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Don't you realize who you're talking to?

Posted By: sm on 2009-05-08
In Reply to: You might be interested to know this is the country - that lets radical imams preach jihad on the street

These type of people have no loyalty to this country. They just don't get "free people". They have never gotten what it means to be in a country where they have freedoms other countries don't have and they never will.

They are so wrapped up in their own lives, they will never get the big picture. Just like with this president. They will sing his praises for the next 4 years even if he took every freedom they have away because they won't admit he is taking this country down the wrong path..... that's because country doesn't mean anything to them; the "party" is all they see and for some, the fact we have a black man for president is all they care about. Either way, it's very sad for us all.

I didn't like a lot of things Bush didn't do while in office... closing our borders for starters, so more moochers won't crawl, the crime rate wouldn't skyrocket, and our prisons wouldn't be full of still more freeloading moochers I have to pay for for years to come. The fact that he didn't pardon the border patrol agents sickens me. There is no excuse for that.

So, for those who are stuck on "party" lines instead of what is best for their country, they will pull this country down. The fact that poster thinks it's a good thing to keep "free speech" silenced is frightening. Those people are what's wrong with this country!


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I don't know what you're talking about.

But I find it funny that you throw out a bunch of words and suddenly your friend below accepts them as fact.


I'm being investigated?  Fine.  Investigate away.  I have nothing to hide.


If you're talking about....sm
McCain, he has said he doesn't believe in torture, and I have doubts he would use it on anyone else, especially since it was used on him.


Hey, that's me you're talking about....LOL (sm)
Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on how you look at it), religion does have an influence on politics.  So when we start talking about abortion, for example, you really can't talk about the issue without talking about religion.  For me, the idea of religion being brought up on this board is not the issue.  The issue is that people seem to have little tolerance of other religions (or the lack thereof). 
No idea what you're talking about -
...except the person who posted whatever it was on the conservative board, so why don't you take it up with that person ON THE CONSERVATIVE BOARD? You sure give yourself a lot of license coming here to bash everyone else over it, as if that's some kind of excuse.

Looks like the NeoCons are getting bored talking to each other...have to come here to troll instead. Had to happen!
I don't know if you're talking about my post or not.

I think the subject line that All Americans Deserve to Live (or something like that).


I see that my post is gone, and if mine is the post you're referring to, I'm sorry.  I can't repost it.  It was just something I quickly wrote from my heart, and I didn't keep a copy of it.


I guess I'll have to start saving a copy of everything I write.  :-(


Sure sounds like you're talking about yourselves here, you two....nm
It's okay to glom on and bully down the republicans, be it the candidates or posters. But let one do it to you, and you cry foul, like the hypocrites you are.

Every description you use to define the right, sounds a lot like your libby posts. How ironic. Right in front of your nose, and you can't even see yourself.

So sorry for your small, closed mindedness.


I'm guessing you're talking about
the old fart, right? That's all he does. He doesn't care about our country. He only cares about being in power, why...I can't figure out. He'd be the second worst in history, BUSH first. Remember when you voted for BUSH? HaHaHaHa...Oh, not really. Look where we are now.
Don't have a clue what you're talking about so
Quran Surah 4: Women

Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them. 89
If the unbelievers do not offer you peace, kill them wherever you find them. Against such you are given clear warrant.

Quran Surah 5: The Table Spread
Christians will be burned in the Fire. 72

Quran Surah 6: The Cattle
Allah chooses to lead some astray, and he lays ignominy on those who disbelieve. 125
Allah will send everyone the Fire, except those he chooses to deliver. 128




Surah 9: Repentance
Don't pray for idolaters (not even for your family) after it is clear they are people of hell-fire. 113
Fight disbelievers who are near you, and let them see the harshness in you. 123


As much as Christians are harshly put down on this board, my God does not teach me to fight disbelievers, to not pray for them, to ignore idolators (not even for your family?), which would be the very ones we would want to pray for.

Also, my God does not purposefully lead people astray so he can them burn them in hell.

