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Beck and O'Reilly and Hannity...

Posted By: Zville MT on 2009-03-18
In Reply to: To all the above commentators: - sm

and for that matter Olberman and Matthews are not journalists, so-called or otherwise. They are commentators, which means they comment on the news, not report it. They share their opinions about news stories and have other people on their shows to discuss their opinions. It's not news, it's not reporting, it's simply opinion and people that watch it know that.

People that watch Fox are not uneducated or 'dittoheads' - it just so happens that our opinions and feelings about government and what's going on in this country and the world jive with most of the opinions on Fox. If you watch MSNBC or others it's because your opinion jives with what they're saying.

It doesn't give either group the right to say the other is brainwashed or pathetic, it just means we are of a different mindset and personally, I don't think that's a bad thing - if everyone was always of the same mindset, the Revolutionary War would have never been fought and we'd all be singing God Save the Queen.

You just have to remember to respect that people have different ideas and beliefs than you do - you don't have to agree, but at least have some respect.


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Racists and bigots like, lets see, McCain and Palin, Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Coulter and Hannity?
Give me a break....
Hannity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x9ejtfRimQ
I may not have been a big Hannity fan but.
in this case, he's got it dead on..........he is doing nothing more than what every other loyal American would do.....STAND UP FOR THEIR RIGHTS!

He is right on the mark when he says Obama is stripping away more and more rights right before the masses, the blind masses at that. They refuse to see anything else but their precious Obama!

You might be glad SOMEONE is looking out for your rights because it's obvious you're not!

Flame all you want....couldn't care less!
Go Hannity!!! nm
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Me too. I don't like Hannity and Colmes at all...sm
they're both so extreme. I do agree there is an awful lot of yelling going on by both of them, when they disagree with people on their show.
Agree with Hannity..nm
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Hannity does get carried away with his
passion at times, but there is never a doubt about where he stands on an issue and he is a man of his word for sure. It seems to me that Olberman would be hard put for a show without Fox News and, especially O'Reilly. He spends a large portion of his time each week trying to put them down, but their ratings continue to grow above MSNBC.

Now, when you talk about something being inciteful, there was an article someone posted on here the other day that I took to be very inciteful. It was copied and pasted from some leftwing far-out site reminding dems to never forget how long they have waited to gain complete control of the government and to never forget all they hate for the pubs they are holding on to. They are not to ever let it go and now it is time for pay back. That was one of the most frightening things I have read in a very long time.

I cannot believe that we have let this become an issue of pubs vs dems. We are all AMERICANS! I cannot believe people are harboring this kind of hate for their fellow American. I am very concerned about this and I hope others are also.
The gospel according to Saint Hannity...
Sean Hannity must be your personal messiah and you, his most devoted messenger. His trite, tiresome, buzz-word riddled, rambling rants, raves and regurgitations echo throughout all of your posts and you employ some of the same shallow, superficial strategies he does in his endless endeavors to dodge, deflect and deceive his way through viable political discourse. Intelligence is a terrible thing to waste on such unsubstantiated, vacuous prattle. You definitely have it, but don’t seem to know how to use it, at least in terms of exhibiting evidence of even the tiniest trace of an original thought or idea.

Long on spin, short on substance, fundamentally incapable of objectivity, manufactured, wildly speculative, markedly biased theory-building, jumping to conclusions, void of veracity, without fail, skipping the dirty work of relentless data gathering, fact checking and close scrutiny…no tireless search for truth anywhere to be seen. Too bad. That’s the fun part that bears the best fruit of all…can you say self-enrichment? Inflexible and frightened of fact, running as far away as possible when encountered, paranoid, threatened and suspicious of the huge bodies of knowledge passed down to use through the ages. Not a pretty picture.

