Even Obama's dems are turning on him right

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Wouldn't you say the mindset of the young depends on the conditions and need for the war?  That is what I was alluding to.  In condemning this generation with their lack of morals you are also condemning soldiers in Iraq, I assume?  My belief is that if this country ever found itself in a dire situation that our young people would respond as needed.  Call me an optimist.  I cannot condemn a whole generation based on my version of what is moral and what isn't.  I would say sending soldiers to die in an unnecessary war is immoral.  Lack of care for our country's poor and sick is immoral.  Little kids starving in our country is immoral.  Our treatment of minorities and your condemntation of all liberals is immoral.  I believe that not only is abortion immoral, but many other things, too.  You may also blindly support our military, no matter what it is sent to do.  I don't.  I'm not a fool.  I would not have supported our military slaughtering hundreds of thousands of Native Americans in the 1800s, or supporting the slavery trade indirectly.  I would have applauded and supported any soldier who went AWOL, any demonstration against this military action.  Unlike you.

But you see, I have common sense.  I cannot argue or debate with  someone who doesn't have it.  You have a blinding anger toward Democrats and liberals.  You have no use for the truth.   I am sure this is not the first time you have been told this.

The rest of your post is so twisted and lacking common sense, even to insulting a person for reading books (heavens, we wouldn't want to educate ourselves -- another fear of the conservative posters) that it isn't worth my time to answer.

Please read Lurker's post.  You will deny it's accuracy, I'm sure.

As far as Ann Coulter, someone posted that the liberals had written and said terrible things also.  Indeed they have.  But Ann's article was posted on the conservative board as a fine and shining example of conservative wit and intelligence.  In reality, it was one of the smuttiest and sickening things I have read in a long time.  I don't recall any liberal posters crowing over such liberal trash on this board.  They seem to be a pretty moral group over all, and a group that's got a lot of common sense, most of all.

You have a need to twist and turn the truth and you appear to have little common sense or ability to see the big picture as far as humanity is concerned.  This may explain why you appear to have little to do with your time other than post incessantly and lengthily on a board where you are only interested in passive-aggressive attacks under the pretense of "trying to understand." 

As far as your post where you perseverate to almost a frightening degree regarding my comment on your "rightwing rags" -- you know exactly what I'm referring to.  Just your comment alone about all the soldiers supporting the war and your questioning the poster about where they heard that some soldiers do not support this war --- that's a prime example.  A year or two ago when you'd post you'd simply cut and paste lengthy quotes from those right-wing publications I refer to. 

Don't know why I'm having to tell you this.  I'm having to play your game and that's not a good idea as your rules aren't fair, or truthful some of the time.

Funny how people like to apply today's current political issues to 25 year ago.  Are you old enough to remember our relations with Iran around 1979 and 1980?  The Ayatollah took over and during the 80s they expressed an interest in obtaining nuclear weapons.  So, we had to choose the lesser of 2 evils, Iraq.  You know, last time I checked the world has been fresh out of crystal balls for a very long time.  You like to live in a hindsight is 20/20 world. 

This really confuses me.  It's my understanding that the Dems STILL haven't taken over.  They need 60 in the Senate in order to prevent a fillibuster, and as I write this, the Republicans (still in control) are threatening to fillibuster the proposed auto maker bailout/loan legislation.  Since the Democrats DO NOT have the majority they need, the Republicans may very well do that.

So please explain to me how the Democrats are in control because I keep seeing this and truly don't understand how that is.

Not trying to start an argument or stir anything up.  I truly don't "get it."

like Bill being interviewed a lot.  LOL!  He is rather obvious that he is only saying Obama because he is following his political party and that he truly doesn't want Obama as president. 

Oh well....for whatever reason Bill said what he did.....it is still nice to hear someone admiring both candidates, saying they are both ready to be president, and not cutting down one party or the other. It was a nice change for once.

They fight and carry on just as much as the pubs. They are like children, too. Don't forget, they put a lot of pork in these bills and then cry when the pubs vote against it.