Basically, Muslims are taught to love other Muslims; otherwise, everyone else are nonbelievers and are not worthy of their love.

you're talking to the wrong sm --

Yes - they're already talking about the possibility
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You have no idea what you're talking about...(nm)
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You don't have a clue what you're talking about.
You obviously don't know a thing about Britain in the 1930s, when Hitler was coming into power. Britain banned Winston Churchill and wouldn't let him speak in the house of parliamant, because he was speaking the truth about what Germany was doing to the Jewish people, and they didn't want to hear it! Well, we all know what happened there!

This whole thing started with Jacqui Smith..... because of ALL the violence in Muslim neighborhoods and all the Muslim leaders in Great Britain inciting hate and violence, she was to compile lists of Muslims who incite violence around the world with a call to jihad and make sure no more of these types of people can get into Great Britain. Well, they were on the right track there until of course politics got in there and someone convinced her they didn't want to seem to have a problem with Muslims, so they thought it best to throw in a couple of white guys so it wouldn't look so "profilish".

Speaking of hate-mongers, they have lots of muslims standing in their streets threatening violence to Britain and the United States, standing right in the streets of Great Britain big as you please incisting violence. Now that Britain has realized what a mistake it is to have them in their country and just what evil people they are, they are seeking to get them out and at the very least, keep anymore from getting in their country.

Too bad they didn't go after Rev. WRight....now there's a violent man inciting hate and violence if ever I saw one!!!

Kim Jong II isn't on that list. Chavez the sicko isn't on that list.

There are British people in the streets calling for the overthrow of their own government and for good reason! Their government has turned into just what this country is turning into. Butt kissing sissies!!!

Remember Abu Izzadeen? The race hate preacher? I doubt you have a clue who I'm talking about, cause you know nothing about anything, just diarrhea of the mouth. Izzadden PRAISED the July 7 London suicide bombings in the streets, and has been freed after spending barely serving 12 months of a 4-1/2 year sentence!! I believe his words were, "The Americans and British only understand one lanuage, the language of blood". He has called for ALL UK Muslims to kill British troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. But I suppose YOU no doubt find him more appealing than Savage. Now THERE'S a hate monger...no... there's an evil human being. He now walks the streets of London again, spewing his inciteful hate and in full view trying to encourage all Muslims in London to KILL Britains and Americans.

Yep, you got it all figured out. Britiain is scared to death; their own police won't even go into Muslims neighborhoods because the violence is just THAT bad!!!

They're a bunch of sissy wimps who have now found themselves stuck with very evil people by the thousands in their own backyards and now they are regretting it!!!




Do you have any idea what you're talking about?
You sound like a blithering boob just parroting what the Huffington Post told you.

It's quite obvious you didn't check your facts, or do a moment's worth of research.




You're missing the point. She's not talking about
people like your stepdaughter. She's talking about all the free loaders who won't get off their lazy butts and get a job even when they are more than capable of doing so.

When I was little my mom struggled to feed the two of us because my dad was a deadbeat. She went to the welfare office asking for just a little help to feed us. They told her that she made too much money but if she quit her job, they would pay for everything: housing, food, everything. She could have easily taken the easy route and taken them up on their offer but had too much integrity. Here she was making too much money in their eyes but many weeks only had $5 after bills to feed herself and her only child. Now that is a messed up government. I'm all for helping people help themselves. Pay for day care while they get an education, pay for food while they work to better themselves but NOT pay for them to drive fancy cars, have satellite that they watch on big screen TVs, and eat potato chips and ice cream. Get real, open your eyes, and quit making excuses for the lazy! We're not talking about the needy. Yes, there are people are mentally or physically unable to work. That is NOT who we are talking about!
Unfortunately, you're talking to ignorant people!
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We're talking history here, not theology....nm
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So what, you're 80, 90 years old and know this? Previous poster talking about...sm
Joseph Kennedy back in the 1940s and 1950s, some 60-70 years ago, and what he did and didn't do? It's all in the history books.

