I have been perfectly respectful.
Posted By: AR on 2005-10-19
In Reply to: Can we keep the peace and also debate, please? - gt
I am not sure what you are talking about.
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respectful? You? LOL!
A post totally and completely respectful from you? I cant believe it..Your are goshing, arent you? Between you and MT I cant believe the disrespect posted towards liberals/democrats..Just because you do not believe like us does not mean you have to attack..You profess to believe in the Constitution yet you attack posts that believe differently than you..Hypocrites..You, sweetheart, are the queen of attacks..so dont start acting like a goodie two shoes..the previous posts prove what you are all about..Besides, get back to your board..WE DONT WANT YOU HERE.
You know, I was being respectful. sm
I should have known better. Can we speak without cut and paste? That would be a nice way to start. No, the military times does not speak for the servicemen. And no, I am not saying that videos are whatever you said they were. I am saying that the posts we made where not all service personnel were against the war were backed by videos that showed them speaking. NOT the printed word, which can be spun whichever way the writer feels like spinning it. The fact is, I am sure there are plenty of service people who don't believe this this war, but still they serve. The day we start letting the military pick and choose which war they serve in is the day we will have lost the military. Just my opinion.
Thanks for posting and for being so respectful.
I agree that there hasn't been a single president willing to address the border issues. But there also hasn't been a single president in American history to witness his country suffer an attack such as 9/11. If there was ever a time to do everything possible to protect the American people, I believe it was after 9/11. I believe Katrina showed everyone (including the terrorists) just how little we've done to coordinate local, state and federal emergency responses. Bush beat 9/11 to death in his 2004 campaign. In my opinion, he used it to scare people into voting for him, with the false promise that he was the only candidate who could protect us.
As far as Democratic spending, I couldn't agree with you more. In fact, that's the whole point. Democrats are the ones with the rep for out of control spending. They, at least, acknowledged the need to help the less fortunate in our country. Now we've got out of control spending, with the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer, more and more people without health insurance coverage, and probably many Americans unable to afford to heat their homes this winter. At least the Democrats, albeit it to the chagrin of most Americans, raised taxes and gave us a sense that we were paying for all the spending they were doing. I honestly don't know now who is paying for all this, and it scares me. It further scares me that this president wants to completely revamp the Social Security system, a system I've been paying into for the past 36 years, and I don't trust his financial judgment -- not even a little bit. He's publicly described who he believes his base to be (the haves and the have mores), and that group doesn't include me. Most of my adult life was spent as a single mother. (Even though she's grown with children of her own, I'm STILL a single mother because I try to help her, my son-in-law and grandchildren whenever they need me.) I haven't had the luxury of saving for retirement simply because I couldn't afford to. I know that I will never retire. I will be working one way or the other until the day I die. The only thing I have to look forward to is a small Social Security check to supplement the part-time income I receive when I get too old to work full time. I'm not asking for a handout. I'm just asking for the government to keep its word regarding Social Security and not pull the rug out from under me.
I also didn't vote for Bush in 2000 because I believed in my heart we would find ourselves at war with Iraq if Bush was president, even though he promised that nation building was something he was against. As you know, this was well before 9/11, and now he publicly admits he wants to spread freedom throughout the world -- whether the world actually wants the United States' (and/or Bush's) particular brand of freedom or not.
In all fairness, I believe the Democratic party dropped the ball very badly in the last 8 years. In 2000, I couldn't bring myself to vote for anyone because I was so tired of voting for the least worst person. I felt that if Gore and Bush were the best this country had to offer, we were in serious trouble.
I also think that Kerry was a terrible candidate to represent the Democratic party, although I did respect very much the fact that he had actually served in a war on foreign land and had firsthand experience in that area, which I believe is very important.
My favorite Democratic candidate was John Edwards. He wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth. Everything he has, he worked very hard for. This is a man who has firsthand knowledge of how to build something from nothing, another area of knowledge I don't believe Bush has clue one about. Edwards was acutely aware there are two Americas, and that's never been more evident than it is now, after almost 5 years of bush.
