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And, I don't try to live up to any expectations of anyone on this board.

Posted By: Democrat on 2005-08-09
In Reply to: Wow, Democrat. I expected more from you. SM - MT

I'll admit I put my 2 cents in, but I just thought Brunson ought to know a little history, and I don't back off of what I said - it's my observation. I have had my fair share being personally attacked just for posting liberally, so spare me the high road pep talk.

I don't get into name calling and don't agree with anyone wishing death or harm to anyone. That's just not me and if I open a post like that GUESS WHAT? I don't continue to read the string if it's that bad or bothers me.

I come here for political debate not "he said she said."


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    expectations
    I don't really expect any president to be able to do all the things they promise in their campaigns.  I just hope that things don't turn out as bad as we think.  I hope that we who did not support O are wrong for the sake of our country.
    Oh please. Even HE has no expectations of himself.
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    Lowering expectations...

    http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/31/obama-lays-plans-kill-expectations-election-victory/


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    Interesting.


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    Dear Miss Thang. If you dont like it, dont watch.
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    rational to one is irrational to another..dont like it, dont read it
    Rational posts?  Well, maybe you would think that, however, I disagree..but, what the heck, from your continual posts attacking me over the past few months, it is obvious that we dont agree on anything.  Gotta tell ya, no one chases a person from a chat board..that is a lame excuse for someone who obviously was not able to hold his/her own with the smart liberals who post on this  liberal board.  So gt chased her/him away.  On please!  If a poster is getting to you, you just ignore their posts..dont click on them..Viola!  It is that easy!  Or dont come on the liberal board if you do not like liberal ideology!  Viola!  It is that easy!  So, Im here all the time am I?  Well, punkin, I see your handle always on both this board and the dinosaur board..er..I mean conservative board.  Is this what your debating has gotten down to?  Lets count and see who is here more often?  How ridiculous, how childish, how so....republican.  **BIG HUG**
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    nm
    Any of you live in the midwest? Just in case you live down the road from me...

    I live in Wisconsin and am often also in Minnesota.


    No, I'm not a stalker or a weirdo (my opinion, anyway).


    Yeah, tell me again how liberals want to live and let live....what a joke!!!! nm
    why not just tell the truth? That only extends to liberals.*I have had it with Republicans...* a whole group of people tossed out like garbage. *I will not respond to your posts nor read them.*

    As to Ann Coulter...the left has their share..Michael Moore, AL Franken...do you ever look at your own party?

    That is the most INtolerant post I have seen here in a LONG time.

    Liberals true colors always come out...regardless of how much they say they are the MOST tolerant, and want EVERYone to live and let live...everyone if you happen to be liberal.

    We are all Americans...and America is about debate. Tell me, liberal Democrat, again how you care about ALL Americans. Talk about ringing hollow.
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    I dont WANT war. Dont judge me!
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    So you and your buds bash us on *your* board and suddenly, once you reach this board,

    some respect?


    You publicly post on the other board that you *try not to visit the bog of eternal stench.*


    Well, doesn't look like you are trying all that hard. Or is that another example of Conservative honesty, like your buddy on the other board lies 3 times before suddenly deciding to be *up front* (in her own words) about the whole bogus line of crap she was spouting.


    You and your 2 friends don't respect anyone unless they're a member of your little club, think exactly as you think, belong to the same political party as you belong, and believe in the very same little narrow SUBsection of one particular religion.


    That's what I interpret from YOUR WRITTEN WORDS.  Your posts don't show respect.  They only show twisted *facts*, ignorance, anger and hatred.


    You can't be *respectful* on your own board but suddenly, when you come here - HERE - the place YOU call *the bog of eternal stench* you suddenly discover some respectability during your mouse click from there to here?


    Please.  Some of us aren't as stupid as you think we are.


    You're becoming quite a bore.  You and your friends stated you don't want us on your board, but you're not happy unless you're picking a fight.  You and your *gang* told us to leave and not to post on *your* board.  Maybe that should work both ways.


    Out of ALL the problems with radical Conservatives, maybe the most annoying thing is that you don't believe in equality at all.  You believe in SUPERIORITY.  Somewhere along the line, someone made you think you were special and above everyone else.  Sheesh!  You're not happy unless you're dictating to everyone else in the country what they're allowed to do in their own personal lives regarding life, death, science, etc. You even think YOUR GOD IS BETTER than everyone else's.


    You want to make the rules, censor people and tell them which boards they can and cannot post on, but YOU want to invade them all and spew your ignorance and hatred. 


    In my heart, I believe there are sincere, honest, intelligent Conservatives out there who are capable of a sensible debate.  I've seen them.  (I hope you don't chase them away, too.)  But and your crew don't fall in that category, and this will be the last of your inane posts I will subject myself to.


    Talk about stench. Just read your very own posts.


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    Can we get the political board back to the true purpose of this board – to share opinions of why we like our candidate.  Not bash and cut down others because they don’t agree with you.


    I stayed away from this board for the past couple days because anyone who had anything positive to say about Sarah Palin got slammed, bashed, kicked down, etc.  After awhile I found it all too draining, and was not seeing any reason to come.  Yes, I did see some of it towards people who favored Barack Obama, but if you read the posts again it is mostly towards anyone who favored Sarah Palin/John McCain.


    I thought the political board was for posting information regarding politics and candidates.  What I have seen for the past few days is that it has been an attack board.  Especially if you have anything positive you want to share about Sarah Palin.  You say something good about her and you get attacked, you answer back, and you get attacked more, and then when you get mad and pretty much say stop attacking me, they come back with this “Geez, I’m allowed to have an opinion”.


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    I also saw posts that had nothing to do with politics but attacking a poster named Sam.  Again, probably trying to get another fight going for no good reason and on things that have nothing to do whatsoever with politics.  I’ve read “Sam is like an annoying nat that you sway away”, “Sam, please let me know where you work” or “she must have her quota” or “sam is to the politics board as oracle is to the”  This childish rhetoric is getting old.  I’m not defending sam she is a big girl and I can see by her posts she can take care of herself, but my point is that this has nothing to do with politics.  If you want a fight maybe you could request that the administrator create a separate “fight and degrade” section.


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    nm
    LOL! Dont you know? EVERYTHING is
    nm
    dont you have any

    family or friends that you might think about for a while.  The victors of the election hold no truck with you.


     


    I dont see it that way, but then again, I am not
    nm
    I dont agree
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    A christian, hun?? I dont think so

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    Dont comment, please
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    Yes! -and dont like to be mean, really, but "Barney"
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    nm
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    the thing I dont get...
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