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First of all blacks AND whites live in Harlem

Posted By: you only want to start trouble on 2008-11-12
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The ignorant comments you refer to came directly out of Harlem and was played for anyone and everyone to hear. Did you not hear the comments made by citizens there? Don't call others names if you don't know what we're talking about.


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    More blacks are in prision because more blacks are poor in this country...sm
    If you can't afford a get out of jail free card, you spend the time.

    The legal system is a poor excuse. If you have money you can buy your way out. If not you're screwed. This is not even a black or white issue, except that most blacks can't afford to pay off the legal system.
    You betcha, and he sent his reporter to Harlem...
    to ask the questions. I found it very interesting that not one person knew anything about Obama but his name and his race. Pretty telling.
    Harlem dumbells is an unacceptable racist comment
    I certainly have not made racist comments. How dare you. "anybody would have" referred to Harlem Dumbells... you know that means dumb blacks and that is racist.
    Yup, there are some whites who will
    vote for McCain just because Obama is black, but don't presume to think all whites are like that.
    Whites to be in the minority by 2042

    WASHINGTON — White people will no longer make up a majority of Americans by 2042, according to new government projections. That's eight years sooner than previous estimates, made in 2004.


    The nation has been growing more diverse for decades, but the process has sped up through immigration and higher birth rates among minority residents, especially Hispanics.


    It is also growing older.


    "The white population is older and very much centered around the aging baby boomers who are well past their high fertility years," said William Frey, a demographer at the Brookings Institution, a Washington think tank.


    "The future of America is epitomized by the young people today. They are basically the melting pot we are going to see in the future."


    The Census Bureau Thursday released population projections through 2050, based on rates for births, deaths and immigration. They are subject to big revisions, depending on immigration policy, cultural changes and natural or manmade disasters.


    The U.S. has nearly 305 million people today. The population is projected to hit 400 million in 2039 and 439 million in 2050.


    That's like adding all the people from France and Britain, said Steve A. Camarota, director of research at the Center for Immigration Studies, a Washington group that advocates tighter immigration policies.
    White non-Hispanics make up about two-thirds of the population, but only 55 percent of those younger than 5.


    By 2050, whites will make up 46 percent of the population and blacks will make up 15 percent, a relatively small increase from today. Hispanics, who make up about 15 percent of the population today, will account for 30 percent in 2050, according to the new projections.


    Asians, which make up about 5 percent of the population, are projected to increase to 9 percent by 2050.


    The population 85 and older is projected to more than triple by 2050, to 19 million.


    I think whites will be a minority before too long. nm
    nm
    I am not afraid of a black man raised by whites. sm
    Flame away, but.....What I AM afraid of is people who cannot see the forest for the trees, those who are so bamboozled by his smoke and mirrors and snake oil, how this "black man raised by whites" is going to pay for all the pie-in-the sky promises he is making. We all know socialized medicine does not work. Look at all the Canadians coming here for their medical procedures etc. How much money can he take from the "have's" to give to the "have not's?" So if I make over $250K, then I have to give money to somebody who doesn't work and will never work? And don't even get me started on his stand on the abortion issue. Conversely, McCain does not have all the answers either. I don't know who would or who does, but I do know this: It is not Obama.


    No women/no non-whites - It's cultural baggage. How about a mixed ethnicity candidate?

    Would like to see Obama, at least as a vice-presidential possibility. 


    As diverse as America is - still pretty racist deep-down (and misogynistic).  We need to become more color-blind as well as able to accept that women can be strong powerful leaders also. 


    Any of you live in the midwest? Just in case you live down the road from me...

    I live in Wisconsin and am often also in Minnesota.


    No, I'm not a stalker or a weirdo (my opinion, anyway).


    Yeah, tell me again how liberals want to live and let live....what a joke!!!! nm
    why not just tell the truth? That only extends to liberals.*I have had it with Republicans...* a whole group of people tossed out like garbage. *I will not respond to your posts nor read them.*

    As to Ann Coulter...the left has their share..Michael Moore, AL Franken...do you ever look at your own party?

    That is the most INtolerant post I have seen here in a LONG time.

    Liberals true colors always come out...regardless of how much they say they are the MOST tolerant, and want EVERYone to live and let live...everyone if you happen to be liberal.

