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Either you can't read, or you've just proved her point. Nice going.

Posted By: nm on 2009-04-12
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    LOL! I've proved it???!!

    For the last EIGHT LONG YEARS, all I've heard is, "It's CLINTON'S fault."  Now all I'm hearing, BEFORE THE MAN IS EVEN INAUGURATED, "It's OBAMA'S fault."


    If/when Obama does something to deserve "fault," you can bet I'll be one of the first to say it.  However, the man hasn't even taken his oath of office, and all the soothsayers on this board have already judged his presidency to be a failure.


    All the anti-Obama rhetoric is quickly getting old, again, BEFORE the man has even taken his oath of office.


    The people have spoken, and the majority of them voted for Obama.  Please...get used to it and at least TRY to inspire some good feelings and hope instead of whining all the time.


    This board has become a very toxic place to visit. 


    You proved your point to yourself.
    I was responding to the he original statement about white reaching minority status by 2042. I was not trying to discuss immigration policy. I stated my opinion and put out some objective facts. I'm am not overlooking the word "illegals"…just refusing to engage in myopic nationalism. Facts are facts. Whites will be outnumbered. I think it's a good thing. You don't. I don't find their presence in the country particularly disturbing. I understand the political forces at play in this issue to my own satisfaction. Personally, I think it has been a long time coming and it has arrived for reasons much more complex than the anti-immigration cult dogma found on this forum. I am very much at peace with the idea. You're not. So sue me.
    You proved my point
    he can't do both. You're too old, Go home.
    Thank you! You just proved the point with the
    voting present. That is basically what it means in the Il. state when you vote the present.
    You proved my point.
    xx
    You just proved my point.
    I love it when people are too cowardly to give themselves a name and, instead, hide under the "nm" moniker.

    You're right.

    You have absolutely NO MESSAGE.

    Pfffffft.
    Yup, you proved my point
    Guess I should have expected nothing less than a juvenile reply.

    Don't know who "Sue Ann" is. But then again I expected nothing more than in incoherent reply and that didn't surprise me either.

    Have a good one, I've heard Obama is planning to pass out lots of Kool-aid at the coronation (oh I mean innaugeration). Don't forget to get in line. Oh yes, and it's free (or so he say's, you'll just be taxed for it later).
    Umm.... I think you just proved her point.

    Actually, you just proved her/his point.
    I just stated the facts. You were the one who stooped to personal attacks. Nice going right back at you!
    your post proved my point
    My post has turned out to be a right winger nothing to attack GT fall back on that post thingy, LOL, so funny.  I love it.  Anway, isnt hell and burning in hell where xtians say we all go when we commit crimes, break the ten commandments?  Well, that is what I wish for this administration and Bush and his family.  It is obvious that is where they are headed when standing in judgment for this war.  But, hey, I get it, the old right wingy thingy, do as I say, not as I do.  The xtians can spout all the time about burning in hell but if a liberal says it, oopphhss..the worst thing in the world.  Right winger, Coulter can say liberals ought to be shot and publish plagerized books full of lies, but hey, she is a right winger, its okay, right winger, Robertson, can call for the assassination of a duly elected leader, but hey, he is a right winger, its okay.  Right wingers equals a bunch of hypocrites...  Anyway, your post to me proves my point of attacking and ranting and raving from the right wing.  *BIG HUG to ya*.
    You have just proved the point I made below

    While I don't agree with your opinion 100 percent at least you can talk to us without making anything we say personal, A.W. and Carla cannot.


    I'll agree that some had a visceral hatred of Clinton.  I never did personally.  I didn't vote for him, did not think he was a good president, but I didn't walk around everyday blaming everything bad in my life on him either.  I disliked by his personal example that he lowered the morality level in our country several notches, and yes, I do think that he should have been thrown out of office for #1) having sexual favors performed just outside the oval office by someone other than his wife, and #2) then looking in the face of every American and lying about it (#2 being the damning impeachable offense).


    At this point I haven't seen proof that Bush has done anything impeachable.  I think Bush has done some good things while in office and has also done some things I don't agree with.  However, if I support the president in any way then I'm accused of bowing down and worshipping at his feet by A.W. and Carla, and let's not forget the late-to-this-board gt.  Their reactions are way beyond the rational although it is understandable why Carla may have these strong feelings given what she's gone through this year.  I think she may be misdirecting some of her anger though.


     


    do you know what YOU PROVED MY POINT MEANS?
    IT MEANS that there is NOTHING else to say to you because you have no intelligence left to discuss with, that's the bottom line. you proved OUR point by just wanting to name call instead of having a discussion. This is so stupid we have to do this back and forth and look you ALWAYS have to have the last word... you'll probably prove my point on that one too!!!
    You just proved my point. - no message
    x
    Yes. That poster more than proved your point.

