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Here is one, but it's partisan left! sm

Posted By: MT on 2005-07-26
In Reply to: Please provide factual evidence of this... - Observer

Neighbors for Peace to "Raise the Bar" for Democratic Candidates


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE


St. Paul, MN – June 17, 2003 – When national Democratic leaders visit St. Paul next week, Merriam Park Neighbors for Peace and other Minnesota organizations will be on the scene to question presidential candidates, raising the electoral bar for peace, justice, and environmental issues.


The Association of State Democratic Chairs and the Democratic National Committee will convene this weekend at the Radisson Riverfront Hotel at 11 East Kellogg Boulevard in St. Paul. Gearing up for the 2004 presidential elections, Merriam Park Neighbors for Peace will be outside the hotel on Friday, June 20, from 2:30 to 5:30 p.m. to invite the candidates to join concerned Minnesota Democrats in dialogue about critical issues.


"People are leaving the Democratic party in droves, because in recent elections the candidates have become so centrist that they are almost indistinguishable from the Republicans," comments Merriam Park Neighbors for Peace co-founder, Anne Benson. "We want to see the Democratic party return to its progressive roots—to stand up for working people and poor people, and to fight against the regressive domestic and foreign policies of the Bush administration."


The neighbors from the Merriam Park area of St. Paul hold that in recent elections, Democratic candidates have lost their chance to take office because they've neglected the concerns of their own voters.


"It has always been said, 'There are more Democrats than Republicans; we just need to get out the vote,'" states member, Steve Schwarz. "We, however, need a reason to get out the vote. Many Democrats have felt alienated and misrepresented by the party and have looked instead to other alternatives. We believe in the principles that made the Democratic party what it was and still can be today. Remember, we in Minnesota have supported a long line of Democratic politicians who voted on principle and not on predictions of popularity. We expect our candidates to make peace and justice issues a priority."


Adds Benson, "We're encouraging candidates to ask themselves the hard questions: Where are the weapons of mass destruction? Was I misled by the administration when I voted for the War Powers Resolution? How do we get out of this quagmire in Iraq? Does the PATRIOT Act infringe on too many civil liberties?"


Merriam Park Neighbors for Peace has invited all Democratic candidates to meet with them after their sessions conclude on Friday to answer a series of fourteen questions regarding issues of pre-emptive war, international relations, arms development, military spending, V.A. benefits, U.S. economy, social programs, employment, globalization, education, health care, civil liberties, terrorism, and environmental policy. They invite all Minnesotans with these concerns to join them in St. Paul on Friday in addressing the candidates.


"We're not endorsing a particular candidate," group member, Jeanne Schnitzen, notes. "We're giving them all a chance to look us in the eye and answer to the issues we vote for. If they're really in this race to turn the tides, we'll make sure they get that chance. I want to believe there is a Democratic candidate who is capable of sowing the seeds of change."




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    Why not put your partisan views aside and tell us this: Do YOU think sm
    that Gore deserved the Nobel Peace Prize? I am neither a conservative nor a democrat, and I do not think he deserved to win it. I'm with the Observer on this one. Anyone with a molecule of sense knows that the two just don't go together - global warming and peace.
    The Nobel Prizes were established in the will of Nobel, a Swedish industrialist who died in 1896. The only framework he set for the peace prize was that it should honor people who have promoted "fraternity between nations," peace conferences or the "abolition or reduction of standing armies."

    Hmmmmmmmm
    Someone less partisan and more uplifting
    Joel Olsten. If he was looking to "reach out" to the conservative right, I'd much rather see even Pat Robertson (!), who at least has shown some capacity to embrace the realities of the demise of his party and some insight into where they REALLY need to be focusing their energy.
    Spoken as a true partisan.

    No, spoken TO a true partisan

    Only the conservatives on these boards fail to open their eyes and be objective when it comes to Bush and his actions.  They're obviously partisan conservatives.


    However, the people who continue to defend Bennett after Bush himself condemned Bennett's statement... well, there's a name for them, as well.


    I think we're starting to see a divide in the conservative party.  Those who just blindly follow Bush, unwilling or unable to see what's really happening, and the more sinister, dangerous, racist group who wouldn't mind seeing all black babies aborted.  Those who insist on defending Bennett are emphasizing that distinction, which is a good thing.  Let these people reveal themselves for what they really are.