I'm one of those people who found what Clinton did to be deplorable. However, compared to Bush, Clinton was infinitely better. Clinton definitely left office with the country in better shape than it will be when Bush leaves.
We used to have three basic socioeconomic groups in this country: rich, middle class and poor. The rich are getting richer, the poor are getting poorer, and the middle class is starting to erode downward. People who have median incomes are finding their effective net spendable income dwindling if they have to drive to and from their employment. The only people to benefit from Bush are the rich. It's a sad, sad situation when the State of Georgia takes it upon itself to close schools in order to conserve fuel, yet oil company profits continue to skyrocket.
I believe that war with Iraq is not only the single largest waste of money, resources, and especially American lives -- it's also putting America in much more danger. This war has provided a wide open space for terrorists to train, and Bush gave them that training ground by invading Iraq and creating that training ground that didn't exist before. We've completely destroyed their country, killed their people and wrecked their electricity and water. I don't think it would be moral and ethical to just pull out of there immediately without fixing all the things that we broke. By the same token, the longer we stay there, the more Americans we lose. Saddam had been contained. He was no real threat to us, and there was no legitimate reason in the world for us to invade Iraq in the bogus name of fighting the war on terror. We have so very many things to do here at home to take care of our own, and we should have done that before even thinking of invading a country that wasn't a threat to us. In 2001, we were told we're going in there to fight the war on terror. Now the reason is we want to spread freedom to the Iraqi people. That's quite a leap and, to me, a person who feared in 2000 that Bush would attack Iraq, it's disingenuous, but most of all, it's not keeping us safe.
Hurricane season still has three months to go, and there's no reason to believe that more Americans won't lose their lives and/or homes. We've got war zones all around us, whether it's an act of God or an act of Bush. Whether it's the Gulf in Iraq or the Gulf in America, people are faced with losing electricity and water. More urgently, they are faced with losing their lives and homes. Somebody PLEASE tell me why it should be that Iraq is more important than America. I don't believe America can afford to take care of both. In my opinion, America must take priority.
I'm sorry this was so long. I guess I've been waiting for a long time to actually enter a debate with someone who is intelligent and thoughtful and, above all else, respectful to a different point of view. Reading your post was a real pleasure. Thank you. 
Thank you for this polite, respectful
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It's just that the other posters tonight were much more respectful and better informed.
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A respectful campaign? Surely you jest. n/m
Debate is allowed on the political forums. Be respectful in your posts. If you
cannot post in kind, DON'T POST.
Thank you!!! You said it all perfectly!!! NM
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you said it perfectly. After that sm
then who do they tax? There is a fundamental problem here and it is the problem of big government getting in all our business! I hate cigarette smoke also and because of a chronic illness just a whiff of it puts me in the hospital. BUT, do I think they should place this tax, NO. For the same reason as you, because it is not our health the government is concerned about. They could not care less. They just want to control the American people more and more. Anyone who cant see that needs to take the blinders off!
Perfectly understandable..
..how people who can't see three fingers being held up by someone (see posts and accompanying accusations below) are the very same people who can see a fetus in a hurricane.
Those of us who aren't delusional and twisted can clearly see the truth in this article. Thanks for posting it.
Let me be perfectly clear about what I said.
Since the poster above seems to think he/she can put words in my mouth, I will tell you exactly what I said.
I fully expect all posters to be respectful and not put down the President (current or past) or anyone else for that matter. I don't care if they're Liberal, Conservative, or polka dotted.
On the forum, you will be respectful in posting or you won't be allowed to post.
Think you can handle that? If you can't, don't post. It's just that simple.
So what? You know perfectly well that what people
'more of the same' implies the candidates the republicans have chosen to nominate. You know that, I know that, and everyone else on this board knows that.
You really do have a gift, though, I might say. That gift is the ability to twist & manipulate words and numbers to come out to mean what YOU want them to. Too bad you can't find yourself some way to make a living at it.
Hmmm.... Maybe you should run for office?
I understand perfectly
They are lacking in reasoning capacity.
I'm perfectly fine with that.
Thanks Amanda - you explained it well. I had never heard the term anchor babies. If they are born in the US then that's fine for president.
