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I agree. It's like a sharp stick in the eye, but it's important to

Posted By: keep the discussion and dialog open. nm on 2008-11-09
In Reply to: No, I do not think the moderator should remove...sm - oldtimer

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    One important thing we can all agree on:

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    You are just too sharp fer me! You win! NM

    Truman and Johnson both had sharp minds.

    They may not have been polished but they could think on their own and put an entire sentence together all on their own. Truman, I believe, said **The buck stops here.*** Being a war time president, he took full responsibility for what was going on on his watch for which he was much admired, here and abroad. Johnson gave us civil rights. I did not much like Johnson personally but I admired what he did. He said **I have just given the south to the Republicans** when he signed civil rights into law, but, he had the courage of his convictions and did the right thing, control or no control, votes or no votes. I cannot say the same about the current administration. To them the buck stops anywhere but with them and they would do ANYTHING  to keep their party in control, sacrifice a few seats here and there in order to do the right thing, not in this lifetime, not if it means losing control.


    Interesting you should mention 2 Democrats as unpolished but (I assume) decent presidents.


    It IS important that our president can express himself well. We as a nation look more and more weakened because our leader does not read and  cannot produce a complete sentence to save his soul; and he was elected to be OUR president and the leader of the free world. What does that say about all of us. The more situations deteriorate the more inarticulate he becomes.  America has always been the mediator in the Middle East but this time, the Italians and the French OMG showed up first.  Norway and Greece were the first on the scene to move Americans out of Lebanon. When asked if they were surprised that the first to show up were not Americans, the Americans in Lebanon said ***NO, I mean, look at Katrina. We thought we would be here a long long time.***  I know that many on the right don't care what the world thinks of us but I do and I think it is always best to have allies. This administration just burns bridges. Scary Scary Stuff.


     


    Yes, better stick with
    your characature of Obama because it always makes sense to take something and run with it.
    Have to stick up for him already...nm
    //
    Stick around
    I got a million of  'em.  I'M HERE ALL WEEK, FOLKS!  Be sure to tip your waitress!
    Just stick it to grandma,
    that there medication..she's a fakin'..we'll slash her Medicare benefits! 'Sides we can always borrow more money from China..uh,what's his name? Oh and we'll let the grandkids pay....Huh? What deficit? Hurricanes Katrina, Rita, and the war? Bake sales! Doin' a heckuva job! Just keep dem hands off doze tax cuts! 'Scuse me, gotta do more speechifyin' 'bout what a good job I'm doin'. {{{smirk}}}}

    Ah, the Bush way...good plan. It would be funny if it wasn't so freakin' pathetic. Heaven help us.

    please stick to the issues
    x
    Take this website and stick it
    you know where. We all know PUBS are the ones who cheat. Please, what is wrong with you, really???
    I will stick up for Sam, too. -not a bully.
    nm
    So I should stick myself in a room
    and never go anywhere because it's everyone's right to display sex drugs and violence everywhere? Where is my right to live in a society that doesn't bombard us day and night with those lifestyles?


    The least you could do is stick to the subject...(sm)
    As far as how I could vote for Obama after 911.  Well, probably because he won't go running all over the middle east starting illegal wars in the name of fighting his "the axis of evil."  My guess is once he straightens out Bush's mess, which is a job all by itself, he'll do what this country needs him to do -- restore credibility.
    Did you stick your tongue out at me too?
    x
    I will stick with my moniker...
    Liberal, Pro-Choice, Agnostic.
    Nah....I think I'll stick to the ones...(sm)
    who would encourage violence.  Maybe Hannity -- which violent revolution would you pick was the question on his website.  How about Glenn Beck?  How many people have been killed because of him now?  Loved the gas can circus show, BTW.  And then there's Limpbog -- the defacto leader of the pub party. 
    because conservatives stick to the old,
    boring stuff and it is the independents and liberals that breathe fresh air into life.
    Can we please stick to issues
    And not come here to start a fight. I see a lot of issues being talked about below, and then we have the messages put out evidently to begin a fight with the "you republicans".

