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Bravo, Amanda....

Posted By: globetotter on 2008-07-17
In Reply to: Learning to adapt... - Amanda

Your foresight will pay big dividends down the road. Hopefully you will have time to nurture a second language in the conversational arena as well. This ability can give you much insight into the culture that lays beyond and is brought back into your business dealings. Translation is a job skill in a of itself with which you can access a wider variety of better-paying jobs. Computer translation programs can never replace the one-on-one, face-to-face exchanges that come with direct conversation.
My sister took 4 semesters of college level Spanish and ended up with a scholarship to study in Argetina in the 1970s, where she met her first husband. One good thing can often to lead to others. She divorced years later and remarried to an Iranian. Her ability to adapt through a second and third language has enabled her to thrive in a severely depressed economy. She is living in Tehran, Iran now where she and her husband run a successful flower business, an import export business and an English and Spanish tutoring and translation service. They do substitute teaching in their "spare time!".
This second marriage also blessed her with the birth of a new son at age 45. He is 12 now and is trilingual, fluent and literate in English, Farsi and Spanish. The kid is comfortable and right at home in the US and abroad.
Keep your eye on the prize. You never know what is waiting for you just around the next corner.


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thank you, Amanda. That is some
transcript if anyone bothered to read it. Must have been ASR!
for Amanda: Exactly, here you go.....nm
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Thanks Amanda....(sm)

I actually believe troops in the field get even less info.  If you look at it logically, how many satellite links do you think the US wants in enemy territory?  If they did have internet it would almost have to be via satellite as most infrastructure in the region is now wiped out, and a satellite link can be traced, allowing the enemy to pinpoint positions.  Hopefully our military is smarter than that. 


Also, I have watched several documentaries/commentaries/videos of people involved in the torture of Iraqi and Afghan prisoners.  In every case that I've heard of the people dishing out the torture (our guys) were following orders.  When this came out it was all over every news station and the internet, and yet in not one interview did any of these people say anything about seeing any controversy or publicity about it in any form.  They talked about how they personally had problems with it and what they were told to do, but that seems to be the extent of information they drew on.  What's remarkable about this is that this was not exclusive to Afghanistan or Iraq.  There was the same thing happening at Gitmo, supposedly a secure location.


Exactly, Amanda!
Obama has done nothing that needs to be defended. I think it's the old "Let's turn the attention away from the inept Republican president by slamming the new administration." End of story.
Exactly! Amanda does her research.nm
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sorry, amanda, this should be under your post, not ms...nm
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Amanda....it says that the credit will...
eliminate federal taxes for 10 million low income families. Someone has to make up for that lost revenue. Or are you saying they are really not paying taxes anyway so when he says he is giving them a tax credit he is not, he is lying about it? So which part is lying and which part is true? They were paying taxes and now they are not going to be because of the credit, or they were never paying taxes anyway so it is a credit name only. Please advise.
NIce try, Amanda.

Dear Amanda: 


Your attempts should be applauded, but just take a look at the thread above yours here (about renaming the White House) and really, truly SEE your audience.


Wearing the cloak of "Christianity," they talk about only there being only one perfect man, and he was killed, yet they stir the pot of hatred and lies in a frenzy, leading me to believe  they wouldn't mind at all if another death takes place. 


They take something as benign and American as two parents getting a puppy for their children and try to turn it into something sinister.


Their lives will probably drastically improve under President Obama, but they'll be too full of hate to ever even know it.


You made a valiant attempt, but President Obama will never have a chance with these people, but that's okay.  The good news is that the majority of Americans aren't like this, and they are the ones who voted for someone who may  likely go down in history as one of the best Presidents ever -- if he's given the chance and allowed to live long enough to do so.


Thank you for your honesty, Amanda. sm
I appreciate it.



By the way, my niece's name is Amanda....and I think of her when I see your post! To me, she will always be about 10 years old, but she just turned 20! They grow up fast.
Oh please, Amanda - sometimes you are right on, but this time not
These are not little expenses like "groceries", and these are not expenses entertaining foreign diplomats. These are weekly parties that the taxpayer is paying for. I'm sorry but having big name entertainers and conga lines are not working parties, but of course the crats will say that. These are parties that cost a huge amount of money (that is taxpayers money). These are weekly Wednesday night parties with steak, champaign, etc. You really think they eat things like us common folk eat (hamburgers and hot dogs), please, they wouldn't stoop so low.

What I'm complaining about is the country is in a "world of hurt". People are losing jobs, homes, etc, and while the O and other politicians are saying we have to cut back, they are not, and they are not spending their own money. They are spending tax payers money. They need to lead by example.