Sigh. Yes, I saw the tape and read the FULL transcript, took the sound byte and put it back where it belongs…back into its original context. My husband speaks 4 languages, my son speaks 3, I only speak 2. Trust me, Sam, it’s not fatal, it does not diminish the importance of English and it has not made us any less American. Multicultural high brow rhetoric poses no threat to you or to our country. Let me reiterate this. No one said anything about REQUIRING a second language, just expressed the opinion that it would be a good idea. You got something against the idea of Anglo children “getting along” with immigrant children? That’s pretty cold, I must say.

Once again, there are plenty of ESL programs out there for immigrants and they DO learn English. That is why we don’t need to worry about it. I live in Houston and our Spanish-speaking population is largely bilingual, thank you very much. BTW, Houston takes much pride in its multicultural nature. Most of us believe it would truly be a boring place to live were we not. We do not limit ourselves to one or two flavors of immigrant. We have largely visible Cuban, Jamacian, Pureto Rican, Costa Rican, Honduran, Guatemalan, El Salvadoran, Korean, Vietnamese, Chinese, Filipino, Pakistani, Indian, Afgani, Iranian, Iraqi, Jordanian, Syrian, Palestinian, Lebanese, Israeli, Egyptian, Turkish, Russian, Greek, Bosnian, Somali, Kenyan, Sudanese, Ethiopian, South African, Angolan and Nigerian presence in our midst.

We have adopted an inclusive approach to our immigrant “problem”. We have learned to distinguish between them when we pass by on the street, not only by their physical charcteristics and native dress, but by the subtle cultural differences that are displayed in their behaviors. We are familiar with their customs and we respect one another, not only for our differences, but also for what we have in common. We work together, play together and worship together in churches, mosques and temples. We do business with one another without a blink of an eye or a second thought. Our restaurants serve up exquisite international cuisines. We enjoy each other’s art, music, literature and theater. They all bring color, spirit and life to our city. We certainly do not feel the least bit intimidated when we hear them speak their own language. We do the best we can to teach them how to speak ours. Guess what? It works out quite nicely.

That is why I heard Obama’s statement differently than you did. For me, yes it was about multiculturalism. I understand quite well where he is is coming from. Here’s a news flash for you. That national language debate is not being had by the majority of us….just the xenophobic right-wing fringe. The French part of your post is too weird to address…only to say that Obama used this as an example to illustrate a much larger issue. Again, you need to do some homework. The entire EU has immigration issues, but not the kind of “problems” Hannity’s cohorts would like to conjure up. Again, as you repeat yourself, so do I. Now hear this….they DO learn English, so DON’T WORRY.

Let’s leave Krushchev out of this and save him for another day. And let me make this perfectly clear to you. I am proud of America and the ideals it strives to uphold. But when national pride turns the “ism” corner and assumes an exclusionary puritanical Nazi-tinged nationalism, it has morphed into something ugly, dangerous and decidedly unAmerican.

I don't watch Hannity....but as far as MSNBC...
have you watched Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann? Keith Olbermann is worse than Rush Limbaugh ever thought about being...and yes, I think Rush is condescending and I don't like the talking down on either side. It obscures any point that might be made. I can't watch Chris Matthews for more than 30 seconds and I have never made it past 1 word with Olbermann. And Chris Matthews is realllyyy bad about talking over his guests to make HIS point. So I guess every network has their Hannity/Matthews/Olbermann et al. But, some people like that condescending stuff and find things funny that I don't...but hey, it takes all kinds to make the world turn, I guess.
Hannity is just one person on the channel...
not the whole channel. Keith Olbermann rants like a loon sometimes, almost to the point of drooling, but as long as he is bashing a conservative people love him. Every channel has their talking over obnoxious commentator. It is all about what Keith thinks, what his opinion is, and rarely is there a point. It could be said about any commentator. Still, if I want to see a Dem and a Repub in a split screen where the commentator says OUT of it and lets them have their say and does not allow them to talk over one another...Fox is my only choice. I have seen Fox cut the mikes on both sides if the pundit would not stop talking over the other. I have NEVER seen anyone cut Olbermann's mike. He does not even try to hide his contempt for anyone who does not share his view. You don't like Hannity, i don't like Olbermann. The difference is...if I want to hear a conservative viewpoint at ALL, Fox is my only choice. That is a fact. And why people are so against letting both sides have their say, and want to tear the hide of Fox in strips because they lean conservative when all the other outlets fall off the slide to the left...what does that say about those people? What kind of people want to silence all opposition? What is happening to this country?
Huckabee show on now, Hannity after that
He's got a new show on FNC and it is very good.  Hannity's America is on afterwards, which looks to be extremely informative.  Whether you like these 2 or not, their info can be fact-checked.
chris coumo up next on hannity am
talk show.
Sean Hannity does something similar. sm
Every Thursday or Friday he does what he calls, "Man in the Street" interview. He has one of his staffers go out in NY and pick random people to talk to him via cell phone. The staffers usually try to get a good cross-section but it seems that most of the ones they get are the late teens and 20 somethings. Anyway...he asked them basic questions such as who was the Sec'y of State. Nobody knew. Half of the people did not even know who the VP was. I was absolutely floored by their abysmal ignorance.

