Commentary: Voting against Obama doesn't make you a racist...sm
Posted By: ms on 2008-10-09
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Doesn't make you a racist, just misinformed.
I grew up in the 60s when racial tensions were extremely high, and we knew what was racist and what was not racist, and this cartoon is definitely racist. You really don't want to go back to that horrible time and place, so if we can inform others to show just a little bit of compassion and/or respect to others, it will go a long way to soothe the underlying tensions that still exist.
Voting for McCain doesn't make you a republican
http://www.politicalfriendster.com/showPerson.php?id=2805&name=Bush-Family-Bankrupt-Companies
I just hope Obama doesn't make use of them...
for political dissidents. You can't tell me that Congress, including Mr. Obama, do not know they exist. Come on now.
Many repubs voting for Obama in my experience..OR NOT VOTING ..only
only a few stragglers left, like the 26 percent who don't hate Bush.
Most people voting for Obama are voting on emotion...sm
You may be the exception.
All that matters is hope and change. At what cost, my friend, at what cost, will your hope and change come at.
He will try to change the very foundation of this country, the constitution, and our very way of life.
If I wanted that, I'd move back to Russia where some of my ancestors came from.
I can recognize socialism and Marxism, even if half the country cannot.
They only care for hope. And change.
Maybe it is to an ignorant, uneducated CON racist who doesn't know any better.
Educate yourself.
http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.pperl?date=19970115
What is the origin of the expression call a spade a spade? Is this a politically correct expression?
Let's get two things straight here: first, the expression to call a spade a spade is thousands of years old and etymologically has nothing whatsoever to do with any racial sentiment. The second is that in spite of this, some people think it is a racial statement, and therefore it should be treated with some caution.
To call a spade a spade, which means, ironically for this discussion, 'to speak plainly and bluntly; to speak without euphemisms', is first found in Ancient Greece. The exact origin is uncertain; the playwright Menander, in a fragment, said I call a fig a fig, a spade a spade, but Lucian attributes the phrase to Aristophanes. Later, Plutarch notes that The Macedonians are a rude and clownish people who call a spade a spade. (It is worth noting that the Greek word translated as spade seems actually to mean something like bowl or trough; the spade may be based on a Renaissance mistranslation. In this case the original expression was to call a bowl a bowl, and thus the spade expression is only 500, rather than 2,500, years old.)
After it first appeared in English in the sixteenth century, the saying became quite common, and was used in various forms and allusions. My favorite English example:
Doesn't burst my bubble, I'm not voting for O anyway. nm
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not voting is wimpy and will make absolutely
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The voting machines is a must to make voters confident their votes are counting...sm
But the Democrat party needs to delineate what separates them from the republican party as terms of what direction they will take the country. That is definitely uncertain. The chances of them getting their voters out to the polls will be better, I think.
doesn't make me look bad
duh
not it's not, but that doesn't make it right.
It is possible that change could go both ways.
Doesn't make it right. nm
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It doesn't make it right but
obviously it shows that in that instance Obama agreed with Bush or he wouldn't have voted for it. Now Obama ridicules Bush for doing such a sucky job and saying we shouldn't repeat things that didn't work and now we have this stimulus package? He says Bush doubled the deficit and part of the deficit added was the bailout which Obama voted for. So shouldn't he be held accountable for adding to the deficit during Bush's term since he voted for it? These double standards by you O worshipers just kills me.
Doesn't make it right.......... sm
Have you ever noticed that certain behaviors have a stigma attached to them by society?
Have you never wondered why homosexuals stayed in the closet for the most part even 30 or 40 years ago?
Have you ever wondered why, if there is nothing whatsoever wrong with homosexuality, so many people choose to hide that part of their lives from their families and friends for fear of disapproval?
The answer to all of the above questions is because homosexual behavior is not natural and considered deviant behavior. Before you call me homophobic, let me tell you that I have 2 gay cousins, 1 on each side of my family, and I love them dearly but I do not approve of their sexual preference.
Still doesn't make it right that
they have no clue where the money is.
That's nice but it doesn't make any
Bush has promised to veto the bill, so this country will be stuck in backwards mode until 2008 when we have a competent president.
