As long as the posting is not personal, they are allowed to post here. sm
Posted By: BuckeyeLil (Moderator) on 2007-02-02
In Reply to: Could you please take your discussion to your own board - Gadfly
If you have a problem with that, that is your problem. I have been watching these boards closely. I have seen some posts come pretty close to personal insults, but as long as they don't, and the Administrator's rules, which were posted earlier, are not broken, cross-posting is allowed.
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...just as long as it's your own personal brand.
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You can keep posting garbage like this all day long....
But that really doesn't compensate for the lack of a plan or facts. Actually, I think all the negative campaigning, rumors and innuendos combined with a lack of a plan, is why the McCain/Palin boat is sinking right now. And yet you continue with this like it's going to solve something. 
Remember you're dealing with a woman who not too long ago proclaimed she would not be posting
on this particular forum. She is not credible and as someone else said several months ago, seems to be "nuts." It's funny how someone like this can get us so riled up. She's hard to ignore.
I am posting what I post
because I believe that people who disparage people who are in certain situations have never been in that situation themselves or they would not do so, disparage that is. The people I chose to describe are the **usual suspects** that are commonly maligned as having **victim or entitlement** mentalities. I am just saying it is very easy to sit in one's airconditioned home in this record heat summer and speak ill of others, especially if you have no experience whatsoever with what that person is going through. We were talking about Lebanon initially but that terminology *victim and entitlement* mentality are red flags for me and it makes me think of how many times I have heard the least of our brethern badmouthed on these boards. It's just wrong. But back to Lebanon, so what they went there of their own accord, so what Lebanon is a dangerous place, so is New York and New Orleans and Miami and Newark and London and Madrid...Given 24 to 72 hours to get what stuff you can, your kids, the elderly and get on a boat would probably be very difficult and frightening for a lot of people. If one has not walked a mile in another's shoes, one might try to be a little less abrasive.
I just need to say this...(long post)
Hi Everyone
First let me say I am not trying to start a war here. I just feel the need to say this. I have been following along on this board for awhile, trying to get a sense of politics. I never used to follow them, I always figured the ones with all the money would be the ones who made the decisions, but then I decided if I didn't learn and vote, I had no right to be upset when things didn't go my way.
I guess I would call myself an independent, as I can't align myself 100% with either side.
On the democrats side, I like the idea of change, but I feel that sometimes to much change can also be a bad thing. One extreme to the other I guess. Plus, I have some moral issues there, things I believe in that democrats don't I guess.
On the republicans side, I feel that things may not change enough. But they tend to align with my ideas of morals and what not, so I guess I'm leaning that way.
Really for me I feel like I'm picking the lesser of two evils this election. I don't think Obama and Mccain could be anymore opposite from each other.
Anyways so that's my political views. The second thing I want to talk about is about the constant hate I see towards Christianity. Don't worry, I'm not going to go all psychoreligious here, just want to state my view for what it's worth.
I recently became a Christian about a year ago. I toyed with it on and off during my teenage years, and then decided I didn't need it. I think it was more because I wanted to be "free" and do what I wanted to without obligation, and I knew that I couldn't do that and claim to be a Christian (unfortunately, many Christians do). Another reason was because I observed the hypocrisy of the church and its members. How could these people claim to be followers of Christ while they talked behind each others back, stole, cheated, lied, etc? I couldn't believe it.
Lucky for me I ended up marrying the preacher's son (haha) and yes, they are as bad as they say. He proposed to me in a bar. Every girls dream, right? Anyways, the honeymoon ended pretty quickly and I figured we were headed for a quick divorce. At the time we had been "playing church" to appease his father, but never really cared or paid attention. One night I just lost it and I finally said "Ok God, you've got my attention, what?" Slowly he started to show me things that I needed to work on. and slowly our marriage improved. Today, we work with a youth group at our little church and I love those kids (which is crazy for me, because I really never liked being around kids or small children, they always annoyed me). I'm even thinking I may want one of my own some day! (eek!)
