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I'd start with the suits that made out like bandits --

Posted By: they'd be paying it all back and then on 2008-10-10
In Reply to: If you were running for President --- - Amanda

on with the politicians who dirtied their hands in this -- Dodd and Frank.  They should lose their positions and have fines to pay.  I also wouldn't be worried about bailing out China.  We worry too much about everyone else instead of the homeland. 


I also feel the homeowners who took these mortgages need to own up for their share in this.  They knew they couldn't afford it.  My DH and I are building a house.  We were preapproved for $350K -- did we borrow that much?  He!! no.  We sat down and looked at our bills and what we're paying now and what, if any, extra we could pay each month.  We based our loan amount on what we know we can afford -- not what the bank said we could have. 


However, I do believe that these loose lending practices contributed to this mess.  Not everyone understands what a 3-year ARM is.  The banks should hold some responsibility in this by reducing the monthly payment by 20% and locking the rate into a fixed rate.  The 20% the monthly payment is reduced by would simply be added to the length of the loan, taking longer to pay it off.  Most of these people do not want to lose their homes; they just can't afford it. 


I'm not economics major or anything, so these are just very simple viewpoints from a tax-paying, law-abiding, home-owning citizen. 




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The poor are making out like bandits!

 Struggling States Cut Healthcare for Poor

by: Noam N. Levey, The Los Angeles Times


States are slashing health services to their poorest residents amid the economic downturn. (Photo: Owen Franken / Corbis)



    The unprecedented reductions come as millions are losing their jobs and insurance. They are so steep that the federal rescue package may not be able to revive them.

    Washington - Even as President-elect Barack Obama plans an ambitious push to expand health coverage nationwide, states are slashing health services to their poorest residents amid the economic downturn.

    The unprecedented cuts in public assistance come as millions of Americans are losing their jobs and health insurance.

    In many cases, the cuts are so deep that even the massive federal rescue package being assembled on Capitol Hill may not be enough to restore services being eliminated in the burgeoning crisis, health officials warn.

    And the faltering economy has all but killed trailblazing state campaigns to expand coverage for the working poor - once seen as hopeful signs for national health care reform.

    Illinois' senior citizens are facing the traumatic prospect of being moved from nursing homes teetering on the edge of bankruptcy as the homes wait for months to be paid by the floundering state government.

    South Carolina has cut treatment for low-income women under 40 with breast or cervical cancer and stopped providing nutritional supplements for people with kidney failure.

    In southern Nevada, cancer patients without health coverage no longer have a place to get chemotherapy after the state's largest public hospital stopped providing outpatient oncology services.

    "This is exactly the time when we should be beefing up services," said Anthony Wright, executive director of Health Access California, a leading consumer advocacy group. "Instead, we are unraveling the safety net to the point where it may not be possible to stitch it back together again."

    Congressional Democrats hope to begin offering some help today, as the House takes up legislation to expand the popular State Children's Health Insurance Program, a top priority of the incoming administration.

    The expansion, which could extend coverage to an additional 4 million low-income children, was vetoed twice by President Bush in 2007, but is expected to easily win approval now.

    Lawmakers on Capitol Hill are also at work on a stimulus package that could include as much as $100 billion to bail out Medicaid, the primary federally funded health program for the poor administered by the states.

    That aid package is expected to require states to maintain some of the medical services currently on the chopping block, though it may come too late to reverse many cuts already made.

    Lawmakers plan additional assistance to help Americans keep their health insurance if they lose their jobs.

    But even some congressional leaders concede the help will be insufficient. "Let's be honest," said Sen. Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.), a close Obama ally. "We won't be able to save every soul here."

    At least 44 states are facing budget shortfalls over the next two years totaling more than $350 billion, according to a recent survey by the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities, a liberal Washington-based think tank.

    Unable to run deficits like the federal government, states have been scrambling for months to cut aid to schools, universities and, increasingly, residents who rely on the state for medical care.