Bush doesn't care what 75% of Americans want. He only caters to one narrow unreasonable religious group. He doesn't care that a cure might be on the horizon that might save countless children from juvenile diabetes or cure Parkinson's or Alzheimer's or who knows what else if it can't be researched.
All he wants to do is send our kids to die in Iraq. He's a disgrace. 
Doesn't make it true.
For everyone of these, I can produce two in opposition.
It appears now that the surge is working, eight months afterward; however, because conditions are slowing getting better in Iraq is not because of the surge. It is a combination of things, the first and foremost that the United States is finally coming to the realization that the only way to get the country of Iraq back on its feet is to ALLOW the Iraqi's to take control in their OWN way and not under the strict edicts of the United States. Now that we are loosening the noose, things are coming together.
To solidify my point:
"All of Petraeus’ work on the subject of counterinsurgency, however, along with the things he himself was saying somewhat subtly, all pointed toward the conclusion that peace in Iraq required not a “surge” but political reconciliation between a sufficiently large set of Iraqi factions as to represent the overwhelming majority of Iraqis. The “surge” was, in some vague way, supposed to facilitate that, which it hasn’t, it was never a realistic method of securing the country on its own, which is why it hasn’t worked.
The “surge” was always part of the puzzle; it wasn’t supposed to solve everything by itself. War remains, as it has always been, a means of forcing people to make political concessions that they would not otherwise make voluntarily. Classic counterinsurgency doctrine requires securing large population centers, killing insurgents, and applying political pressure. All those things, and more, are happening."
and furthermore:
"Despite recent trends, 2007 is the deadliest year for U.S. forces since the war began in March 2003. Even on a day like Monday, considered a relatively quiet one with no reported coalition casualties, at least 33 Iraqis were killed and an equal number wounded in violence around the country.
While declining, the fighting in Iraq has just returned to levels seen before the February 2006 bombing of the Shi’ite shrine in Samarra by extremists — an attack that sent violence between Sunnis and Shi’ites soaring. And ordinary Iraqis say the streets are full of danger, even with the improvement in security." This little tidbit was just written 2 weeks ago by OTB.
This supposed truth is only the truth as HE sees it. Not necessary the TRUTH at all, and considering that he probably was only allowed to visit certain sections of Baghdad doesn't lend much validity to his statement.
It doesn't make any difference. sm
You can not buy gas for a week and it won't make a difference. They will just raise the prices even more to make up the difference. Neal Boortz had a great explanation on how this works on his show the other night. Big oil just bides it's time and then raises the cost again after people get tired of being stuck at home or not going to the movies, or out to eat, etc. That is his explanation in a nutshell.
Doesn't make him my leader.....
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Doesn't make a difference
Whether they are men or women. They all voted in a pay raise for themselves (both crats and reps) while the rest of the country is suffering, so don't just point out Sarah Palin.
Wow. Doesn't this post make you want
your chair and rush down to the nearest GOP headquarters and sign up as a life-long loyalist? Hope there's a box on the form I can check to become affiliated with the furthest right fringe that they have to offer. What class. What style. What charisma. Oh, please, can I be just like you? I'm getting really tired of that sugary sweet Kool-Aid I've been guzzling and can hardly wait to take a healthy slug of that bitter acid foaming out of your mouth. Thanks for sharing.
It doesn't make a difference...
guess that's what makes it all so sad. I think too many people thought of Obama as the man that was going to make things right and he's just making things worse - even sadder.
Being a POW doesn't make you qualified to run a country
Especially when you don't know the economy, have no ideas (or even care to) help the Americans through the hard times, and especially when you plan to stay at war for the next 100 years. I could go on and on but it would be too long.
Just 'cause he denies it doesn't it make it
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Then don't come here if it doesn't make you feel "proud"
If coming to this board and listening to people who voice their opinions and concerns of what is happening in the country is so upsetting to you and takes away from you feeling "proud", then I would say not to come here. We listen to the concerns on this board and everyone that trashed McCain and Palin (and still do), and anyone else who is a not a liberal and voices their opinions - they get trashed, but we listen to it.