    #1, The Nation is extremely partisan. #2.

    Tillman didn't talk about why he went into the service to anyone.  We will have to assume that what his mother is saying is true.  Has the wife spoken out?  I would think if he told his deepest heart's secrets, it would be to her.  She was his high school sweetheart.  Here's a snippet from a Newsweek article. 


    He joined the service just after a honeymoon to Bora Bora with his high-school sweetheart, Marie. He and a younger brother, Kevin, slipped off to enlist in Denver, where they could avoid publicity. Kevin, who gave up a budding minor-league baseball career, remains in the Army. Pat Tillman wanted no attention, no glory, for joining the rank and file. He didn't want to be singled out from his brothers and sisters in the military, says former Cardinals coach Dave McGinnis. Tillman apparently had made a pact with his family to stay silent about his service, a promise they have kept. They have gathered to grieve inside the comfortable family home in a leafy enclave of San Jose.


    His was no simple case of patriotism; Tillman was never known as a flag-waver. His agent, Frank Bauer, told reporters he had suspected that Tillman might quit to teach or to practice law like his father, Patrick Sr., but not to join the military. Snyder, his college coach, said Tillman never used the word patriotism when he explained his plans to enlist. He just seemed to think something had to be done. When players asked why he enlisted, he didn't want to talk about it. McGinnis says there were reasons Pat said he had that he didn't want to divulge, and the coach respected his view and his right to make his own path. Tillman had always been different. When he joined the pros, he rode a bicycle to practice because he didn't own a car. He refused to buy a cell phone. A sports publicist at Arizona State once described him as a surfer dude.


    It seems his mother decided the pact no longer had any merit.  Personally, I see another Cindy Sheehan, disobeying her son's wishes. 


    Most non-partisan sources would not agree with you

    But you would have to read something other than far-right-wing propaganda, which you probably don't.  Try getting a more global perspective and you will be less naive and less gullible. Unfortunately, if you had a more non-partisan world view you would also probably stop attributing all the problems of the world to the leftists.  And then who would you have left to insult?


    Part of the fault lies with lack of follow-through in Afghanistan but the major problem lies with Pakistan which has been the major breeding ground of the Taliban and terrorists for years.  The U.S. pretty did a cut-and-run in tracking down bin Laden. 


    What is the answer to all this?  I don't know.  However, I do know that Pakistan's support of terrorism and the Taliban has been in place for a long, long time and is not the result of the Iraq peace movement in the United States, despite what your extremely partisan sources may insist. 


    Agreed. And anyone who looks at it objectively and not through partisan...
    glasses could see it too. Fox has a lot more Democrat contributors and commentators than MSNBC, the major broadcast outlets or CNN. And Fox has more viewers, so apparently it is the choice of a lot of Americans.

    And as to the debates...Obama didn't want anything near a town hall before his convention. I read he was going to come up through the floor in a set that looks like a Greek temple to accept his nomination. I thought to myself you have GOT to be kidding. His spokesman didn't deny it, just said it was tastefully done. Okay, a tastefully done temple. Oh my. Well, I reserve any opinion until I see it.
    This is no partisan blame game.
    long saga of voter registration/voter fraud, election and campaign finance reform. Left-wing progressives have been focusing on this issue since 2000 but so far, nobody has listened because they are so busy dismissing them for being lefties. It is that id of partisan division and bickering that at the moment has our country so frozen up with spite that we cannot even managed to put together a clean election. We have no business trying to bring democracy to any other developing or third world countries until we at least get this part of our own back yard cleaned up. In terms of THIS election, 18 days before D-Day...a litle late in the game.
    Yes, and condescending, biased, partisan.
    nm
    War is a Partisan Decision (and more on amnesty for terrorists)

    Now here's an honest Republican.  Very refreshing!






    URL: http://www.knoxnews.com/kns/state/article/0,1406,KNS_348_4781865,00.html
    Duncan: War is a partisan decision


    Knox Republican opposed successful GOP bill aimed at testing Democrats




    WASHINGTON - War should not be a partisan decision by Congress, but it generally appears to have become that, Knoxville Rep. John J. Duncan Jr., a war opponent, said on the House floor Friday.