No matter what you say, neither party is working for the people. It's time to vote them all out.

all these Obama supporters just sweep that under a rug.  They continue to point fingers and blame others and yet they will take no responsibility at all for what they did.  They will not give McCain credit for his warning.  They will not admit that they ignored that warning.  I'm tired of the media having their nose up Obama's ars.  They call McCain a coward for wanting to postpone the debate when it was McCain who was pushing for the debate before until this and now he wants to be in Washington to help find a solution.  He wants to put the country first instead of his own personal campaign.  To me...this says a lot about McCain and yet the dems and the media can do nothing but downgrade.  How in the world are we to have a fair election when the media is so obviously one-sided?

At this point, I really don't know that any candidate can get us out of this mess.  I guess I've just lost hope all around.  As for all those so-called plans Barry Obama promised.....he can't do a one of them....not that they would have worked in the first place but now it is impossible for him to even try.  So now what, Barry?  What else are you going to promise you will do that you can't deliver on?

Oh, I know all about her.  First it was sad to me that voters don't do their homewordk and just believe what literally any politician tells them just because they're R or D.  Savage really educates his audience on the San Franfricko "values" and how horribly corrupt they are out there.  Take the Bologna case, where the illegal aliens/gang members who killed this poor woman's husband and 2 sons all in one sweep.  There's just one example of the sanctuary city thing for ya. 

The best way to educate people is to play their own words back for all to hear.  That way I make my point and am not accused of being a right-wing hack.

By the same token, I've been literally wailing over Olympia Snow (snot job), Susan Collins, etc...the queen RINOS.  They don't belong in the GOP and they need a royal flush.  Hagel finally retired, fortunately.

The drivebys are so complicit in this crap, too.  If we put out such a horrible product (like a report with only a small portion of the situation, or twisted it completely around), we'd be fired.  These people work for us and only answer to their NE lib journalism pals.  There are so many facets to this zirconia it's criminal.

stupid, when in fact she is very savvy — as demonstrated by her negotiations with the oil companies, pushing through a gas pipeline, etc. She is a lady of many accomplishments, unlike the Dem’s PRESIDENTIAL candidate, the big O ( as in ZERO).

Governor Sarah Palin made history on Dec. 4, 2006, when she took office. As the 11th governor of Alaska, she is the first woman to hold the office.

Since taking office, her top priorities have been resource development, education and workforce development, public health and safety, and transportation and infrastructure development.

Under her leadership, Alaska invested $5 billion in state savings, overhauled education funding, and implemented the Senior Benefits Program that provides support for low-income older Alaskans. She created Alaska’s Petroleum Systems Integrity Office to provide oversight and maintenance of oil and gas equipment, facilities and infrastructure, and the Climate Change Subcabinet to prepare a climate change strategy for Alaska.

During her first legislative session, Governor Palin’s administration passed two major pieces of legislation - an overhaul of the state’s ethics laws and a competitive process to construct a gas pipeline.

Governor Palin is chair of the Interstate Oil and Gas Compact Commission, a multi-state government agency that promotes the conservation and efficient recovery of domestic oil and natural gas resources while protecting health, safety and the environment. She was recently named chair of the National Governors Association (NGA) Natural Resources Committee, which is charged with pursuing legislation to ensure state needs are considered as federal policy is formulated in the areas of agriculture, energy, environmental protection and natural resource management. Prior to being named to this position, she served as co-chair of this committee.

Prior to her election as governor, Palin served two terms on the Wasilla City Council and two terms as the mayor/manager of Wasilla. During her tenure, she reduced property tax levels while increasing services and made Wasilla a business friendly environment, drawing in new industry.

She has served as chair of the Alaska Conservation Commission, which regulates Alaska’s most valuable non-renewable resources: oil and gas. She was elected by her peers to serve as president of the Alaska Conference of Mayors. In this role, she worked with local, state and federal officials to promote solutions to the needs of Alaska’s communities.

The bottom line is that she is running for VP.  Obama is running for president and his own running mate said he didn't have enough experience.