Then we give our concerns about Obama and the incoming administration. If it's that upsetting to you to know that not everyone in this country is in love with Obama and worships the ground he walks on then maybe you should find some boards somewhere where most all of the posts are just the jubilation, rapture, and ecstasy everyone has because we've elected the first black man to the white house no matter whether or not he knows what he's doing or meets the qualifications. Oh wait - that is this board.
You know what I get sick of seeing. The utter disrepsect that people give to those that don't join in the rapture. We are attacked and called names for it, but the moment we respond back we are criticized. Even the people who said they voted for Obama but are having some concerns about the people's he's picking for cabinet members they are attacked too because they are not dancing in circles drinking the Kool-Aid chanting Obama's name over and over and over.
Everyone has different opinions. Everyone has different concerns. Everyone has the right to voice those opinions.
I wouldn't worry too much, however, the way America is headed is that nobody will ever be able to say or write the truth about Obama because already in Missouri the "thought police" are monitoring websites of who's writing what about Obama and if it is the truth or not gushing with love they are being reported. They are also trying to silence the conservative radio shows so that it will only be liberal viewpoint that everyone hears. So soon all you'll hear is happy happy joy joy about Obama and those who don't agree with thim will be on their way to one of the hundreds of re-education camps in this country.
Of interesting note, Obama won McCain by 9,522,111. Out of 129,391,683 people who voted, that's not very much. Less than 8%. And there are over 303,824,640 people in America so that means 174,432,957 people in America did not vote (that's more than those who did vote). According to statistics only 25% of the country's population are children under 20 years old, so that still leaves over 9,847,679 people that didn't vote. So to go around acting as though every single person living in America voted for Obama gets a bit old. I'm also thankful that there are enough American's in the country to know right from wrong and a lot of them know their rights as Americans and they still believe in the constitution and what our founding fathers fought for (definitely NOT what is happening today) and they are not joining in the newest cult to come to this country.
So if coming to this board just depeletes all your "proudness" I'd find somewhere else to go.
I stick by my statement - doesn't make it right
And the lady who set fire to him is just as bad as he is.
Doesn't it kind of make you laugh and...
...shake your head when they accuse you of being somebody else? They accused me and "gourdpainter" (sp?) of being the same person in the past, and all I could do was laugh and wonder how their thought processes work. 
Huh?? This post doesn't even make sense
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that doesn't make him white...my son is half black
He's not a white man, I don't know why you would even bring that into the conversation.
Not agreeing with your almight edicts doesn't make
brainwashed right-wing robots.
yeah, but could care less really doesn't make sense if you think about it -nm
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Did anyone notice the voice doesn't match the video? How does that make her (sm)
a witch hunter? So ridiculous. The voice didn't even match the minister who was praying with her.
Scary commentary on Market Ticker today. sm
Looks like we have a rough ride coming. I sure hope it is not the way this guy is calling it. A lot of people are not prepared.
http://market-ticker.denninger.net/
Do ya think lithium would help here? (only kidding, doesn't make sense, but this is Capitol Hill
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Why would you call people who just want a nice clean commentary on a board...sm
a bunch of bullies? I'm amazed at you. How are we the losers when someone else calls us names all night long and we only ask for common civility?
Your logic seems backward. It was a bully of one, directed at us.
And if you really want to talk about a bully pack, look to yourselves. The dems pile on sam to no end some days, nasty nasty stuff, when it's just her on. Why is it okay for you to do it to her with meanness, and we only ask for civility and common courtesy, and yet we're the bad guys?
We're all Americans here. Why do you continue to divide us? We're more alike than you care to admit, in a lot of ways.
But the big one that separates us, from the media, down to the people on blogs, is that liberal dems are mean and downright nasty to republicans. If we don't agree with your point of view, on almost any subject, you treat us as less than nothing. I just don't understand it.
I was trying to be helpful last night, and point out that she really should try to get along. But she didn't want to. Sally actually has some good posts occasionally, hidden in between her icky ones. I look for them sometimes, and feel she should be here, as is anyone's right. But no one should have to be subjected to vulgarity.
That's the big difference too. Dems don't want to get along with anyone, most often. You only get along with yourselves.
