Don't know of any Dutch oven groups around here....
Posted By: sam on 2008-11-06
In Reply to: Sam - gourdpainter
but I am not from "around here." Which comes out often...I just answer someone and get the "you aren't from around here, are you?" lol. They do like my accent tho.
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I have a whole set of cast iron including the dutch oven
As for electric for the fridge, we have a generator we can use if necessary but it gets cold enough here that we can store our food outside. Ah, the good old days. 
Dutch ovens
Breakfast, dinner and supper, there's nothing better. Check out these websites:
http://www.idos.com/
http://www.arkdos.org/
http://www.lsdos.com/
Dutch paradise?
I have read that those who are really abusing the system are the colonies of Muslims. When there were small numbers of Muslim immigrants at first, the Dutch government (rather chauvinistically) decided to keep them almost as pets. Sort of, 'Your culture is so rich and much more ancient and interesting than ours, so come here and help us be diverse, and we will take care of you.' Now there are huge communities of Muslims who do not work, have not assimilated, live under Sharia law, and are on the Dutch dole, outbreeding and fleecing the infidels. Soon they will be the majority.
A couple of years ago, a friend vacationed in Amsterdam. Before she got there, she had another friend arrange for a native of Amsterdam to show her around. He warned her in no uncertain terms not to stray from the Dutch business, residential and tourist areas because if a woman wandered into the Muslim areas with her 'bare face hanging out' she might simply disappear - it has happened. The Muslim 'ghettos' have their own quaint customs, and Dutch law enforcement is reluctant to intrude.
In this very moralistic, industrious and proper society marijuana is legal and quite public. While the locals seldom use it, tourists may go into special cafes, order and smoke a couple of joints. Horticulture is something the Dutch have done very well for centuries (and not just with tulips) so they have made ganja culture quite a science, breeding for all kinds of properties. Would you like to laugh uncontrollably? Hear colors? See music? You buy the dope that has those qualities. My friend said that the customs search as she left the country, to make sure no one leaves with even a particle of weed, was amazingly thorough. The tourist trade is such a large part of the Dutch economy they do not want to risk annoying other countries by having their dope smuggled out.
Then there are the red light districts where nearly-nude young ladies are displayed dancing in store fronts. You stroll along looking at the merchandise, pick one out and enter the store. The window blind is lowered, you make your transaction and leave. The blind goes back up and she is dancing once more. The sex trade and the availability of legal marijuana combine to make the Netherlands a European 'Disneyland for grownups.'
Before we go all ga-ga over Dutch socialism, which includes the 'free' health care, I think we really need to look at some of the costs (other than monetary.) As the article points out, this is a society very high on conformity, very low on individuality. Those who wish to stand out usually emigrate. One example: You walk down an Amsterdam residential street, as my friend did, and notice there are no curtains in the first-floor windows. Why? Because you need to be totally open to your neighbors' scrutiny. Draping windows would indicate you are doing something you don't wish others to see. It would be rude. On the one hand, all the natives being polite, well spoken, well dressed, well groomed at all times and not overweight seems a good thing. Who wouldn't want to live among such spiffy and attractive people? On the other hand, this is all part of 'just being normal' and is an expected part of good citizenship. If you would rather lounge around your messy living room in your jammies, you may not, because you have no curtains and this behavior would be considered unseemly by your neighbors. In business, you do not wish to excel, merely to fit in and be 'normal.'
Americans are ill-mannered, scruffy, competitive and individualistic. These are exactly the qualities which have made possible the amazing number of inventions and discoveries coming out of this country. It's a package deal, I'm afraid. As a society, if you want to produce Thomas Edison, Albert Einstein, Jonas Salk, Orville and Wilbur Wright, Katharine Hepburn, George Washington Carver, Eli Whitney, Virginia Apgar, Henry Ford, Toni Morrison, Bill Gates, then you're also going to get the occasional Boss Tweed, Al Capone, Michael Moore, Roseanne Barr, Jimmy Swaggart, Rosie O'Donnell, Perez Hilton (or Paris Hilton, for that matter). In Holland, in most of Europe, you would not see any of these individuals standing out. In America, not being 'normal' is the norm. I don't know that I would wish to trade all the wonderful and weird features of American culture for Dutch normalcy. Not sure I want to swap our unequal social system for cradle-to-grave maintenance, European style, and the death of personal initiative.
NYT article about Dutch "socialism". sm
My good friend was born in Holland and says that the depiction of life there in this article is very accurate.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/03/magazine/03european-t.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&em
How many more groups will he
throw under the bus? He obviously needs a much bigger bus!
That's a real friend, wouldn't you say?
Certain groups in this country sure are big on
I hate any of these radical groups
and the panthers are no better than the klan was and it does seem like the news media just ignores what they don't want to report. They certainly should not be allowed to block the entrance which they were doing this morning. I have heard cops have been preparing for rioting, so all please be careful. I am reminded of Rodney King and rabblerousers just started attacking whites with no regard for how they may have felt as individuals. And, once again, the military vote will not be counted - how long are we going to tolerate that? It arrived "too late", probably because it was sent too late by Washington. Amazing.
Gee, the only violent hate groups I see around here
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Getting closer to July 4. Here's what NK groups are saying
This is a little long but it's 2 articles. Sounds like they are getting pumped up and ready for a fight. Funny, I don't remember 2 million troops fighting in the Korean War. Anybody else?