    I believe 80 percent of Republicans would have opposed the war in Iraq if it had been started by President (Bill) Clinton or (Al) Gore, and probably almost all the Democrats would have been supporting it, as they did the bombings in Bosnia and Kosovo (during the Clinton administration), Duncan said.

    Under Democrat Clinton's presidency, when he planned bombings in Bosnia and Kosovo, 80 percent of Republicans, including Duncan, opposed it, Duncan noted.

    In a vote Friday, Duncan was the only Tennessee Republican and one of just three Republicans nationally to oppose a Republican-drafted bill aimed at questioning Democrats' commitment to national security several months before the November general election. It passed 256-153. Democrats voted 149-42 against it, and one Independent opposed it.

    The nonbinding legislation refused to set any dates for changing troop strength in Iraq, labeled the Iraq war part of the global war on terrorism, and praised U.S. troops' sacrifice in Iraq.

    Duncan, one of the most conservative House members, said everyone supports the troops. It is certainly no criticism of them to criticize this war, he said. I am steadfastly opposed to this war, and I have been since the beginning. We need to start putting our own people first once again and bring our troops home - the sooner the better.

    Two other Tennessee members opposed the resolution: Democrats Harold Ford Jr. of Memphis and John Tanner of Union City.

    Voting in favor were Republicans Bill Jenkins of Rogersville, Zach Wamp of Chattanooga, and Marsha Blackburn of Brentwood; and Democrats Lincoln Davis of Pall Mall, Jim Cooper of Nashville, and Bart Gordon of Murfreesboro.

    Ford and Tanner said they strongly support the troops. But they noted that current Iraqi government leaders reportedly are considering granting amnesty to Iraqis who killed U.S. troops as acts of resistance and defense of their homeland. They cannot support a government that would grant such amnesty, Ford and Tanner said in written statements.

    Ford, a U.S. Senate candidate, called the Republican resolution a gimmick that fails to recognize that 'stay the course' is not working and that amnesty for terrorists is unforgivable.

    Tennessee supporters generally said they wanted to demonstrate confidence in U.S. troops in Iraq.

    Premature withdrawal is not an option, Wamp said in a recorded statement. It's an effective surrender. It's important that we stand firm and that we finish what we started and that the world sees that we're going to honor our commitments to the people of Iraq and the people of the Middle East.

    Davis, the only Democrat serving part of East Tennessee, accused Republican leaders of using the legislation as a political tool to try to make Democrats look sheepish. In a written statement, he said he has visited Iraq four times to show the troops that Congress supports their work.

    But Davis said federal officials now should focus on how we stabilize the country ... and how we get our troops home safe as soon as possible.

    Richard Powelson may be reached at 202-408-2727.


    It is called putting aside partisan politics for the
    .
    Partisan-led inquiry.....no real big srprise there...sm
    Try telling the both sides of the article and judgment please:

    Excerpt from CNN:

    A spokeswoman for the McCain-Palin campaign responded by calling the investigation "a partisan-led inquiry" run by supporters of Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama, but hailing its finding that Monegan's firing broke no law.

    "Gov. Palin was cleared of the allegation of an improper firing, which is what this investigation was approved to look into," campaign spokeswoman Meg Stapleton said.

    She said the Legislature exceeded its mandate in finding an ethics violation. "Lacking evidence to support the original Monegan allegation, the Legislative Council seriously overreached, making a tortured argument to find fault without basis in law or fact," she said.

    Rep. John Coghill, a Republican who criticized the handling of the investigation, said it was "well-done professionally."

    But he said some of the conclusions were judgment calls by Branchflower, and recommended readers should view them with a "jaundiced eye."

