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Good post....truth doesn't always sound good

Posted By: dems will drag us through the dirt on 2008-10-23
In Reply to: I am proud to be a gun-toting, religious redneck - Backwards typist

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doesn't sound good for us
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That doesn't sound good. I worry myself

as I have life insurance through American General who was supposedly bought out by AIG because everytime I get a letter from the insurance company, it comes in an AIG envelope.


I dealt with this life insurance company since 1975 and I would sure hate to lose the insurance since DH now cannot be insured by another company without a rigorous PE, which he wouldn't do.


Another thumbs up or "I told you so" from hubby if this happens and I sure would hate to acknowledge he was right. I'm beginning to think he can see into the future. So many of his predictions have come true.


This is good, sound thinking.
I agree. I would love to go back in-house. As for Shelly's situation, I am wondering if geography is not playing a role. Some parts of the country will be suffer more than others and for longer.
Good post - good research (sm)
History does repeat itself at times. I had forgotten about the 50s and Russia.

Very scary times we live in and so many new enemies. This is definitely not a scare tactic but a very clear warning. You can't ignore facts, they are there.
Good point, good post. Thanks.

The good, the bad, the truth
Reaganomics was the most ambitious reform effort since the New Deal.

President Reagan attempted to do many important things simultaneously - bring down escalating double-digit inflation, speed up sluggish economic growth, cut tax burdens, strengthen the military establishment, reduce civilian government, curb regulatory burdens, and generally expand the role of the private sector at the expense of the public sector.

The four key parts of Reaganomics were income-tax cuts, new expenditure priorities, monetary restraint, and regulatory reform. For this far-reaching economic program to fully succeed, delicate balancing was required. Monetary policy had to be tightened enough to bring down inflation, but not so much as to create severe recession. Taxes had to be cut, but without raising the specter of vast deficits that would scare the Fed into an excessively restrictive credit policy. Defense had to be expanded but not so rapidly as to offset the reductions in civilian spending. Regulation had to be cut enough to provide a significant boost to productivity, but without eliminating public support for the reforms.

The painful and often undesired interactions among the individual parts of the Reagan program resulted in disparate results. Monetary restraint was the key to unwinding inflation, as well as precipitating sharp recession. Recession, in turn, delayed the beneficial effects of the tax cuts on investment and pushed the budget deficit to unprecedented heights.

Ironically, it was the enactment of tax cuts unmatched by spending cuts that scared the Fed into a tighter monetary policy. The subsequent recession caused serious budgetary imbalance.

Simultaneously, a new sense of realism became evident in business and personal decisionmaking. Labor and management have both become more cost conscious, and even aware of the awesome term "productivity" in a society in which government does not readily rescue the losers in the marketplace. In the public sector, the era of big dams and expensive water-power projects drew to a close. The reduced flow of grants-in-aid from the federal government led to a sea change in the expectations of state and local officials, who again look primarily to their own resources.

A positive demonstration effect occurred overseas. Witness the simultaneous spread of free-market economies in various parts of the globe, including some unexpected quarters such as the former communist economies.

Ronald Reagan's legacy was a fascinating mixture: lower inflation and higher deficits; lower taxes and higher levels of government spending; less unemployment and bigger trade deficits; fewer strikes and more government jobs; reduced economic regulation and expanded social regulation; the deepest recession in half a century and the longest peacetime recovery ever.

A few numerical comparisons help make the point. Real GDP declined by one-half of 1 percent in 1980, President Carter's last year, and rose 3.9 percent in 1988, President Reagan's last year. The CPI rose 13.5 percent in 1980 and by 4.1 percent in ྔ. The prime rate dropped from 15 percent in 1980 to 9 percent in 1988. Real median family income rose from $34,200 in 1980 to $37,000 in 1988. The unemployment rate declined from 7.0 percent in 1980 to 5.4 percent in 1988.

On the other hand, the budget deficit rose from $74 billion in 1980 to $155 billion in 1988, while the trade deficit rose from $15 billion to $129 billion during the same period. And, contrary to widespread belief, the portion of the population below the poverty line was 13 percent in both years. One more set of numbers: Real national wealth rose from $11.9 trillion in 1980 to $14.2 trillion in 1988.