    Nationwide, roughly 60 million low-income people -- half of them children -- use the Medicaid program to get some form of healthcare, including basic physician services, prescription drugs, X-rays, dental care and even hospice care.

    Some of those services are now in jeopardy.

    Florida is poised to cut its home services for poor senior citizens, such as bathing and meal preparation, as nearly 19,000 seniors in the state are on a waiting list to get the care rather than be sent to nursing homes.

    Utah lawmakers are looking at cutting public health programs and eliminating coverage for about 20,000 low-income people who rely on the state-funded Utah Primary Care Network.

    "The scale of this is unprecedented," said AARP Vice President Elaine Ryan, who has spent nearly three decades working on health policy at the state and federal level. "I really have never seen anything like this."

    Some states have tried to avoid cuts in services by delaying or reducing payments to doctors and other medical providers who treat low-income patients.

    This is taking a toll, however, as a growing number of providers stop treating those with state-funded insurance.

    Nevada's largest county closed its outpatient oncology clinic last year, citing decreases in Medicaid funding for treating low-income cancer patients.

    Now, advocates in Las Vegas are having to counsel patients to look at getting care by moving to other states where they have relatives.

    "We're essentially creating medical refugees," said Stacey Gross, community programs manager at Susan G. Komen for the Cure of Southern Nevada.

    Melvin Siegel, who operates five nursing homes serving some 400 seniors around Springfield, Ill., said he is close to closing because of slow payments from the state.

    Nursing homes, which rely heavily on Medicaid, often don't have the option of rejecting patients on public assistance.

    "There is no place to go," said Siegel, 79, who said he has borrowed against his home, life insurance and retirement savings to keep in business. "If this falls apart, I'll be penniless. . . . It's never been this bad."


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NO THANKS. Just more lying SUITS.
.
and I'm sure Obama's suits
came from Target, right?


It totally suits me
to call someone a racist who uses words like "halfbreed." That kind of thing makes me sick.


Good point - what about HC's suits.
How come nobody commented on Hillary Clintons outfits. She doesn't shop at Penny/Sears or any of the other stores I do. Her clothes are very expensive but nobody made any comments about her spending money on clothes.
I heard she was told to buy 6 suits - ??? nm
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I wish he would start! nm

Yes, why don't we start with them?

You are definitely the chosen people:  Chosen to be banned from heaven.  This is what the people who pretend to support you really believe.  And it must be true, because according to them, you and I will be spending eternity together, and no doubt that will be hell for us both.


Jerry Falwell: Jews and Muslims Can't Go to Heaven



Jerry Falwell gets further and further out there. His latest knucklehead theory is that Jews and Muslims can't go to heaven.



While I am a strong supporter of the State of Israel and dearly love the Jewish people and believe them to be the chosen people of God, I continue to stand on the foundational biblical principle that all people -- Baptists, Methodists, Pentecostals, Jews, Muslims, etc. -- must believe in the Lord Jesus Christ in order to enter heaven. -Jerry Falwell


March 14, 2006


Wow...where to start....
Yes, I do agree about those entering our country to a point. I believe that they need to have respect for our laws or not be here. Yes, we are a government of the people BY the people. There is no clause that says "unless we don't find that convenient right now."

Respect for those in office...not so much unless it is earned. Respect for their office itself, yes.

Now, I'm not so sure about the rest of your post or where that came from about me believing I have a final word on everything and my way is the only way and that I am a one person catalyst to change. That was really out there, especially for the very little I have posted. I don't care for the daily Kos. I have never said where I get my news. I do not believe everything everyone tells me...actually very little that anyone tells me. My research is very accurate, however. Though I have never posted any of it on this board and have never needed to as I tend to stay out of these little spats because of the level to which they quickly degenerate. I don't mix emotion with politics. That's the wrong road for me and it is my belief that it's a big problem with politics today. People take hot button emotional issues and try to legislate with them and politicize them. BS as far as I'm concerned, and I don't really care what anyone else's opinion is of that.