Anyways that's my testimony. I wrote that to say this:
I understand why a lot of people hate us (Christians). The majority of our group can be hypocritical. A lot of us lack the tact that it takes to talk with someone about our faith. A lot of us just want to point fingers and say "you sinner! repent!" and never take the time to get to know the person at all. It seems that a lot of us are just trying to "win souls" and not befriend people. A lot of us think that because we sit on a pew and give money we are doing our job. Others want to get out and tell people about Jesus, but they don't want to do the dirty work it takes to SHOW who Jesus is through their work. It irritates me as much as it irritates you. And I promise there are other Christians who feel the same way. I also promise that there are Christians out there who are sincerely just trying to do the Lord's work, and want to help and be there for you regardless if you come to Christ or not. Do we wish everyone would? Of course. Should we despise or dislike those who don't? No.
I guess what I really want to say in all this is please don't let religion stand in the way of a personal relationship with Jesus. If you feel like there is a hole in your life, maybe He is what you need to fill it. I really believe that everyone feels a bit of emptiness when they don't know Him. I know that's hard to understand if you don't believe in God or Jesus at all. No one can force you to. Some people are going to read this and roll there eyes and call me crazy, and that's fine. But if your someone like me who was sitting on the fence, who felt an empty spot, then why not give Him a chance? I don't think you'll regret it.
I'm sorry if this upsets or offends anyone, that isn't my purpose here. I just felt like it was something that needed to be said. There has been a lot of back and forth on this board and things get so trivial sometimes.
I wish the best for everyone! I pray that everyone will soon be out of the crunch that most of us seem to be in and things get better for all of us!
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Great post, A. Thanks for posting.
Too bad more don't see the bigger picture for what it truly is in this case.
Let me try this from a different perspective (long post!)
First off, thank you for your post. Thanks for not bashing.
Second, I HATE IT when you've typed a huge long thing and it gets erased! !!!!
Anyways, I want to come at this from a different angle. From one of very few conservative college students left.
As the campaign and election unfolded, the things I witnessed in this college town and across the nation did not remind me of the last presidential elections.
I watched as signs and Facebook statuses said "Barack the vote!" or "The White House is going to be painted BLACK B*T*HS!" or "My president is BLACK!!"
Very mature.
I watched as shirts were being sold that had a giant "O" on them resembling the "S" for Superman.
I watched as bars promoted "FREE SHOTS FOR EVERY STATE THAT GOES BLUE!" like they do for everytime UGA scores a touchdown.
I watched people who in 40 or 50 years have never once voted, but now go and register to vote for O. And I am not denying the historical significance of him running or being elected. But the simple fact is that there were quite a few black people who went out and registered to vote for him, not caring about what he stood for. There were also white people who went out and registered to vote so they could vote against him, but I do not believe the numbers were equal.
I decided to pull a Howard Stern yesterday in talking to one of my friends. I said "I'm so glad Obama is a Pro-lifer!" Her answer? "I know, isn't he great?!" ......?!?!?
This is my problem. Obama has been presented as a ROCK STAR, not a presidential candidate. Girls are swooning over his good looks. He threw a 2 million (probably more than that by now) Obamapalooza Tuesday night. The reaction to him is like one you might see if a college found out Green Day or 50 cent was going to come perform for them.
Everyone is so excited that the 18-24 year olds are finally getting out and voting and that we had record turnouts. Nevermind they don't have a clue what for. Nevermind that they probably voted Obama and then just randomly picked all the other names on the ballot. Nevermind that they didn't research the issues, or think past their four years in college.
If someone voted for Obama with understanding of what he was for and what his plans were, that is fine. I have no beef with that. That is what makes our nation so great. My problem is that the majority of NEW voters don't seem to have a clue. I watch on Facebook as classmates plaster pictures of Obama looking hot on the cover of Ebony. Or write I heart Obama! All over their cars.
