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Don't forget our computers!

Posted By: PK on 2006-01-03
In Reply to: NSA went to phone companies. Phone - hmmm

I received an intrusion alarm when I booted mine up this morning.  Don't know if a hacker is after some personal information or if it's my friendly government stalking me because I disagree with Bush's policies.


Be careful where you surf.  Big Brother might be watching.




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FBI Examines Computers in Cheney's Office

FBI Examines Computers in Cheney's Office



By MARK SHERMAN, Associated Press Writer


Thursday, October 6, 2005


 













(10-06) 23:36 PDT WASHINGTON, (AP) --


FBI agents examined computers in Vice President Dick Cheney's office and talked to former and current White House aides Thursday as they investigated an FBI intelligence analyst accused of passing classified information to Filipino officials.



Meantime, former Philippine President Joseph Estrada acknowledged receiving an internal U.S. government report on the Philippines from the analyst, Leandro Aragoncillo, but played down the importance of the information, comparing it to material aired in his country's media.



The FBI is looking at whether Aragoncillo, a former Marine, took classified information about the Philippines from the White House when he worked for Vice Presidents Al Gore and Cheney from 1999 to 2002.



The type of information has not been disclosed. Though Aragoncillo had top-secret clearance, that status would not have made him privy to highly sensitive intelligence.



Aragoncillo, a U.S. citizen originally from the Philippines, was charged last month with providing classified information from his FBI posting at Fort Monmouth, N.J., to former and current Philippine officials who oppose President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo. Philippine Justice Secretary Raul Gonzales said the criminal complaint against Aragoncillo suggests the information could have been intended to destabilize the Philippine government.



Michael Ray Aquino, a former top Philippine police official who acted as Aragoncillo's alleged go-between, was indicted by a Newark, N.J., federal grand jury Thursday on charges of conspiracy and acting as an unregistered foreign agent. Aragoncillo, 46, of Woodbury, N.J., and Aquino, 39, living in Queens, N.Y., have been jailed since their arrests last month.



Federal prosecutors in Newark did not seek an indictment against Aragoncillo because he is negotiating a plea, court records show.



Aquino lawyer Mark A. Berman said his client rejected a plea deal.



There's a fundamental difference between Aragoncillo and Aquino, Berman said. Aquino is not an FBI agent and had no reason to know that the information the government laid out in the indictment was classified.



While the criminal complaint is limited to Aragoncillo's time at Fort Monmouth the investigation has widened to include his stint, while a Marine, in the vice president's office. Agents examined computers and interviewed current and former vice presidential aides Thursday, according to a law enforcement official who spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing.



FBI spokesman Rich Kolko would not confirm details of the investigation, but he said, In the course of a logical investigation, the FBI will research the subject's entire career for whenever he had access to classified or sensitive information to see whether any illegal or improper activity took place.



Meantime, Estrada said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press in the Philippines that he received documents from Aragoncillo but that he did not think they contained classified information.



He was just describing how America sees the Philippines, Estrada said. I don't think that is classified. It pertains to graft and corruption, the first gentleman (Arroyo's husband).



Estrada said he met Aragoncillo during his state visit to Washington in 2000 and received about six reports from him.



He compared what Aragoncillo did with reports diplomats send back home. I don't think that's espionage, he said.



He's a kind person, the former president said of Aragoncillo. He's a good family man. He has two children.



Estrada said Aragoncillo communicated with him by mail and also spoke with him on his birthday, but he didn't say when. Estrada was toppled in massive street protests in 2001 on charges of corruption and is under house arrests while on trial.



A Philippine opposition senator has acknowledged receiving information from Aquino. Sen. Panfilo Lacson, a former national police chief under whom Aquino served, said he and many others received information passed by Aquino, but he played down the value of the reports, describing them as shallow information.



White House and Justice Department officials declined to comment on the investigation.



Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., a former federal prosecutor who handled an FBI spy case, said the Aragoncillo case raises questions about easy access to classified materials and how long the naturalized U.S. citizen was able to pass on sensitive information before he was stopped.