Warts and all, the Reagan presidency was a high-water mark for the American economy, especially as measured by the more positive attitude that most Americans had toward themselves, their society, and the future.

* Murray Weidenbaum, chairman of the Center for the Study of American Business at Washington University in St. Louis, served as chairman of President Reagan's Council of Economic Advisers, 1981-82.

Yes, he was very good! Talk about the truth hurts....
I like Fred. Always have. You don't have to wonder where he stands.
It's a good way to scare other democrats from seeing the truth nm
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Excellent - good for you. The truth sure hurts!
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So if being dominated doesn't feel good,
This has nothing to do with any of the other drivel about Nazism, socialism or what. Its time for your medicine.
I'm sure it "sounds" real good...too bad he doesn't really believe it and you....
What you get if O is elected, is a whole lot of not what he's promising.


Such gullible fools half this country is.
Good dodge, but it doesn't let you off the hook with regards to the point
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She doesn't have to tell me....good grief, it's a free country...
I just asked. You read all these posts and all you got out of it is that we just insulted each other? :) And you don't have to tell me anything. Just an observation.
Who says Obama doesn't have a good sense of humor?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090510/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_correspondents


At the bottom of this article, there's a link to watch the video - it's a hoot!!!!


Who says Obama doesn't have a good sense of humor?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090510/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_correspondents


At the bottom of this article, there's a link to watch the video - it's a hoot!!!!


Very good point!!! The world doesn't see any of that on the news! Thanks for posting that! nm
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Good post gt!
Amazing how the difference just slides off some people's backs. They label those who want to save lives as killers and think themselves saviors because they want killing to go on indefinitely.

A person has to be screwy in the head to think in such twisted terms!
good post

Thank you for your cogent comment.  I agree with all you stated.  I don't think we should allow the loud hysterical right wing to dominate the discussion. When I hear an emotional comment like ashamed, outraged, unpatriotic I see right through it as an attempt to silence people speaking and impose the attacker's inauthenic values upon all. Freedom of speech to me means we have to tolerate everybody saying what they think even if we don't agree. It does not mean that we are obligated to respond to an attacker. Thank you for your post.


 


 


 


Good post (sm)

Like you, I do not support either candidate.  I think you have made some valid points in your post.  Oh, how I wish people would have voted for Ron Paul. 


Good post
Looks like their church did many good things for people. Not all "hate" that others who don't want Obama elected would portray the church as. This is what I like....a well researched post and not rumors, lies and misinformation. Thank you.
Your post was also very good. I

agree with most of what you say, especially about schools. In my county, our scores are horrendous, yet our taxes are sky high. The district I live in appeals tax assessments if a house is sold for more than what it was assessed for and, guess what. They are winning most of the appeals. So if a house is sold for $180,000 and assessed at $100,000, the school district gets the newer assessment. This, I believe is the correct way BUT what does the school do with it????? Right now, they want to build a new field house for the sports field complete with a tower (for what good purpose?)


Another school district is building a $30,000,000 school because their enrollment went up by 500 students. Why not just add on to the one they have? There is plenty of room.


Teachers are striking in another county. Why? They don't want to pay $150 a month for health insurance. Get real, people. Don't they realize what everyday people pay for health insurance?  Yet, most of the teachers don't teach anymore. They're in it for the money. Teachers in my district make $50K and up a year. The administration makes over $100K. For what?


I have no idea whom I'm voting for because of the promises. Barack makes some good promises, everything this country wants to hear, but Congress and the Senate controls what laws pass, not the President.


As for McCain, I don't care for him but I think he picked a good running mate, although I would much rather if Mitt Romney was chosen. I like SP's view, but again, how much does a VP get done.  I don't think Tom Ridge really wanted to be VP, although he was good when he was Governor of PA. He did a lot for the people of the state. 


The major problem with this country in the past 20 years has been a "gimme" attitude. Everyone wants everything given to them but don't want to pay for it, yet don't realize that they DO pay in the long run by higher taxes or less services.


I wish people would vote by brains and not by heart. Research, research, research, then chose the best candidate. JMHO


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This is a good post
I read someone's post that Joe the Plumber was a "plant". At first I thought that is not fair to Obama's campaign, but then I remembered that Obama's camp plants people to set up McCain, just like Hillary's people set up Obama, etc, etc. Seems to be the norm nowadays.

