Excellent post. Thanks, Lurker.

Fear and ignorance.  The only way Bush knows how to lead.

• Visualize this scenario. - Lurker
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The following is Lurker's post from the conservative board in response to a comment about a extremist liberal blogger.  Funny how the writer of the article on Maryscott O'Connor say she's angry, but I'm sure he thinks Ann Coulter is just spitting the truth.   But I agree with you Lurker. Much better things to expend energy on than extremist on either side. 

Great post!  I thought the people who just frequent the liberal board would like this.

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LURKER:  In this time of real crises, many many many real crises, why would some woman's blog be of importance to anyone other than those who frequent it? This type of venting and ranting has been going on for quite some time on talk radio and now in blogs, on both sides. I just don't listen to any of it, right or left.  One of my biggest pet peeves is screaming and degrading rhetoric, from anyone, about anything.  Who cares what this woman does, or Cindy Sheehan or the ever popular #1 offender Michael Moore. These are individuals expressing their freedom of speech just as Rush, Grover and Coulter do.  Just turn it off.

Of concern to me is outsourcing, the bond we are building with China (how can our administration tout Christianity and do business with those who murder their own people over religion, who force abortions, who plan parenthood better than anyone I have ever heard of, limiting births to 1 child, promoting abortion if that 1 child is a girl and on and on.

Of concern to me is Wal-Mart for many reasons, but on the China note, Wal-Mart gets 70% of its products from China. The other 30% come from 70 different countries, some of whom have oppressive dictatorships and harbor terrorists like the Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia. Wal-Mart lobbied to NOT have goods go through additional safety measures at ports of entry because it would cut into their profit margin.

I am concerned that fewer and fewer people have health insurance or jobs or homes and will never have a home or afford insurance even if they manage to find a job.

I am concerned that this administration touts its Christianity while treating the least of its people so shabbily.

I am concerned that generals are speaking out about the inefficacy of this war and the stubborn refusal of Bush or Rumsfeld to do anything about it.

I am concerned that this administration is even thinking of going into Iran.

I am concerned that so many of our elected officials are involved in lies, coverups and that CEOs of corporations can steal the pensions of hundreds of people and don't have to pay it back...5 or 6 people go to country club prison for a couple of years, brush up on their tennis game  and 100s of 50+ people have lost everything and they don't have time to make it up, (nor should they have to).

 I am concerned that people all over our planet are dying from starvation and dehydration and disease.

I am concerned about what we have done to our own planet over the last 150 years in terms of depleting our resources.

I am concerned about this administration using Christianity as a reason to behave so un-Christianly. I believe that were Christ to sit in on a couple of cabinet meetings He would be appalled. There is the Bible cherry-picking...they can quote whatever serves them but dismiss what does not. What happened to every 50 years the wealth is redistributed amongst the people, every 7 years debts are forgiven. Who deleted or amended the 10 commandments. Thou shalt not kill...except when blah blah blah. Though shalt not steal....except blah, blah blah. If there was any thread continuing throughout the gospel of Christ it is the treatment of the poor. In the end we will be judged not on our military brilliance, our power or money but on how we, as a nation, treated the least among us.

Most of all I am concerned about apathy.

There is much to worry about and pray about and much still that can be done.  I just do not see blogs as up there in the top 2,000.

I couldn't agree more with everything you wrote.  I hope you keep writing posts like this.  It's one of the reasons I keep visiting this board.

Hope is something that's been lost for some of us for almost a decade now. 

I admit that I'd lost mine, but now I do somewhat have it back.  I want to keep it, and that depends on MY actions and the actions of other Americans who also believe in hope.

I think yesterday's plane wreck in New York into the Hudson River is an excellent example of what truly patriotic Americans do when faced with a deadly situation, and it makes me seriously wonder what some on this board would have done if faced with the same situation.

