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Good luck with all that hate. sm

Posted By: Really? on 2005-07-17
In Reply to: fight fire with fire - gt

And that is what it is just pure hatred.  No Democrat I know would go near where you are.  That isn't fighting.  It's not even smearing.  It's no class gutterball and it has no benefit whatsoever to anyone. 


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    LOL! Good Luck!

     In case you are the same *Teddy* who posted on the Conservative Board in the last week or two, you should know that the same *friendly* group of people you encountered there the other day also accused you of being me. 


    At any rate, welcome to the Liberal Board. 


    as I said, good luck with that...SP is same old...
    this is the same old culture war, and the republicans have played women like we are stupid. as far as approval rating, people are afraid to go against Sara in Alaska because they have seen her wrath. she gets people fired etc etc.

    like I said, SP is same old. I have seen too many women like her and all they do is control and manipulate to their own needs and desires.

    Christians are supposed to be meek, not calling for war already. I especially find distasteful people who use their religions to gain power.

    ...oh and it is okay to call Obama right out a wolf in sheep's clothing, but not say anything negative about she who would hide behind being a woman -

    who wrote this post, a man? when did women get so aggressive and want to be men so much, anyway.

    you think you are 'doing it all' - yeah, all and half the quality.

    you praise this woman because she can give birth? How does she manage her family, lets her daughter get pregnant, and perhaps worse?

    yeah, you do it all all-right, and everything is half-#@!?. What a role model! Let go back to work 3 days after having a baby, let our daughters be sexually abused by men while we run around pretending we are so important...
    good luck
    with my conversion. Not a lot of Jews converting today, especially to evangelical beliefs. But you keep trying, lol.
    Good luck with that, then, if you truly believe him....sm
    I never said I agreed with what's been happening on the wall street agenda, however, as usual, the democrats are rewriting the bill they signed, and it now looks nothing like it did when it passed, even though that was the wrong thing to do.

    Now, we have to give a helping hand to everyone under the sun.

    If that's not socialism, and marxism is right behind, especially when he shuts the media up for asking questions, look out.

    You're getting more than they're telling you about, and I guarantee you, you will not be all warm and cuddly, when all that comes down to pass.


    But again, believe as you want to believe. Perhaps you are voting your emotions, along with the masses, after all.


    Good luck with that.
    x
    Good luck, LVMT
    All jobs take a while to get used to.  I'm sure you'll do very well in a very short time.  Hope you come back soon.
    Good luck with your daughter! sm
    I have kids are older than yours and while there has not been a pregnancy, there have been other issues we have worked through that floored me and shocked me, but we got through them.

    I have several friends whom are excellent parents, involved, church going, teach values ...could not ask for more.

    guess what???

    Their kids drink, try drugs, have sex and yes, indeed, some have gotten pregnant. I am not saying ALL teenagers do, because that is not true, BUT many, many do.

    IMHO, embracing it and loving your child when something like this happens is called unconditional love. It does NOT mean that you condone it or approve. But what is done, is done.

    p.s. (joke)
    just how do her parents "allow it?"

    Twice as old, nope, just good luck
    Gosh, you sure are touchy when it cones to the fact you apparently have made some poor judgements and now stuck with a home you cannot sell. My homes come from money I have received from family, stocks, investments- I have been blessed because I do not make bad investments like others. With your last statement I can just imagine your sticking out your tongue, like a child does and saying nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
    Heartening story. Good luck to you. But
    the problem is with the system.  There are abusers and it is mismanaged.  Not everyone is an abuser, obviously, but being from a small town I can't tell you how many people I know that accept welfare and then to see what they spend it on is ridiculous.  There has got to be some accountablilty there and make sure those that truly need the program get it and those that have the ability to, to get off their behinds and get a job or training to get a job.
    Good luck trying to convince O lovers they;re
    aa
    Au contraire. I've had really good luck
    most recent example would be my 18-year marriage to a rough, tough tom cat 14 years my junior.
    thanks again Babe! Good luck voting for McSame/Falin...SM
    ROFLMAO
    English not so good. Sad for you. So much hate. Life too short hate.
    x
    LOLOLOLOL, you guys HATE Fox. This is too good! NM

    I'm sorry for your bad luck, but...
    I don't think the minorities in Georgia have it better than the white people.

    I have a good friend who is black and he has not worked in 3 years due to an injury on the job. He is getting by on $173 a week from Workman's Compensation. He cannot get food stamps.

    I have another friend who is repeatedly passed over for promotions for white folks to get the jobs even though he has been on the job now for over 8 years and then has to help train the new-hire white boys to take the job he was passed over for.

    I am white and I got a scholarship to college just fine when I decided I wanted to return to school this year.