So! If you want me to answer to all that, you'll have to actually explain what planet or universe it's coming from first because I am at a loss.
Why don't you start? How much do YOU think?
0%, 10%, 20%? Flat tax? Only some types of income? No taxes at all, and we pay as we go for everything, like school, toll roads, police, fire, federal sales tax?
here's a start
Eliminating Wasteful Spending

Stop Earmarks, Pork-Barrel Spending, And Waste: John McCain will veto every pork-laden spending bill and make their authors famous. As President, he will seek the line-item veto to reduce waste and eliminate earmarks that have led to corruption. Earmarks restrict America's ability to address genuine national priorities and interfere with fair, competitive markets.

Leadership, Courage And Choices: Reducing spending means making choices. John McCain will provide the courageous leadership necessary to control spending, including:

Eliminate broken government programs. The federal government itself admits that one in five programs do not perform.


Reform our civil service system to promote accountability and good performance in our federal workforce.


Reform procurement programs and cut wasteful spending in defense and non-defense programs.

Gee....where to start??....
I would close the borders. Nobody in unless comes through the LEGAL channels.

Then I would get rid of Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Jack Murtha, and others who ride their coat tails.

And then I would give myself the power of line item veto.

I could probably list more, but you only wanted 3. LOL.
i should start using a name on here
i was the one who asked about the father's rights and i agreed to your comment.
It may be a start.......... sm
but like I said, I think energy costs and environmental conservation will be the last thing on folks minds in a few short years.
Then I would start with....
taking away the right for christians to assemble.  What you guys don't seem to realize is that when you start taking away rights, it sets a precedence for others to follow.
LOL....that's a start...(sm)

I would mess with you about the foot channel, but since you took the time to agree with me, I'll let it go this time. 


MEOW


But why start
at the bottom?  Why not set an example and tell congress, sorry you are NOT getting your raise?
I think we should all start asking

to speak to an American when we get phone calls or call a place and get an ESL on the line.  Maybe if we refuse to speak to them....they might realize they need to hire some Americans.


 


Are we really going to start this again?
Let it go, already.
Me too! They always start my day off
And we keep some of her posts behind the desk in the Emergency Room, too. They've proven to be reliable emetics in poisoning cases.
I don't know where to start...
Lead him down the right path? and you do that by calling people dysfunctional, disgusting, etc, and all the other things I have seen you post. Patty, I won't argue this with you as I am afraid I may say something pretty unChristian. I am out of here.
That's start of the war in *2003* nm

Again, what if? That was my question to start with.
I'm not accusing anyone, I merely asked *what if*? I can't say with complete certainty that this happened anymore than you can say with complete certainty that it didn't. Minority status is fine with me, given the evidence and pervasive secrecy and lying of this administration. Have a nice day.
Very good start...sm
Thanks for the info LVMT.
What I wanted to know to start with...
is how can I know that Democrats/liberals/the left, WHOEVER, will keep this country safe, when half of them deny there is a threat and the other half have no idea how to deal with it? What I said it was not political, I meant it. Both sides should be trying to protect this country, but frankly I only see one who seems to understand the threat. As I have said numerous times, I am not a registered Repbulican. I am not thrilled with any party in this country right now, but I have to register as SOMETHING to vote, so I am registered independent. Yes, I am conservative, I have conservative moral values and I believe if we had stuck closer to moral values we would have a lot fewer issues these days, but I digress. My concern is, Dem, that I don't think your party and many of its members grasp what a real threat radical Muslims are, and if you don't perceive the threat you don't take steps to fight it, and that is the reason I referred to Clinton, because in all honesty I do not think he perceived the threat. I do not want to think that he did and ignored it. And my point is, I don't think your party to this day perceives the enormity of the threat, and yes, that scares me. This is not rhetoric. This is the way I, me, personally, feel and has nothing to do with left or right Dems or Republicans, other than the Republicans do seem to have a better grasp on the threat than the Dems do. What I would like to see is America united against the threat, with politics out of it. That is what I would REALLY like to see.
Here's why SP need to start vetting
OK. I'll take a crack at breaking this down for you. While SP was building her candidate resume back at the hut in Wasilla, her predecessor in the governor's office teed her off after he SELECTED her (not an elected position) as Chairman of the Ethics Committee. When she started whistle-blowing on those entrenched Juneau cronies, he tended not to take her housekeeping recommendations to heart. Being such a strong and powerful woman, she launched a campaign of her own to take his seat away from him based on her ethics platform. Once in that chair, she spent a great deal of time and taxpayer's money scrapping more than 300 of his development plans in the name of fiscal responsibility and kicked out 30-some-odd of his other appointees, being the woman scorned and all.

