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I posted the entire article, but I MUST be LYING! LOL! Link inside. sm

Posted By: sm on 2005-08-31
In Reply to: Would you please provide a link so we can see what it really says? - Curious

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/8/30/230457.shtml


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Interesting article see link inside

Looks like the feminists are supporting Palin.  Very interesting article and it explains why they are supporting her. 


http://www.bizzyblog.com/2008/09/06/palin-punditry-you-wont-see-in-the-papers-or-on-the-tv-news/


 


 


Good article - link inside.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2008/sep/10/women.uselections2008


 


 


See link to article from Women's News inside.
http://www.womensenews.org/article.cfm/dyn/aid/2046/context/archive
I hear this too. Here is a link, but I put the article inside. www.OneNewsNow.com
Obama has aunt living in US illegally
Eileen Sullivan and Elliot Spagat - Associated Press Writers - 11/1/2008 6:55:00 AM
WASHINGTON - Barack Obama's aunt, a Kenyan woman who has been living in public housing in Boston, is in the United States illegally after an immigration judge rejected her request for asylum four years ago, The Associated Press has learned.





Zeituni Onyango, 56, referred to as "Aunti Zeituni" in Obama's memoir, was instructed to leave the United States by a U.S. immigration judge who denied her asylum request, a person familiar with the matter told the AP late Friday. This person spoke on condition of anonymity because no one was authorized to discuss Onyango's case.

Information about the deportation case was disclosed and confirmed by two separate sources, one of them a federal law enforcement official. The information they made available is known to officials in the federal government, but the AP could not establish whether anyone at a political level in the Bush administration or in the McCain campaign had been involved in its release.

Onyango's refusal to leave the country would represent an administrative, non-criminal violation of U.S. immigration law, meaning such cases are handled outside the criminal court system. Estimates vary, but many experts believe there are more than 10 million such immigrants in the United States.

The AP could not reach Onyango immediately for comment. No one answered the telephone number listed in her name late Friday. It was unclear why her request for asylum was rejected in 2004. The Obama campaign declined to comment late Friday night.

Onyango is not a relative whom Obama has discussed in campaign appearances and, unlike Obama's father and grandmother, is not someone who has been part of the public discussion about his personal life.

A spokeswoman for U.S. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement, Kelly Nantel, said the government does not comment on an individual's citizenship status or immigration case.

Onyango's case - coming to light just days before the presidential election - led to an unusual nationwide directive within Immigrations and Customs Enforcement requiring any deportations prior to Tuesday's election to be approved at least at the level of ICE regional directors, the U.S. law enforcement official told the AP.

The unusual directive suggests that the Bush administration is sensitive to the political implications of Onyango's case coming to light so close to the election.

Kenya is in eastern Africa between Somalia and Tanzania. The country has been fractured in violence in recent years, including a period of two months of bloodshed after December 2007 that killed 1,500 people.

The disclosure about Onyango came just one day after Obama's presidential campaign confirmed to the Times of London that Onyango, who has lived in public housing in South Boston for five years, was Obama's half aunt on his father's side.

It was not immediately clear how Onyango might have qualified for public housing with a standing deportation order.


Don't think you read the same article, THAT IS THE TITLE...see the link I posted...

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I read that entire article and I still didn't see where it said sm

U.S. military was protecting the Hezbollah supporters. Am I really missing it?


Get real, I read the entire article. Bush had NOTHING to do with it!
My gosh, the lengths you will go to.  Shame on you!  Obviously, German would not give him up, as Democrat says.  Next you will post that Bush is responsible for orginal sin.   And you would believe it, too!
You obviously failed to read the entire link.
to back up her claims. I don't need to research this further. I was a 40+ grown-up when the confirmation hearings were held and I remember them vividly, since it was one of the most blatent miscarriages of justice I have witnessed first-hand in my entire life. I was a bit more naive back then but now, of course, I understand completely how the Bushes operate and how this could have happened under their watch.
This carries no weight without the name of the publication and the entire article with byline.
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Each brown place in the link takes you to a different article that supports this article...nm
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post the link only, not the whole article and the link. See rules for posting.
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It's not quite that simple. (Please see article inside.)

I'm certainly no McCain fan; however, when I first heard about this possible "controversy"  concerning his birth, contrary to this article, I thought it was frivolous at least and outrageous at most, considering his father was a soldier at the time, and I felt it was a slap in the face to soldiers everywhere.


Just as McCain was vetted about this issue, so was Obama, and both men were found to be eligible to run for President.


McCain's birthplace prompts queries about whether that rules him out


By Carl Hulse


Published: February 28, 2008


WASHINGTON: The question has nagged at the parents of Americans born outside the continental United States for generations: Dare their children aspire to grow up and become president? In the case of Senator John McCain of Arizona, the issue is becoming more than a matter of parental daydreaming.


McCain's likely nomination as the Republican candidate for president and the happenstance of his birth in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936 are reviving a musty debate that has surfaced periodically since the founders first set quill to parchment and declared that only a "natural-born citizen" can hold the nation's highest office.