    RNC: Partisan politics in times like this is unhealthy.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/24/us/politics/24web-nagourney.html?bl&ex=1230354000&en=16a3dd67da5bac74&ei=5087%0A


    For Now, Obama Proves to be an Elusive Target for the GOP


    Dr. King transcended partisan ties in message and in deeds.
    x
    you mean left wing....it's a left wing ding website on the messiah....the right wouldn't bothe

    No need. I can't think of who else left besides Nan before. sm
    That's why I didn't name their name. Either way, my point was they'll be back.
    Actually what the left
    expects and the right should too is not to be lied to on a continual basis, to have our constitution upheld. We didnt go into this war to spread democracy we went because this administration lied. WMD remember? THATS why we went into Iraq, that and the fact that due to republican spin fully half of Americans believed Saddam did 09/11. and meanwhile the real perp of 09/11 runs free. If Iraq had no oil, we never would have gone in there. Sadly, Mr bush has made one huge mess that is costing us billions and killing our soldiers. Yeah a whole lot of America is furious and upset and we have good reason to be.
    Look what the left does..

    maybe this was posted before but it just goes to show how biased the media is and what liars they really are. the quote in red was the actual quote. Look how the media decided to butcher it.


    The media is trying REALLY hard to paint Sarah Palin into an evil religious zealot. The AP is willing to break the typically utilized laws of printing the English language to do it.


    According to the AP, Sarah Palin said this about the troops while at church:


    “Our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God,"


    According to real life, Sarah Palin said this about the troops while at church (with the AP’s selective quoting underlined):


    “Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending them out on a task that is from God,”


    The AP quote means “Iraq is a mission from God.”


    The actual quote means “We pray Iraq is a mission from God.”


    The headline is even more misleading.


    Palin: Iraq war 'a task that is from God'


    The AP not only doesn't mention the previous sentence, or the first part of the sentence they quote, they also essentially ignore the meaning of the very next sentence as well. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan."


    This is a statement of humble reflection from Palin. To translate into terms the media might understand, its "I hope we're doing the right thing."


    This story is bad enough that the AP really should issue a correction on it, if not a full retraction. There's no story unless you butcher the quote. It's based on half (or a quarter) of a quote, mentally ignoring the previous and following sentences, and even presenting the trimmed quote as the start of a sentence --forcing them to capitalize a word that actually appeared in the middle of the sentence.


    Really bad.


    you left off

    spinning his wedding ring.  And everyone knows what a married man is thinking when he does that . . .


     


    If you have next to no $ left now
    you must be one of the ones that the rest of us will be supporting with our tax money. 
    I will if you put the left one in.

    nm


     


    Left behind
    I am just wondering if either of you read Tim LeHaye's "Left Behind" series. It is fictional but deals with the rapture and those left behind. I had read it many years ago but was just thinking the other day how scary it is that I find so many similarities between the books and our current situation and my feelings about what we as a country may be facing after this election. Part of it also deals with a "one-world" religion, another thought I find scary. Have you read it?
    She is the only one left on there with
    decency and common sense! She is definitely no twit and there is nothing to hate about her. Just my opinion of course, and I feel like all the others are twits.
    Does anyone have anything left in their

    those to the far left seem to think
    we are to be all-tolerant of them and their lunatic ideas, but the tolerance doesn't work the other direction. Don't worry, those who counted on Obama for the gay/lesbian legislation -- i'm sure he'll come through for you before its all over.
    Yes, I know someone who left the
    country because Bush was reelected.  So, in answer to your obnoxious question, YES!
    I'm about as far left as you can get ....
    and Dubya didn't have anything to do with prompting the 9/11 attacks.  He just had the bad fortune to be the sitting president at the time.  Those attacks were years in the making.  Years.  It's foolish to blame any one president or any one administration for it. 
    Is this what the left always does when they have no
    nm
    Oh, come on! Both can be mean, but the left can
    nm
    What will they do when there's no one left to pay
    This, of course, is the major flaw in all socialist dreams and schemes. Sooner or later, the camel collapses under the weight of hauling everyone else's load. And my hump is already getting rubbed raw.
    So much for the tolerance of the left. nm

    Looks like you left your *objectivity*

    on the Conservative Board.   Might be time for you to return.


    Left leaning.

    I am well aware that I am on a *left leaning* board; however, how can you ever possibly gain a true picture of real facts if you only visit left leaning sites?  It isn't possible. I don't do it. In fact, on the other political boards I post on, some left and some right, Daily Kos, Democratic Underground, News Max, Fox, are not used as sources. 


    You misunderstand me about the Constitution and Iraq. 


