I find it difficult to tolerate stupidity.
Posted By: nm - Starcat on 2005-12-21
In Reply to: Well, there's a healthy dose of liberal tolerance for ya - rr
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I I find it difficult to take anything that ..
O'Reilly says to heart. His demeanor is the true definition of a blowhard bully. I tend to tune out when people are screaming at me or really dishing out the hate stuff. Having said that, I do not believe that the Marine thing is about **good** or **bad** apples. War is an unnatural state. War without end is even worse. I don't know any details - none of us do - but in a setting where soldiers are deployed and redeployed and redeployed over and over in a hostile tribal environment where they do not know who is friend or foe, this tragedy does not come as a surprise. I certainly don't condone this, no one would, but I understand how it could happen and I believe that if it did happen that those involved are not necessarily **bad apples.** Everyone keeps saying that 99.9% of the military are exemplary soldiers. I am not so sure that those involved are not as well. Gross mismanagement of the troops, a complete lack of understanding of the tribal nature of Iraq, in other words, a failure from the Pentagon on down would be the culprit in my opinion. These are the people who should be held accountable but that, of course, will not happen. A few very low-on-the-totem-pole soldiers will be the scapegoats in this and generals and civil service Pentagon folks will just walk away. I am still waiting for the dogs from Abu Ghraib to be indicted. That is just about how inept and ridiculous the management of the war has been. As far as Murtha goes...I believe he truly believes what he says and is extremely concerned about the troops themselves, the real people fighting on the real ground in real Iraq. I think he speaks from his heart and could care less about payback or whatever. I think that he is frustrated and angry and feeling helpless as many of us are over a situation that has good outcome possible.
I find it difficult
to believe so many of you really feel Obama is just pretending to care about people and is some sort of terrorist. Do you really believe that or just trying to keep things stirred up?
It is so unbecoming.
why do you find that so difficult?
Do you honestly believe he has your best interests at heart? Do you honestly feel totally safe when you see his past associations and review his record? I don't find that unbecoming; I find it scary....that so many people can be taken in and ignore so much that should be questioned and should make them nervous. Why is the rest of the world so invested in seeing him as the next president? I don't think it's because they want what is best for the US, do you???
About the only one you do *tolerate*
is Lurker. I've seen you be very mean to most others. I suppose my guard was up because of the way you usually do treat others. To be treated with dignity and respect in the pursuit of intelligent debate wasn't something I expected to receive from you, and if I became defensive simply because I wasn't expecting you to be respectful, then I apologize. I must say, though, that my reaction to your sudden niceness is skeptical and very guarded, very much in the same way my reaction to the UAE suddenly deciding to stop supporting terrorism and becoming the U.S.'s trusted *friend* is skeptical and very guarded.
If you are sincere in having an honest intelligent debate, without name-calling or nastiness, then please, by all means, feel free to address my post regarding the subject matter of the UAE.
No, you don't tolerate anyone
Before the moderator requested that we stay on our own boards, I posted twice at your board and was crucified, so, no, you are not tolerant at all; I have first-hand experience in this.
What would be truly comical, if it wasn't INSANE, is how you and the cons who post at your board trash people like Moore and Sheehan for **lying**, yet it's alright with you for the people with the REAL power to lie endlessly and never take **responsibility** for their actions.
We don't have to tolerate
sick, dysfunctional, sinful behavior, only the people who engage in it.
Let's get it straight. I will not tolerate
continued slamming of the President and this country. Ask yourself what you're really gaining by doing so. My political affiliation has NO bearing on this whatsoever. I expect people to behave appropriately on all forums. ForuMatrix is a website that is open to the entire world, not just the US and I am ashamed of some of what I read knowing that people in other countries are reading it too. Don't think for a minute that I am only pointing out the Liberal board. Far from it. I've had to come down on some posters on the Conservatives board, too. So, what this all comes down to is that respectful posting will be adhered to or I won't allow posting. We need to go back to old fashioned VALUES, if we think that way then the words we write won't be as cutting. You may not agree with me and that is your prerogative and I am not trying to censor you, rather I would prefer that you and others post in kind and with respect.
Not really sure what you mean by difficult...
maybe illegal aliens should have a class for Americans. They seem to be able to get on all the programs, no problem. The SCHIP program for children for one. That is one of the loopholes in the present bill that all the hooplah is about...that Bush asked to be taken out of the bill before it was sent to him. He and the Republicans in Congress also asked that the Democrats vote to extend the program for 6 months to a year as it exists now and look into a better plan for renewing and re-funding. But the Democrats refused. Now what in the world would it have hurt to leave it as is for 6 months and work out a plan so that the expansion of the program would expand to take in American citizens vs illegals, and make sure that the correct income requirements were enforced? Why is that such a bad thing?
Well, I know this may be difficult for you to
but I picked up the phone and asked the district this was filed in..... duh?
This is not rocket science. If you don't wanna know the truth, you won't look for it.
Wasting my time here.
Difficult to tell, Starcat
Your post was not very clear - glad you are not anti-French
Agree, you'd think as difficult as our job
is to learn that MTs would actually have some brains and common sense, but there are some real whackjobs on here lately!