FF back to the future. Once JM has ridden to victory on her coattails and puts her back in that token female corner where she belongs, McWayne proceeds to run the same style of corrupt, unethical administration of his mentor, the W. She takes the backseat VP position and waits for him to become incapacitated and gets bored waiting around to cast a tie-breaking vote in the senate. She falls back on the only experience she has…ethics butt-kicking.

She's not afraid to bulldoze her own party members, as her record so clearly indicates, so kick butt she does. If she can't successfully take aim at her boss man, like she did before, maybe JM will simply expire and thrust her up into the Prez chair. Failing that, riding on the crest of the hypnotic spell she has cast over the pub party and taking advantage of the leftover collective amnesia the nation finds itself suspended in the aftermath of the 2008 pub campaign, she mounts a successful pub candidacy for Prez, in which case she will need to choose a running mate. Got the picture?

Oh, REALLY? Like you guys don't start to -sm
soil your panties everytime you come across another person who doesn't think exactly like you in every way?
I know -- but everytime you start to

feel a scintilla of sympathy for them, they lunge at ya with the retracted lips and missing, yellowed teeth.


 


Not to start a race war

People can raise this question over and over again but what I would like to know is this:  Has anyone ever raised the same questions regarding white candidates in this and/or past elections and why people voted for them? Of course not...I wouldn't care if Obama were multicolored - people are going to vote for whomever they choose and I for one am weary of the constant references to race...


Do you just try to start fights?
I asked you a simple question. You got out of whack about it. Yes, I know caps is yelling. I wasn't yelling at you I was yelling because you are making me crazy with your freak out of "stop picking on me!!" Please, grow up. It is unfair for you to make statements without backup. If you can't take someone asking you questions, don't post slander on this board. End of story.
Start at the top and work you way down.
then why not remove yourself from the dialog?
Oh brother - where to start is right.
His father left his mother when he was a baby? Yet Obama was able to write a whole book based on him? He has some communication with Kenyan relatives but not all? Where did you hear this? Wait...from him? Is that his explanation? So where did you study African Tribal Family Structures and the American family strucures? I think maybe people should take a break from the Survivor TV show. If the sheeple want to be led around blindly and actually buy into the same ol retoric of oh poor Obama, he didn't know he had an aunt or a cousin or an uncle because that's the way the "tribes in Africa" are, but he knows about all these others relative (Cheney & Irish ones). Glad I'm awake through all of this. Staying away from Survivor and doing some research does the mind some good.
You could start by considering Lincoln's
and take it from there. Keep in mind, Lincoln was republican. IMHO, Obama could do worse when it comes to mentors.
That was not necessary. Let's not start bashing again
Had enough of that before the election. She voiced an opinion. Let it rest.
And to think, the head of the KKK at the start
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I DID NOT START THIS, THE LYING 'M' DID..n/m
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start a phoney war

Even mr. So? cheney admitted they were going to do it whatever the results of inspections were, let people drown in Katrina, let the terrorists kill 2000 people -- but dodge that shoe, and my, my what a great leader you are.  Groan.  I am so glad the majority of citizens woke up.


 


start a phoney war

Even mr. So? cheney admitted they were going to do it whatever the results of inspections were, let people drown in Katrina, let the terrorists kill 2000 people -- but dodge that shoe, and my, my what a great leader you are.  Groan.  I am so glad the majority of citizens woke up.