But one thing I realized was that it doesn't really matter whether he was planted or not. It didn't change the answer Obama gave (redistribution of wealth). I think a lot were upset that more people started finally hearing about the socialist plan to take your money you worked for and give to those who don't work, and I think that's what a lot were upset about (us finding out the truth).

I do believe his comments are starting to wake up a lot of voters as to what's going to happen to their hard-earned money, and do believe this is probably just the beginning of his downslide. Obama and McCains poll numbers are starting to catch up with each other and I have heard political experts on both sides say if Obama was so much better than McCain and a clear winner he would be ahead 20 or 30 points, but he is only ahead by 4 to 6 points (which is down from 11 points last week).

I'm also glad that McCain has picked Sarah Palin because she is just telling it like it is and that is what the Americans want. Not someone who is going to sugar coat things.

I do agree that Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber have saved McCain. Looking forward to the next 3 weeks.

PS - Loved Obama's speech he gave at the fundraiser where he said Joe Biden wants to be known as Joe the politician. That was absolutely hysterical. I think they've all got a great sense of humor.
Good post, very well said.
They ALL waste thier campaign money - they think it's thier God-given right. When they go out of state, do you think they stay at at a Motel 6? Do you think they have dinner at McDonald's? Do you think they go down to Hertz and rent some little two-door to get around town?

The people that sent them all that money knew that it was for campaign expenses - whatever they may be. I am personally more upset at the money they waste with the worthless commercials that really tell us nothing about either candidate. Can we just get over this and move on - please? It's just such a nonissue! There's a post a little further down about whether we're headed for another Great Depression and all people can talk about are Palin's clothes - get a grip on reality!!!
good post
he does flip-flop on so many issues....

he seems to not be able to make a decision and stand by it... take a look at his voting record. "tell them what they wanna hear" is all i see and people are eating it up, truth or not.

it is very scary.
Good post - sm
While GP is not as bad as the others I do tend to find myself reading the subject line if she posts something because she has said some valid things that I agree with at times. Not all of it but some of it. But when I've seen too many attacks by the others without any reason I find its so calming to just skip over it without looking. Almost the same satisfaction I get on hanging up on sometime while they are spewing absolute garbage and hate towards others.
very good post.
i am especially with you on the prayer and fasting. i also agree with everything else you said and pray as things get tough, we all pull together and find our common ground, and common purpose.
Very good post. s/m

I do believe that one of Obama's major objectives is to wipe out those party lines that have so divided everyone.  He has stated so many, many times, has promised to unite the parties into a single productive unit that will together make the decisions that are the best for all.  I think he deserves the chance to make that happen.  We will all be waiting with great expectation to see the changes he will attempt to make.  The whole politics of Washington is in dire need of a new direction, and I firmly believe he is the one to do it.  I know I am going to get attacked for these statements, but if I have one wish it is for each of us to keep an open mind and try to see things from a different perspective, and in order to facilitate a positive change, we must adopt a positive outlook.


This is a very good post, but

I do have fear.  I watched the O'Reilly Factor last night.  Obama picked Emanuel, one of the most left wing liberal and will not have respect for bipartisanship.  This guy is not to be trusted and even Clinton stated this to Richard Morris who has it in his book.  Also on O'Reilly Factor last night, some feel Obama will be nothing more than a puppet by the Democrates.  Lastly, the old folks that were brought up and raised by their certain morals, values, and beliefs for this country are now gone.  Poof.  Disappeared.  This country will never be the same.  Now will be liberal.  I am sorry, but it is hard for me to accept this right now and it is hard for me to just change my morals and values just like that in one day.  I am worried about our country. 


Kramer was also on the show and stated he liked McCain's drill now.  He said he hopes Obama will start this economy growing like how McCain wanted by starting new jobs for drilling and natural resources.  Can you imagine?  We start new companies for drilling oil, wind, coal, etc., and they will make money.  We can hire plenty of people for those new jobs that will make money.  Computer companies, furniture companies, paper products, telephone companies, and so on would make money because they are furnishing the new companies.  Delis and fastfood services would open up new stores to feed people during lunch.  Major domino effect and a good one.  Hopefully Obama will see that, but right now he just wants to tax us so we all will be paying taxes each year and no jobs being created, but more unemployment. 


