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I guess Henry Ford and Churchill were big fat liars, too, gt. sm

Posted By: MT on 2005-07-20
In Reply to: Hitler - gt

MARCH OF THE TITANS -


A HISTORY OF THE WHITE RACE


Chapter 64:The Racial State - The Third Reich


Part Four: The "Final Solution": Nazi Policy towards Jews


The Third Reich and Adolf Hitler will always be associated with an outburst of anti-Jewish sentiment not seen since the Crusades or the Middle Ages. Despite countless books and films having been created on the actual anti-Jewish activities themselves, almost none have focused on trying to explain why Hitler and the Nazi Party were anti-Jewish.


Nazi anti-Jewishness was based on three pillars:


• First, Jews were identified with political subversion and Communism in particular. (See chapter 61:"Jews and Communism") As outlined earlier, this sentiment was by no means a Nazi invention, and had been written about in public by Winston Churchill and a host of others including Henry Ford in America;  the political subversion of which Jews were accused ranged from the fantastic (the Protocols of Zion) to the promotion of pornography, racial mixing, degenerate art ("modern art") and other issues identified as problematic by the Nazis;







Above: Nazi propaganda  depicting Jews (Stars of David); Capitalism, (Dollar Signs) and Communism (Hammer and Sickles) all as part of the disease under inspection.


• Secondly, the Nazis associated Jews with super capitalism and economic exploitation. This descended directly from the traditional and pre-Christian objections to Jews. Hitlerian anti-Jewishness also accentuated the links between Jewish super capitalists and Communism, personified by the financing of the 1917 Russian Revolution by the American Jewish banker Jacob Schiff; and


• Thirdly, the Nazis associated Christianity with Jews, arguing that this religion was the product of Middle Eastern thought and not native Europe. The Nazis did not however dare to attack Christianity openly, rather leaving it alone to wither by itself, something that has to a large degree started to become reality by the end of the 20th century. Nonetheless, if the private comments of Hitler himself on Christianity are read, it can be seen that Hitler clearly identified Christianity with Jews.


 Only in this light can an understanding of the motivating factors behind the state that Hitler created be gained: a tradition of anti-Semitism going back centuries, modern political thought associating Jews with Communism and subversion, the degradation of Germany under the Treaty of Versailles, economic collapse, and the outstanding oratorical ability of Hitler himself. All of these factors combined to propel the Nazi Party to power in 1933.




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    Lots of articles on Churchill and Henry Ford and sm
    Jews and communism.  It doesn't matter if the pillars were made of salt (of course, history tells us that they were eventually).  It matters that historically this was what Hitler built his Reich on.  This is indisuptable and absolute.  Henry Ford's hatred for Jews was legendary, BECAUSE of communism. 
    I guess it's only ok when pubs call the cia liars? (sm)

    You guys really need to get a grip.  By the way, exactly what do plan to accomplish if you could prove that Pelosi did know about torture?  And if you're looking for some sort of payback for taking down Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld, would that not also apply to every other senator (pub and dem) in those briefings?  What you guys are doing are playing partisan politics and failing miserably at it.


    http://thinkprogress.org/2009/05/20/gingrich-hoekstra/


    Ward Churchill.

    Ward Churchill is not a half breed.  It has come out since his statements after 9/11 that the tribe he was supposed to have belonged to, he didn't at all.  The fact is, he was an *honorary* member and he is not Native American at all. They have since disowned him.  In other words, it was a lie.  He is a fake.   He used his supposed Native American status to take advantage of Affirmative Action in order to get through school.  He is also a plagarist. A little about Ward Churchill. Lurker, you may well be the only Native American who still thinks Ward Churchill is Native American other than himself. 



    • Professor of Ethnic Studies at University of Colorado, Boulder
    • Regards the victims of 9/11 as Little Eichmanns
    • Regards America as a genocidal nation
    • Falsified his Indian background to qualify for an affirmative action position in Ethnic Studies
    • Accused of plagiarism
    • Lamented that the terrorism of 9/11 proved insufficient to accomplish its purpose of destroying the United States. Commented: What the h**l? It was worth a try.



    Thanks in large measure to the impassioned public outcry prompted by an invitation to speak at Hamilton College to replace the previously invited convicted terrorist Susan Rosenberg, the disquieting (but by no means untypical) aspects of Ward Churchill's career became common knowledge. The hundreds of professors and thousands of students who supported him in the wake of the public outcry are an indication of the degree to which Churchill is the symbol of a much larger problem.