And to turn the wh into a party palace is a disgrace.

People, stop drinking the kool-aid and wake up (not you Amanda because you usually have some pretty good insight but this time you are just wrong). The rest of them who defend this I'm afraid are still sleeping.
Well written, I agree with you Amanda
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Thx Amanda - They won't admit (see message)
when their wrong. They keep trying to argue a mute point. I think Stardust is a racist for assuming I'm a white person. I don't know how much clearer you can point something out. It's like talking to a wall. I also don't know how I could be a racist when I voted for him in the primaries. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

Well I'm not going to read anymore of Stardusts posts anymore. Not worth my time since she won't even stand up and admit when she's wrong, and she grasps at anything. Calls me a racist and says I said racist things and then tries to claim it's something I said after she posted that message. Just not worth my time.

Thanks again Amanda for your message. This board sure is infiltrated and its getting more and more sickening to her the attacks on McCain & Palin while giving Obama and Biden a free pass. They attack M/P and then say that the conservatives do all the attacking.

Man-o-man I can't wait for the election to be over.
Amanda is right - it's not all one side - (see message)
And it is all wrong. No matter what you think of anyone common sense tells you that you should not have a person who is still living depicted in this way. I don't care how much dislike you have for them. Amanda had another post with a link of a picture of Obama sitting with "death" behind him. Another truly disgusting "art" creation. Funny how they use the words "art" and "halloween decoration" to cover up an act of hate. I heard a lawyer interviewed last night and she said that you can't hang Obama as a "decoration" because it's considered a hate crime (race, slavery, etc), but there is no such thing as a hate crime against a woman. While I can understand that, I don't agree with it. Try telling that to the family of the "white" lady reporter in Arkansas beaten to death. They said every single bone in her face was broken. Now if that is not a "hate" crime I don't know what it.
An inconvenient truth, Amanda.
You go, girl!
Way to go, Amanda! Great research.n/m
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Famous last words, Amanda.....sm
Remember your own posts in the coming days, when you swore that he was not a socialist.


All of the policies he is about to institute are socialist or marxist. He may try to call them another name, but they are still socialistic programs, and marxist.


It's all laid out, in front of your eyes....but you can't see it
Amanda has really summed up most of our lives and

it is scary.  I wonder how many transcription companies will close their doors within the next year.  The top 3 transcription companies may be all that are left before long.


Well, I'll agree with you on that, Amanda.
This bail-out stuff should have stopped before it started.  After the Wall Street bail-out has the news gotten any better?  No.  It is worse on a daily basis.  It will be the same if the auto industry is bailed out.  I say no bail outs.  For those of us who make bad decisions we're left to suffer the consequences.  Let the businesses do the same.  First Wall Street, then auto industry, who's next?  It won't be Joe the (honest)  Plumber, that's for sure.
Thank you Amanda..besides, I think that if most parents could send their
child to private schools..and he and his wife are PAYING for it, so what is the problem??
Good point, Amanda. sm

If you had really listened closely to Prez Obama's speech earlier, he clearly stated the government is willing to give them a boost up in order to stabilize them and give them a chance to revamp their manufacturing in order to be competative with the global car manufacturers.  I am so glad to hear that one of the plants that will be shut down is Hummer.  We don't need gas guzzlers like that on the road.  They serve no purpose other than to satisfy the egomaniacs who need a huge obnoxious vehicle in order for them to feel superior.  We are not all going to be driving Smart cars.  For pete's sake, be realistic.  There is a solid purpose to keep manufacturing trucks and SUVs, and they can be made more energy efficient.  We desperately need a new mindset in this country, one that insists on less consumption, more cost effectiveness with an eye to achieving freedom from foreign oil.  In other words, we need to adapt a new attitude of learning to live without all the disgusting excess that goes on in this country.  People need to wake up and reprioritize what is really important, which is not more, more, more.  We can be the leaders in the world and set an example to everyone else that our values are more important than the trappings that we have prostituted ourselves for decades.  This is not a bad thing!


"'The truth is that the president is just doing with GM what we, the people elected him to do: manage America’s decline and do it gently, painlessly, without seeming to abandon the old tropes of American Greatness."


Amanda, these people just got to have something to whine about sm

They have very short memories I reckon.  They forgot that Bush spent one-third of his presidency at his "ranch".  I guess it was free for him to do all that flying back and forth.  And then there was the 40 million dollars he spent on his SECOND inagural party, just two months after the devastating tsunami that hit Indonesia.  Imagine how far even HALF of that 40 million dollars could have gone toward that effort!!


Yep, a desparate bunch grasping at some pretty flimsy straws!!