Your post is good.  I was a democrate and changed to republican.  I hope you are right about Obama and I hope O'Reilly Factor, Kramer, Dick Morris, and all the others that were on last night are wrong about Obama.   


Good post
Says what we feel. I believe we all hope for the best. We all wish him very well.

You can't say if he's going to be a good president or bad president because he has not even taken oath yet. Give the guy a chance. Keep a watchful eye out on him, watch who he picks to be in his cabinet (they are the ones making the decisions and guiding him). Just because I didn't vote for the guy doesn't mean I don't like him. If he does good his trust will have been earned. Until then I am worried, nervous and scared - Human.
Good post - sm
Unfortunately O has not provided any answers - just like all the other issues. No answers just fluff talk.

Goes to show you he cares little about the people whose lives depend on coal industry. But then again, aren't those the same people who cling to their guns and religion.
good post!
I agree 100%. I mean really, if we keep backing down and trying to accommodate everybody, I think we will eventually lose ourselves and what is right and wrong, what this country's founding fathers stood for.


PS I don't hate u either, just consider it wrong. I woudl not be one to physically or verbrally attack you.
Good post

Another fine example of corporate america distracting attention from their mind-blowing "salaries and benefits" -- put the blame on the worker.  That crap is being sold constantly by the right and eaten right up by the "folks" too lazy to question or research and need to have someone to blame and look down upon.


Karl Rove type thinking.


 


 


Good post - thanks
Yeah, I think if JC was to come back he would just say there is something terribly wrong with what's going on.

On top of that I read that the winning lotto numbners the day after he won was 6-6-6. Hmmmm does make you wonder what is really going on.
good post
I totally agree.
Very good post...nm
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Could not have put that better myself - very good post! (nm)
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Good post!
I had forgotten how many people supported the war before they didn't support the war =)
Good post
JTBB just now got into politics apparently, so she probably doesn't know any of this. 
Good post!
I'm with ya on this one!! 
Good post, Democrat.
I, too, hope the Iraqi Constitution passes.  Like you said, the sooner it does, the sooner our soldiers can return home to their families.
Good post, Democrat.
Couldn't agree more. 
Wow, good post but will take two readings
You have got some great points.
Good post, Independent! nm
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Good lord. What a post. lol. nm
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well, at least the ones who post here are good examples...
sadly.
This is a very good post. You should submit it to
After working hard all of my life, starting at the young age of 10 - The Grit, weekly magazine :), I just dread facing difficult times.

Some say we expect too much from the govt, but then those are the ones who think everyone should be exactly like them, or that not every society has a welfare class.
Let them loose in the streets to fend for themselves and they'd turn to crime, end up in prison and we'd foot the bill there.

Sigh...
Thank you for your reply - good post
It's been awhile since I've been able to get back and read the response. I feel the same exact way. A woman's health issues to include pregnancy and everything else about her health should not be an issue in politics. Makes me wonder, what other part of our personal health are they going to make into political issues.

Good response on the job question too. I think I worded my original question wrong but this answered it. Thanks
Thanks, kaydie. Good post. nm
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Very good post, there, MTPockets...sm
...exactly how the I feel about the democrat party. Describes them to a tee.




Good post. Chele.....
Actually, McCain has tried twice in the past to get the government to do something about Fannie/Freddie and they didn't listen.

Obama does plan to cut taxes for what he calls 95% of the people in the country...roughly 40% of whom don't pay any taxes at all. Why on earth would you tax the businesses that provide 85% of the jobs in this country, resulting in more loss of jobs and adding to that 40%, to give a freebie to people already NOT paying taxes? There is only ONE reason for that...to keep them beholden to the government and voting for your party. Party first. If they really cared about that 40%, they would be trying to get them OUT of that 40%, not keep them there.

And bottom line...quality of health care will tank if the government controls it. I am hard pressed to think of any government program that actually works...and taking on national health care...people should check out the European economies where socialism is prevalent. Makes ours look GOOD.