WE need to change this country if we want change.  We will soon have a President who actually knows "we" exist and that not all Americans are billionaires.  We will have a President who can easily tell you how many homes he owns.  We will have a President who will treat the rest of the world as if they are human beings, certainly something they haven't felt in the last eight years and the main reason why the USA was so hated under Bush. 

It was "us" who voted Obama into office.  I'm (hesitantly) hopeful and happy, and I'm glad I was one of "us," because from what I read on this board, being one of "them" must be a very sad and dreary existence.

Either way, we are ALL Americans, so we can all either get together and help make this country a better place, or some of us can just continue to moan and groan and complain about how bad things will be under a President who has yet to even be sworn in.

I never complained about Bush until he did things to deserve it.  The same with Clinton (and, yes, I DID complain a lot about Clinton's actions which I felt were very disrespectful to the Office of the President).  I will not complain about Obama UNTIL I truly have something to complain about.

He will be the first black American President, and as such, he has a much higher burden to haul than any white guy if there is ever to be a second black American President. 

I'm willing to give him the chance. 

You nailed it again!!! 

"Insults in, insults out."  You nailed it.

Earlier today, I finally got sick and tired of all the insults, and I started firing back.

Then I realized that I had sunk down to their slimy level and became someone I normally am not.

I think if religion is removed from the Politics Board and is put where it belongs, on the Faith Board, this might be a more meaningful place to discuss political ideas.

However, for me, it's become too toxic of a place.  I can't believe these self-described "Christians" harbor so much hatred and rage.  It's really quite frightening at times because I'm not sure there's a limit to what they are willing to do to get their way and overturn the will of the American people.

I think I'm much better off leaving this board for a while and letting the goodness and happiness of life flow back into me because each time I visit here, it really brings me down.

I feel sorry for these people.  I hope they someday can look into their hearts and souls and feel some happiness and joy.  You are right that their hatred isn't contagious, but neither is joy and happiness.  That has to come from within, and I suppose, with all the rage and hate they possess, there just isn't enough room for goodness and light to enter.

Your posts are great.  Please keep posting.  As for me, I just can't take this hatred any more and need (at least) a break. 

Liberals run in tolerant circles.  The thought of others letting them *get away* with their own personal freedom of speech doesn't even occur to them.  They don't demand that every single American follow in step and say the *right* words...or else.  They promote truth and honesty and detest dirty tricks and lies that are designed to benefit the rich, while the poor work harder and get poorer.

I remember once upon a time when people like that were called Americans!

And 100% accurate.  I was reading the same posts you were reading.  Anything -- and I mean ANYTHING -- they could do to obstruct, they did, just as the Congressional Republicans are doing now.

Obama has kept his word about bipartisanship and has tried to include the Republicans -- meeting with them several times -- but it's a waste of time because they're more interested in obstructing everything Obama does instead of working together with him.

It seems as if some Republican governors are at least giving Obama a chance and trying to work together with him, or at least the Republican governors who care about the citizens they govern do.  I think most people can see the pathetic tantrums thrown by Congressional Republicans for what it is.

As far as Bush, I never voted for him, but I wasn't against him, either, at first.  In fact, the day he stood in that rubble at "Ground Zero" with that megaphone, I actually began to respect him.

However, that was short lived because once I realized that he was incapable of telling the truth, I lost any trust for him that I had had.  It was his ACTIONS that made me feel that way, not his party affiliation.

The PALPABLE hatred for Obama is overwhelming on this board and has been since well before the election.

(Obama now has the same powers that Bush had.  Perhaps THAT'S the problem!)  

I can't stop laughing and emailed this to everyone I know, as well as added it to my favorites.

This is priceless!  Thanks. 

Now THERE'S a post full of kindness, understanding, tolerance, and love.  I wish there were more people like you in this country right now.  I was starting to feel very angry and in the midst of letting them drag me down to their level, but your post just lifted me up from all that (even sans the beads).  You must be very proud of your heritage.  I would love to learn more about it.

Thank you again for your post.

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This was a great read and sums up very well the impression Ann Coulter has given me of herself and her so-called values.