And these are the people who will be voting in 2012 and beyond.
About Hannity, don’t have to watch tonight
I swear, if you miss him 1 day you can tune in next week, the week after or next year and he will repeat word by word by word what he has been talking about. I do not listen of a day except yesterday drove down to my store, about 5 minutes away and then back- he was STILL talking about Rev. Wright. He sounds like a broken record, should give it up, did not work the first time around, not working now.
Hannity's violent revolution..(sm)

This is what's on Hannity's webpage.


http://thepoliticalcarnival.blogspot.com/2009/02/hannitys-america-what-kind-of.html


Isn't this something like....oh.....maybe inciting treason or something?


I really have to start watching this Sean Hannity...
you have me intrigued now.

The 5-paragraph volleys were in response to your 10, 12, 14 paragraph volleys, but you know that. As to the plagiarizing...oh please. I can pull two or three phrases out of those volleys of yours and Google them and will find the almost the same exact phrases on about any leftie blog out there. Gotta admit tho...you are a rank amateur up next to some of those folks. You are the liberal version of Ann Coulter. You must be so proud.

And you still have not answered my question, under ANY name and I have asked it to 3 of your alter egos so far. None of you seem to be willing to answer it.

It just seems odd to me that you feel the need to take on alter egos for the sole purpose of piling on and appearing to support each other...there it is again, that need to feel superior and to be validated, and if no one else will do it, by golly you will validate yourself.

ROFL.
Poor gal-so lonely......don't watch Hannity
you seem to be familiar with both. What is that?
I bet you think Sean Hannity walks on water and
Ann Coulter is the Second Coming.
That's why I can't understand Sean Hannity isn't doing it for charity.
I mean, he said he would!! I used to have so much respect for the guy and now Keith Olbermann is making fun of him.

I mean, it's not like it's torture! Right?
Waste 101- Hannity haters, do not read

Although I'm not a big fan of Hannity, he had a countdown last night. I'd like to know how does landscaping certain hotels, buildings, etc. contribute to jobs? What happened to the infrastructure spending for roads and bridges that was to create jobs...even though those jobs would be temporary, some projects would have given a year or two of work. It still seems like these jobs are "once and done" jobs.


Even Microsoft gets a bridge across a highway so the workers have easier access to their other building across the highway. Why, since he's #2(?) in Forbes, couldn't he pay for it himself?


Hopefully, this list will be on line soon. It's not there yet.


The total for the 101 stimulus spending was $1,234,631,672. The good news is at least we know where some of the stimulus/omnibus money is going.