 


AND, this is it. The start of government
Before you know it, no more talk shows, no more Christian radio stations, no more Christian music. Just government taking over EVERYTHING.

Dems can say horrible things about Bush, but GOD FORBID IF ANYONE DARE SAYS ANYTHING ABOUT OBAMA.

American is no more. YOU ALL WANTED CHANGE, YOU SURE AS HECK GOING TO GET YOUR CHANGE.
Off to a good start? Do you have a TV?
He's is so NOT off to a good start to the point his white house (MY white house) is being overwhelmed with phone calls of the American people saying NO, NO, NO! They want his stimulus package dumped! How is that off to a good start? Nobody even wants anything so far he has to offer..............
If that's the case, why did you start this one?
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Didn't you start this?
Aren't you the original poster?  Who were you trying to speak for?  Maybe you should follow your own advice.  There are plenty of people who didn't see this as a racial cartoon, but you sure had to put it out there. 
When you start talking about...(sm)
free healthcare, you start getting into the pockets of the drug companies and those they support, and guess who that is. 
That would be a nice start...
but don't see it happening!

Those two morons deserve each other, though. Talk about two people that can open mouth and insert foot.
They are going to HAVE to start arming
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He did not start that term FYI!

He was quoting what others had nicknamed the man already.  You just can't let crazy people be crazy people, can you?  Instead you have to pick some conservative leaning person to blame everything on.  The man who shot Tiller is to blame for this...no one else.


Or how about this....if Tiller had never aborted so many fetuses late term for questionable reasons, other than the mother's health, he never would have been under investigation and he would never have been publically exposed.  So whose fault is this really?  I personally feel that if Tiller had stayed within the guidelines on this, he never would have made nation wide news in the first place.


However, regardless of his actions and whether or not I find them to be disgusting, he still should not have been gunned down.  The man who killed him is a crazy wacko.  No one told him to do it.  He took it upon himself to do it.  He is to blame for his actions....not Bill O'Reilly.  So how about you stop the spin, stop the blame game, and actually make people take responsibility for their own actions.


That is a big problem with our country today.  Too many people pointing the finger at others and not enough people admitting their own faults and taking blame for what they have done.  Much easier to point the finger and blame someone else.


You really don't want to start the war of the videos, do you?
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Then ACORN should start by getting rid of
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I'm going to have to start watching his show...nm

One more question...and I am NOT trying to start a fight....
just curious as to what you mean by "extremely conservative viewpoint?" Could you give examples? I won't even respond if you do not want me to...I just want to know what you consider an extremely conservative viewpoint.

Thanks!
That is a good place to start...
and just outlawing abortion in the case of rape, incest, or endangering the life of the mother would stop 90% of all abortions in this country. Yes, a staggering 90+% of abortions in this country are "oops" abortions...a horrific form of birth control. I personally believe it is wrong for any reason; however, it is even more horrific to be done because someone could not bother to be responsible for her own body. There SHOULD be some responsibility here. As for the developmentally delayed child, who are we to decide whether or not that child's life is miserable? The baby that spurred the Infant Born Alive law had down's syndrome. That's all. Down's syndrome. Have you seen Down's children? Most of them are VERY happy children, the sweetest, kindest, most innocent individuals on the planet. And being a Down's baby was his death sentence. There is no way in this world that is right. No way, no how, not in my books.

Again, we agree to disagree. If you are pro choice, and vote for a law that allows it, you are pro abortion, because you are enabling it. Sadly, you can't have it both ways. And no living thing, I don't care what stage it is in, deserves to be hacked to bits and sucked out of a place where it should be safe. That is horrific, heinous, and it amazes me that anyone with any compassion at all could be pro abortion or pro letting someone choose to do that to another human being.

I will admit it. I was pro life BEFORE I viewed that video...and still that video has FOREVER changed my perception.