    We are all Americans...and America is about debate. Tell me, liberal Democrat, again how you care about ALL Americans. Talk about ringing hollow.
    more blacks in prison...why?
    Your post is a racist post.  Tell me, why do blacks make up the majority in prison?  Could it be bad cops sending innocent black people to prison..you bet..could it be no opportunites for blacks, you bet..Your statement trying to defend Bennetts undefensible comments make me wonder.
    Blacks in Alaska.......
    Well, I have several long-time very close friends who have lived in Alaska for 28+ years. My best friend married a native Alaskan. That conversation did come up one time and you know what her husband told me (this is a man who worked on the north slope for dozens of years). He said the blacks in Alaska are some of the most hard working people he has ever met. Blacks and whites work alongside one another on the slope and other hard jobs. He said many blacks came to Alaska to get higher paying jobs. The comments he would hear would be how they detested their black relatives/friends who sat on their butts and took government (taxpayer)handouts and used their color as an excuse not to better themselves. Their children all went to school together, played together, and helped one another. He also told us that a close friend of his who was from black/Alaskan heritage had told him he couldn't understand with all the advantages his generation and those still to come have, why they don't take advantage of them and why they continue to kill one another in gangs and spend so much time hating one another and "whites", blaming whites for all their problems. Now, this comes from a black man in Alaska. He said many of his friends came up after he suggested they could find higher paying jobs. They were hard working people who just wanted a better life and they refused to raise their children thinking they had to have handouts and they didn't want them "around" other blacks who were drug pushing and calling each other the "n" word in their schools. It wasn't the Republican whites they were trying to get away from. By the way, he thought social programs were a joke!! He felt social programs were one of the biggest problems in black society and that they encouraged handouts and free rides without offering a solution.

    I have several black neighbors and we are in the south, that will not hesitate to tell you they "hate" social programs, they are sick and tired of paying for them, and suggest those that like them so much be the only ones who pay for them. They are hard working people like us who want to actually keep their money. One couple put two of their daughters through medical school without a single social program in their lives. They detest being taxed to pay for all these social programs when we can see in our own communities they are just unjustified, just throwing more money into a big pit.

    Now, I'm not sure where you get your info from, but all republicans are not white...matter of fact the above mentioned blacks vote republican and think the democrats are the problem for the plight of the black man. Keep giving them handouts and making them believe they "need" help, can't do without the government, can't make their own decisions, and you will have nothing but a welfare state before long.

    Rich republicans don't pay taxes? Who in the h*ll do you think pay for all those social programs now.....you? The 1% of rich republicans as you put it are the ones in the highest tax brackets, pay the most taxes, and fund the greatest majority of your social programs. Taxation is relevant to your income, not your political party. You make more, you pay more in taxes. How do you think they made more money....it fell from the skies? Yes, there are those who inherit a lot of money and have done nothing to deserve it (even though those they inherited it from worked their butts off for it), but in a free country, they are free to inherit it if it is given to them. I don't feel negative towards them for that. And there are those who have made fortunes from hard work, not coming home at 5, and have pretty much given up any life of their own to succeed to the level they feel they want to be. You say rich like it's a bad word. Should we fault people for being hard working and succeeding financially in life and making more than us? I know people who have lots of money and they have sacrificed a LOT to get there.

    I feel pretty certain if you had lots of money you would certainly lavish it on your children. That would be your right. And you probably wouldn't want it taken from you to give to everyone else when you can make the decision to donate/give as you see fit.

    Our government, however, feels they have the right to have death taxes, which by the way, Whoopie Goldberg, detests and thinks that is wrong (she's black and rich)and why does she think that's wrong? Because she wants to give her wealth to her family when she dies and that's how it should be, without government interference. They have no right to take it....they didn't make it. I don't hear her jumping on the bandwagon saying TAKE MY MONEY, PLEASE, and give it to anyone you want and pay for hundreds of social programs with it. After all, she made it and should give to those as she sees fit, not as our government sees fit. Matter of fact, I don't hear any rich blacks screaming take my money. I hear some of them backing Obama and say they believe in what he wants for this country, but they just don't want to pay for what he wants. Make up your mind...can't have it both ways!
    Well, for ACORN it is about race....the more blacks
    The blacks that have been truthful have spoken out and said that the corrupt group ACORN has PUSHED them to vote for Obama, telling them how much better their lives would be, etc., etc., and they will get a big 'ole check every month, courtesy of the hard working folks. And all they gotta do is sign on the dotted line. These are black people speaking out because they know something is very wrong with this picture.