    I want to hear about health care issues, TARP, job loss, Iran, and other issues affecting my life. Not the rantings of lunatics who want to instigate something.

    For all those who are "you republicans" there are equal who are "you democrats".

    Issues people, issues.
    I think he should stick to his speech writers.
    I can't hardly believe something as potentially volatile was discussed amongst that staff before he let that one go! Personally, I think its nothing more than a diversion to get people thinking and talking about something other than the war in Iraq.
    Enough. Stick the with political discussions..

    If your posts are directed towards posters and NOT a political issue or discussion, you will be banned.  We've asked nicely, we've posted it on here. 


     


    YOU DON'T HAVE TO AGREE, just stop the childish behavior of attacking people on this board. 


    ...except for all those straight-laced, stick-up-their
    @rses republican biddies. They think anyone who isn't just like them is a witch. Sometimes it feels like Salem all over again.
    OK. You stick with equating O with satan and
    Like I said before. Gloom and doom does not seem to be working for the camp.
    Sorry, Tech - but why don't you stick up for yourself with these no-nothing harpies? nm
    NM
    Where's my dead horse beating stick???
    The US went to war with Iraq for a number of reasons, including concern over Saddam's failure to account for WMDs, which put him in violation of the treaty that ended Gulf War I, and violation of several UN resolutions - I can never remember if it was 14 or 17.

    If you really want an answer to this question, a search for the resolution permitting use of force in Iraq should be relatively easy. I'm not sure it's worthwhile, though, since the matter is essentially moot, since we are there now.

    My question to you: There is a lot of discussion lately about possibly increasing troop levels in Iraq to try to bring the security situation under control. What are your thoughts on that? Do you support it? Would you support it if you could be persuaded that there was a reasonable possibility of success?

    Personally, I'm a bit ambivalent. I don't have a problem supporting more troops, but I think it's as much a PC problem as a troop number problem in Iraq. In other words, I don't think US forces can do much to bring security to Iraq if they are forced to always act in the most P.C. manner possible so as not to risk offending any single faction or, heaven forbid, creating negative spin in the press.

    I certainly think we could be effective there in securing the country, but only if we realize that we might have to leave a heavy footprint in Iraq in order to accomplish that goal. For example, I think we should have taken out al Sadr, even if it meant leveling significant portions of Sadr City, when he first became a major underming influence to the new Iraqi government. Some may think that makes me a flag-waving member of the Death Squad, but I have to wonder how many lives could have been spared in the long run had we stamped al Sadr out then, when we had a good tactical opportunity and could have done so fairly easily.

    If we're going to send our troops over there in harm's way to fight for the security of Iraq, the dream of democracy, and the creation of a competing vision for the future of the Middle East, then we must let them fight to win.

    Oh please, spare the drama and stick to facts.
    g
    Nice post. Stick to the facts and away from...
    the "opinion" pieces for your information. Watch the pundits and commentators for entertainment. lol.
    RW should stick to comedy and leave politics out
    I saw him interviewed on the Graham Norton show. He was about drooling at the mere mention of the name Obama. His eyes glazed over and you could almost see him enter a trance. I like RW as a comedian very much. Funny as anything and I will LMAO at his comedy routines, but when he starts interjecting his opinion of politics, well lets just say he should stick to comedy and funny voices. That's what he does best. I do agree with the poster who said "another ignorant celebrity". Many of them are ignorant about the issues. 98% of the Hollyweird people live in their own little world and don't know what it's like to live in the real world like we do. But they think because they have millions, live in mansions, and that their fans worship the ground they walk on they are more knowledgeable about politics. Unfortunately because RW spouts off at the mouth with his little knowledge of politics, it really ruins it if he acts in a movie. Very similar to Tom Cruise and his Scientology taking over his life. Doesn't make me want to watch any of his movies.
    Your stick-up-your-butt rigidity and intolerance -
    What goes around, comes around, and people who think with their retentive anuses instead of their minds, usually get what's coming to them in the end. So if that's the thinking and the politics you align with, then I'm just so very happy for you.

