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Colin Powell....closet democrat...no surprise there...nm

Posted By: nm on 2008-10-19
In Reply to: Colon Powell endorses Barak Obama. nm - oldtimer




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same with Colin Powell

It is easy to see that he is heart-sick that his years of service to our nation were in vain because he was pressured into making those untrue statements to Congress.  It is big, sick, industrial machine ruining lives everywhere it plants its massive cloven hoof.


 


what about Colin Powell as VP?
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Come to think of it, Colin Powell might be the
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Was that before or after General Colin Powell
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I don't look to Colin Powell as my "leader"
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And let us not forget....Colin Powell....
believed that same "bad" intelligence and went before the UN to sell it to the world. Surely they do not consider Colin Powell an imbicele...the same Colin Powell who endorsed Barack Obama? Surely NOT. Sighhhhh. So did the senate foreign relations committee, lots of Democrats. Our VP elect also voted for the war resolution. But that is conveniently forgotten in the rip Bush apart effort. These same people who preach unity. Sighhhh.
Colin Powell would get voted in in a heartbeat if he ran.
He would have democratic and republican support.

I wish he would run too!
IMHO Colin Powell isn't a puppet.

Colin Powell interview on Obama
Beautifully stated. See link.
I doubt Colin Powell would ever speak out against this admin.
It's not in his nature to be a whistle blower.

I will say though I have ALWAYS admired him, before he joined the Bush admin. I had great respect for him; in fact, when I learned that he was a republican I was surprised. I felt we had a lot in common politically. While I am a democrat, I consider myself an independent thinker and do not always vote a straight democratic ticket.

I still had respect for him though as sec of state in Bush's admin. It did turn my stomach though when he made the case for this war, I felt he was either being lied to and was falling for it or felt he had to support it because of his political affiliation.

If you've ever heard him speak publically, he's very down to earth and nonpolitical in his nature. Much to be admired still in this man.
What part of "I am republican first and foremost" (Colin Powell)
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What makes you think Colin Powell would want to be on the McCain ticket?
Colin Powell decided not to run for President of the United States several years ago. Why on earth would he accept an offer to run for Vice President on the McCain ticket? In addition, Powell has adamantly denounced the despicable smear tactics used by the McCain campaign recently.

I find it laughable how quickly the right-wing wackos turn against anyone who makes an educated decision to support Obama.
I prefer watching re-runs of Colin Powell's
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Here we have a fringe flock constituent accusing Colin Powell
with a straight face and seriously expecting us to buy into this psycho-babble. The only people you are scaring with this trash is each other.
I agree. This is the exact reason why Colin Powell wouldn't run..sm
He didn't want his privacy or his entire family's personal life to be dug up and exploited by the media. He got a lot of respect from me when he chose to protect what was the most important to him...family.
Thank you outside the closet
I have never found so many of her posts offensive. I've really got to turn this board off. You are correct though, she is a closet case. So much that I just stopped reading her posts altogether.

That's all I'm trying to get across we don't need her acceptance. We are finally able to marry whom we want and live our lives the way we want and be able to care for our partners in sickness and in health just like everyone else does. For once the states are coming to their senses. It finally happened when they did away with school segregation, when blacks could ride anywhere they wanted on a bus, could drink from any water fountain they chose, and now we can finally live the lives we want to live and have it "legal".

I'm turning the board off for now to get some work done, and not have a stroke trying to explain common sense and decency towards human kind.
Come on out of that closet!
You know you want to!
Yup, Taiga has come out of the closet

Where did I ever say I don't post under other monikers?  


Taiga is the name I have used on the Medquist board for just about as long as this board has been in existence.  I had always thought it wise to keep a political persona separate from a work persona but with all these accusations of fraud and "untruthfulness" I will no longer be using Teddy and will stick to Taiga from now on with any posting I do on the MTStars board. 


Actually my original moniker on the political board, going back several years, even back to when both libs and cons were put together under one grouping was "Observer."  When you began posting as "Observer" I switched to Teddy for obvious reasons.  So in the end, there really are more than one of us elitist, snobbish jerks out there!!