    Too bad the O lovers don't see anything wrong with this picture.
    Current-day blacks are not slaves and never were.
    nm
    Why blacks voted for Prop 8

    Interesting column from the Times, written by a black. I bring this here just as a matter of interest. I found it to be quite interesting.


    Op-Ed Columnist
    Gay Marriage and a Moral Minority
    By CHARLES M. BLOW
    Published: November 29, 2008



    We now know that blacks probably didn’t tip the balance for Proposition 8. Myth busted. However, the fact remains that a strikingly high percentage of blacks said they voted to ban same-sex marriage in California. Why?


    There was one very telling (and virtually ignored) statistic in CNN’s exit poll data that may shed some light: There were far more black women than black men, and a higher percentage of them said that they voted for the measure than the men. How wide was the gap? According to the exit poll, 70 percent of all blacks said that they voted for the proposition. But 75 percent of black women did. There weren’t enough black men in the survey to provide a reliable percentage for them. However, one can mathematically deduce that of the raw number of survey respondents, nearly twice as many black women said that they voted for it than black men.


    Why? Here are my theories:


    (1) Blacks are much more likely than whites to attend church, according to a Gallup report, and black women are much more likely to attend church than black men. Anyone who has ever been to a black church can attest to the disparity in the pews. And black women’s church attendance may be increasing.


    According to a report issued this spring by Child Trends, a nonprofit research center, weekly church attendance among black 12th graders rose 26 percent from 1993 to 2006, while weekly church attendance for white 12th graders remained virtually flat. In 2006, those black teenagers were nearly 50 percent more likely to attend church once a week than their white counterparts. And it is probably safe to assume that many of them were going to church with their mothers since Child Trends reported that around the time that they were born, nearly 70 percent of all black children were born to single mothers.


    (2) This high rate of church attendance by blacks informs a very conservative moral view. While blacks vote overwhelmingly Democratic, an analysis of three years of national data from Gallup polls reveals that their views on moral issues are virtually indistinguishable from those of Republicans. Let’s just call them Afropublicrats.


    (3) Marriage can be a sore subject for black women in general. According to 2007 Census Bureau data, black women are the least likely of all women to be married and the most likely to be divorced. Women who can’t find a man to marry might not be thrilled about the idea of men marrying each other.


    Proponents of gay marriage would do well to focus on these women if they want to win black votes. A major reason is that black women vote at a higher rate than black men. In the CNN national exit poll, there were 40 percent more black women than black men, and in California there were 50 percent more. But gay marriage advocates need to hone their strategy to reach them.


    First, comparing the struggles of legalizing interracial marriage with those to legalize gay marriage is a bad idea. Many black women do not seem to be big fans of interracial marriage either. They’re the least likely of all groups to intermarry, and many don’t look kindly on the black men who intermarry at nearly three times the rate that they do, according to a 2005 study of black intermarriage rates in the Wisconsin Law Review. Wrong reference. Don’t even go there.


    Second, don’t debate the Bible. You can’t win. Religious faith is not defined by logic, it defies it. Instead, decouple the legal right from the religious rite, and emphasize the idea of acceptance without endorsement.


    Then, make it part of a broader discussion about the perils of rigidly applying yesterday’s sexual morality to today’s sexual mores. Show black women that it backfires. The stigma doesn’t erase the behavior, it pushes it into the shadows where, devoid of information and acceptance, it become more risky.


    For instance, most blacks find premarital sex unacceptable, according to the Gallup data. But, according to data from a study by the Guttmacher Institute, blacks are 26 percent more likely than any other race to have had premarital sex by age 18, and the pregnancy rate for black teens is twice that of white teens. They still have premarital sex, but they do so uninformed and unprotected.


    That leads to a bigger problem. According to a 2004 report by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, black women have an abortion rate that is three times that of white women.


    More specifically, blacks overwhelmingly say that homosexuality isn’t morally acceptable. So many black men hide their sexual orientations and engage in risky behavior. This has resulted in large part in black women’s becoming the fastest-growing group of people with H.I.V. In a 2003 study of H.I.V.-infected people, 34 percent of infected black men said they had sex with both men and women, while only 6 percent of infected black women thought their partners were bisexual. Tragic. (In contrast, only 13 percent of the white men in the study said they had sex with both men and women, while 14 percent of the white women said that they knew their partners were bisexual.)


    So pitch it as a health issue. The more open blacks are to the idea of homosexuality, the more likely black men would be to discuss their sexual orientations and sexual histories. The more open they are, the less likely black women would be to put themselves at risk unwittingly. And, the more open blacks are to homosexuality over all, the more open they are likely to be to gay marriage. This way, everyone wins.