    Ward Churchill has a BA and MA in Communications from Sangamon State, an experimental school for student radicals in Illinois. His academic expertise is as an artist. Yet on the basis of his claim to be a member of the Ketoowah Cherokee tribe (it has since been revealed that the membership was honorary and has been revoked and that Churchill is not an Indian) the PhD-less Churchill was made a tenured Professor of Ethnic Studies at the University of Colorado Boulder and head of the Department.


    Professor Churchill's moment of fame came when an essay he had written was disclosed in which he waxed rhapsodic about the September 11 terrorist attacks as chickens coming home to roost, while vilifying the innocent victims inside the World Trade Center as little Eichmanns. The article was known to UC Boulder officials long before, and considered normal academic fare. Less well known is the fact that Professor Churchill's academic career and academic oeuvre was built around the theory that the United States is a genocidal nation, worse than Nazi Germany because its genocides began with its settlement and have continued to the present.


    Professor Churchill regards American history as one unbroken procession of genocidal tyranny, beginning in 1492, which unleashed a process of conquest and colonization unparalleled in the history of humanity. Always ready to draw sinister parallels with Nazism, Churchill routinely equates Columbus with Gestapo chief Heinrich Himmler. He titled a 1997 book A Little Matter of Genocide: Holocaust and Denial in the Americas, 1492 through the Present. Other Churchill books, among them Fantasies of the Master Race (1992) and Colonization and Genocide in Native North America (1994), also equate the United States with Nazi Germany. Past students at the University of Colorado have reported that Churchill's conception of America as the newest rendition of the Third Reich invariably finds its way into his lectures, particularly in the undergraduate class he teaches titled, American Holocaust.


    While defending his notorious article and utterances as free speech, Professor Churchill himself has been accused of stifling -- once by violent means -- speech he did not like. In 1993, following his ouster from the radical American Indian Movement, Churchill reportedly retaliated by spitting in the face of the Movement''s elderly leader, Carol Standing Elk, while a younger accomplice broke her wrist. Ten years later, Professor Churchill and his political allies attempted to obstruct a Columbus Day Parade in Denver. He was acquitted by like-minded judges who accepted his claim that a parade celebrating Columbus was tantamount to hate speech.


    In Professor Churchill's view, revolutionary violence against oppressive America is not only justified, it is indispensable. One of the things I've suggested is that it may be that more 9/11s are necessary. This seems like such a no-brainer that I hate to frame it in terms of actual transformation of consciousness. Lamenting that the terrorism of 9/11 had proved insufficient to accomplish its purpose of bringing the United States to its knees, Churchill shrugged, What the hell? It was worth a try. 


    When I started out it was 'U.S. out of Vietnam,' he declared in an August 2004 speech, and then that was changed and it became 'U.S. out of Indochina,' and then it became 'U.S. out of Southern Africa,' and it was 'U.S. out of the Caribbean and Central America,' and then it became 'U.S. out of the Persian Gulf.' I agreed with every one of those, but ultimately there's only one way that any of them will be possible and that is: US out of North America, U.S. off the planet, and take Canada with you when you go!


    Professor Churchill's hatred for America is really a projection of self-hatred. He is an Anglo-Saxon white man posing as an Indian. An in-depth genealogical investigation tracing Churchill's ancestry back over 100 years, conducted by the Rocky Mountain News, concluded that there is no evidence of a single Indian ancestor in Churchill's long family history in America. Churchill nonetheless describes himself in the following way: Although I'm best known by my colonial name, Ward Churchill, the name I prefer is Kenis, an Ojibwe name bestowed by my [Native American] wife's uncle. Far-Left presses have obligingly released books by the Keetowah Cherokee activist, Ward Churchill. In a recent speech in Vancouver, Churchill introduced himself thus, I have to say, I have to bring you greetings from the elders of the Keetoowah Band of Cherokee, my people. Not exactly: the Keetoowah Band, in which Churchill and Bill Clinton once had honorary memberships has disowned Churchill as an imposter.


