not some mystical, magical, invisible being in the sky who cares about your every thought and action. People change their lives for the better every day, without religion. IMO, if you hadn't found religion, you would've kept looking until you found something else that worked for you, and it probably would've been a lot healthier than the brainwashing, closed-minded, divisive phenomenon that is religion.

utter rubbish - show us the link
This is complete and utter nonsense. What study? One by democratic backers? Show me the link. The democrats have always been the "party dudes", usually you find more doped up, meth heads, war protesters, group hug type people voting democrat. They vote on looks and personality, not issues. Maybe when you said even keel instead you should have said "doped up to the state of oblivian". The conservatives have always been the party of free thinkers, small business owners, intellects, level headed, and open minded individuals. We look at both sides and listen to both opponents, and we are intelligent enough to decide who is throwing the "bull" around.

Every post I see on this board from a liberal is usually attacking personal and unimportant things (her daughter is pregnant, she was in a beauty contest, she had a down syndrom baby, she bought a tanning bed, she went to more than one school McCain is old, his wife is rich, Barack is good looking and his wife is pretty, he's a graduate of a law school, Biden (well nobody is saying anything about Biden - makes me wonder why). But all the issues I'm seeing by the liberals are all personality issues. Nothing of subtance. The messages I'm seeing from the conservatives are about issues. This is what Barack's policy will do, this is what McCain's policy will do, this is where Palin stands on this issue, etc.
utter nonsense - where in the world did you come up with this line
Been watching a little too much Dr. Phil I guess.

This is utter nonsense and if so then we better keep an eye on you with everything you've been saying.
You're obvious willingness to believe utter crap said it. nm
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I agree with poster below. Don't even waste your time reading the post. - Sarcastic and utter no
Oh brother - get real.