This election just did not seem dignified to me. I really don't care that Mccain lost. He wasn't my No. 1 choice. What I do care about is that the majority of people voted on a Rock Star, not a President.
I know that we can't have quizzes or what not before voting because it would be similar to the Jim Crow laws, but their needs to be something. People shouldn't just be allowed to blindly vote for the highest office in our country.
Again, I'm not saying that everyone did. If you knew what Obama/Biden stood for when you cast your vote for him, that's fine, unless you just say "he stands for change!".
Look, I hope I have to eat crow for the next four years. I hope he turns out to be the greatest bipartisan president I have ever seen and he just makes this country into an amazing place. But it's going to take an act of God for that to happen I believe. There will be a great uniting of liberals and left leaners, I am sure. But I feel like us conservatives who hold to tradition and God are going to become few and far between. There is already a shortage of true Christians in this nation. THAT'S what I fear. I fear the fact that talking against a group or religion is a hate crime, unless it's against Christianity. I fear the fact that I'm going to try to be forced to accept what is against my beliefs. I fear that in an effort to "unite" this country, we are going to be expected to compromise on our beliefs.
Like I said, I hope I am wrong. I hope that Obama turns out to be an amazing guy and puts this country on the right track. But there is a reason for a left and a right. We who lean right shouldn't be expected to go left, and vice versa. But as the president, he is representing ALL PEOPLE, and therefore needs to stay right in the middle.
I would like to see him elect some strong conservatives to his cabinet to balance out some of the strong liberals. I would like to see him elect supreme court justices that balance each other. These actions would cause me to give him some trust.
I will say this. This young conservative will be keeping a watch. And she will be writing him and anyone else she needs to when she feels that things are going to far to one side. Right or left.
From this point forward starts a blank page. Like I said before, He has a 0 with me right now. With the pick of Emanuel, he's leaning to the negative, but if he balances it out with a conservative pick, we'll be good.
shoulda read your post before posting mine...
I think that we said some of the same things, and here I thought I was an original!
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Excellent post - best I've seen in a long time
Thanks for posting. I really wish more people would think like this. I just want someone qualified who will do what is best for the people of the country. It's just not happening and hasn't been for some time. Forget the name calling and who started it. All I know is it's broken and needs to be fixed and this is an excellent way to fix it.
Did you post this on Gab board: I think I'm going crazy - need some insight (long) - anon..nm
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post the link only, not the whole article and the link. See rules for posting.
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You'll be waiting a long, long time, then, cuz she's going to do
He died a long, long time ago! (If he was ever
Don't force your beliefs on others. It further devalues your faith in the eyes of others.
It is not too much to ask to be allowed
on the politics board. The moderators have some in from time to time to remind us of the lay of the forums. Religion has its very own forum. Please use it when appropriate and respect the rest of us who simply want you to GIVE IT A REST.
Exactly, how else were millions allowed to die...sm
And genocide is not something of the past. Darfur is the here and now, but we are not effected economically (i.e., oil), so we go on our merry little way.
I have to agree also....he should not be allowed (sm)
to make a dime and Fox should not facilitate him. No one should. It would be nice if no one bought the book and no one watched....but we all know they will and they will. All I can really speak for is myself...I certainly won't be buying or watching.
And that's your opinion. We are all allowed to have one.
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So it shouldn't be allowed
because everyone might suddenly become gay and there would be no offspring? How about artificial insemination? This is a new one on me!
New VP candidate allowed to appear
for 30 seconds - no talking - for news cameras with world leaders. Now, let's hear you say she doesn't have any foreign experience -- here look at this picture.
If we are not allowed to express
political viewpoints.....what is the point of a political board?
I have know idea to what post you are referring to that you posted and was removed. You would have to take that up with the moderator.