    Imposture is likewise the distinguishing feature of Churchill's academic work. A two-month investigation of the professor's scholarly portfolio, carried out by the Rocky Mountain News in June of 2004, revealed that Churchill had a long history of inventing historical facts to suit his polemical purposes, and on numerous occasions had passed off the work of others as his own. Among the paper's findings: Churchill baselessly accused the U.S. army of spreading smallpox among Missouri Indians in 1837, brazenly citing books that expressly contradict his claims; published a 1992 essay taken almost verbatim from the work of Canadian professor Fay Cohen, over Cohen's objections, and on at least four other occasions, had claimed credit for the work of others. Churchill could produce no evidence to disprove the paper's findings. Instead, in characteristically mendacious fashion, Churchill sought to explain away his serial plagiarism as harmless creative editing, not dissimilar, according to Churchill, to the efforts of a rewrite man at a newspaper who edits articles as he sees fit.


    As a tenured professor in the field of American Indian studies at the University of Colorado, a position for which he has no evident qualifications, Churchill takes home a  $115,000 annual salary (for teaching three hours a week), not counting benefits and speaking fees.


    Henry Kissinger
    x
    Thanks for your thoughts, will check out Ford.
    I'm in my 50s and never paid much attention to politics until just before this past election.  Now I'm trying to make up for lost time, I guess......it's too bad that the abysmal condition politics is in right now is what finally prompted me to get interested!!
    I'm with you on the chevy/ford thing --

    I don't know why, but I have always preferred Chevy over Ford.  I've had 4 vehicles in my life -- my dad bought my first one -- an olds, then the first I bought was a Nissan, and my last 2 have been chevy's.  Right now I'm looking at a Cadillac Escalade. 


    Ford's just never seem to fit me right.  Can't explain it.  Just don't like 'em.  I dislike Dodge even more.  They seem to be made for shorter people -- no head room.


    kind of interesting about Ford plant
    http://info.detnews.com/video/index.cfm?id=1189

    Note the comment about UAW at the end.
    You should explain your wisdom to Harold Ford and John Tanner.

    These lawmakers obviously have no idea what it truly means.


    The way I read it is as nothing more than a badly worded symbolic gesture of no real significance other than to *express the sense of Congress.*


    You're entitled to agree with the lone 19 Republicans regarding our troops.


    I choose to agree with the vast majority who are *expressing* that they support our troops, particularly Ford and Tanner, whose comments are below.


    Ford and Tanner said they strongly support the troops. But they noted that current Iraqi government leaders reportedly are considering granting amnesty to Iraqis who killed U.S. troops as acts of resistance and defense of their homeland. They cannot support a government that would grant such amnesty, Ford and Tanner said in written statements.

    Ford, a U.S. Senate candidate, called the Republican resolution a gimmick that fails to recognize that 'stay the course' is not working and that amnesty for terrorists is unforgivable.


    Zero tolerance for liars
    Imagine how it would change the face of politics today if Republicans suddenly had TRUE "zero tolerance" for lying, cheating, stealing, vote fraud, false front groups, media shills, corporate malfeasance, crony capitalism, torture of innocents, war profiteering, oppressive foreign regimes and presidential dissembling.

    But nah...instead they seem to have very high tolerance levels for all of the above - hence the claim to "zero tolerance", using their favorite trick of naming a thing the exact opposite of what it really is.






    Oh gt, you think all reps are liars.

    not all republicans are liars
    No I dont think all republicans are liars.  I think many twist the truth to try to justify their opinion and beliefs instead of looking at the cold hard facts.  I judge each person individually, however, when someone does lie consistently or believes in a fantasy world, like Bush does..telling us every day Iraq is getting better when we can clearly see that it isnt..when people manipulate the science and change the figures or the intelligence data for their own agenda and gain, then I judge those people harshly and never believe them again.  Bush is like the little boy who cried wolf.  He has lied so darn much, I dont believe a word he says any more and I dont trust him at all.
    It has to do with crooks & liars.
    I see them linked here a lot and I put them right up there with DU and Daily Kos. 
    All politicians are liars!
    .
    Well, now you have two liars and two cheats
    xx
    All politicians are liars.
    .
    GOP, bunch of liars and criminals
    The GOP's Spreading Plague
        By Joe Conason
        Salon.com

        Friday 30 September 2005

    Voters are notoriously slow in voting out politicians accused of corruption, but they may reach the tipping point with the latest revelations.

        To be an honest Republican these days must be to wonder what awful revelation is coming next - and how the Grand Old Party, which once claimed to represent political reform, became a front for sleaze, corruption and cynical criminality. Across the country, from the Capitol to statehouses, Republican officials are under indictment, under investigation or under suspicion.