Sorry Amanda you are wrong - see message
Like the message below this said, they are starting to socialize our health system. They want the government to control it. I've watched many economist speak about this, along with a lot of politicians (not ones that are in DC, but individual ones from individual states) and they are saying the same thing. We cannot socialize our health care.

You will not have a choice as to what doctor you can go to, what treatment you'll be able to get or medication. The government will be in charge of that. They will decide what you will and will not get.

I think you probably know by now that Obama says one thing and does another. He will get up and give a good speech, but as soon as he is done speaking he does the opposite of what he says he will or will not do. Kind of like when he was in another country and said our dollar was strong as the dollar was tanking and other country leaders were snickering and laughing at him. Funny though cos Obama could say the sky is green and people would believe him and defend him for it.

We listened to someone talk (forget who it was right now), but they knew someone in Canada who needed a procedure and it was going to be a four month waiting period. They came to the US and had the procedure done the same or next day. I said to DH if they have their way and socialize our health care system I think Obama and other politicians who push this through should be told that they (or a family member of theirs) will have to wait 4 months for an MRI or other procedure to be done. See how they like it.

It's just a very very sad time for us all to see our country being deteriorated. I am understanding how Cuba and other socialist countries got that way. Sort of little by little then before you know it it's too late. It's the same way our landlords when we lived in Germany told us what happened to them leading up to WWII. It's just awful to see our country going the same way. They were promised everything and then look what happened to them. And history is repeating itself here in America.

Just very sad.
Is an old issue that needs to be resolved & answer to Amanda
I would not go by anything the Annenberg foundation puts out and FactCheck is not a reliable source.

To Amanda, there are two kinds of certificates. I have the one like you do where there is no information but name, date of birth and a raised seal, but there is another kind of certificate called the "vault" certificate that is filed by the hospital to the state. In the medical records department we type in all the pertinent info (name, weight, length, time of birth, parents names, etc). That is the one we send in for the official record. That is the one they are requesting and the one he refuses to submit. This is the one I had to apply for to verify I was who I was before I could join the Army.

Ah, Neurnberg Germany. That brings back memories. I was stationed in Katterbach/Ansback and went to Neurnberg almost every weekend. Neurnberg is also where all the military wifes went to have their babies and your daughter is American citizen because she was born to US Citizens AND American bases are considered US soil. I have another friend who had her baby in Germany and her husband was military but she chose to have her baby in a Germany Hospital and her baby is a German citizen. Until they apply for him to become a US Citizen he remains a German citizen. Seeing as Obama was born in Kenya that is not US Territory, and he cannot produce his vault certificate because he doesn't have one.

On his website (and approved by the Annenberg Foundation) is simply not the actual birth certificate. There is no raised seal on it and it is very easy to recreate this form. Anyone can get access to the forms and fill in whatever information they want to. Obama's campaign did have a form on his site before that kept being taken down and altered and posted back up on the site that could clearly be seen was a copy of his sisters certificate. It has since been taking down.

Additionally maybe Obama thought he might run for Prime Minister in Canada because he also has a Canadian birth certificate.

Life sure is strange. Meanwhile I'll sit back and watch all this come tumbling down.
Amanda - I stand corrected - thank you - see message
When I'm wrong I'll admit it and this time I'm wrong. That is in such bad taste.

If parents want to dress their kids in political figures that's one thing (though I think the kids would rather be ghosts, witches, princesses, etc) but to try and make a political statement and use the excuse that its Halloween and in good fun is just in bad taste (IMO). I find it equally offensive no matter who it is.

I think its bad taste and think everyone should take down everything. I find it just as disgusting as I found the remark Hillary said about staying in because an assassination could happen. When you talk about death of people that just gets to me.

So Amanda thank you, I do stand corrected and am humbled. There are McCain supporters who do the same as Obama supporters.

What happened to decency in America and leave the halloween costumes to kids and people going to parties.
That's why they call him Hidin Biden (sm) and to Amanda
Anytime anyone leaks out what their plans really are they hide them away.

Amanda, - If your really believe that Obama "will be happy to pay more taxes", and that he's going to do everything to help you while taxing those nasty rich white republicans, then I guess you will also believe that Richardson "mispoke" himself. The truth is coming out but why aren't the dems seeing it. They say it themselves out of their own mouths and you still won't believe it.
Amanda, you've wasted your breath. s/m
There is not a rational thought in any of these people's heads.  They don't care about hope or the possibility of change for the better.  The ironic thing about this is that if and when Jesus Christ were to return, these kind of people would be the ones who would crucify him all over again because of the narrow-minded prejudice that seems to feed them.  More's the pity.
Amanda, sad to say, your're wasting your breath.