Maybe Teddy is like that today and pays for nothing (doubt that, but hey, you say live there, whatever), really don't care for him much at all, what with Chappaquiddick (sp?) and all, and how daddy Kennedy got young Teddy off on murder charges on that poor girl, Mary Jane Kopechne. Daddy Kennedy called in favors for that one, too, doncha know.

It's well known how much daddy Kennedy did for JFK way back then, to get him elected. It's called history.




We're talking about a brand new baby born with Down's...there is NO comparison at all...nm
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Nope, never said I wasn't black, but I remember the argument you're talking about...sm
Nan, Military Brat and Bush supporter took me to task over whether or not I was black when I said *and who said I was black anyway* I'm trying to find this in archives.

But, what I can't stand is people having a preformed opinion about how I am going to think or should think since I'm black, that's why I don't post my race. Once I posted that I was African American that's when they started the *I thought you said you weren't black.* Which I have never denied my race. Sorry, but not true.
When McBush is talking, he isn't talking to you unless you are wealthy or CEO

 


who provides campaign funds.  Do you know why lobbyists are making the headlines?  Because they are bribing the politicians of both parties - lobbyists work for private interests (AIPAC) along with the pharmaceutical company ($280.00 for a bottle of pills?  Only in America, folks), oil industry (record profits at your expense) credit card companies and unethical banking procedures (Funny isn't it how Visa wrote the reformed BK bill, making virtually everyone end up in ch 13 (garnishing income, including SS) after raising credit limits and offering transfer balances at 0 percent to everyone with a last name and a roof over their head?  Along with mtgs that were bound to turn into bad loans when house prices dropped which they always do after a bubble.  God, I could go on and on here but I get tired.  The nation is in such trouble.  Serious serious trouble.  There is a huge loan to an unfriendly country (did you watch the Olympics?  did you ever see Bush look more uncomfortable other than during the Stephen Colbert roast during the national press conference.  lol.  


Well I want you to know what fascism.  And I want you to know that those treasury notes are backed up by the taxpayers (you) and real estate including roads and govt buildings and parks.  Have you noticed why Save-Mart Center is owned by savemart and not a community business or the community itself?  There is somethign happening slowly and surely and it is NOT going to benefit middle class america one iota.  You must know that as a poor person, you have no power, no voice.  Elections are rigged and the politicans cease to care whether you like them or not - oh wait, that has already happened. 


THINK ABOUT THIS!!!!  Your 401Ks and investments/assets are what at are stake! 


Fascist governments nationalized key industries and made massive state investments. They also introduced price controls, wage controls and other types of Soviet-style economic planning measures.[12] Property rights and private initiative were contingent upon service to the state.[13].[14] Fascists promoted their ideology as a "third way" between capitalism and Marxian socialism.[15] Fascists in Germany and Italy claimed that they opposed reactionaries, and that they were actually revolutionary political movements that fused with conservative social values.


Talking to them is talking to a brick wall.
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Yes, of course I realize
I do not wish to perseverate on this topic any more.  I have said how I feel and that I was in error. 
Yes, I realize that, but
they were Christians and lived with those principles.  They weren't fanatics, but they were faithful in their beliefs without forcing others.  I guess my point is no leader of this country is going to try to convert anybody to do anything.  But this country was based on Christian values.  That's all I am saying. 
But what you don't realize
is $250,000 is not rich. My father-in-law owns a construction business, and his business makes that much a year, but after paying insurance, employees, etc, it is not much of a profit. He has enough to own a nice home (one story, three bedrooms, two baths, nothing fancy) and a decent truck. He isn't rich by any means. He also goes out and works his butt off literally from dusk to dawn every day. At 61 years old he is still out there building houses keeping up with the young bucks he hires. Why is it fair that after 30 years of doing this he is now going to be taxed more to give to others? Mind you he already gives the shirt off his back to anyone who needs it and has done so much work for free for people in need it would make your head spin. There are many, many others out there like him that will be punished for working hard. It's not right.