    You're reaching out to a person whose views you respect and are looking for an intelligent, adult conversation to take place.  About 95% on this board are more comfortable playing the playground bully and calling names.  Unfortunately, there's just no value to be found in their form of communication.


    Now you and I have given them the "gift" of having two more people to attack on this board.  Anyone else want to be bullied and treated badly?  Just say something even remotely nice to JTBB, and you'll be ready for the he!l they inhabit now.  It's really sad that such "Americanism" exists out there.


    Well.....you proved her point with your zinger. Sigh. nm
    nm
    You just proved my point. Still nothing positive to say about Obama.
    There you go. At least counter the argument with something positive about Obama. That is if there is anything. Otherwise its all just blowing smoke.
    We've been having nice debates over there this week
    and I know gt enough to know she couldn't be hounded of a maximum security prison shower. I personally don't command anyone to leave unless they are childish enough to start calling people losers or other names like that.
    Nice little corner they've backed themselves into...sm

    That's what happens when you become the party of NO.


    Selective memory must be nice. The point is sm
    They were on their own board.  THAT IS THE POINT.  Who cares what you think?
    YOU'VE NEVER HAD A POINT!!!
    --
    I think you've missed the point.
    Actually, marriage was originally a prearranged affair based on economics and had nothing to do with love or anything sacred. The point in the parody of the White House *Department of Faith* is that religious extremists fail at their *sacred* marriages (and many other things), yet they critize homosexuals for wanting the equal sacred AND legal protections they enjoy. The hypocrisy is that religious fanatics don't obey their own commandments and teachings of the bible (just like my right-wing reactionary cousin) and yet are ready to condemn everyone else.

    Further, your comment about homosexuals dying out because they don't procreate is just plain bizarre. Humans are animals as well and have the same basic instincts (for better and worse) so that some species mate for life as heterosexuals, others are promiscuous, AND some chimps have been studies to be sexual with members of the same gender. Evolution is vast and far-reaching. Given the overpopulation of our planet, I don't think this is something we need to worry about. You almost prove Darwin's theory....do you think homosexuals really *choose* to be homosexual? Why in the world would they want to subject themselves to the homophobia and hatred? Homosexuality was even *gasp* celebrated in ancient Greece.

    Oh yeah, and if sex is only for procreation, why do you (at least I assume you do) have a certain body part that plays no role in childbirth whatsoever and is apparently only for pleasure?
    You've missed the point, again.
    In a rush to be proven right, you missed my point once again. Yes, you can chose them all. It's call peace.

    Being pro-choice doesn't mean pro-abortion. You have chosen to speak out and act against abortion because you believe it to be against God's will. Is that ideology so different than other actions undertaken because they felt it was God's will? I don't think I need to list them for you. Most of the horrendous actions against mankind has been at the hands of other men in the name of religion. To me, this is no different.

    In so doing, you are taking part in subjugation which is against what the constitution stands for. Correct? Keep it out of the government and keep out of the courts. In needs to be kept at a social level. Educate women against it. Give the women the love and support they need to make the right choice, but you cannot and should not make it for them.

    I agree, you do need to adjust your thinking. I do not have intolerance for those who think differently, I have intolerance for those who cannot take another's opinion or perception without tearing it down. Sometimes it pays to be a better listener than a speaker. Tends to the offensive rather than the defensive which seem to be what most of your posts are.

    I am officially jumping off this carousel.
    I think you've missed the point....again..(sm)
    Believe me, we know what Rush is, that he doesn't hold any office and is simply a poor entertainment choice.  We've been saying that for years.  It's not the dems who give him more credibility than he deserves, it's the pubs.  Why else would elected republican officials have to stoop to kiss his behind and apologize for disagreeing with him, and even get fired as in the instance above?  The dems have no misconceptions about Rush's role.  We just find it amusing that the pubs can't seem to figure it out.
    This is by far the best post I've ever read
    And it's 100% true, too.
    I've read too much about this package

    and it will not help the people that need help.  It doesn't provide help to the regular "joe's" out there that need help. It is all about the greed again. Most of it will only help regular "joe's" by the year 2011, not now.  By that time, we will either be down the tubes or everything will have corrected itself on its own.


    I don't think government should meddle in ways to try to turn the economy around. It only mkes it worse. Look at all the handouts in the first stimulus package. Did the regular "joe's" get any help out of it? Nope. It will be the same with this one. Did you see Glen Beck's breakdown on the package posted below? If not, I suggest you look at it or else I can post it here.