"Workers and GFTUK Members Meet to Protest against U.S. Imperialists |
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Pyongyang, June 24 (KCNA) -- Workers and members of the General Federation of Trade Unions of Korea held a meeting on the bank of the River Taedong where the monument to the sinking of the U.S. ship of aggression "General Sherman" stands and the U.S. imperialist armed spy ship "Pueblo" is anchored on Tuesday on the occasion of the "June 25 the Day of the Struggle against U.S. Imperialism."
A reporter and speakers at the meeting recalled that the sworn enemy U.S. imperialists stretched the tentacles of aggression to Korea from more than a century ago and ignited a war of aggression to destroy the young DPRK in its cradle on June 25, 1950.
The Korean war was the most brazen-faced and brigandish war of aggression in the world history of wars and a savage war of genocide baffling the human imagination, they said.
Noting that the U.S. imperialists have imposed all sorts of misfortune and sufferings upon the Korean people during the history, they declared that should the U.S. imperialists ignite a war again, the army and people of the DPRK will fully mobilize the nation's capability for self-defence built in every way under the Songun leadership of Kim Jong Il, illustrious commander of Mt. Paektu, and wipe out the aggressors in this land to the last one and achieve the historic cause of national reunification.
They stressed the need for the workers and the members of the GFTUK to protect Kim Jong Il, who represents the destiny of the country and the nation, politically and ideologically at the cost of their lives and glorify the ever-victorious history of Songun Korea with the might of single-minded unity more powerful than a nuclear weapon, united closer around the headquarters of the revolution.
A letter of protest was read out at the meeting."
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Agricultural Workers Vow to Take Revenge upon Enemy |
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Pyongyang, June 24 (KCNA) -- A meeting of agricultural workers was held outside the Class Education Hall in Kaesong City on Tuesday to vow to take revenge upon the enemy on the occasion of "June 25, the day of the struggle against U.S. imperialism".
Kang Chang Uk, chairman of the Central Committee of the Union of Agricultural Workers of Korea, made a report at the meeting.
Speeches were made there.
Kang and the speakers said that the Korean war launched by the U.S. imperialists was the most brazen-faced and brigandish war of aggression to suffocate the DPRK and reduce the whole of Korea to their colony.
They condemned the thrice-cursed atrocities committed by the U.S. imperialists, recalling that they hurled more than two million troops including their aggressor forces and a huge quantity of war hardware into the Korean war, indiscriminately killing innocent people and reducing the cities, farm villages, industrial establishments, schools and hospitals to ashes.
They declared that the army and people in the DPRK will get fully prepared to go into action and would turn out to defend the country to the last in a do-or-die spirit, should the U.S. imperialists intrude into their fertile land even an inch.
The servicepersons and people in the DPRK will remain unfazed in face of any sanctions and blockade of the U.S. imperialists and are sure to win as long as they are under the leadership of Kim Jong Il, illustrious commander of Mt. Paektu, and have invincible military power and their single-minded unity."
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No need to ridicule, as most religious groups make
NM
Report: 50% rise in violent hate groups
Southern Poverty Law Center: 50% rise in violent hate groups
David Edwards and Muriel Kane
Published: Wednesday April 15, 2009
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A new report from the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), which tracks the activities of violent hate groups in the United States, has found an alarming rise in the number of such groups, from 602 in 2000 to 926 in 2008.
This comes on the heels of a controversial report on "violent extremism" from the Department of Homeland Security, which has outraged many conservatives by seeming to lump them in with extremists.
Morris Dees, the founder of the SPLC, told CBS's Harry Smith on Wednesday that he believes the two reports do "synch up pretty much" and that "the report from the Department of Homeland Security should be taken very seriously."
However, the SPLC's own report focuses very narrowly on groups which actively preach violence, including neo-Nazis, the Ku Klux Klan, and the "racist skinhead subculture." It also notes the surprising rise of "anti-Semitic black separatists calling for death to Jews on bustling street corners in several East Coast cities."
"A key 2008 hate group trend was the increasing militancy of the extremist fringe of the Hebrew Israelite movement," the report states, "whose adherents believe that Jews are creatures of the devil and that whites deserve death or slavery. These radical black supremacists have no love for Barack Obama, calling him a 'house nigger' and a puppet of Israel. They preach to inner-city blacks that evil Jews are solely responsible for the recession."
Dees told Smith, "The political climate, the election of Obama, the immigration issues ... and now, especially, the economy is almost causing a resurgence of what we saw in the days of Timothy McVeigh, almost a militia movement that's being reborn. ... I think that an American person is much more likely to be harmed by a domestic terrorist extremist group than by one from abroad."
Dees also emphasized that many extremist groups are recruiting Iraq veterans and even active-duty members of the military because of their expertise with arms and explosives. "It's a serious issue," he stated, "especially with a lot of these guys coming back with post-traumatic stress syndrome, coming back to a failing economy, the inability to buy a home and get a job and get credit."
This video is from CBS's The Early Show, broadcast Apr. 15, 2009.
Video at: http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Southern_Poverty_Law_Center_50_rise_0415.html
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
That's how Osamabinbama's going to win.
Folks are getting snookered.
They'll realize too late, like when they're impeaching the chosen one for gross negligence.
Oh well. He can always become a used car salesman. He's already perfected his look-em-in-the-eyes-and-lie technique. And you simpletons just smile and eat it up and wave your purdy little signs.
Change.
Hope.
Puhleeeze.
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