Maybe Cheney is a closet dem
He knows many people hate him, including me. He could be trying to lose McC's election since McC spoke out against Bush and Cheney.
As long as you do it in the closet & not
make it a public/legal issue, then whatever you want to call it is fine. I don't care what you do behind closed doors, but when your perversion is flaunted in public in front of my children or made to be a national legal issue, then I have a problem with it. I hope the states stupid enough to make it legal have sense enough to reverse their decision.
Keep it in the closet where it belongs? (sm)

You know, the same could be said about religion --- which is just another "choice."  As in keep your sermons to yourself.  Maybe I don't want my children exposed to fanatics who believe in a nonexistent being, but you guys just keep on preaching.  The ironic thing about your post is that religion itself is a choice.  It is a choice to believe.  So, you think everyone else should abide by what you choose to believe -- as opposed to how they choose to live.  Quite a double standard you have there. 


 


Hillary C. , closet Republican..sm

I am not enthralled with her as well.  I see her as someone who straddles both sides of the fence, or as you aptly put it, a closet Republican. I had a high opinion of her, but it seemed to me that when Bush's popularity was at an all time high she bent with the wind to include her vote on Iraq. Iraq had been so closely monitored for so many years and under such scrutity there was no way Iraq had any undetected weapons of mass destruction.  That woman was in the White House for 8 years and had to know that was not the case, yet she went right along with it as it was the politically popular thing to do at the time.  I lost my respect for her after that. The exciting thing is that there are so many candidates out there now. I also like Chris Dodd, but I don't think he has too much of a chance. Anyway the debates will be coming and the voters will have a good variety of candidates to listen to and field out.


Obama is a socialist and probably a closet...sm
communist, masquerading as the most liberal democrat in the Senate.

Democrats have this overwhelming desire to want to be taken care of from cradle to grave, and their leaders philosophy of, "let me take care of you forever" mentality is so scary. Not to mention the constant class envy and warfare on those that are successful in life.

Complete and total socialism, and communism.....Doesn't work, never has worked, won't work ever.




Oh yeah, and he and Michelle are racist. Certain comments, past and present, in or out of context, are racist and inflammatory..... let's call a spade, a spade, shall we?

And a spade? that's a playing card, not a black man in this context.

I'm also sick and tired of the so called political correctness in this country. If Obama can call McCain and "old white man" -- why the heck can't McCain call Obama a "young, black man."


Geez, is it November yet...please?


Flame on, I don't care anymore, and I'm out of here.
I sure hope so...this closet is a little scary, too!
Bang on the pipes 3 times when the coast is clear, and I'll come out.
Nah, just cleaning out my closet and getting it out of my system.
Deleting old links, etc.  It's going to be a long four years.  I'm sure I'll have more to criticize, but for now I feel like taking a deep cleansing breath and bracing myself.
I think perhaps you are a closet republican because that is quite the conspiracy theory.
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It probably bothered her because she is a closet Nat'l Enquirer reader?
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Colin, not Colon...you must be an MT! Thanks for the laugh..nm!

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Colin said he was given wrong info IT WAS ABOUT OIL sm
You really have to do some research. Absolutely no WMD. Even Palin admitted it's about nation building and energy resources. Dead young people for oil. What a sorry shame. Shame on you republicans!!!
!!!

I saw this last year. It was great. I have always liked Colin, even though I disagreed w/him...sm
I do understand why he left his position. It takes a real con to hold his head high when they know they are lying to you with a straight face.
Powell
I agree. I think he'd win by a landslide, and America would finally have a President with some dignity.  Oh, to dream!! 
Powell

He was never anything but a Dem in my book.  Notice that it was that nasty, ole' George Bush who was the first prez to put a black into such a high level in his cabinet.  And also Condi Rice...  But Bush is way too lib for me, anyway.  But he's right on things I consider important.


I find it amazing that the Dems will defend their party no matter what the scandal, but the Republicans don't.  Rmemeber Mark Foley?  Gone!  His replacement:  3rd mistress, I believe?  How about Ted Stevens?  He needs to GO, and is Republican.  Clinton cheating on Hillary all the time?  I wouldn't condone that from any of them. 


That's my point, and it's the truth.  The politicians work for US, remember?


The show and Powell

I thought the show was wonderful and illustrated very clearly how bits and pieces of intelligence were selected and manipulated and turned into something they weren't.  (They referred to it as a "Chinese menu" that the administration used to pick and choose from.)


I taped this show and watched it a couple times.  As far as Powell is concerned, it did show how Powell's relationship with George Tenet began to disintegrate.


It further showed how Tenet was, at Bush's father's urging, kept as CIA director when Dubya took office, and all the events leading to his resignation.  He was one of Dubya's sacrifical lambs.  I guess Bush thought giving him the Medal of Freedom made up for that.


Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, Powell's chief of staff, said that Powell told him, "I wonder how we'll all feel if we put half a million troops into Iraq and march from one corner of the country to the other and find nothing."


Powell said, "I will forever be known as the one who made the case. I have to live with that."  (That made me feel really bad for Powell, who I have always trusted and considered to be an honest, ethical man.  His association with Bush really dragged him down, and his statement about having to live with that just tells me that he's still an honest, ethical man, the kind of man who had a spectacular military career, actually had the guts to go fight in wars himself, someone who truly IS Presidential material, someone who doesn't belong in an underhanded, lying, foolish administration like Bush's.)


The show also pointed out how if you are someone who works for this president and you discover something not right or in alignment with his "plans," if you tell him, you'd better be prepared to resign or be fired. 


This show clearly illustrated how Bush wanted to go to war with Iraq, and all he needed was a reason, even if he had to invent a fictional one.


Again, I thought it was an excellent show, and if you ever have the opportunity to watch it or obtain a transcript of it, I would highly recommend it.


I always admired Powell
There are some people you admire even if their politics are different and it's because they appear to have integrity.  That's what the frothing right-winger(s) on this board don't understand.  It's more about integrity than political affiliation for some of us.  And that's why so many folks don't care for Bush - he had a life-long history of lacking integrity and being publicly mean and petty at times. 
You got that right. Colon Powell could have
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If he had chosen Powell...
all we would be hearing is about how Powell went to the UN and "lied" about the "faulty intelligence" that took us into Iraq. Powell has said that no one lied and it was indeed faulty intelligence and he believed it too...and the same people who are here lauding Powell since he endorsed Obama probably are the same ones who said Bush lied men died. Opinions are based totally on what side of the political fence someone is presently standing on. LOL. Sigh.
Here's a few more republicans besides Powell
1. William Buckley, III
2. Susan Eisenhower
3. Julie Nixon Eisenhower
4. US Senator Lincoln Chaffee (R-Rhode Island)
5. Former Rep Jim Leach (R-Iowa)
6. Former Bush White House intelligence advisor Rita E. Hauser
7. Governor Linwood Holton (R-Virginia)
8. Former LA Mayor Richard Riordan (R)
9. Bill Ruckelshaus, appointed first chief of the EPA in 1970 by President Nixon, appointed acting director of the FBI in 1973 and later named deputy U.S. attorney general. He resigned rather than obey an order from Nixon to fire the Watergate special prosecutor, Archibald Cox. In 1983, Ruckelshaus was appointed interim director of the EPA by President Reagan.
10. Douglas Kmiec, co-chairman of Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign’s Committee for the Courts and the Constitution; worked in the Reagan Justice Department.
11. Mayor Ed Koch of New York, formerally endorsed Rudy Giuliani and Michael Bloomberg for Mayor, AL D’Amato for U.S. Senate, George Pataki for Governor, and, in 2004, George W. Bush for President of the United States.
12. Retired four-star Air Force General Merrill “Tony” McPeak, served in the Air Force for 35 years. Former member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, served as co-chairman of Oregon Veterans for Bush something he would later call an enormous mistake.
13. Donald Capoccia Vice Chair, US Commission of Fine Arts
14. Jackson M. Andrews, Republican Counsel to the U.S. Senate. Republican nominee, U.S. Senate from Kentucky.
15. John Martin, Founder of RepublicansForObama.org
16. Richard J. Schwartz, Chairman, New York State Council on the Arts
17. Todd Garrett, retired Senior VP and CIO of the Procter & Gamble Company
18. Richard B. Stewart, Assistant Attorney General for Environment and Natural Resources
19. Jim Whitaker, Fairbanks, Alaska Mayor
20. Ambassador Thomas Graham Jr., Executive Chairman of Thorium Power Ltd.

Collin Powell........sm
has been hoodwinked, just like so much of America who has put on the blinders when Obama is the subject for discussion. I don't believe that Powell is necessarily a fool, but I do believe he has been fooled.