    You hate blacks AND gays? You think Fox is the news..
    I am not answering any more of your racist, rude dumb posts. Talk to yourself, all 3 or more of your selves that you are posting here so obviously.
    First of all, blacks received the right to vote after the civil war,
    try 140 years ago (NOT 40) when the Reconstruction Ammendments were passed between 1865 and 1870.  Women received the right vote with the 19th Ammendment in 1920 (88 years ago).  
     

    I think history has established that slavery is wrong.  I refuse to believe that I, as a white person, must continually apologize to the black man or woman for slavery that happened to their ancestors centuries ago!  I personally have never codoned or owned slaves and they personally have never been slaves.  So I ask you, what does slavery have to do with Obama being elected president?  What does slavery have to do with his compaign and this election?  Who is making race an issue here?  I'll answer the last one, YOU are by insinuating that Obama and all African-Americans deserve special accolades just because they are black.  They did not suffer as slaves.  They did not have to overcome slavery.  And today's African-Americans receive more rights and more governmental assistant, then any white person I know.  Just look at affirmative action for crying out loud! 

    You're right, most blacks have voted democrats
    nm
    It's time for blacks to have a little celebration WHY DO YOU CARE? sm
    White people never will understand, and I am white, what the blacks went through and still go through. Not only do we now have a brilliant loving, honest president, but he happens to be black. It is MAJORLY symbolic. Why do you rabids pick apart every good and loving thing that the rest of us are celebrating today. Go write a love letter to Anne Coulter!
    BYEEEEE hahahah Obama WON.

    *blacks* not blanks. Been working too long today! nm
    x
    Where on earth in this post do you get I hate blacks, Dems, or the poor?
    I was quoting the mayor of New Orleans, Ray Nagin..who is black, and a Democrat, though not poor. Did I say I didn't like mayor Nagin? I am just saying he is acting a whole lot differently than he did during Katrina. And from that you get that I hate blacks, dems, and the poor? The dem talking points don't really fit this post...??? Now I am confused.

    I don't hate Dems. I just don't agree with them. And I don't understand how they can say they are the party of the people and want to fight so hard for freedom of choice and individual rights, and then turn on one lone poster like a pack of snarling dogs for disagreeing with them. Don't you think what the party is supposed to stand for and the way theones on this board are acting is even SLIGHTLY contradictory?? lol
    Imagine that simple statement being recited by a white man about blacks.
    It would have been labeled a racist remark.
    live and let live
    I read your post.  It is based on accusations, which is all anyone can really go on as Hitler is not here to pick his brain.  It also states Hitler felt they were capitalists, which was a reason why he wanted to destroy them.  I also know what my many NYC jewish friends talk about when we talk about WWII and concentration camps which we have talked a lot about over the years.  As an aside, from someone who calls me hateful all the time, you do need to look within.  To call Chomsky despicable filth for no reason other than you disagree with him and his ideology is really quite scarey and sad.  This is America, where we can believe and worship anything we want and if a person does not like it, they can put it out of their mind and live their life and let Chomsky and every one else, who does not think like you, live theirs.  Long live Chomsky and every other Communist, Socialist and Capitalist in America.  Viva America!!
    we DO want to live and let live

    We just get a might testy when a board specifically set up for our group is invaded by people who just want to name call, endlessly recycle false propanganda, and obsess over foibles.  Separate but equal, I say.  You can go to the conservatve board and just rehash and regurgitate all 10 Fox talking points and you won't be bothered by me, rest assured.


     


    I live on the GC.
    I don't hate anyone! They ignored the warnings and blamed the government because they did not listen.

    Again look at Andrew and Ivan people prepared and then WORKED to rebuild their lives and they did not blame FEMA.
    I am not from PA, but I live in PA....
    and the people I know were offended. And so they should be. Lots of folks in flyover America are offended. He made a blanket statement and it offended a lot of rural folks whose jobs are on their farms. There are a lot of people in PA whose jobs have not been outsourced. That is the trouble with blanket statements. There are a lot of small towns in PA and not all of us are bitter. We do not cling, we embrace our second amendment rights and our religous beliefs...through good times and bad. If we did not, then we might indeed BE bitter.

    Obama does not know me. And I suspect he does not know a lot of rural America. Our vote counts too. Maybe he should not have painted such a broad stroke.
    Maybe where you live......not here
    I have known plumbing business owners my entire life and they ain't rich by a long shot. They do okay. They employ lots of people, which should be the main concern here.....employment. They perform a service you sure as shoot would want.