There is just no getting through to these narrow-minded people.  They don't want to give him a chance, because their tiny brains have been filled with the BS that has been fed to them by the publicity-seeking egomaniacs that they worship (Lamebaugh, Coultergeist, Beck who I think is a closet Nazi, O'Reilly).  Dittoheads -- what a great name for them -- they are incapable of having an original thought of their own.  One poster on here has the nerve to say "he has had his chance".  Give me a break -- that shows nothing but ignorance.  The man has been in office less than 3 months!! 


You cannot have a reasonable conversation with these types of people.  Thank you for trying, though.  You had to know you would get flamed on this one, just as I'm sure I will.  C'est LA vie.


Amanda's been wife of a solder, and then mother to

It *seems* to her the veteran showed disrespect to the flag, but I doubt she can come up with a concrete alternative way for him to have removed that flag, managed it single-handed, while being able to defend himself. 


I think when our embassies have been under attack, the folks who took down those flags were probably in as much of a hurry, and I doubt they did anything differently. 


Good analogy, by the way, about the grandfather.  First you protect the kid, then you dust him off and see whether he's hurt. 


As to stomping on the Mexican flag, no, I would not have.  The store owners may have flown the two flags as they did out of ignorance, not to show deliberate disrespect.  They may not have bothered to familiarize themselves with the law.  They may not even speak English, but have now received a valuable lesson, which I hope someone will explain to them.  If they are wise, they will learn from it.  If not, they will get together several hundred of their closest friends, petition Obama, march, riot, demand ''equality'' now, and be a general pain in the patootie.  I would love to see the followup on this....


Bravo!!!!

Your post was wonderful, articulate and right on target.


They haven't been able to bait people on their own board recently and hurl their venom, but they need their "fix," so they come here instead and try to start trouble.  I agree that you shouldn't respond to them any more.  Why give them what they want?


 


Bravo!

Thank you for such an eloquent post.


Have you ever noticed the disconnect between those who are in favor of Bush?  The richest of the rich and those who are very highly educated and then those who aren't so rich and educated, with all the rest of us in the middle.  The richest of the rich don't have to worry about Roe because if it's gone, they can afford to go to another part of the world. 


And our country absolutely does not deserve the autocratic theocratic government that has been forced upon us.  One of the wonderful things about America is diversity of religious beliefs. What really frightens me about all this is that the war on terror is quickly becoming a "Christian versus Muslim" war.  Tom Tancredo from Colorado recently suggested boming mosques.  If we choose to turn this into a religious war, we are diminishing the importance of it and diminishing our country as a whole, regardless of faith, to bond together and be united against the war on terror.


As far as the shoe being on the other foot, from what I've personally witnessed by some of these people, they feel the shoe has been on the other foot for years, that they've been ignored, and now is their turn to take control.  They typically blame minorities and women for taking all the "men's jobs," blame the "liberal mainstream media" for virtually everything, and are suddenly feeling empowered after they felt beaten down over past years of tolerance and reasonableness, when they couldn't impose their prejudices and anger and religion on the rest of the country.  It's as if a smoldering volcano has erupted, and they are spewing out all the negative things that have been keeping inside in all these years past when fairness prevailed in this country.  They don't want to be just one of many religions in this country.  They want to be the only one that counts, the one that they can write laws to revolve around.


They want to end Roe.  They are against any contraception products that go against "the will of God."  They want to control what happens in your home, in your family, in your bedroom.  They want to control what you see on television.  They want to control who you love, whether or not it's legal for you to love who you love.  They want to take science backwards in the name of "God" and prevent stem cell research that might save the lives of their parents, sisters, brothers, and/or children who are already here. They holler and scream at and actually kill those who respect a woman's right to choose. They put more value on a petrie dish full of inanimate cells than they do on people who are already born, but you never hear them even whimper a word of disdain when children in our country are being molested and murdered on what seems like a weekly basis during this year alone. They want to control when you're born and when and how you die.


In short, they want to control not just the lives but the very SOULS of every single person in this country, and they detest anyone who disagrees with them.


You're right: 51% is no mandate, and after the 2000 selection, there are still some who aren't sure that Bush actually won in 2004.  They don't even realize that Bush is really on the side of the rich and not on their side.  They continue to defend and justify every action of Bush and those in his administration, whether it's actually something that defendable or justifiable or not –- such as entering into a bogus war based on lies and/or exposing the identity of a CIA agent working on WMD (in a time of war), both done purely for personal reasons and never really caring what's best for this country.