If the complaint is accurate, there is a wealth of evidence which makes it all the more surprising he went undiscovered as long as he did, because it was not a very sophisticated operation, Schiff said.



Aragoncillo was hired to work at Fort Monmouth in July 2004 and began sending classified information and documents in January, often via e-mail, according to an FBI complaint made public last month. The documents' contents have not been made public.



From May to Aug. 15 of this year, he printed or downloaded 101 classified documents relating to the Philippines, of which 37 were classified secret, according to the criminal complaint.



He sent some of the material to Aquino, the complaint said.



Aragoncillo's public defender, Chester M. Keller, declined to say if his client was cooperating with investigators. It's just too sensitive right now, Keller said.



___



Associated Press reporter Jim Gomez in Manila and Jeffrey Gold in Newark, N.J., contributed to this report.



Inmates got hold of the computers at the asylum again...nm
nm
Okay, smartie, because computers and phones are not people
then nobody's privacy is being violated since computers and phones are not people.

Give it up....this whole snoopgate thing is stupid.

Nancy Pelosi said recently said that there have been no gross violations of the Patriot act, so all this paranoia is basically another Dem attempt to try and take down the president, and again won't work.
Government computers used to check out Joe the Plumber...






Investigators trying to determine whether access was illegal
Friday, October 24, 2008 8:57 PM
By Randy Ludlow

The Columbus Dispatch
"State and local officials are investigating if state and law-enforcement computer systems were illegally accessed when they were tapped for personal information about "Joe the Plumber."

Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher became part of the national political lexicon Oct. 15 when Republican presidential candidate John McCain mentioned him frequently during his final debate with Democrat Barack Obama.

The 34-year-old from the Toledo suburb of Holland is held out by McCain as an example of an American who would be harmed by Obama's tax proposals.

Public records requested by The Dispatch disclose that information on Wurzelbacher's driver's license or his sport-utility vehicle was pulled from the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles database three times shortly after the debate.

Information on Wurzelbacher was accessed by accounts assigned to the office of Ohio Attorney General Nancy H. Rogers, the Cuyahoga County Child Support Enforcement Agency and the Toledo Police Department.

It has not been determined who checked on Wurzelbacher, or why. Direct access to driver's license and vehicle registration information from BMV computers is restricted to legitimate law enforcement and government business.

Obama/McCain computers hacked

during election campaign. 


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article5105027.ece


My husband heard on the news this morning that Obama is asking again for 900 Billon to add to our deficit for his tax plan.  I want to see more jobs like McCain wanted, not more unemployment and more deficit. 


More Double-0 Bush spying, this time on our computers

NSA Web Site Places 'Cookies' on Computers


By ANICK JESDANUN, AP Internet WriterThu Dec
29, 7:24 AM ET


The National Security Agency's Internet site has been placing files on
visitors' computers that can track their Web surfing activity despite strict
federal rules banning most of them.


These files, known as cookies, disappeared after a privacy activist
complained and The Associated Press made inquiries this week, and agency
officials acknowledged Wednesday they had made a mistake. Nonetheless, the issue
raises questions about privacy at a spy agency already on the defensive amid
reports of a secretive eavesdropping program in the United States.


Considering the surveillance power the NSA has, cookies are not exactly a
major concern, said Ari Schwartz, associate director at the Center for Democracy
and Technology, a privacy advocacy group in Washington, D.C. But it does show a
general lack of understanding about privacy rules when they are not even
following the government's very basic rules for Web privacy.


Until Tuesday, the NSA site created two cookie files that do not expire until
2035 — likely beyond the life of any computer in use today.


Don Weber, an NSA spokesman, said in a statement Wednesday that the cookie
use resulted from a recent software upgrade. Normally, the site uses temporary,
permissible cookies that are automatically deleted when users close their Web
browsers, he said, but the software in use shipped with persistent cookies
already on.


After being tipped to the issue, we immediately disabled the cookies, he
said.