    Same with electricians. Both professions are tough jobs and I have no problem with them doing well if they can. My brother worked for a plumbing company when he was younger and was called out in the freezing cold to crawl under homes to replace pipes, homes that might at any minute collapse they were so old. He found himself in so many dangerous situations replacing pipes. H@ll fire....they couldn't pay him enough for what he did.

    Electricians crawling around in spaces I wouldn't want to go. In the middle of summer here in the south, one had to crawl around in a very small space above our home to run wires and you couldn't pay me enough to do that job. I thought they were going to pass out from the heat. I was more worried about them.

    And the A/C - heating guys. Aren't you glad they're there when you need them. Do I want to see them taxed out of business? Who would?

    I'm sure good 'ole Obama would want one of them showing up in the middle of the night if his heat went out and he wants warmth. Of course, he has the money to pay for that middle of the night housecall. We don't but that's not the company owners fault. We're slapping down the very people who keep this country rolling.

    Obama is a joke! Snide hypocrit.
    I and others do not want to live like the
    people from the Holocaust had to. This is coming from other countries too.

    Obama's own words - I will change the world. That will not be his job if he is elected. People from Germany see hitler in him. People in Brittain say he's a bad choice. People from all over say the Obama camp was how Hitler rose to power in Germany. Not my words theirs.

    So go ahead and praise lord Obama. Others have enough sense to see him for what he is.
    Most of us do not live
    in your parallel universe on the fringes, including a good number of life-long REAL conservative economists found in my citations. It does not take more than a minute or 2 to come up with references and resources, that is if you do anything else with your time other than spend it reading the info on walls of the right-rag outhouses. It comes as no surprise you cannot find any info from the real world there.

    But suit yourself. You don't have time to educate yourself or do any research before you open your potty mouth? Fine with me, but don't expect anybody with a triple-digit IQ to take you seriously.

    Ain't bipartisan support a b*itch?




    Don't know where you live, but in LA,
    they cannot arrest someone who is a known illegal criminal who has already been deported, unless a new crime is committed, so police can spot dangerous gange members whom they have already arrested and deported in the past, but there is nothing they can do until another crime is committed. It is ridiculous.
    Where do you live?
    If you voted for Obama, you are one of the two types of voters. Now, you either live in an area where there is enough working people that you never really see the downside of where all your taxes really go, or you know plenty who mooch already and feel you must stick up for them for some reason, why is that? Afraid you won't be "loyal" or do you feel you're entitled?

    I believe in working for a living.... unfortunately, our government has long since forgot what a sovereign country is all about and managed to create an entire welfare country in just a few short decades!
    Do you live in CA?
    x
    I don't know where you live....
    but people do not jack off in libraries in my neighborhood. Evidently, since you are implying this is LAW or a proposed bill that is imminent (which it is not), you have failed to notice that people are NOT flaunting their wedding tackle in your local library.
    Because MOST of them live off YOU and ME!!
    --
    I don't know where you live....(sm)
    but you should really try getting out of your little box.  The issue with marriage isn't whether or not a man and woman can marry, but rather whether a gay or lesbian couple can marry.  Remember Prop 8?  That would be the law that just recently passed saying it was illegal for gays and lesbians to be married.  They previously had this right -- It has now been taken away with Prop 8, funded by the religious community.
    Good for you...Where you live that is...nm