    The left really hates this guy
    This is so laughable that with all that's going on the world the left stoops to National Enquirer style reporting. Get a life and a clue.
    Why do you think everyone not for Bush is left?sm
    I guess compared to those over on the conservative board, I am a little left. I was a registered Republican up until 4 years ago. Because their policies and actions conflict with my beliefs, I can no longer support the party. There are many many more just like me.
    I think there is still dispute over even when they left sm
    and why planes were allowed to come into US airspace to pick them up when all other aircraft were grounded. Also, why they were not questioned by FBI, etc.

    Also, researchers requesting information from the FBI about their disposition with Osama, and were told that Osama is wanted by the FBI, but not for 911. So my question would be, well then who is?
    Too bad folks, it's not just the left...sm
    Like Lurker said, the gig is up! People are pushing for change in Iraq. Personally, I would have rather seen us release the full fury on terrorist who are invading that country and clean it up before leaving. However, if our strategy is to keep peddling around like street police then something has to give. We have our own country to fix and too much attention has been given to Iraq in the past 3 years.

    On to the economy for a sec. Republicans have been boasting on how good the economy is doing, but guess which group is reaping the benefits. You guessed it - the rich. So sorry if the working man, you know those of us who punch the clock, are not feeling so thankful for the Dow and Nasdaq earnings. What's funny is that the *beltway boys* as AG calls them can not seem to figure out why 50% of Americans tend to feel the economy is not so hot.
    What is typical of the left?
    It kind of got lost in the point you were trying to make, something about Lurker not answering your question the way you wanted her to...or somethin' like that.
    What I want to know is who left you in charge?
    nm
    Posters like this need to be left alone
    nm here
    Would that be left or right bias?
    nm
    The left does it all the time.
    nm
    No, not at all...it started on the far left rag...
    the dailykos. That is where it broke. And then the rest of the far left picked it up and ran with it.

    I was the first to congratulate Obama on his renouncing of the behavior. But even with him saying that, his supporters continue the salvos at Palin's family. Big time Dem pundits on TV still taking shots at her. Blogs still taking shots at her. Posters on this board still taking shots at her. Now you take people who are not committed yet, they see this happening, and you are left with only two conclusions...either Barack was very serious and meant what he said (which I believe) and his followers and pundits and the media are still going to attack regardless; or that he just made that statement to take the political high road while all the time in the background he is saying "sic her." It has to be one of the two...but either way, if his supporters and big Dem pundits continue the attack it reflects badly on his candidacy. I realize that he cannot control what people do...but one would think they would heed what he says (they claim to believe everything he says) and just lay off...but, to each his own.
    Has the left ever put "country first"?
    nm
    Left field is right!
    nm
    Chele, do you mean left?
    I think it tends to lean left.
    It would behoove the left...
    not to attack Sarah Palin on issues that Obama/Biden have done the same things, only worse.  It doesn't help their cause.  Sigh.  And when did the race become Sarah Palin against Barack Obama?  lol.  He has been trying to diffuse this for a week.  "I am not running against Sarah Palin."  Well, the way his supporters are attacking her, it sure puts that focus on it and keeps pointing out the elephant in the room...that she actually does have more experience than he does.  Saw David Axelrod on TV this morning...new mantra is we are not running against Governor Palin. 
    Boy am I glad you both left....sm
    There's only so much rudeness a person can take.

    You call out sam on her posting everything...at least she's nice and civil....

    You two...or three...people, are still, just downright rude, under your smug little comments and innuendos, accusing sam of the very same things you're doing.

    No wonder people don't like coming here very much anymore, me included....yuck.


    Oh, if I want to know the left's reaction I just have to come here....
    lol
    But, we all know, the NYTimes is a left-
    wing publication very much in favor of Obama. Anything they publish is going to be one-sided and make the dirt and lies about Palin try to be convincing. And it will to people who only want to read one side of the story. NYTimes is about as fair as MSNBC, and that ain't good!
    what left are you talking about
    We have at least 5 families in our little church with 5 or more children, heck my mom and dad each come from 5-children families and my bil from 10 children. Guess what, they are all lefties.

    Of course I know hunters, I live in the North Country.

    Yes, we fear Palin, we fear someone even dummer in office than we already have.