I agree that companies like Exxon and Mobil should be looked into. It's not right for them to make record profits when we are struggling. It's not right for the corporations we just bailed out to be out on vacation on the money we just gave them. But those companies are making MILLIONS if not BILLIONS a year. Not a quarter of a million. Quarter of a million is small business owners. If we are so tired of the big corporations, the last thing we need to do is tax small business more. That will cause them to shut down and then all we will have to deal with is the huge corporations. If the local computer repair shops closes down, then eventually all you will have to deal with is Microsoft or Apple. And I don't know if you've dealt with them recently or at all, but they charge way more than any local shop I know and their customer service stinks. That's just one example though.

If O wants to tax someone, go after the big companies. Make the corporations we just bailed out pay back the money since they are obviously just out having a hay day with it. Don't punish small business. That's what (should) drive this country.


Do you realize........sm
that Iraq/Iran/Afganistan are in the area that is referred to as "The Cradle of Civilization?" This is the area of the world that we need to watch as I believe there will be a lot of activity there over the ensuing years.
I realize that there are only so many

words that rhyme with white, but the thing I find disturbing are the double standards.  For example, Reverend Wright (not to beat a dead horse so please forgive me) but if a white reverend said the kind of racist things he said about the black community, whoever white political figure attended that church for any amount of time would have had their career ruined.  If a church had the same values that Wright's did but you exchanged black for the word white, that church would have been labeled as a racist church....KKK....etc.  If a white reverend had given a benediction and said anything remotely like what Lowery did, not only would the race card have been thrown out, it would have been all over the news, the outrage from the black community would have been everywhere, and I'm sure a public apology would have had to have been made. 


As a younger white female, I understand the history as far as the facts go.  Did I experience it...no.  However, I have experienced racism in my own personal life with having some things done to me from a black person for no reason other than the color of my skin.  Do I judge all black people by the ones who were racist towards me....of course not.  There are good and bad in all races.  As a white person, I feel I have embraced what is right.  I treat people like I would want to be treated no matter what they look like or the color of their skin.  So to be lumped into the category Lowery lumped me into.....well...that is offensive to me. 


The comments made by black rappers and celebs saying things like....no more white lies...my president is black and using the N- word.  All very offensive to me especially to think that people use them as role models. 


And not to burst their bubble.....President Obama is half white.  So going by what they were spewing about not trusting white people and their lies....well I guess they can only trust Obama 50% of the time then since technically he is half white.  Hmm....funny how no one ever mentions his mixed race and just merely focus on the color of his skin and give him the title of a black man.


I realize that....
I saw their summer homes in Ft. Lauderdale (the size of small cities), their yachts that cost millions and millions of dollars, spit shined, with names like "Never Enough." Since this country has made them so successful, why can't they forgo their tax break to help out their gardners and maids? They have more money than they could ever spend. No resentment here. They either earned it, stole it or was married/born into it. I am sure all of their stock investments either dived or they were forewarned and bailed before the crash hit. The whole country came together and worked as a team during world war II. EVERYONE sacrificed. Now it's every man for himself. I guess we can't expect that kind of heroism of anyone in this day and age.
Wonder what it will take to get everybody else to realize this? nm
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Me too - took about a day to realize it was a lie
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If you don't realize that
the Palestinians have been used as shills by other Muslim and Arab nations to keep this 'conflict' stirred up, not much any of us can do to change your mind. 
I didn't realize they were even doing that

until I saw her post, which nobody can help but see when they try to get to the political boards.  Now she's denying doing it, so go figure, eh? 


They must be getting desperate, and remembering how they got others banned on here, if you suddenly stop seeing posts from me, you'll know they got me banned, as well.


Just in case this is the last post I'm allowed to post here, I just want to point out that in my original post above, I never once singled out a single person or poster.  I was speaking in general terms.  It was then that they started copying and pasting my posts  on theri board and posting their attacks, singling ME out and mentioning my moniker.