        This week's headlines featured the indictment of Rep. Tom DeLay and the probe of Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, but the infection of venality among their fellow partisans is now reaching epidemic proportions. So widespread is the plague that keeping track of all the individual cases, and their increasingly baroque variations, has become a distinct challenge.

        Consider Jack Abramoff, once the prince of K Street lobbyists and a dedicated right-wing ideologue who boasted of his powerful connections to DeLay, Karl Rove, Grover Norquist and the entire Republican apparatus in Washington. Already under investigation by the Justice Department for his influence peddling among House members, including DeLay, and his swindling of Indian tribes, Abramoff was indicted last month for bank fraud in a separate South Florida case involving a casino boat company that he partly owned.

        The fraud allegedly committed by Abramoff and his business partner Adam Kidan involved a phony wire transfer they used to purchase a controlling interest in SunCruz from the company's founder, Konstantinos Gus Boulis, in 2001.

        Abramoff and Kidan later fell out with Boulis in a bitter business dispute that turned violent. In February 2001, gunmen ambushed Boulis on a Fort Lauderdale, Fla., highway and shot him repeatedly. On Tuesday, Florida authorities arrested three New York men with mob connections for the Boulis killing. Two of the men - Anthony Moscatiello and Tony Ferrari - had received payments totaling more than $240,000 from Kidan and Abramoff. Moscatiello, a longtime associate of the Gambino Mafia family, and Ferrari were supposedly providing food and consulting services to SunCruz - or so Kidan claimed when questioned by prosecutors. There is no evidence, however, that Moscatiello and Ferrari provided any services to the company.

        Connecting the dots isn't difficult here: Kidan and Abramoff want to get rid of Boulis, who won't go away. Kidan and Abramoff hire Moscatiello and Ferrari with SunCruz money. Moscatiello and Ferrari allegedly whack Boulis, without any motive of their own. If the Broward County state's attorney has sufficient evidence to win convictions for a capital crime, some people will probably be talking soon in hope of avoiding the hot shot.

        The stunning fall of Abramoff, who has yet to hit bottom, is certainly the most colorful tale of Republican depravity. The corporate money laundering to Texas politicians that led to DeLay's conspiracy indictment, and the suspicious insider stock transaction that spurred investigations of Frist by the Justice Department and the Securities and Exchange Commission, seem mundane by comparison. Outrage will be warranted if their misconduct is proved, but everyone sadly knows that these felonies are now common practice in our political and corporate culture.

        Corporate misbehavior has also brought down right-wing publisher Conrad Black, neoconservative strategist and former Bush advisor Richard Perle and the entire corporate board of Hollinger Inc., the Republican-friendly media conglomerate formerly controlled by Lord Black - and that he and others are plausibly accused of illicitly looting for their own benefit. Furious shareholders forced Black to relinquish control of the company and are suing him, as well as Perle and former Black deputy David Radler, for $500 million. The SEC is also suing Black and Radler, and the Justice Department is investigating the former Hollinger directors.

        Last month, US Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald, who also happens to be the special prosecutor in the Valerie Plame case, accepted Radler's guilty plea to mail fraud and wire fraud. Radler is now believed to be cooperating in the prosecution of what former SEC chairman Richard Breeden, a Republican who investigated Hollinger on behalf of shareholders, termed a corporate kleptocracy.

        Kleptocratic morality evidently ruled at least two Republican statehouses in the Midwest as well. Currently under indictment are former Gov. George Ryan of Illinois, whose trial on bribery charges began last week, and Gov. Robert Taft of Ohio, who pleaded no contest last month to charges of accepting illegal gifts from a state contractor.

        That contractor is Thomas Noe, a coin dealer who received lucrative investment deals with the state's Workers Compensation Fund and is now at the center of a gigantic scandal known as Coingate. More than $12 million has disappeared from the fund, and former GOP official Noe stands accused of laundering money to various Republican politicians, including the Bush-Cheney campaign. Like Abramoff, Noe is a Bush Pioneer, responsible for raising at least $100,000 for the president last year.

        Still another Pioneer is currently under criminal investigation in a celebrated corruption case involving Randy Duke Cunningham, a prominent Republican representative from San Diego with a senior position on the House defense appropriations subcommittee. On Aug. 18, FBI and IRS agents raided the offices of defense contractor and Bush fundraiser Brent Wilkes.