Very, very sad.
Yep, anyone who is NOT for Obama is a RACIST.
Oh brother.
OBAMA IS RACIST
BLIND
really, and you are voting for obama? then he is going to take...
from you too. DH and I aren't voting for him because of the taxes he is raising on the 250K an up. You should be worried too if your income is in that range like ours.
I think Obama and Michelle are racist!
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I think Michelle/Obama are racist
And the McCain/Palin ticket have not/still continue to show racism?? The bottom line of all of the nasty hateful comments that I have seen on this board is that if Barack Obama did not run for the President of this country, the majority of you whould't give a flying bobcat WHO he is. The number of hateful, bigoted, mean nasty comments I have seen on this board are more than enough to know that in 2008, hate, bigotry and racism have never died; it is displayed in subtle insidious ways - to any of those who care, it has been ONLY a little over TEN years since a black man was tied to the back of a pick up truck in Texas and dragged around so much he was dismembered..it is situations such as those which break my heart - a human being. I will never understand it; and in this election the racism is extremely blatant. Not to mention the blatantly racist exhibition two white men decided to make money from - check You Tube under "Obama waffles" - look at how he is caricatured and then ask yourself WHAT is racist...
With all due respect, I am voting for Obama, not his
Barack Obama addresses issues that mean the most to me. Simple as that. His wife seems to be a caring mother and caring human being in general who is intelligent and well educated. I think those are great qualities for a first lady.
Obama inspires me with his speeches. He reminds me of JFK in that way. He won't fly on private jets because his vote has not been purchased by any large corporations, and he does not want to give that appearance. In other words, I do not think he has been corrupted by money and greed, and in Washington that says a lot!! When I look at the big picture he is my #1 choice. Go Obama.  Sorry, couldn't resist the cheerleader! :)
Not voting for Obama either. Will write someone in instead. nm
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57% obama; still voting for McCain
Some things like abortion, death penalty and guns really aren't as important as my taxes and his spending of my taxes.
Everyone here knew you were voting Obama
Your phony posts have been full of crap from day one.
Every single post you've made here has bashed Republicans and praised that spider monkey obama.
Perhaps MTs who can't find a job STINK AT THEIR JOBS!!!! If you don't have work, do't blame the Republicans. Get some education and fix the problem yourself.
Stop beggining big government to fix your own shortcomings!!!!!
My reason for not voting for Obama...
he is going to raise DH and my taxes. Yes, we make a very good living through having a good work ethic, not living above our means and working for everything that we have. We have never had to rely on the gov't to give us a handout and we don't expect one. We put ourselves through school with loans that we paid back, we pay for our own health insurance, we paid for daycare when the kids were little, we didn't expect the gov't to give us a thing; we were taught early on that you work hard to achieve your goals and we have. I don't need a president telling my DH and I that we have to "spread our wealth" around to those less fortunate than us. WE decide who to give our money to and when. There will be on incentive to work hard if Obama is elected; laziness will be rewarded. We shouldn't be bailing out big corporations at all, nor should we bail out every homeowner who bought more than they could afford and now expect help. While there are some circumstances that do merit help such as medical reasons or job loss, most are due to financial irresponsibility on the homeowners part. The American Dream is out there if you work for it, but Obama will make sure if you acheive it you must carry someone on your back who doesn't deserve it.
I am not voting for Obama. Are you really that ignorant? nm
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I hope you voting for Obama, did you?..nm
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Obama went to a racist church for 20 years...
and then, when it became detrimental to his drive to the Presidency, threw his pastor of 20 years and self-described mentor under the bus. And this inspires you that he is some kind of messiah-like figure interested in truth, justice, and the American way? You really believe that...with his history? Or do you even know his history...and better than that...even care about it?
Are you? Harp on Obama's racist associations
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You must be against Michele Obama, then too....she's a proven racist...
and no, I will not tell you what I mean, because if you don't remember, yet again, selective memory, and it was explained away.
But make no mistake. Michele Obama is a racist and a bigot. Married to the Barack Obama.
You will just excuse her, like everything else Obama
Feel the same and wont be voting for Obama. nm
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