    I think you are just a racist!
    With a little luck, maybe her plane will
    and will CRASH, instead. That way the election could focus on the issues once again.
    Be very, very careful with what you wish for. I wish you luck with all your
    I doubt very much anyone with any true intelligence will truly like the way we are about to go, should Obama win the white house
    They'd have more luck unloading these if
    they'd include a pinup of a terrorist kitty or 2.

    http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s22/darju/kitty.jpg

    http://www.dcmodding.com/main/images/stories/sniper_kitty.jpg

    http://vwt.d2g.com:8081/Kosher.Kitty.jpg



    I wish the best of luck to our incoming president...sm
    President Barack Obama.


    I want to take the high road, and give him the chance he deserves, without all the pettiness and prejudice I see displayed against our current, outgoing president.



    I wish the best to you all on this board, as well, both left and right, and all in between.


    I wish the best for our country, and that includes President Obama.


    I wish him well, and hope he is guided well on his path and his choices for our country.





    Oh I see....you hate small town folks, you hate Christians...
    and you hate the military...you are also coming into real clear view.
    Yeah, and rub your luck rabbit foot...sm
    While you're at it! It'll do JUST much good. Silly people. Let go of your ancient superstitions and move into reality with the rest of us.
    No such luck, GP. All that fake congrats this morning
    was just a bunch of hooey to lull us into a belief that they actually meant it.  If fact, it has really escalated through the day.  I'm thinking maybe they all just need to get ****!!
    Sheesh, you not only hate Bush, you hate PEOPLE!
    x
    They don't hate us because we are free, they hate us because...
    We need to stop imposing the way we live on them. They don't hate us because of our freedom. That is absurd. When have you ever heard them say we hate you because you are free? Never. What they have been saying is "Don't tell us how we should live". "Don't tell us we need to have the same type of government that America has", and they also say "We don't need the Americans designing our own countries flag" and that is why they hate us. They are their own country. It is not right for us to go in and say you need to live the way we do, your government needs to be run the way ours is. How would we like it if they came and said "Were invading America and your going to conform to the way we live because "its' the right way" or "god has told me this is the way it's suppose to be". No, we wouldn't like it one bit. Every country lives differently. We need to stop dictating how other countries should live.
    Hate mongers hate everything.
    x
    So you not only hate gays, you also hate
    .
    Outta Work and Outta Luck


    by: Peter Whoriskey, The Washington Post


    photo
    People wait to speak with staff about unemployment benefits.



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        More than a quarter of people applying for such claims have their rights to the benefit challenged as employers increasingly act to block payouts to former workers.

        The proportion of claims disputed by former employers and state agencies has reached record levels in recent years, according to the Labor Department numbers tallied by the Urban Institute.

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        As unemployment rolls swell in the recession, many workers seem surprised to find their benefits challenged, their former bosses providing testimony against them. On one recent morning in what amounts to one of Maryland's unemployment courts, employees and employers squared off at conference tables to rehash reports of bad customer service, anger management and absenteeism.

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    Good post....truth doesn't always sound good
    @
    Good for you! Most people would not recognize good...sm
    character if it hit them over the head, just sheep who follow along without thinking for themselves, believing the political pundit spitting out garbage.
    Good post - good research (sm)
    History does repeat itself at times. I had forgotten about the 50s and Russia.

    Very scary times we live in and so many new enemies. This is definitely not a scare tactic but a very clear warning. You can't ignore facts, they are there.
    What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
    rasberries
    Good point, good post. Thanks.

    you are the one with hate
    It is you and the other republicans who post here that are filled with hatred.  My gosh, almost every one of your posts has the word hate in it. 
    Hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate. nm

    Hate. nm

    Hate? I don't hate anyone....
    least of all some anonymous poster on a board. I would not waste the energy, and hating anyone is a waste of energy. I don't hate liberals. Yes, it is dissent...it is dissenting opinion. You know, like the Supreme Court judges do when they don't agree? They give dissenting opinions. There is much more opinion on these boards than fact. As far as hate....your leaders in Congress have a good healthy hatred and want of revenge...or they would not put terrorism on the back burner to investigating Bush. That is hatred of the man and desire for revenge that is quite blatantly obvious, and certainly is not in the best interests of the country. I believe that Ms. Pelosi needs to remember that people in glass houses should not throw stones. I don't expect an answer because you already told me you were not going to read this...
    There just seems to be a lot of hate for her
    I will vote dem no matter what
    Why do you hate

    Reading these posts I am trying to understand why Gov. Palin is hated so much.  I'd like to know facts (not rumors or lies).  Can you provide me with answers as to why.  I just don't understand it.