I'm also sorry for any trashing YOU might get from them simply because you're being nice to me.  I've noticed you're also suddenly one of their targets now.


Like I said, if you suddenly don't see my posts any more, you can just assume that history has repeated itself and that I've been banned, as well. 


I hope you have a wonderful evening wherever you are, too. 


Wondering if you realize....
that every single one of the comments you are talking about were directed at me, and there are quite a few others. Just wondering if you know how they made me genuinely feel. Just wondering.
I guess I realize that

Well, of course, you couldn't have known.  But I guess my whole point is that when we fling personal barbs amidst the political barbs we never know what or whom those arrows are hitting.  And not to say I am blameless either.  I reach a boiling point when I see certain posters picked on cruelly who (in my mind) really only have the betterment (sp?) of society and the human race at the forefront of their concerns and have gently posted those concerns on a liberal board, only to be picked apart for their belief system.  Unfortunately it seems to be human nature.


No more philosophizing here.


I realize that not everyone believes the same

And sorry to offend you but in fact the poster is a fanatic, in my opinion.


Also, it's not a FACT that Palin is a fanatic; she is a Christian.  You call her a fanatic, your opinion.


I realize that. But at that particular moment, they
Seeing as how there were standing there praying for her and all. And yes, I saw the video, and yes, they DID mention witchcraft.
Used to be a dem til I read enough to realize they
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Do you realize that all you have are excuses
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No. You are too stupid to realize when you are
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Do you realize that you are hallucinating and
fu
I realize you do. I posted under yours
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This is the part where I realize just how little
going on besides the "economy" thing that everyone has their minds wrapped around so much it doesn't allow them to see anything else and every time Obama is questioned about something he wants to sidestep, he shoots back to that horrible economy that he knows so many can't think past.

You'll just have to pay attention, dive in, and connect the dots. I'm tired of doing it for you.




I realize this is probably lost on those who don't
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I hope you realize (sm)
That anyone can post just about anything on YouTube.
Do you realize how you sound?
It does no good to call others names- it only makes you look bad. So sorry many on here so outraged because the other guy and his side-kick, whatever that person's name was from Alaska is, did not make it but we have chosen the correct leader. To say the president who left kept us safe is laughable- remember 9/11? Who was the president then? I rest my case.
You realize what your trying to reason with, right?
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It's a shame you do not realize this.....
mess cannot be swept under the rug in a matter of weeks. How can you blame Obama for this mess? He's been doing everything he can considering the obstacles he has had to face. I suppose we should do nothing? My husband is laid off, we don't have healthcare right now and I have a rare type of cancer that has no cure - you can only try to keep it at bay....my future is bright since I can't afford the chemo drugs ($6,000 per month). This stimulus plan can be compared to the bible - you can choose to interpret any way it serves your purpose/agenda. I choose to believe Obama is trying to pull us up out of this hellhole that he inherited.
What you fail to realize.....
is our leaders need to have private jets and helicopters (the helicopters, btw, were ordered by W) for their own protection. They have to fly more than one or with a squadron for protection. When they drive, it is a squadron of identical vehicles, so no one can identify which vehicle the govt personnel is riding in. We need to heal the wounds with our allies that W created. "Yur either with us or against us!" What cowboy horsesh*t. We need to restore some class to our govt - because of the crude, retarded way things were handled for the last 8 years.
you don't even realize who the majority are
You seem to fail to remember that not everyone in America voted this election.

69,456,897 people voted for the O

234,367,743 did not

I would not say the majority of America voted for him. He didn't even get 1/3 of America's votes.


Sorry! I didn't realize you had already...

posted this.  This is all very complicated, and I, too, thought it was explained in a common-sense kind of way, while still having its moments of humor.


It's more than obvious that some people want this administration to fail, no matter what, and that's very, very sad.


Sorry for the double post!! 


 


you do realize it is fiction.
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Sorry. My bad. Didn't realize
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