    I live near MacDill and know
    some people there, including my stepdaughter. They have been talking draft for some time now. My friends are against it; they feel working side by side with someone who does not want to be there is demoralizing. The administration, however, is rabidly obsessive about this and we all know what happens when they get their sights set on something. Also there has been much talk of foreign persons serving in our military, sort of like the French Foreign Legion; romantic...yes, practical, hardly. On the one hand we have the ** fears and queers** tactics spun to perfection by this administration. If anyone other than they are in office, we will be attacked. Cheney even got on TV and said Ohio, Florida and Pennsylvania would be prime targets if Kerry was elected president, what a coincidence these were swing states with a lot of clout. And if the terrorists didn't get us, the homosexuals would. The fear tactic has worked wonders for them. What does not get much press (imagine - and us with a liberal press and all) is the government's willingness to allow complete open and free access to our country in certain instances....Dubai company running shipping ports, some ports of entry not being scrutinized at all, like say Tampa Bay, about 1 mile from MacDill, better known as CentCom. And now, they think foreigners in our military is a good idea. If that is not a shot direct to the heart of operations, if that is not aiding and abetting and enabling and empowering enemies I don't know what is. We can't know all sorts of things because it will **empower the terrorists** and we have to sacrifice our privacy and our rights because *the terrorists gonna get us..** but we are not only going to allow, but invite foreigners to join our military ranks, at the same time as building a 700-mile wall to keep foreigners out. Nuff said.
    I live in upstate NY
    I believe in G-d, most of my liberals friend do as well, but not all of them. I have a few conservative friends who are athiest.
    If you live on the GC, you were paying about
    nm
    You must live in another country! Sorry, but the
    I was better off, made more money, paid lower taxes, and had more job security during the Clinton Administration than now. Same with all my MT friends & co-workers.
    Sure, there are people who don't live within
    their means. But are totally discounting the fact that there thousands of people out there who are just trying to get by and do live within their means. I know a lot of people who have no credit cards, do not drive fancy cars and buy their clothes at Wal-Mart only when they need them. These people are making the same amount that they made years ago but are paying more because of the rising costs of fuel, heating fuel, groceries, electricity, etc. These are people who have always lived within their means, and now can barely afford the necessities. Are you really too biased to see that?
    only 80 people live there?

    maybe. could be.  Some say.  It was reported that. 


     


    Do you live in Ohio?
    x
    And if you did live in Ohio - sm
    You might be able to vote three or four times. :)
    When did I say I wanted to live in
    a Socialist society.  I don't.  Neither do I want an unstable person with a fiery temper with his hand on the nuke button.
    As I live and breathe!
    I have followed your posts for a while. A month or so back, I replied to you saying that even though I am an enthusiastic Obama supporter, I think your solution to your relative ambivalence toward both candidates is a really good one. You have identified a person who most closely represents your beliefs and have decided to do a write-in. I think Mr. Dobbs will receive more than a few of those. Even though I cannot buy into his immigration crusade and he is a bit on the conservative side for me, I do admire him in terms of his style and the fairly polite manner in which he expresses his views and delivers the news and I can understand his appeal to independents.

    It is very refreshing to see somebody who takes their vote seroiusly and seeks to use it in support of somebody, instead of casting a vote "against" somebody else...an undesirable position in which I have often found myself in the past.

    I really think that Karma will be doing its thing and that campaigns founded in hate speech, mispresentations and slaughter of truth will go the way they need to go....to the trash heap. I hope you will be able to maintain your principles and cast your vote in support of your best choice and I look forward to reading more of your sensible and insighful middle-of-the-road viewpoints in the future.
    you live in dumbsville.....
    http://www.obamacrimes.com/attachments/028_Obama,%20Motion%20for%20Leave%20and%20First%20Amended%20Complaint.pdf



    TRUTH JUST EATS AT YOUR GUT DOESN'T IT?
    You want to know about |AIG first hand? I live in...sm
    Stowe Vermont. The Stowe ski resort was built as a pet project many years ago by AIG. It was very low key for many, many years for many reasons, zoning etc. So lovely and pristine, no high rise condos, a quaint small town Vermont experience. A few years ago, after years of wrangling, permits were obtained for a huge VERY luxury hotel, ski base lodge, million plus dollar condos, high end shopping in a ski village etc. Fast forward a few years, the hotel is completed and the base lodge almost done, condos halfway complete, no village yet. I guess that technically we Americans now own 80% of this resort. Maybe I can get a subsidized ski pass? I haven't heard of any slow down with the development, but I could be wrong. I wonder if we will be sold off but I doubt it. Very interesting. No one has any idea of the excesses of corporate America over the last 50 years.
    So you must live in one of the good

    I managed to live through the 60s and 70s.
    I know exactly what to expect and remember it as a time when American behaved like America and I was able to feel strongly patriotic about my country. For all those prophets of doom, I can assure you, it won't be fatal.
    Oh please....what world do you live in?
    Remember the Rodney King incident? Any excuse. Wonder why OJ wasn't convicted? Sure as heck wasn't because he was innocent! Pleeeze! You live under a rock?

    You think if a black president were to be injured or worse by some thug there wouldn't be rioting? If whites were screaming and yelling all up and down the street, they would be called racist but if blacks are rioting, burning, killing because a black person suffered injustice, then they think they are in the right.

    I'm not sticking my head in the sand and pretend the facts aren't there.