    The conversative republicans on this board are not coming out with hate towards Obama/Biden, and I really don't see much hate towards McCain, but the actual hate is seeping out and infiltrating all of your thoughts with Gov. Palin and I cannot understand why.  I've seen her interviewed.  She doesn't seem too bad.  She's knowledgeable about the issues and answers questions with confidence.  I've also seen Obama, Biden and McCain interviewed too and I just don't understand what it is towards Gov. Palin but not the others. 


    Please provide facts too.  Everything I am reading on this board are rumors and lies, so if you could just tell me.  Even if you say you don't like her because she's pretty, or she decided to have a baby instead of aborting him, etc I don't mind answers like that because they will be truthful, but please don't tell me you hate her because of something manufacted, or for something she is not personally involved in.


    Just trying to understand.


    why is it hate
    When we want her to speak out and show who she is? I don't hate her. I do think there were several more qualified women that could have been picked for the Rep VP slot. I think it is a slap in the face to the more educated, capable women that they picked a pretty little thing from Alaska that barely graduated college with a degree in Journalism.

    Ms. Rice is 100 times more qualified to be VP, why not pick her?
    I don't hate anyone!
    All I am saying is that I have a better understanding of why you have such strong feelings about politics, based on what you have told us about yourself. My life is polar opposite of yours, which affects my feelings about politics.

    I do not hate small town folks, Christians, the military, or anyone else. It just that we come from different worlds, and I understand now why we see things so differently.
    Right, you don't hate nobody, you hate
    agree with you.
    What does this say.......hot hate?
    Although nowhere does the Qur’an say that Allah loves those who don’t believe Muhammad, there are over 400 verses that describe the torment that he has prepared for people of other religions (or no religion):

    And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers (3:85)

    The relative worth of non-Muslims is that they are but fuel for the fire of Hell:

    (As for) those who disbelieve, surely neither their wealth nor their children shall avail them in the least against Allah, and these it is who are the fuel of the fire (3:10)

    As they are fueling the fire, unbelievers will be tormented by Allah’s angels on his command:

    “O ye who believe! Ward off from yourselves and your families a Fire whereof the fuel is men and stones, over which are set angels strong, severe, who resist not Allah in that which He commandeth them, but do that which they are commanded.” (66:6)


    Hate to say it

    I think there are a few bone fide nut jobs on this post that got a whole lot of people sucked into their delusions.  Fooled me twice. Later!


    That's a lot of hate! nm
    .
    I don't hate you......... sm
    I just don't like your lifestyle and that gay people are insisting upon calling a union between people of the same sex a marriage. In my opinion, and apparently in the opinion of a vast number of Americans, it devalues the institution of marriage between men and women. If you want to live together, fine. Just don't tell me that I must consider your situation a marriage and don't change our countries laws to recognize it as a marriage.
    Hate to say it, but I don't think it's

    going to happen (talking about issues). There are too many new ones on here now and all they want to do is name calling, pick fights, and won't try to find the truth and, sadly, it's also the way of the country nowadays.  I have been appalled at the reaction lately and even ones who have been on here a long time and always posted decently are turning into the negative posters, too.


    Unless the posters start following the rules of this board, I doubt it will ever change.


    you are right - they hate each other! nm
    xxx
    Hate to tell ya, but...(sm)
    Penn and Maine are blue states according to the 2008 election.  Those 3 senators are doing what they were elected to do -- that being representing their people.
    I hate it when that happens...lol (nm)


    I hate to say this
    but the more pub bashing there is, the less I want to even consider what dems have to say.

    Dems keep saying they expect us to work with them (pretty much agree with what they want to do, nevermind how we feel about it) yet then they want to constantly trash talk us and make fun of us. I'm not saying that pubs don't do the same to dems, but if the majority wants the minority to participate, maybe they should chill out on the "party of NO and hip hop party" lingo.

    Just sayin :)
    Well, I hate to tell you this

    but these hicks that you talk about using food stamps to buy food are the same people who will benefit from Obama's presidency.  It won't be hard working individuals like ourselves.  This type of irresponsible behavior will be rewarded by government assistant programs at the expense of the working Americans who pay for them and who is pushing for more government programs.....why I do believe it is Barrack Obama....is it not?


    As for Sarah Palin, she has done very well running Alaska and has worked her way up from the bottom to the top in her state.  She wasn't born with a silver spoon in her mouth.  If Sarah Palin was as ugly as Hillary Clinton is and was pro-choice, you all would be drooling over her.  But because she is an attractive woman who is conservative, you ladies would rather say she has no brains because she is pretty. 


    How smart are we?  Our country elects a man who has no experience whatsoever and when it comes to writing bills, he hands the everything over to Pelosi.


    Please continue to tell me how stupid Palin is when Obama runs our country into the ground because I'm sure that will make sense to everything ignorant Obama is doing right now.