Cookies are widely used at commercial Web sites and can make Internet
browsing more convenient by letting sites remember user preferences. For
instance, visitors would not have to repeatedly enter passwords at sites that
require them.


But privacy advocates complain that cookies can also track Web surfing, even
if no personal information is actually collected.


In a 2003 memo, the White House's Office of Management and Budget prohibits
federal agencies from using persistent cookies — those that aren't automatically
deleted right away — unless there is a compelling need.


A senior official must sign off on any such use, and an agency that uses them
must disclose and detail their use in its privacy policy.


Peter Swire, a Clinton administration official who had drafted an earlier
version of the cookie guidelines, said clear notice is a must, and `vague
assertions of national security, such as exist in the NSA policy, are not
sufficient.


Daniel Brandt, a privacy activist who discovered the NSA cookies, said
mistakes happen, but in any case, it's illegal. The (guideline) doesn't say
anything about doing it accidentally.


The Bush administration has come under fire recently over reports it
authorized NSA to secretly spy on e-mail and phone calls without court
orders.


Since The New York Times disclosed the domestic spying program earlier this
month, President Bush has stressed that his executive order allowing the
eavesdropping was limited to people with known links to al-Qaida.


But on its Web site Friday, the Times reported that the NSA, with help from
American telecommunications companies, obtained broader access to streams of
domestic and international communications.


The NSA's cookie use is unrelated, and Weber said it was strictly to improve
the surfing experience and not to collect personal user data.


Richard M. Smith, a security consultant in Cambridge, Mass., questions
whether persistent cookies would even be of much use to the NSA. They are great
for news and other sites with repeat visitors, he said, but the NSA's site does
not appear to have enough fresh content to warrant more than occasional
visits.


The government first issued strict rules on cookies in 2000 after disclosures
that the White House drug policy office had used the technology to track
computer users viewing its online anti-drug advertising. Even a year later, a
congressional study found 300 cookies still on the Web sites of 23 agencies.


In 2002, the CIA removed cookies it had inadvertently placed at one of its
sites after Brandt called it to the agency's attention.


Yes, AJ, don't forget the
**liberal media**. When all else fails, just blame them. I wonder how long before they start attacking Fitzgerald.
I will never forget what he said.

He conned me, just like he conned those in Congress who voted for the war against Iraq.  I believed him when he said Iraq was involved with 9/11, and I wholeheartedly supported his war against Iraq for the reasons he gave. 


But he didn't lie about his personal sex life, so his lies don't count to some people.


But don't forget -

Bush no longer cares about Bin Laden (and obviously Al Qaeda and the Taliban).


Also don't forget that Bush's reckless failure to nail 150 Taliban members is really Clinton's fault. 


Don't forget
Reagan and G.W. Bush also have been accused of rape.  Check it out.  Please don't say that the Democrats have cornered the market on this.  Even Eisenhower had a mistress.
Let's not forget...
:}
yea, and don't forget
--
Don't forget
the one I just used before reading your post..."airhead."  LOL. 
Lest we forget...

This is for those with poor memories:


http://www.bercasio.com/movies/dems-wmd-before-iraq.wmv


But let us not forget
Harry Reid, who said "The War Is Lost."  How totally irresponsible, not to mention a total disgrace to our troops.  I have such respect for their selflessness.  I'm literally in awe of them. I  get that lump in the throat thing when I see them.  We owe them SO much!
Also, don't forget

his famous "signing statements," like when he signed the law against torture and then quietly came back later and basically added that he doesn't have to obey that law if he doesn't want to.


http://www.democracynow.org/2006/3/27/bush_signs_statements_to_bypass_torture


I also find it astonishing that some people really believe that Democrats run Congress.  The House may have a Democratic majority, but the Republicans still have the majority in the Senate.  The Senate needs 60 Democrats in order to avoid a Republican fillibuster, and to my knowledge, they still don't have that number, even though they picked up a few seats in this year's election, so the Republicans can still continue to control the "do-nothing Congress."