They sqawk about a lack of morals in this country, yet they don't think it's immoral for Bush to exploit the tragedy of 9/11 in order to scare the American public into agreeing to a war that Bush came into office with the intention of waging, long before 9/11 happened.  He lied to Congress, and he lied to the American people.  That's about the most immoral thing I've ever seen a president do. I never thought a President could actually make Nixon look GOOD, but Bush has done that 1,000 times over.


IMHO, we're heading down a very dangerous road in this country, and I hope America wakes up before it's too late.


Bravo!

One thing that wasn't mentioned was the vile increase in gas prices, which will also result in much higher heating costs this winter for many people.  That's an increased cost experienced by most Americans, which also effectively cuts their net income.  The rich, who keep getting richer under Bush, will easily be able to absorb that cost.  As usual, it's the poor and dwindling middle class who will suffer.


I wonder how many Bushies are now living near or at the poverty level and don't even realize it, as they continue to beat the Bush drum louder and louder.


Bravo
I do not mind in the least. I got a bit carried away, but if anyone can send me over the the top, it is Michael Moore. Sigh. lol.
Bravo! I second that!
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braVO.
well said.
Bravo!

Excellent post.   I couldn't agree with you more.


I'm about to leave the computer but am glad I saw your post before I left. 


I hope you have a wonderful day. 


Bravo.
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Here HERE!! Bravo!
and for her fortitude in the face of screeching hysteria, every single day. Way more than I can deal with, that's for sure.
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BRAVO!

Great post!!!  These are exactly the same reasons I voted for him.


When I look back on how Obama ran his campaign versus how John "Chicken-With-Its-Head-Cut-Off" McCain ran his, there was no question in my mind that if Obama can run the country only 1/100th as well as he ran his campaign, then there is great hope for this wonderful country.


Bravo
Articulate and intelligent. Something this board is sadly lacking.

Bravo! sm
You have said everything that I have been trying to say for weeks!!!  There is much, MUCH more to this than meets the eye, especially the eye of those who refuse to see what is going on. 

Are you SURE you wouldn't do well as a writer? 
Bravo!
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Bravo! Very well said.
I couldn't agree more, and I hope Americans can come together once again. 
Bravo
& therein lies the flawed logic. If they really want to say that abortion is 100% wrong 100% of the time, then they should offer examples from the entire cross-section of humanity. Wouldn't go over nearly as well, I would imagine. The fact that they are entirely selective about their choice of what to present as justification for their belief system is the best evidence for the fact that what they are advertising is in the end Just Someone's Humble Opinion. To which I say, Thanks but No Thanks.

Bravo!
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Bravo! Bravo!!..I could not have said it better!...nm
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BRAVO!!

Great post, Cyndiee!  What Bush did for 8 years did not work.  Giving more and more to the rich only created a greedy (now ANGRY), very small group of people who became greedier and greedier, as they stole from those with less money than they (as evidenced by 401Ks now being "201Ks").


There was no "trickle-down" with these people, just an unsatiable appetite for more, more, more.


At least Obama is TRYING to address the problem of offshoring/outsourcing work (for example), and he acknowledges the fact that the middle class have progressively become more poor under the Bush administration, as the rich progressively became richer.


I saw on the news last night that Bernie Madoff (for example) feels he should be able to keep his plush penthouse apartment (including maids' quarters) and some of his millions because he transferred ownership of those items to his wife.  (Again, check your 401Ks and tell me how warm and fuzzy that makes you feel.)


This is big-time class warfare going on in this country, where the majority of us are struggling and just the top 5% are thriving.  Obama sees this.  He's TRYING to fix a situation that no human being has ever encountered on this earth in history.  This isn't just an "American depression;" it's global, and (again, referring back to the documentary "House of Cards"), most of it was caused by the UNITED STATES and the greed of our richest citizens.  It's clear that economists can't even agree on a course to fix it, but continuing to make the rich even richer didn't work for eight years under Bush, and it won't work under Obama.  So Obama is trying to do something new and "spectacular," already fully taking the blame if his plan doesn't work (something Bush never did).


I believe he is deserving of the CHANCE to make it work.  The people who voted for him are willing to give him that chance.  The whole country was forced to give Bush a "chance," and all we got was lies, arrogance, a bogus war, debt and the decline of this country.


Time for a new attitude and a new plan.


Please just give Obama a CHANCE!!!


Bravo!!!!
I couldn't have said it better myself.  I feel exactly the same way.
Bravo Indeed!
I am very proud of what President Obama did.

The Obama bashers are really eating crow this morning. They HATE the fact that President Obama is doing GOOD for this country.
braVO!!
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