    It goes to show that the democrats don't give a darn about us, just their agenda even though 11 democrats voted against it. That has to say something.  Evidently, the democrats (and I don't mean this harshly) didn't get enough calls from their constiuents to knock this package into oblivion. They were in a hurry to pass it? Why? Not because it would help us, but because they wanted it passed before anyone really got a chance to see what it entailed.


    Sorry, but I disagree with you whole heartedly. This will not help. It will only hurt. This will take our dollars down to zero and the next thing you know, we will be taking wheelbarrows of money to the store to buy a loaf of bread if you can even find it in the stores.


     


     


     


    That's probably the most ignorant post I've read in a while
    Please consider re-reading your post and see if you truly think you have done *any* real research.

    Example: Giving our money to countries (who hate us anyway)? Please give that a rest. We "give away" a pittance to countries who need it while often RAPING their resources (Africa being a great example). And we ship BILLIONS to Israel - why do they need to be subsidized by the US? THINK about it before you answer.

    As a matter of fact THINK about a lot of your comments - like the ridiculous notion that we would ROB the rich to pay the poor. You clearly don't get Obama's message of empathy my friend - but more importantly your comments about this and welfare are just not FACTUAL.

    When I read posts like this I am more sad than I am when I look at the current crop of corrupt politicians who want us to vote them into the whiteouse in November.

    Example: Obama says he wans to stop nuclear proliferation! WHAT A JOKE. OUR #1 EXPORT is weapons of mass destruction.

    How do you stop proliferation when you are the world's biggest supplier?


    Best description of the Samunist I've read yet.

    This post is truly one of the most digusting I've read
    And there have been lots of them. "John McCain has broken up a lot of marriage?" Oh please, show me the proof. Give me the names of the marriages he broke up.

    Once again another lame attempt at the liberals trying to paint an untrue picture of reality.

    And can you be any more disgusting in your "glee filled" description. Anyone can make up anything and make one side look worse than the other, and that's what this looks like. Although I do have to say it's a poor attempt.

    I know you think Obama is the second coming of Christ, but please don't spread your malicious rumors and lies. Is it not enough you don't like McCain and don't want him to win, that's fine and that's your perogative, but to put up an absolute piece of trash post like this shows just how low and disgusting the dems will go.

    As for checking out someones butt???? You are truly a piece of work. A lot of times I will be in line and looking down towards someone's butt but it doesn't mean "I'm checking them out".

    As for this post - what goes around comes around.
    I've listened, watched and read
    about as much as anyone and I believe the 95% applies to people who PAY taxes.  Common sense.......how can you give someone a reduction in taxes who doesn't pay taxes.  Nonsense.
    That's the most sensible thing I've read on this board
    in a looooong time.  Why should somebody who works hard (or inherits) for their money have to pay more taxes than someone who makes (or inherits) less money.  Everybody paying the same - that is equality. 
    First time I've read that quote...scary (nm)

    Thank you - the wisest thing I've read yet today
    I keep posting there are bad and good on both sides. Neither side is perfect. There are a lot of democrats I agree with and I think they are right on (Kucinich, Richardson, and others in the senate). Actually there are more democrats I agree with than I would rather admit to. HA HA, but there are some I absolutely do not agree with (Pelosi, Reid, Clinton and others). On the other side there are some republicans I agree with (Ron Paul and others, can't think of any others right now just cos I'm so tired) and those that I think really stink (Bush at the top of them), but unless we get on this board praising Obama and every single democrat and cut down and destroy every republican, we will get bashed over and over. I have said many times there are good and bad on both sides and if people are going to follow the group think and not think for themselves, well that's when they lose a part of their sense. My mom is a great one. I don't know how many arguments I will have with her. She hates Bush so much with such a vengence she has come right out and said what she want to happen. "He's a liar, he's this, I don't have any money because of Bush, etc, etc. But the minute I say to her If you want to talk about liars lets hit on Clinton, or lets talk about what Obama said. Ohhhh no, can't do that. I was also told by her "If you know what is good for you, you'll stop saying those bad things about him". I asked her what exactly does that mean and she said I just better watch it. Then I said to her, well how can you say what you say about Bush but I tell you I disagree about something Obama said and your ready to report me to the authorities. Funny how someone mysteriously happened to be knocking on her door at that moment and she had to leave (btw, I didn't hear anything in the background and her phone is in the halway near her front door). So unless people will admit when they are wrong there will always be arguments.
    Read this closely. You've confused me with other posters.
    And you jump on me like I'm the other poster(s) that you were railing about.

    Geez, at least try to address the correct poster when you go on your rants.

    It's very unbecoming.