        Wilkes is reportedly a former business associate of Mitchell J. Wade, the head of a defense contracting firm called MZM Inc. who is under investigation in San Diego for alleged bribery of Cunningham. According to newspaper reports, Wade purchased a home owned by Cunningham at a price inflated by at least $700,000, and also permitted the congressman to use his 42-foot yacht free of charge. Federal agents searched Wade's offices in July.

        Although prosecutors have brought no criminal charges in the case yet, they have filed civil court documents describing the home sale as a violation of federal bribery laws - and Cunningham, who has served in Congress for decades, has already announced that he will not seek another term next year.

        The Republican National Committee's new treasurer, Robert Kjellander, is under investigation too. (Naturally, he is also a Bush Pioneer.) Not long after he assumed his new post at the party's Washington headquarters, Kjellander received a federal subpoena for records of his dealings with the Illinois Teachers' Retirement System, a state pension fund, and the Carlyle Group. Federal prosecutors are reportedly looking into alleged corruption at the fund, and have asked Kjellander to provide information about a $4.5 million fee he received from Carlyle for his role in arranging investments by the fund with the huge private equity fund. Carlyle, of course, is closely connected to the Bush administration, including the president's father, George H.W. Bush, who has worked for the firm as a rainmaker and advisor.

        In fairness, it should be said that all these pols and parasites may be innocent (except for those already convicted), or at least not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. It is also true that voters have historically been slow to evict politicians from office because of corruption charges.

        But public opinion of congressional Republicans is hitting new lows, and Americans are growing furious about the war in Iraq, the government response to Hurricane Katrina and rising energy prices. The natural impulse to throw the rascals out can only be encouraged by the Gilded Age spectacles now unfolding in Washington and in cities across the country as the indictments continue to come down between now and November 2006.




        Joe Conason writes a weekly column for Salon and the New York Observer.
    Have only called the lying ones liars....

    And that is really only a handful.  There are some who post on the conservative board who may hold a different political philosophy than me, but they do not seem to be liars.


    Why do you ask?


    Okay....then let's just say neither of them are liars. They just changed their minds.
    I'll go with that. My entire point is that you can't really call one of them a liar and say the other just "changed his/her mind."
    crooks and liars.com... why am I not surprised....sm
    Speaking of crooks and liars, where are Bill and Hillary Clinton's??????



    but some people are BIGGER liars
    nm
    most people are freakin liars too
    x
    Only hateful liars would be proud it wasn't a failure.

    You're right - due to the slimy, lying, underhanded tactics of the administration and your boy, Bush, the Swift Boat fiasco with Kerry may  have had an impact on the election.  You sound like you're proud of that.  Figures.


    Why can't you folks just leave Sheehan alone.  Why can't someone be anti-war and speak their mind without you guys going nuts? 


    Just to prove my point, from Crooks and Liars website. sm
    Joe Scarborough: Republicans want him to SHUT UP

    On Joe's show tonight, he went off on Republicans that do not like him speaking out against this administration's handling of Katrina.

    Joe: I'm getting lectured from Republicans in Oregon, California, upstate New York, Arizona telling me I need to back off the President, I need to back off of FEMA, I need to back off these state leaders. You and I are on the Gulf Coast- we know how these things are supposed to be run. This has nothing to do with politics...

                                    Video-WMP

                                    Video-QT

    The Republicans are obviously worried that this Republican talk show host's point of view isn't following their talking points and is a real problem because he's not a Democrat saying them. Joe has been honest before (Schiavo not included) and is simply exposing their ineptitude that so many people are feeling right now.



    So then you are denying that you guys call all conservative posters liars? sm
    If you did, that would be a lie. 
    Wow, newbie Jackie is with the PROGRAM!!! Alright! Already calling people liars. sm
    What a gooooooooood little liberal you are!  HIGH FIVE!
    Good don't guess. It's my guess though.nm
    x
    My guess would be

    THREE!



    guess what
    Now you know how it feels, don't you?
    That's anybody's guess. sm
    But I think it is an educated guess to think most democratic voters in this election were against the war and most republican voters were for the war. Just my guess.
    I guess your'e in the 39%
    Bush approval rating dips to 39 percent - poll

    Wed Oct 12, 9:47 PM ET

    President George W. Bush's job approval rating has fallen to a new low of 39 percent in an NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll released on Wednesday.