If it was McCain and Col. Powell
I would have probably voted for Powell. If it was McCain and Rice, I probably would have voted for Rice. But Obama? WHO IS HE, REALLY! I know nothing about him. I do not trust him at all, ESPECIALLY since now our new treasury guy is in office. Soooo, can I use Turbo tax and kinda of fudge my taxes and not pay for some things and then state, "Oh, I am sorry, I guess I do not know how to use Turbo Tax." You know it and I know it that I would be thrown in jail. But this? A guy who is now running our treasury department? There are higher ups now, newscasters, Jim Cramer on Mad Money and so many others who are not pleased with the new treasury guy let alone Obama's stimulus package. I even heard almost half the Democrats, are not to thrilled with his stimulus package.

Nope, DO NOT trust our new president at all. I wish we could have had future presidents take a mental exam. Sorry, I really, REALLY wanted our new president to the best for this country. We are all in the same boat, but I choose not to sink in the same boat.
If McCain had chosen Powell for VP...sm
the race would be a LOT closer right now. Stupid choice John.
You must be thrilled that C. Powell has relegated SP's SNL flop
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Exactly. The real Obama himself. I thought Powell
was to be picked for something by Obama since Powell endorsed Obama.  Waiting to see where Oprah fits in this too.  Already picking shady characters for his team and more liberals.  Partisanship, my ....
No surprise.

Two Democrats today commented on leftists like you and several others on this board.  I sure do agree with them.


Mike Kinsley, lifelong Democrat, on Pelosi’s pathetic platform:



For national security in general, the Democrats’ plan is so according-to-type that you cringe with embarrassment: It’s mostly about new cash benefits for veterans. Regarding Iraq specifically, the Democrats’ plan has two parts. First, they want Iraqis to “assum[e] primary responsibility for securing and governing their country.” Then they want “responsible redeployment” (great euphemism) of American forces.


Older readers may recognize this formula. It’s Vietnamization—the Nixon-Kissinger plan for extracting us from a previous mistake. But Vietnamization was not a plan for victory. It was a plan for what was called “peace with honor” and is now known as “defeat.”


Maybe “A New Direction for America” is just a campaign document—although it seems to have had no effect at all on the campaign. My fear is that the House Democrats may try to use it as a basis for governing.


Orson Scott Card, lifelong Democrat, on the only issue that matters in this election:



I say this as a Democrat, for whom the Republican domination of government threatens many values that I hold to be important to America’s role as a light among nations.


But there are no values that matter to me that will not be gravely endangered if we lose this war. And since the Democratic Party seems hellbent on losing it — and in the most damaging possible way — I have no choice but to advocate that my party be kept from getting its hands on the reins of national power, until it proves itself once again to be capable of recognizing our core national interests instead of its own temporary partisan advantages.


To all intents and purposes, when the Democratic Party jettisoned Joseph Lieberman over the issue of his support of this war, they kicked me out as well. The party of Harry Truman and Daniel Patrick Moynihan — the party I joined back in the 1970s — is dead. Of suicide.


This may come as a surprise to you, but...
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Why should this surprise you? Now he is saying
that they need to have more regulation, after wanting to de-regulate years ago.
No surprise here...(sm)
I think I said a couple days ago they wouldn't be happy with the result and that it would just turn into a larger *conspiracy.*  Thanks for not disappointing.  LOL
no be surprise
he admits to being a heavy drinker, dating strippers, etc.  He has only donned this moral costume with the church talk and happy marriage schitch since he has had to go far right to get conservative support this election cycle.  Before he was defeated by Bush, he was more left-central.  Now is fair right. 
Big surprise, huh?

With all that lynch mob mentality going on, people are waking up to the real deal.  Even a lot of very prominent pubs are turning away, advising JM to dump that noose around his neck because she is dragging him down.  After all, he did create the monster.  I say, what goes around . . .


No surprise there....
he is a socialist.
This may come as a surprise to you,
are not one monolithic group of people who share the same literal read of the Quran as you would have us believe. Substitute the word Jihadist for Muslim in your statement and then we might have something to talk about. I will not put myself in the position to defend the teachings of a Holy Book that is read, interpreted and elaborated in thousands of different ways by 1.5 billion people who are members of the world's second largest religion. My issue here is not whether or not minority sects within that religion are terrorist...the same way that I see fanatical Christians, by the way (and before you go there, I am Christian). My issue is the ignorant, dangerous rhetoric that would paint a huge majority of humble, spiritual, religious people of faith of any religion in one broad stroke that would leave us believing they they are all out to "get us."
No surprise there.
With the kind of narrow-minded thinking and myopic world view you hav expressed in your posts, of course you can't envision anything except your own stupidity.