    You've been spouting off for weeks with reams and reams of copied and linked material that you think was written by God himself. You criticise every post that suggests that the poster is of another party, or even that they are open to ideas other than YOURS.

    And the REALLY sad thing is, you actually think that what you write actually MATTERS, and that people listen to what you say and think, and that they actually care. Well know what? Most people on here don't give a flying F_ _ K what you think.
    Cant' you stick to issues and not personally attack
    Bwaaaahaaaaahaaaaa.
    Then maybe you should stick to facts, substance and issues
    The liberals attack those who do not agree with them. And it's not attacks on issues or facts it's personal name calling attacks.


    I stick by my statement - doesn't make it right
    And the lady who set fire to him is just as bad as he is.
    You just stick with the Communist News Ninnies. That's more
    O'Reilly sometimes uses three-syllable words, so you wouldn't be interested.
    I understand the night stick guy was made to leave. sm
    And, while I do question the other guy's right to wear whatever he wants if that "whatever" includes an political activist statement such as Black Panther regalia, my MAIN question is where this pole is being held. Are residential buildings considered appropriate places for voting polls for national elections?
    Stomp and whine then stick your hand out.........figures.........nm
    x
    Is Newt your president? Lets stick with the present
    There is about to be an explosion of spending and for those that really do work and think they won't be paying taxes, think again! You could only use half your brain or whatever is lucid and understand the ONLY way to pay for that kind of spending is by EVERYONE who works to pay taxes.

    You really need to get off your one-party tunnel vision way of thinking, and I would say think like an individual, but I can see you are a follower of Obama, and as we all know, most of them have never thought for themselves.

    I'm an independent......sure as heck didn't want a totalitarian government in power and if I had to choose between Newt and that backside kisser we have in office now, I'd choose Newt....


    Too bad we're stuck with Obama and his crooked cronies!!

    I feel it safe to say you have never had an independent thought in your life.....


    Abuse of Power charges stick to Palin like glue.

    So, what goes around comes around.  After a hard week out on that campaign trail attacking Obama right, left and center, seems Sarah has a character issue of her own now to deal with.  Oops!   


    Can you stick to the subject EVER? Oh wait, i'm unfairly attacking you by asking what you read,
    nm
    Sure, my little Hitler mustache, or landing strip or fish stick...whatever
    you wish to call it. Sorry you can't afford your own razors.
    hahahah!! You are so insecure that you do not even dare to post a username and STICK to it..nm
    nm
    more important to you?
    Excuse me, more important to you than me?  No, it is more important to ME.  You are an onlooker, it is my blood.
    He has just never been that important to me.. nm
    nm
    So are dad's not as important?

    Is this what you are suggesting because I do believe some of SP's children are older than Obama's and yet no one seems to be spatting about him leaving his children to run for president.  Of SP's 5 children....only 2 are younger....which is the same number of young children Obama has.  Yet it seems to be okay with everything that he just let Michelle Obama raise their children while he runs around the country to be prez.  Why is it not acceptable that Todd Palin take care of the two younger children while his wife tries to make this country better....including for her children.  Why....because Todd is the dad and he should be out working while SP stay at home cooking, cleaning, taking care of the kids.........seriously....who time warped us back to the 50s?


    Oh I see....what was more important than ....
    the Katrina victims at that point? Looks like I need to go to the senate site and see what Biden and Obama felt was so important they had to vote for the bridge.

    People WERE suffering from Katrina and they had a chance to vote for it. They chose not to. Where does integrity come in? Where is country first, party second? What was so all-fired important they voted FOR a huge earmark for a bridge and against help for Katrina victims?

    As as for pork...it is added by BOTH parties and that is what McCain/Palin seek to stop. Plus earmarks for personal gain...like Obama earmarking a million bucks for his wive's employer...who had just that month DOUBLED her salary.