I think it is perfectly clear
how things will go with regards to Obama. As evident by this board, I think it is very obvious that some people may hold back their "judgments" or concerns about Barrack Obama for the simple fact that any criticism aimed at the president thus far is construed as racism. How dare we criticize what he does, his agenda, etc. because he is the first mixed race president.
I also think that he will be judged less harshly because the liberal media will not cover things fairly. They will continue to portray Barrack Obama as the savior/rock star.
When this stimulus package fails to stimulate the economy and when our economy is still suffering at the end of his term, we will see how fairly he will be judged. Until then, he is getting a free pass by the liberal media and people too eager to throw out the race card or people who are too afraid to criticize for fear of being called racist.
I think it is perfectly fine -
You also have to take into account the differences in what one generation feels is appropriate and what the next generation feels is appropriate.
I can remember when I was younger being told I could not even wear jeans to McDonald's when applying for a job, that I needed to wear a dress. Now, with the new generation, you don't even need your "BEST" jeans on - anything goes.
Going for a business interview? Well, forget the dress and panty hose... wear a pantsuit or a dress with bare legs.
At least Obama still has on a dress shirt and a tie, and I am sure the jacket is there available when it is needed.
I also read that one of the problems is that Obama does not like the cold and he keeps the thermostat turned to an uncomfortable high if you have on a jacket.
Yes, we know, not tolerant, perfectly describes
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It's perfectly clear to me what the context was, so if it's above you, then
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Why? This video explains it perfectly.
You and I and some others on this board already knew this, but Keith Olbermann did an excellent job of explaining this to anyone who doesn't get it. This is a great video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az7yl-UnsQQ
You've summed it up perfectly.
Thanks so much! Sums my feelings up perfectly. nm
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I find it perfectly alright to say
I am white and I know how it works. White folks say a couple is "engaged" if the girl gets pregnant. Black folks say they are staying somewhere but do not go as far as to say they are engaged.
I understood you perfectly....pull out the military....
and what little stability there is will be gone. I cannot see it going any other way. What exactly do you see happening if we pull the military out? Seriously. What will the insurgents do? What will the sunni and shiite militias do? I am serious...what do you think would happen?
Makes perfectly good sense.....has no
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i'm sure osama has a perfectly good reason for this
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I understood perfectly well how you meant your post..nm
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Only drive-bys seem to be ruining perfectly adult conversations
We all were having good conversations and even adult disagreements until the usual drive-by suspects chimed in and make is a potty-mouth bash fest. Democrat might have lost control a little bit, but we all do at some point. You did your usual leftist troll duties by coming here and sabatoging and decent debates in process. You are not a liberal. You are someone who is so filled with hate that you cannot stand when conservatives and liberals are actually dialoguing. Yeah, it gets heated, but you are not mature enough nor do you have substance enough to tolerate adult conversation. You are a dive bomber, and you are the reason we have to be separated.
You and your minions are pretty sad people indeed.
Not worth wasting perfectly good words on.
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Hypothetical, rhetorical questions, perfectly fine.
posing what can easily be construed as scripted questions are open to challenge. Dreams? Of course. Intent? Where is he now? Which American dream is the REAL, bona fide Joe the Plumber dream? If wanting to get to the truth is your idea of attack, so be it...but don't expect me or any of the other voters who are disgusted by the hypocrisy that underpins JTP and his exploitation by a desperate campaign which is obsessed with negativity, gloom, doom, Armageddon, character assassination, inciting cultural warfare and turns a blind eye to rampant racism and bigotry to play that game and accept the mantle as the oppressors. BTW, hypocrisy, half-truths, misrepresentations, slurs, unfounded accusations and the like have a way of exposing themselves showing their tru colors. Try debating honest campaign issues and you may be surprised with what you get in return.
I understood her post perfectly - 4 years in 4 minutes
What part of that don't you understand. Pretty simple to figure out.
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Wow, my post was totally and completely respectful and yours is totally and completely not. sm
what a surprise. Can't stand to be corrected or proven wrong, can you. Have to call everyone a liar, don't you. Got to tell people to stick things somewhere, don't you. TSK TSK TSK Anger management might be helpful.
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