I am proud that RW is being allowed to
been convicted and knows in HIS heart to be right without fear. I hope there has been no compromise or deal in the background made and I do not believe RW is of this character. I am afraid that you are right, the people who elected Obama will not be listening to what RW will have to say because they do not know who he will be talking to. I know this is just something for you and a lot of others to just laugh off, but one of the saddest days of this election was the day the Billy Graham Ministry resigned as as pastor/counselor to the the president since serving in that capacity since Eisenhower. They resigned just a few days after Nov 4.
Excuse me? So it's only allowed to say bad things
The first person stated republicans are strange. The first person could hardly know every republican in the USA and her statement was inflammatory. The second person returned the observation, and you say "typical," as though you know who posted it and what is typical behavior of that person? Tsk. You disappoint me, oldtimer. Here I thought perhaps you'd be a voice of reason. First you say stop petty attacks and then you stoop to flinging yourself. Talk about lack of credibility. You're either with them or against them. Did you decide if you can't beat 'em, join 'em?
Citizens are allowed to vote
with any motivation they wish - FOR someone, AGAINST someone, because they had soup for lunch, etc. Supreme Court (hey there's a case someone can discuss) upheld same-day registration and voting. Since they know the constitution and the law, I will trust their judgment.
The election system is OBVIOUSLY sound, because when Ohioans suggested that the Bush reelection count was rigged, they were denounced as conspiracy theorists. One cannot have it both ways.
A Christian is not allowed to comment on Israel? nm
Have we made new rules? I didn't know that! When did that happen! By the way, sm is exactly right. Ariel Sharon has made a mistake that will doom Israel. This is a man who wept on television with fury when saying he would never give up an inch of land and then handed the Gaza strip away. If you have been following this story for some time, decades, as I have, then you know what a tragedy this is. One does not have to be Jewish to understand it. In fact, if you understand the Biblical significance, you get the picture. And, of course, Sharon was wrong, as Hamas now wants Jerusalem.
They already ARE allowed to stay silent. That's the irony of this.
It's just one crazy loon who wants to foist HIS version of the world on the rest of us, which is no better than ramming religion down a person's throat. What about those who wish to say the pledge, now they can't. It was better the way it was... Say it if you want, don't say it if you don't want to. That way everybody has the freedom to choose.
And I want to know why the bin Ladens were allowed to leave the country...sm
The day after the attacks???
The trick is, truffle....you are allowed unlimited...
posts, along as you support the party line. But if you deviate...katy bar the door! They are so tolerant, these dems. They believe in individual freedoms...and shame if the government infringes on them!! But if THEY want to infringe on them...then that is AAAAA-OKKKK. The Audacity of Deception and Hypocrisy...lol.
I never said citizens weren't allowed to vote.
I just do not think that same day register and voting should be allowed. That is my personal opinion and I have the right to have that opinion regardless on how a court ruled on the subject.
Spelling police not allowed on this board.
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Not allowed. Pubs haven't learned
LOL
I agree, isn't he even allowed to make some jokes.
because is the President-Elect?
Duh?
Guess he wasn't allowed to use the DOD planes
unlike some others... =)
I wonder if he'll be allowed to take the famous brush!!
Homosexuality was never allowed in ancient times
and it did not become a sin because the christians said it is a sin. It's written in the Bible and this I believe, because it is 'detestable', it is so written in the Bible:
' Below are some Bible verses that condemn homosexuality:
Leviticus 18:22 - You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 - If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death.....'
It wasn't legal, it was unlawfully allowed; thus, the
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yes, seoparated is still married, no flings allowed...nm
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Because so far I'm still allowed to express my honest opinion. He hasn't taken that away from us
yet.
Those are his words, and what is scary is that I think he believes it. It's bad enough we've got enemies who believe they're in a religious war. With each passing day, I'm starting to think HE believes he's in one, too. If that's the case, we're in more trouble than anyone could have thought.
My post was about HIM, not about you. But it isn't the first time a Bush groupie has PERSONALLY attacked a poster for expressing their opinion about BUSH. Now, how do you think that makes YOU look? Maybe it's YOU who should grow up or at least WAKE up and see what he's doing, not just to us but to the entire WORLD.