    Bush's approval rating dipped in the poll below a mid-September ranking of 40 percent. The survey also found only 28 percent of respondents believed the country was headed in the right direction, NBC reported.

    Bush's political challenges have been piling up in recent weeks, from criticism over his handling of Hurricane Katrina, to growing unease over rising gas prices to conservative discord over the nomination of Harriet Miers to the U.S. Supreme Court.

    Many conservatives are outraged that Bush picked the White House insider with no judicial experience instead of a judge with clear-cut conservative credentials who could be counted on to move the high court firmly to the right.

    Twenty-nine percent of people surveyed said Miers was qualified to serve on the highest court in the United States, while 24 percent thought she was not qualified and 46 percent said they did not know enough about her, NBC said.

    The poll also found that strong majorities did not believe that recent charges against former House Republican leader Tom DeLay of Texas or a federal investigation of Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, a Tennessee Republican, were politically motivated, NBC said.

    DeLay has been indicted in Texas on money-laundering and conspiracy charges linked to campaign financing. Frist is being investigated over a stock sale.

    With the 2006 congressional elections a year away, 48 percent of respondents said they preferred a Democratic-controlled Congress, compared with 39 percent who said they preferred Republican leadership, NBC said.

    The 9-point difference was the largest margin between the parties in the 11 years the NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll had been tracking the question, NBC said.

    The poll of 807 adults was conducted from Saturday to Monday and had a margin of error of plus or minus 3.4 percentage points
    where are you? I guess some way
    from Houston, too close to it myself! you are right about the crime wave, up just about everywhere. have your kids told you what Sugarland and Ft. Bend County are like now?

    Anyway, nobody is going to hire a medical Transcriptionist with 143 days experience on her resume and I don't feel inclined to hire a president with that, either.

    Immigration is not the problem; invasion is, lawbreakers are a problem. We just had a pastor on TV in Houston who has had 5 wrecks, all caused by uninsured motorists and that is the least of it. I personally have seen what is happening to our ER's, unfortunately, the media says little about it. I understand 87 hospitals in southern California have folded. No private hospital can withstand the onslaught of all this clinic business. But, of course, the actual clinics designed for this are only open during regular business hours. Well, just a few thoughts of mine.
    To Guess Who?

    Sam,


    Here, here! Couldn't have said it better myself! We ALL have our own personal experiences with illegals.  Where is the mention of all the illegals that come here with drugs, and murder and rape our people?! Did I mention the pedophiles?! Just watch the news and it's all over the place! Just yesterday, they were talking about an illegal from Mexico in SanFrancisco that killed a father and his 2 boys, over a traffic incident!!!??? He was part of a gang! He previously was in trouble with the law before, and nothing was done! Now 3 people are dead, and a wife and 2 other children are forever torn apart by this low-life piece of sh*T that couldn't care LESS about life, liberty, and the pursuit!!!! Same story just a few months ago in LA.  Another gang member (illegal) shot a young teen and he is now dead! These are just 2 of the MANY stories out there! Even the people that are coming here "for a better life", I can understand that.  What I don't understand is them coming here and getting FREE medical, FREE housing, etc. etc. etc.... Why the hell are THEY entitled, but we, as natural-born citizens are not, because we may "make too much money?!" My dad is 62 years old, and probably will work till the day he dies, because he isn't "entitled" to any of this, he doesn't have savings or 401K to fall back on.  My husband busts his butt, and pays a LOT of $ every month so that we all have medical, why? so they can come here and drop a kid for free, at the expense of OUR tax dollars?! BS!!! You wanna come here, fine! Then WORK for your OWN medical, housing, food, etc. etc.! I agree with the above, as for the lawbreakers, molesters, murderers, gang-bangers, let them all rot on an island together! And don't come here and wave your Mexican flag, or any other flag for that matter! If you went to other countries with your American flag, you would most likely be shot!


    So please, Guess Who, get a grip and a life!


    To everyone else, have a lovely day!


    Guess what?! At 17, you should not
    be having sex!  Duh!  My mother started working outside the home when I was 12.  She gave me VALUES of responsibility, of self-respect, and the consequences of my actions.  I never had to be told not to have premarital sex.  Unreal!  If this stuff was coming out about Chelsey Clinton, you all would be all over it!  What a meltdown!
    You must be, I guess....nm
    x
    THough I guess they won't be able to use them...
    if we have two women running next time...lol. Guess I can put a big red X through "him" and write on "her." lol.
    Well, then I guess I have a very

    simple view of politics.  I would think that if a bad bill is being put on the table, that enough politicians will see that it is bad and will vote against it, i.e. the bailout bill. 