(I hope this post makes sense.  Not feeling well and need to take meds and go to bed. )


As always, let's just forget anything that
for Obama and move on to other issues, such as how we never gave President Bush a chance to succeed, we never showed showed him an ounce of respect but we demand it for Obama, yada, yada, yada....whatever. Just be sure and ignore anything about Obama that is a little iffy, shove it under the rug and bow down. But, of course, there is no bias here.
lest you all forget.....sm
The electoral vote has not yet taken place and will not taken place until ---shoot, no calendar so I may be off on the date, but I believe it is December 10th. Not that I would want to actually see a change to the outcome of the election because I can't even begin to imagine the chaos that would ensue, but nothing is yet concrete. Don't come blasting at me; I am not expressing an opinion, simply stating a fact.
How soon we forget about

Or whatever name the woman was dubbed for going on TV and shouting that after he's in office her..."mortgage will be paid...gas in her car...bills paid...yada, yada, yada"...how soon we forget about that huh?


I am saddened that most people cannot see past the fact that Obama is a black man, period. To some, that's all the qualification he needs. He may very well be the perfect man for the job, be he black or white, or whatever, but I'm afraid he'll never be given the chance to prove that because so many are just fixated on the fact that he's black...so sad.


I do have to add that I did not vote for Obama, not because he's black, but because I disagree with his views. Even my 10 YO son said today that it doesn't matter what color his skin is, it matters what kind of a man he is, and he is so right. Obama is much more than that, but most just can't see past his ethnicity and that's so sad and surely not what he (or MLK) would have wanted.


 


Don't forget
The 200 million for grass on the national mall. I'm not a repub and this angers me.
Oh, how could I forget?
Acorn.
Oh, how could I forget?
ACORN.
And don't forget
those neat webby things between your toes while you're evolving. 
How could you forget....
OPRAH? People are sheep.
Let us not forget the

lobbyists in which Obama stated that there would be no place for lobbyists in Washington.  Then he later said lobbyists were okay but set up certain guidelines in regards to appointing them.  Then when that kept him from appointing certain lobbyists.....he totally disregarded the guidelines that he himself stated. 


Oh....and he didn't bow to the Saudi King......yeah right.  That's like Bill Clinton saying he didn't have sex with THAT woman.  LMAO!


lies lies lies and more lies.


Please....if anyone else can think of lies that I have missed....feel free to add.


You always seem to forget

James Carville who said he wanted Bush to fail.  Funny how the liberal media didn't jump on that comment though.  Once again....goes to show how one-sided the media is.


As someone who didn't vote for Barrack Obama, I want him to fail because I believe the road he wants to take us down is not the right road.  I don't want him hurt or anything, but I don't want him to do everything he wants to do either because I think it will be bad for our country.


There is nothing wrong with saying that either.  If James Carville didn't agree with what Bush was doing, he had every right to say he wished him to fail.  The same goes for anyone who doesn't believe in what Obama is doing.  We have a right to wish him to fail for the sake of our country. Just because a president fails in completing his own personal agenda does not mean that America fails as well and that is what you all fail to see.  All you see is I said I want him to fail and therefore I want America to fail....which is so not the case.


It amazes me that one side hates Bush and gives the man no credit for anything he does and does nothing but call him names and say how dumb he is.  Now that Obama is in office, you can't see anything he does wrong or refuse to see the lies that he blatantly tells and you give him credit for everything. 


I am still waiting for the day when people hold all politicians accountable for their actions instead of blindly following someone based on their political party alone. 


Will Obama make mistakes....yes...he is only human.  But that doesn't mean he should get a free pass for everything wrong he does either.  Every politican should be held accountable for the mistakes they make.  If Obama makes a mistakes...fine.....but my biggest problem with him is the fact that he blatantly lies about things.  Compare his campaign rhetoric to what he is actually doing.


Honestly, if I had voted for Obama and believed what he said during his campaign, I'd be thoroughly ticked off at him.  However, there are so many people who continue to believe the rhetoric and refuse to see with their own eyes what he is doing....it is just shameful really.