    Well, I've heard and read he's a pretty rough character
    much less a peace prize candidate. In all seriousness, enlighten me as to what he's done to deserve a peace prize? I can only assume it's because of his socialistic practices that seem to now be a pre-requisite for being a peace prize candidate...
    Now THAT's the smartest thing I've read in a long time! nm

    East Ohio Gas has been using natural gas to fuel their utility trucks for years - why hasn't that caught on?  Makes ya wonder..............


    Do I need some kind of motive to post what I thought was a good read..and your point is..
    xx
    You just proved how clueless you are
    Are your paranoid or have you been drinking again?  I love confusing liberals, but then it's not too hard to do.
    you do know, proved by your posts below.
    nm
    Geez. Well, just proved that the bottom of the barrel...
    had not been reached until just now. What a nasty, sick comment.
    Radical relationships proved or hear say?

    Unless you're talking about preacher Wright?  I am beginning to wonder why that is not an issue since John Mccain is so righteous.


    Yep, sitting in Rev Wright's church sure proved that
    @@
    I think BB has a point here in that the main point on the board is political discussion, and let'
    face it, there is SO MUCH going on right now, changes, problems, disasters, and so much debate on what should/could be done, but so many tims the political discussion disintegrates in a finger-pointing, name-calling exercise, spouting religion all over the place. Yeah, our spiritual beliefs are dearly held and we would all strive to be the best we can be, and do whatever we can whatever the ideology is, but sometimes I wonder, since we have a board EXPRESSLY for Faith isuues, where relgious debates/discussions/forums, etc are welcome, why does THIS board have to be turned into RELIGION BOARD PART II, especially if one ideology wants to dominate or ridicule/condemn those who come on here for lively inteligent discussion, debate of issues in Congress and in our lives, and just want their beliefs held separately? CNN is not EWTN or any other Christian network, and there are constant informative, bright, lively, balanced discussions from all over the political spectrum on the credentialed news stations, as well as C-Span, but they are not constantly hiding behind a cross, rosary, bible, star of David, or whatever....can we not strive to do the same and put religious debate on the Faith board?? Just a thought to ponder, MHO, it might work beter, who knows?
    is the the starting point or the end point for the middle class?
    x
    Can't chew gum. Would've if I could've.

    Even got hypnotized. Supposedly guaranteed to quit. Lasted 5 hours. Thank heavens I never smoked anything stronger.


    This looks interesting. A long read, so will read it when I get home from work. nm
    nm
    Obviously u didnt read, I said NONE of them are moral. Read the post before spouting off.

    I answered your post point-by-point and
    all you can come up with is a lame tit-for-tat? Can you provide some sort of substantive response that would argue against the point I am trying to make here? Of course not.

    Please show me what part of my post reflects bigotry or ignorance? I have made a few statements based on my own life experience, rather than the hook-line-and-sinker method of forming my world view. Then the impotence of your suicide bomber reference was buried under concrete evidence of informed, researched and factual data that would suggest an oppressed, occupied, half-starved population does not have the upper hand when it comes to defending themselves against Israel's US-bankrolled arsenal of pain, misery, death and destruction. They are just a tad out-gunned, wouldn't you say?
    I answered your post point-by-point and
    all you can come up with is a lame tit-for-tat? Can you provide some sort of substantive response that would argue against the point I am trying to make here? Of course not.

    Please show me what part of my post reflects bigotry or ignorance? I have made a few statements based on my own life experience, rather than the hook-line-and-sinker method of forming a world view. Then the impotence of your suicide bomber reference was buried under concrete evidence of informed, researched and factual data that would suggest an oppressed, occupied, half-starved population does not exactly have the upper hand when it comes to defending themselves against Israel's US-bankrolled arsenal of pain, misery, death and destruction they employ in order to "secure" themselves.

    The Palestinians are just a tad out-gunned, wouldn't you say? This might just account for the lop-sided fatalities/injuries ratios between the Israelis and the Palestinians. In closing, it is worth noting that even with the advantage of all those terrorist toys and tools our tax dollars have bestowed upon them, security and peace of mind just seem to be further and further beyond their reach. Wonder why that is?
    I read on CNN (yes, I do read liberal stuff too..hehe)...sm
    ...that Karl Rove was actually very disappointed in the McCain campaign for airing negative type ads against Obama.

    So I would say that Rove is definitely not in the hip pocket of the McCain campaign.
    Good research sam - but a lot to read right now so gotta read it later
    I've been goofing off too much from work. I appreciate what you wrote and will read when I'm done with work here.
    Not nice.
    Of course conservatives are wrong.  And often.  I am one, so I should know.  What I am NOT is a neocon.  That word gets used a lot here and it is used incorrectly.   I am not the original poster but I wanted to point that out.