    I guess that's just too simple.  Agree to disagree.


    I guess we will have to.............. sm
    learn to say "Do you want fries with that?"

    I'd say LOL if it weren't such a scary prospect.


    Nothing to guess about. s/m
    They'll be crying about their bottom line profit which they will pass down to consumers and they'll lay everyone off so they can send the jobs overseas.  No guess about it.  Then they'll cry some more when no one has any money to buy their overpriced stuff.
    Well, guess I can guess! what it says.
    We had several Cubans come over here back in the late 60's, all close friends, one a doctor who warned all of us then where medicine was going and he was right on the money. They fled Cuba for their lives at the time. I am watching my country unravel and there is not a dang thing I can do about it outside of this one vote.
    My guess is...and only a guess....
    because SS is in such pitiful shape now, this will take the place of it for those of us still working...while we continue to pay for those who are on social security NOW (with our payroll taxes) because in a congress in times past Democrats decided to "borrow" from social security and never paid it back. Liberal socialist ideas NEVER work. And people keep voting them in anyway and blaming it on Republicans. LOL. Like mice on a treadmill. Sigh.
    Well, then, I guess we should

    keep the 10 Commandments in church too.  Then we could just go around raping, killing, stealing, lying, whatever we felt like doing.  I believe 76 some odd percent of the U.S. describes their religion as Christianity.  We let Madeline O'Hair or whatever her name is take away prayer in schools, etc. etc.  I am sick to death of this p.c. stuff.  If someone wants to be an atheist or muslim or what the heckfire ever, let 'em be.  If they don't want to participate with the MAJORITY then I don't know of any law that makes them. 


    Guess who said this

    "we're set up, unlike other states in the union, where it's collectively Alaskans own the resources. So we share in the wealth when the development of these resources occurs."


    The New Yorker Magazine


    This is not an opinion, simply a quote.


    My guess would be..............sm
    just like the rest of the sheeple, they have been duped into believing this man will turn the economy around with his smoke-and-mirrors approach to healing the financial condition of this country, which in turn benefits them as the money is redistributed back up to the top. Who do you think will ultimately benefit from Obmama's plan. That's right..the rich...as the lower and middle class have more disposable income, the money will trickle right back up to the top.
    my guess is a lot of them
    x
    I guess a lot of them
    Question: I would like to know who "them" are?
    Well, I guess you don't but
    at least if you see it alive you know if it is sick.  I posted earlier about chickens.  I promise you if you ever saw the LIVE chickens loaded in the crates on the truck headed for the slaughter house you would NEVER EVER eat another chicken  And that's a pretty site compared to the inside of a 500 foot chicken house where hundreds of chickens are raised never seeing the sunlight and standing toe to toe in their own excrement.  Well.....get the picture?  But by the time they get to the grocery store all neatly packaged...........want me to tell you where they get the cut up chickens, breasts, thighs, legs, wings?  No?  I didn't think so.
    I guess it's okay then............sm
    especially in light of the fact they were serving coffee! LOL
    guess not................sm
    ms, but I guess we will all get a bowl of that ice cream now.
    I think she did just guess also (sm)
    I know she had been reading some articles in political magazines about him, not Muslim magazines.  So that part probably should not have even been mentioned in my post, as I think it had nothing to do with it.  She is not Muslim.  She is not religious at all I don't think.  She was a coworker I enjoyed talking with but since I went back home to work I haven't talked to her much so have not discussed it with her recently.  She and her husband consider themselves African-American although she is a mixed race.  So she may have been following his progress because of that, not sure.
    Then I guess you can....... sm
    take it up with God when you see Him. This kind of reasoning is so in line with the "me, me, me" greedy society that we have now. And as far as adopted children....I know quite a few who view their adoptive parents, the ones who loved them and provided for them, as their "real" parents rather than the biologic parent and have no desire whatsoever to meet the biologic parent. And I am sure they are thankful that the biologic parent didn't take the easy way out for herself and deny them the right to life.

    My guess is that they don't like him because he is ...
    BLACK!