Why they made it so difficult is
beyond me. Unless they made it difficult on purpose so it would be easier for people to "make mistakes." I just don't get it.
Is it too difficult for you to read
the links I provided regarding copyright law? Or, is it simply a matter of wanting to argue? I don't really care what you posted, I provided links for everyone's benefit instead of posturing.
Really . . . the stupidity of it all
This is one of the most disappointing yet of all the posts I have read on this board. So much debate over a stupid pin. Maybe he just doesn't want to lower himself to be like the other the cookie-cutter officials who wear a "symbol" in order to appease the multitudes of small-minded people in this country that actually think that is an indication of someone's "patriotism". As a whole, people in this country are clueless as to what the rest of world is about, they are greedy, self-absorbed, a bunch of sheep and spoiled as the day is long, and the founders of our constitution are rolling in their graves over how we have butchered our "freedoms" that they fought so hard to uphold!! Wake up, America!!!
Cannot believe the stupidity
Obama is not selling the coins and plates and all the other souvenir junk you dopes! I am stunned that America elected George not once but twice, but when I read this board I can understand why. 50 million idiots have not gone away. You're still here.
are there any for your stupidity? I'm not into the
nm
let this thread die. The stupidity
of it speaks louder than any response trying to explain things because they don't "understand" They want to keep the subject off the issues.
Unless you are into stupidity, you will only need 20 seconds
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Must have missed the part where this stupidity was
nm
Unfortunately, Sanfords stupidity kind of took over, but sm
MSNBC (I know you all love it) is still reporting quite fervently on what is going on there. The report about the axes is very disturbing. I think no one really knows how many people have really been executed -- not to mention the fact that the Iranian soccer team members that showed their support the other week have now been banned from the team for life. I guess Fox is way too busy with their Obama hate-fest to bother with something as insignificant as world news.
Nope - can only impeach, and unfortunately stupidity
...and neither is tearing off your mask once you're in office and revealing yourself to be a flaming socialist, contrary to the things you said on the campaign trail. You'd think that would be impeachable, wouldn't you? Running as one thing and then revealing yourself to be something else?
It's very difficult to qualify for welfare these days. It is the rich getting
xx
Incompetence and stupidity rearing its ugly
2100 more fraudulent voter registrations already uncovered as of today, but lets not blame ACORN for that, those wonderful caring nonracial folks.
Fraudulent is their middle name.
people who hide behind God for bad manners and stupidity irk me
NM
Self pity, stupidity and appalling ignorance
Time to party now. Go wallow why don't ya?
find out. I find sam's posts to the point
nm
I couldn't find that one but I did find this
S.Amdt.4170: To protect families, family farms and small businessees by extending the income tax rate structure, raising the death tax exemption to $5 million and reducing the maximum death tax rate to no more than 35%; to keep education affordable extending the college tuition deduction; and to protect senior citizens from higher taxes on their retirement income, maintain U.S. financial market competitiveness, and promote economic growth by extending the lower tax rates on dividents and capital gains.
NAY: Biden and Obama YEA: McCalin
I.E., this is in the voting record in the public records. There are not too many voting records there for the O since he started his campaign and most of those he voted NAY or say Not Voting.
Well, then, please find me one that you find to be racist.
I am not stalking YOU, I am stalking your stupidity..
That's what you are: Stupid.
Maybe I will get banned for telling the truth, but that's what you are, you have proven it over and over again....
What did McCain say during his appearance on the Jay Leno show?
'AMERICA DOES NOT WANT TO HAVE A SORE LOSER!'
YOU SHOULD FOLLOW HIS EXAMPLE
AND ADVICE.
Find it yourself...
I used to answer all of these posts requiring that I go back and find the names and dates and places of anything that I posted to prove what I was saying. What usually happened was that it would still be discounted for some reason or another as biased, meaningless or just untrue so I have stopped reresearching for the nonbelievers. I read papers. I watch news shows. I watch senate proceedings. David Gergen, Ed Gillespie, William Buckley, Susan Collins, Peter King, Bill Bennett are a few off the top of my head but if you need proof, you do the legwork. I assure you it is out there. C-SPAN is a good source. You can see and hear them in action.
You know what I find to be
OFF-THE-WALL mindboggling about the king's apologists/cultists is that they shriek about illegal immigration with *They're breaking the LAW!*....hmmm, so they don't hold their king to the standard they expect from noncitizens of this country? It's hard work drinking all that Kool-Aid!
Meanwhile, Cheney claims he hasn't seen the senate report re: no connection between Osama and Saddam, and Rice insists there WERE ties and it was all Tenet's fault. HUH?! So now I'm wondering, does this mean Tenet has to return his medal of freedom? After all, it's not like he said he was pressured to manufacture the intelligence to suit Bush and Co.
Took me a while to find this....
And Clinton is a serial rapist. So what is your point? sm
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Posted By: Brunson on 2006-05-03,
In Reply to: Hitchens is a public and private severe alcoholic - Mind
Everyone knows that Hitchens is an alcoholic. You are adding nothing to this conversation. Act like an adult or leave.