    Face it...Obama is old Washington politics, just like Biden is. There is no change there. Same old washington politics. He has demonstrated throughout his career. Yes, other politicians do it. That is exactly what I am talking about.

    It is time it stopped, and the only people who have ANY history of bucking their own party to do that are McCain/Palin. Now THERE is change you can believe in.
    Well, I think it is more important when the man...
    running on the ticket with you only a few months ago voiced the opinion that you were not qualified for the job...however...in a strict changing your story view, yes. Weighing the importance of the two issues (lipstick on a pig and your #2 saying you were not qualified for the job) is up to the reader.
    How is this not important?
    I know that, on the surface, it's really easy to write this off as a nonissue. But I would ask that, regardless of party, everyone stop for a moment and consider what it MEANS.

    It means that a make-up artist was more important to the McCain campaign than any other adviser or staff member. It's representative of shallowness and wasteful excess. It shows clear skewed judgment in what's important in our nation.

    And, frankly, it was clearly wasteful expenditure. Palin looked perfectly fine before the excessive celebrity life the campaign brought to her. There was no need for this. She's an attractive woman, and absolutely not in need of this Paris Hilton-esque extravagance.

    Why the campaign and RNC thought it would make her more "popular" is pretty head-scratching. Instead, they just made themselves look like, well, the type of people who aren't really "for" the middle class after all. The type of people who think style is more important than substance.

    Is it?
    Why this is important...(sm)

    If Bush is not tried for his crimes, it sets a precedence for successive abuse of power....even for Obama.  As a country, until we acknowledge and correct our shortcomings we cannot move forward.  What do you think the rest of the world will say if we don't do something about it?  We talk alot about justice and being fair, but until we can show that we are willing to uphold those ideals we are no better than the ones who would commit those crimes.


    The economy is the focus right now, and yes, it should be dealt with first and foremost, and that is being done.  But that is not to say that we cannot accomplish other things at the same time.  If they do go after Bush, all Obama has to do is step aside and not stop the preceedings.  This is all about the judicial branch of government, not the White House.


    Translation: I watch a lot of Fox News and stick strictly to party rhetoric.nm
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    I'm waiting for racist wife Michelle to stick her foot in her mouth....

    Seems pretty important to me
    Well, if his trustee is saying Frist was updated regularly on his blind trust, I kind of think that is something.  It is a formal investigatinn by the SEC.  I kind of think that is something. 
    Yeah, you wish you were important enough
    for somebody to be spying on you....does your paranoia know no bounds?  
    BUt that's the most important thing to me....

    Unfortunately not all news sources are created equal and unbiased.


    As far as things changing over time.....it seems that things have to change as new information is brought to light.  Ask Colin Powell.  We have to adapt and change with this new information. 


    Can't find your quote from Russert to Cheney anywhere on the internet.


    As far as Tenet's slam-dunk comment, the people at that meeting were Bush, Cheney, and CIA-director John McLaughlin.....oh, and you.  Couldn't find any female names mentioned in that meeting, however.


    As far as the 747 fuselage in the desert....could only find a handful of references to it on the whole internet and none were compelling and again, most were from far right wing publications.


    I feel a story is only as truthful as its source and sometimes the truthfulness of a story can never be completely determined.  You say the source doesn't matter, I say it is EVERYTHING.  Reflect upon North Korea today, former communist Russia and China even today....all highly censored government news sources. Those folks will never get the real story and heaven knows it's hard enough to get it in a free country like the US.


    much too important to go unread

    brought up from below.


     


    It's long been a safe assumption that U.S. troops generally vote Republican. And with Vietnam war hero John McCain leading the GOP presidential ticket, many pundits expect the military to favor the Republicans with their wallets, too. But so far, Barack Obama appears to be leading his rival by a 6-to-1 margin in campaign contributions from deployed troops. The nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics reports that Obama has collected just over $60,000 from deployed troops compared to McCain's $10,000 in figures up to June 30.