Here's a hindsight question for ya...

Posted By: Democrat on 2005-09-23
In Reply to: Iraq better off, LOL - gt

Did anyone in/from Iraq ask us to help them? I just feel that if you are going to rescue a country from a horrible dictator that the people have to want to be saved and have the fight in them to sustain themselves after getting the help.

It's like we just made our minds up to invade based on invisible WMD, and when we got there they realized that was a rip so thought they could hoodwink the American public into thinking all of this was done to liberate the Iraqis. That's GWB planning at its best.

I think if the American public knew that Bush's plan was to liberate Iraq in retaliation for the 9-11 attacks, people would have thought he was a nutcase. But, he has spun his campaign so good that his followers can not tell the difference.

When Colin Powell made the case for the war in Iraq based on the invisible WMD, from a known lying CIA agent Curveball I might add, who knew that the real reason we were invading the country was to out Saddam and liberate Iraq? Then all of a sudden without any accountability the shift went from WMD and connection to 9-11 to liberating the Iraqis. This is the problem I have. The wool was pulled over our eyes in broad daylight.

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Yes, well hindsight is everything. SM

or is that foresight, I can't ever remember.

So pre-emptive war was okay in hindsight
We should have pre-empted with Hitler, but to pre-empt with Saddam, a tyrannical, murderous dictator was wrong?

I just love Monday morning quarterbacks in the context of history.

Hindsight is 20/20. The same argument could be made of North Korea if they decide to attack...sm
after Bush's 2nd term has ended.

Clinton and Bush definitely were opposites on foreign policy, but I think he did try - probably didn't do as much as he could. What Bush is doing with the war in Iraq though, I think is irresponsible as well.