I saw an ex Hollywood agent talking about this on Hannity and Colmes. sm
He said being a conservative in Hollywood is the mark of death. Most of the stars who are conservative just never mention it, although I did see Kelsey Grammar on H&C and he freely admitted he was a Republican and might even think of running for office.  Like you said, go figure. Still, I doubt seriously the MSM will care about BW. It just isn't newsworthy. I could be wrong.  No biggie.
You wouldn’t waterboard but Hannity is ready for it, for charity and
I know some who are standing in line to get out their check books.
Beck was around, just not on Fox.
He had a radio show and had a show on Headline News in the evening. I don't have time to dig any up, but clips of his Headline News show would be interesting to compare to his recent Fox performances.
Glen Beck is going to go through

each earmark and I think, (sorry my blood is boiling), he's going to name each one who put that earmark in. If not, he is going to break it all down.


I hope you all get to see him again tonignt. He's also on early mornings if you don't see him at 7 EST, 9 EST.


normally i like glenn beck
but he is taking this waaaaay too defensively - i thought that rev lowery was hilarious and "groovy"! and there were plenty of baby boomers who shook their heads and smiled at him as well as obama because we had heard this before. i will be 44 this year, born in 1965, and my mother was born in the first year of the baby boom, 1946. when she and my father divorced in the early 1970s, she could not even rent an apartment because she was not married, nor get a loan because she was not married. we had to move back in with her parents in order to have a roof over our heads because, without a husband, she was a nonentity. but the times were a'changing. and as a young child, i heard often cool things like what lowery said...and bra burning to boot, not that my mother was hip enough to ever do that, but she worked two jobs and went to community college and eventually was able to build us a home (yes, through farmers home administration - thank god for them or we could never have broken through the discrimination against women at the time). through her brave choices (we could have lived with her parents forever - but she wanted her own life) and her choice of friends, black, yellow, red and white - at time when nice white girls who were prom queens and cheerleaders should not be seen with any of them, she showed me that the world is huge and that sometimes we have to laugh at our white selves :-)
I like Glenn Beck. He used to be on CNN
Probably because he was not really for Obama. Anyway, he brought up today that there are sections in the 677 some page stimulus that do not make sense at all. For example, the immigration section states something like: Article 45677 is to follow ACT 6544434 and then to follow 664444 and should be proceed with ACT 6654434 and so on. Glenn Beck said he had his top advisers and lawyer friends try to figure out what does it really mean and guess what? NO ONE KNOWS WHAT IT MEANS.

So there are sections in this stimulus package and we have no idea what it means and some of the parties want this passed quickly? Why? So it will try and fix the economy? The first bailout did nothing?
I like Glenn Beck. He used to be on CNN
Probably because he was not really for Obama. Anyway, he brought up today that there are sections in the 677 some page stimulus that do not make sense at all. For example, the immigration section states something like: Article 45677 is to follow ACT 6544434 and then to follow 664444 and should be proceed with ACT 6654434 and so on. Glenn Beck said he had his top advisers and lawyer friends try to figure out what does it really mean and guess what? NO ONE KNOWS WHAT IT MEANS.

So there are sections in this stimulus package and we have no idea what it means and some of the parties want this passed quickly? Why? So it will try and fix the economy? The first bailout did nothing?

So that is why we are to call our representatives to try and stop this stimulus package so we can basically digest what is really involved. After all, how much money is involved? A LOT! Talk about jumping the gun with a A LOT OF MONEY.
What is it with Glenn Beck?....(sm)

I think this link pretty much sums up Glenn Beck.  Pay close attention to the "Beckisms."  And you guys are clinging to his every word. 


http://www.dickipedia.org/dick.php?title=Glenn_Beck


Well, if she was talking about Beck...(sm)
then she's still wrong.  I do believe this is the guy who said he was tired of the whining of 911 victims and Katrina victims.  Yeah...he has such a big heart.
Nope...that was Beck...(sm)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suc1ZpU2f2I
No she is not confused, Beck has taken up
btw, I don't mean to offend you with the Colbert clip. It just came to mind as an example when I read the thread.
Beck on the view....(sm)

I love the part where they ask him if he checks his facts.....ROFL.


http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/ladies-view-rake-glenn-beck-over-coa


I saw that yesterday and Beck actually
looked like the clown here. He was caught dead-handed with stretching the truth- he did go over to Fox, is that not right? Anyway, he told some big ones on his radio show, they had tape and Barbara and Whoopi both called him on the carpet. Barbara asked him did he not check his facts before throwing them out. He does work for Fox now, correct? I loved when Whoopi talked about that big pile.... Priceless.
Don' know how many of you like Glenn Beck but here's a link to see

About Wal-Mart.