How can I forget - it's on my b-day.
:-) Will be interested to see the news of the day.
Don't forget.......................
his 8 year affair with Herb Moses, an executive at Fannie Mae... that is why he pushed deregulation of Fannie Mae in the first place.....to appease his little "lover" and relax lending restrictions!!!! What a sicko!

As Bill Clinton said (and I ain't no fan of his but at least he made sense here)...
"I think the responsibility that the Democrats have may rest more in resisting any efforts by Republicans in the Congress or by me when I was president, to put some standards and tighten up a little on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac."

Of course, that's why Frank got so b*tchy back at O'Reilly..... he didn't like to be accused of the truth and screaming back like a girl! The truth does stink doesn't it?


can we forget about clinton?
When you need a punching bag, bring up Clinton..If in doubt, bring up Clinton, if a republican is being investigated, bring up Clinton.  Who cares about Clinton.  He is not in office, however, Delay, Frist and Rove are all working in the govt.
And don't forget the bird flu.

Almost a year ago Bush reserved the right to declare martial law if/when the bird flu comes to the USA. 


http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2005/041005militarytakeover.htm


As for your other points, I'm sure there are home-grown terrorists in the USA.  Will Bush limit his target to those people?  That's the problem.  Nobody knows for sure.  All people can be certain of is how he feels about swiftboating and getting revenge on anyone who disagrees with him.  And that's why this man should be forced to follow the law and use warrants when spying on Americans.  He simply can't be trusted.


I do question which troops he will be using, though.  They're too busy fighting Bush's war in Iraq (not to mention likely war in Iran) to be able to fight Bush's war against Americans who don't agree with him. 


Don't forget Travelgate. sm
I am amazed how many people don't know the details of what happened during Travelgate. The lives of people ruined for no good reason other than cronyisim.  It remains a travesty of gargatuan proportions and probably 80% of the people don't even know what happened.  Sad.  The Clintons....well, you pretty much said it. 
Forget his religion,
he was a total bomb as a governor. He said one thing to get elected governor, then changed his mind when he decided to run for president. Then he went around the country bashing Massachusetts. Now there is a story in the newspaper that there were illegal immigrants painting his house even after all the problems with his landscapers. Such a hypocrite.
Don't forget his preacher!

Okay. Whatever. You just do not get where I am coming from. Forget it.
I DO NOT LIKE EITHER CANDIDATE. PERIOD. END OF DISCUSSION. Thank you. Blast Obama, Blast McCain. The ECONOMY is the problem right now. But nobody seems to care about that. Just constant bashing, and scare tactics. Done with the whole thing. Bye.
Hay, GP. Don't forget the conebread.
!
Don't forget about the states. Why
do you think Rendel hosted the Governor's meeting in Phila. last week? They want some money too, but Rendel is just covering his tracks by calling this meeting because the state is almost bankrupt after giving every nickel away of the road repair money to 2 cities and just last week before the meeting, he gave another couple Million or Billion away for something else.
Don't forget a son of a terrorist.
x
How quickly we forget...(sm)

Bush has made campaign promises to: 


Lower the price of oil -- didn't happen. Reform healthcare -- didn't happen.  Improve foreign relations -- sooo didn't happen.  Education reform -- not even close.  Increase domestic oil and gas production and exploration -- another swing and a miss.  "Transition to a market economy" not dependent on federal supports. --  ROFL.  That's just a few.


You seem to think it's okay for Bush to not come through on his promises (for 2 terms in a row), but you are just dying to jump all over Obama who hasn't even been sworn in yet. 


Don't forget, you will get a check to help you
pay your bills, buy gas, pay your mortgage, college will be free, healthcare will be free, jobs for everyone and we will all link arms and sing Kumbaya! The blind shall see and the deaf will hear....a bunch of nonsense in the coming 4 years!
Yep, and don't forget...your favorite....
the Terminator....lol...
And don't ever forget it, baby. Believe
someone around to remind you, YES YOU DID!
I forget - what's a PUMA again?
*
And people seem to forget
that on Clinton's watch, when he could've had bin Laden's head on a platter, he was too busy with his extramarital activities.