I cannot find it
but I have also seen a picture where Obama is standing on a platform with other people who are pledging allegiance to our beautiful flag with their hand over their hearts, and Obama is just standing there. This is the picture that really made me wonder what this guy is made of, where he is coming from, and where he wants to take us!
I find it odd.....
I find it odd that people won't follow the constitution written about 200 years ago by our founding fathers (people we know what they looked like). They say it's old and archaic and has no place in today's world - times have changed.
Yet...they will follow the bible word for word that was written around 1500 to 400 BC. - which by the way was written by men keeping in the parts they wanted to and not putting in other parts they didn't want to.
Where is the sanity?
why can't they find them?
They have to put the info into a computer somewhere? Why can't it just tell them that it is invalid - my local office was able to tell me within 24 hours that I was okay to vote this year.
Where did you find this?
xx
Once again, you only want to find something to
X
Won't be able to find you and your ilk. You;ll be
living under the same rock you crawled out from under. Bye-Bye, sad Brad.
If you can't find them...well (sm)
you obviously have a problem already. Sources I've used include a direct link to the US Senate, factcheck.org (an organization that even Fox uses), going to bills/legistation directly....etc.
We can find these all day...
long, but until you actually look at McCain's voting record, posts like this (including the one below) are nothing but opinion.
http://vetsforobama.org/
The ones I find concerning:
AIDE TO IRAN'S AYATOLLAH ALI KHAMENEI, ALI AGHAMOHAMMADI
"The president-elect has promised changes in policies. There is a capacity for the improvement of ties between America and Iran if Obama pursues his campaign promises, including not confronting other countries as Bush did in Iraq and Afghanistan, and also concentrating on America's state matters and removing the American people's concerns."
In other words, sit down with us with no preconditions and let's powwow.
RUSSIAN DEPUTY FOREIGN MINISTER GRIGORY KARASIN
"The news we are receiving on the results of the American presidential election shows that everyone has the right to hope for a freshening of US approaches to all the most complex issues, including foreign policy and therefore relations with the Russian Federation as well."
In other words, come into my parlor said the spider to the fly...
The rest kind of backs up his citizen of the world mantra. Will wait and watch for how that plays out.
The one I find amusing:
SUDANESE FOREIGN MINISTRY SPOKESMAN ALI AL-SADIG
"We don't expect any change through our previous experience with the Democrats. When it comes to foreign policy there is no difference between the Republicans and the Democrats."
LOL
They won't find it. LOL (nm)
I always find that the most
vociferous against religion are the ones who are so afraid there is a God that when their time comes and their life is judged, they know what's coming, and feel guilty for the life they are leading.
I don't want to find out what comes after
trillion but if our government continues to spend the money, I fear we may find out the hard way. All I've heard about is how Bush doubled our deficit in 8 years. Well, Obama has been in office not even a full month and wants to add 1 trillion dollars to it....although he continues to say 800 billion in his charismatic speeches. I'm also so tired of the blame game. Obama himself made sure in his speech last night at the democratic retreat (which, BTW, taxpayers helped pay for, thanks O) to mention that government is a group of people throwing out ideas and it isn't one person dictating everything. Yet he continues to blame one person, Bush, for our crisis. This crisis has been a long time coming people and started before Bush, although he didn't help either. I blame government as a whole and I intend to hold both dems and pubs feet to the fire and since the dems are currently in control......they are most definitely getting more criticism from me because they are in charge at this point. Doesn't mean I'm not keeping an eye on the pubs too cuz Lord knows there are crooks in both parties.
Find it For Yourself
.
what I did find out
Each province administers their own so perhaps what I said in jest is actually true. Montreal has figured out something Ontario has not. It seems some provinces have got this down pat, no long waits, no refusal of particular cares, etc., etc., etc., and their residents are extremely satisfied. Costs are quite low, can be as low as $98 per month for a family of four, which covers basically everything except prescriptions. Not to worry, however, as prescription costs are much lower in Canada. Plus most employers cover the full cost for their employees (not the prescriptions but the insurance). All the things we hear of as awful are just not true - in some provinces. However, in other provinces they are true - long waits, no care, etc., etc., etc. If we could but have the good parts of their plan!
Does anyone else find it
interesting that Obama ridiculed McCann for taxing healthcare benefits during his campaign and yet that is now something on the table Obama is considering to help fund his healthcare reform. Funny how something that was once ridiculous to him is now something okay to do and how dare we question him.
Once again.....why aren't democrats holding Obama's feet to the fire here? Lie after lie and broken promise after broken promise. If anyone from any other party flip flopped and lied like this....you guys would crucify him/her. What gives?
Okay, now that I know where to find it...
has anyone read this crap? I'm about 100 pages in and none of it sounds good yet.
Have I just not gone far enough to get to the good part?
Where did gt do that? Show me please because I can't find it.
I find it hard to believe you don't see it.
Couldn't find it.
All I could find on that board was complaining and whining about liberals and how they're all terrible and godless, etc., etc. 'Nuff said. 
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