 


http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/18216/


Yeah, and they finally got rid of Beck,
longer Lou lasts on CNN. He is the only one left there who reports with his eyes open.
Beck went to greener pastures.
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Love Glenn Beck
He has such a great way of pointing out the obvious. You do have to wonder why they all keep wanting to raise the taxes on the wealthy when that would include the majority of them - now we know! They don't pay!!!
Another Glenn Beck Video
http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/20816/?ck=1
Wikipedia and Glen Beck bio

Well, we all know Wikipedia is not the best place to go for information. It's also one-sided. The below sentence really popped out at me at Beck's leaving:


"Though, as some have noted, this will leave a gaping hole in CNN's "department of embarrassing conservatives we keep around to help us appear unbiased," insiders expect that other irritable commentators will continue to step up in this area. "


Tell me, now, that CNN is not biased. Glenn Beck can be irritating at times, but he does have some good points.


Take the man whose stepdaughter disappeared 2 years ago in Mexico. He promised the father he and the network (CNN) would follow up on the story until they found out what happened to her. CNN refused to follow up, so that is one reason Beck left. Now he is on Fox and has talked to the father again and this time, he promised again that he and Fox will follow up on his story. He stated he now works for a network that cares for people.


As in every network story on any channel, you either believe everything you hear, or you watch, listen, learn, then take it for what it's worth. I chose, and it's still my right, to listen to all sides and make decisions based on all sides.


My point of the above post was to irony of cigarette taxes paying for children's healthcare. That was it. Federal studies show that taxing cigarettes does not fill the coffers. It has the opposite effect. As cigarette taxes go up, people quit smoking. So there is a deficit in taxes to pay for programs from the get go.


 


Glenn Beck mentioned this
last week on his show. He is having a special show in New York this Friday. He is wanting all the people who care for their country to come together. We are to look at his website and join in on "We Surround Them".

http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/21018/?ck=1

You don't have to watch Glenn Beck...
to know his background. A simple Google search is all that's necessary. Glenn Beck is nothing more than another washed up disc jockey just like Rush Limbaugh.
I am glad Beck moved to Fox.
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Gee, BB, looks like you watch BECK faithfully
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Beck is great! Too bad he left CNN.
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O'reilly

I cant stand to watch O'Reilly, he tries to portray that he knows everything and yet he is just a blow-hard..Someone who professes to know all but knows nothing..


 


I


He was on O'Reilly
last night and he didn't say he wanted the elderly to fend for themselves.  He said that their benefits should be cut back because people are drawing out much more than what they paid in and it is going the bankrupt the whole thing.  I know it doesn't exactly sound pleasant to say but he is right in the fact that some people are getting twice as much as what they paid in and there won't be anything left for those of us paying into the system now.  Yes, the elderly paid their dues but why should they get twice as much what they paid in when the working class who is contributing to it now for when we get older...we WILL have to fend for ourselves because there will be nothing.
Glenn Beck: Does anyone in Washington Pay Taxes?

He's really getting ticked off again.


 


http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/20937/


Glenn Beck's problem?? He is a realist.
He is not hoodwinked by the powers that be.
Glenn Beck is making an impact

and they can't stand it. 


Go Glenn!


Oh, you forgot to call Glenn Beck

fat, too.   How ridiculous. 


Glenn Beck is awesome and extreeeeemely intelligent.


Oh, Glenn Beck is intelligent. It's the people
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