I just can't wait for the big O to fall flat on his face, as he will. He looks like a freakin' deer in the headlights with a thought balloon over his head. "Oh, crap. I won. NOW what do I do?"
Oh Please, how we forget so quickly.
Bush will write a book and will be able to share some of the terrorist acts that were to happen on US soil and attacks were able to be stopped before they happened. Bush could not tell about because of being in office, but now he will share. I bet it had something to do with Iraq too.

You forget so quickly. Just be glad you were not in NY area during 911, but then if you were, maybe you would remember.
How quickly we forget....(sm)

What I want to know is why can't the government start something that would charge companies who outsource production to other countries? 


The answer to that lies in Bush tax cuts to those corporations.  Watch that stimulus plan.  The pubs want to add more tax cuts for those very same companies instead of working on infrastructure which is what this stimulus is all about in the long run.


And since we're talking about the stimulus, here's what I think.  I am in favor of it.  However, Obama tried to compromise with the pubs and put in some of their tax cuts and cut out some of his programs in the hopes of getting some pub support.  I say since they obviously aren't going to support it unless it looks like another pub trickle down tax cut (as evidenced by no pub votes in the house), the dems just need to go back to the original plan (maybe adding more for infrastructure) and just push the bill past the pubs.  If they don't want to be part of the solution, then they can just sit on the side lines and whine like they always do.  Maybe some of those midnight sessions like the pubs do to get stuff passed is in order.


Forget the topic I did...LOL. nm

You seem to forget that when put to a vote...
the "bible thumpers" won in this case in California. Perhaps this is not as much a "bible thumping" issue as you and others would like to make it. Unfortunately, it looks as if our government is no longer "For the people, by the people." It appears that what the people vote in does not matter.
For some, do not forget about the tea party.
April 15, 2009 No more government tax spending.
NO NO! Again forget religion! sm
Salvation is easy but you have to repent from your sins (which means turn away) from your sins, accept Jesus Christ as the living Son of God and the author and finisher of our faith. Christ himself made it so easy a child could understand.

Nowhere does it say that you can "believe" in Jesus and still go about your same sinful life. That is what repentence is all about. There are folks who will say they believe in Jesus but have not repented. That is something our churches have taken out as of late, repentence. If you truly repent and turn away from your sins you WILL lead an upstanding life. It doesn't mean you won't fall and make mistakes or sin but you will know immediately by the Holy Spirit and you will want to ask forgiveness for that sin.

God does not judge us based on our character. He judges us based on the fact whether our sins have been covered by the blood of his son Jesus christ. If that has happened truly, then your character will speak for itself. There are alot of good moral upstanding people who are going to find themselves in he** because they have depended on their own righteousness and not HIS righteousness to get them into heaven.
I think a lot of people forget
in the argument that these rules came from the Bible that the Bible was not written at the onset of man being on this earth.

However, I do believe in creation. And I believe that when man was created, he was created in the image of the Creator, and therefore it was imprinted in him the rules of right and wrong.

I am also a huge believer in studying psychology (that's why I'm in school for it!) and I believe that everyone's conscience is where this right and wrong is imprinted. But, over time, we can become dull to our conscience, even tricking it into believing what's wrong is right, etc. Just like man, our conscience is fallible, and when someone or a group of people come along that are overly convincing, if someone (or a group of people) are not deeply rooted in what they believe is right, then they can be convinced otherwise, and can be made to do horrible things. For example - Hitler and the Nazis.

So I would say that I believe that the problem of right and wrong is an absolute one. There is a right and wrong side for everyone, and it is the same one, but through the fallibility of man and conscience, we have been led to believe that right and wrong is relative to the person or people group.

Good discussion :)


I remember them. How could anyone forget. whoops sm
what am I saying.  They are erased from the chalkboards of the libbie's minds.