As long as we all still have freedom of expression, I'll continue to express my views, whether you like them or not.
And I hope you keep posting. Nobody can prove my point for me like a Bush groupie, and I do appreciate the help!!
I thought lewd pornographic content is not allowed here...nm
So your in favor of a creep who tazered a child to be allowed
She put a stop to this creep being able to abuse his position as a cop who tazered a 10-year old child and put fear into a family with death threats.
She had the proper and legal authority to fire him. She should have also fired the person who didn't fire him.
If you think its okay to let thugs run around the streets in cop uniforms yielding badges and guns tazering children and threatening death to people your a real piece of work.
I guess we are allowed to call names so YOU ARE a FOOL nm
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I rest my case. Obviously this person does not understand that in America we are allowed to have our
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Cindy Sheehan not allowed to watch SOU address, was arrested.
Curiously, CNN reported that Cindy had UNFURLED A BANNER INSIDE THE CHAMBER WHICH IS AGAINST THE STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS RULES.
Half an hour later we learn that no such thing happened. Cindy simply wore a T-shirt with an antiwar message on it and was promptly hauled off to jail.
In Bushworld, you can not only be arrested and hauled off to jail for wearing a controversial T-shirt, but the major media will also make up ridiculous lies about you and broadcast them world-wide. That's some performance for a liberal press. But oh ho ho, we were all being so paranoid four years ago to claim that the press was a willing servant of deliberate Rovian disinformation spinmeisters. Once again, we are right on the mark and the Repubs? - blind and wrong and misdirected as usual - let us count the many things about which the progressive thinking people of this nation have been absolutely correct, and the Bush supporters oh so regrettably wrong. Wow, it would take pages and pages!
Can't tell them anything though - they can't admit it when they are wrong. The way things are going, they're going to deny us right into the communist USSR of 1965 - the state our teachers used to scare us about in 1965 - and we would think, oh, how awful to live in a place where the government controls all the media, where protestors are thrown in jail, where you have to be worried about speaking above a whisper if you criticize the government, because your own neighbor will turn you in! Oh those poor people, having their mail opened and never being able to see any real news, only what the govt. wants them to see!
But of course that was back in the days when dissent was patriotic, when Americans didn't spy on each other, when the govt. could not throw you in jail without a trial, when even Presidents had to resign if they wiretapped you without a warrant. You know, the OLD America, when nobody was above the law and citizens were shocked when the lies and deceit and self-serving greed of elected officials was exposed, instead of sniggering and giggling behind their hands about how bold their guys are, and ain't it grand they're still in charge.
Gee, I really miss it - was good while it lasted, and something to tell the grandkids about.
Debate is allowed on the political forums. Be respectful in your posts. If you
cannot post in kind, DON'T POST.
Don't take it so personal...sm
This is a debate. We will not always agree. It is perfectly normal for you to agree on one thing and be opposed on something else, especially talking with people on the opposite of your political spectrum.
Ward Churchill - see below
Would I care of someone judged me for posting an F-word, no because I apologized and it truly was a mistake, believe it or not. I'm sure no such apology will come from Ann to these widows.
What question is it that I didn't answer?
You are right, it is personal. sm
And it has consequences and I am not talking about physical ones.
cant we do without the personal
attacks? Hippocrite. (A hippo crossed with a hypocrite).
SOY was the one who made it personal anyway.
**This fits many on THIS board...To fear the LORD is to hate evil; I hate pride and arrogance, evil behavior and perverse speech.**
Maybe you missed that because you've stereotyped, judged and sentenced the liberals already.
POLITICS NOT PERSONAL
I believe you are mistaken. It is almost impossible to carry on a political discussion without getting personal. Political alignments are based on personal beliefs. And as for you trials and tribulations, she said nothing about what you've gone through in your life with the exception of, you know nothing of persecution.
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