Almost since those words were written in 1787 with scant explanation, their precise meaning has been the stuff of confusion, law school review articles, whisper campaigns and civics class debates over whether only those delivered on American soil can be truly natural born. To date, no American to take the presidential oath has had an official birthplace outside the 50 states.


"There are powerful arguments that Senator McCain or anyone else in this position is constitutionally qualified, but there is certainly no precedent," said Sarah Duggin, an associate professor of law at Catholic University who has studied the issue extensively. "It is not a slam-dunk situation."


McCain was born on a military installation in the Canal Zone, where his mother and father, a navy officer, were stationed. His campaign advisers say they are comfortable that McCain meets the requirement and note that the question was researched for his first presidential bid in 1999 and reviewed again this time around.


Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina and one of McCain's closest allies, said it would be incomprehensible to him if the son of a military member born in a military station could not run for president.


"He was posted there on orders from the United States government," Graham said of McCain's father. "If that becomes a problem, we need to tell every military family that your kid can't be president if they take an overseas assignment."


The phrase "natural born" was in early drafts of the Constitution. Scholars say notes of the Constitutional Convention give away little of the intent of the framers. Its origin may be traced to a letter from John Jay to George Washington, with Jay suggesting that to prevent foreigners from becoming commander in chief, the Constitution needed to "declare expressly" that only a natural-born citizen could be president.


Duggin and others who have explored the arcane subject in depth say legal argument and basic fairness may indeed be on the side of McCain, a longtime member of Congress from Arizona. But multiple experts and scholarly reviews say the issue has never been definitively resolved by either Congress or the Supreme Court.


Duggin favors a constitutional amendment to settle the matter. Others have called on Congress to guarantee that Americans born outside the national boundaries can legitimately see themselves as potential contenders for the Oval Office.


"They ought to have the same rights," said Don Nickles, a former Republican senator from Oklahoma who in 2004 introduced legislation that would have established that children born abroad to American citizens could harbor presidential ambitions without a legal cloud over their hopes. "There is some ambiguity because there has never been a court case on what 'natural-born citizen' means."


McCain's situation is different from those of the current governors of California and Michigan, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jennifer Granholm, who were born in other countries and were first citizens of those nations, rendering them naturalized Americans ineligible under current interpretations. The conflict that could conceivably ensnare McCain goes more to the interpretation of "natural born" when weighed against intent and decades of immigration law.


McCain is not the first person to find himself in these circumstances. The last Arizona Republican to be a presidential nominee, Barry Goldwater, faced the issue. He was born in the Arizona territory in 1909, three years before it became a state. But Goldwater did not win, and the view at the time was that since he was born in a continental territory that later became a state, he probably met the standard.


It also surfaced in the 1968 candidacy of George Romney, who was born in Mexico, but again was not tested. The former Connecticut politician Lowell Weicker Jr., born in Paris, sought a legal analysis when considering the presidency, an aide said, and was assured he was eligible. Franklin D. Roosevelt Jr. was once viewed as a potential successor to his father, but was seen by some as ineligible since he had been born on Campobello Island in Canada. The 21st president, Chester Arthur, whose birthplace is Vermont, was rumored to have actually been born in Canada, prompting some to question his eligibility.


Quickly recognizing confusion over the evolving nature of citizenship, the First Congress in 1790 passed a measure that did define children of citizens "born beyond the sea, or out of the limits of the United States to be natural born." But that law is still seen as potentially unconstitutional and was overtaken by subsequent legislation that omitted the "natural-born" phrase.


McCain's citizenship was established by statutes covering the offspring of Americans abroad and laws specific to the Canal Zone as Congress realized that Americans would be living and working in the area for extended periods. But whether he qualifies as natural-born has been a topic of Internet buzz for months, with some declaring him ineligible while others assert that he meets all the basic constitutional qualifications —— a natural-born citizen at least 35 years of age with 14 years of residence.


"I don't think he has any problem whatsoever," said Nickles, a McCain supporter. "But I wouldn't be a bit surprised if somebody is going to try to make an issue out of it. If it goes to court, I think he will win."


Lawyers who have examined the topic say there is not just confusion about the provision itself, but uncertainty about who would have the legal standing to challenge a candidate on such grounds, what form a challenge could take and whether it would have to wait until after the election or could be made at any time.


In a paper written 20 years ago for the Yale Law Journal on the natural-born enigma, Jill Pryor, now a lawyer in Atlanta, said that any legal challenge to a presidential candidate born outside national boundaries would be "unpredictable and unsatisfactory."


"If I were on the Supreme Court, I would decide for John McCain," Pryor said in a recent interview. "But it is certainly not a frivolous issue."


http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/02/28/america/28mccain.php


 


See article inside - very interesting

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/obama_government/news.php?q=1227843027


see link inside...........sm
http://www.hermes-press.com/BushSaud.htm
Link inside. sm

Sorry. Link inside.

 


http://www.commondreams.org/views06/1107-20.htm


See inside for link

Please see the below link for the previous time this was brought up.


See link inside.
See link below:
See inside for link.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1839724-1,00.html

see link inside
This is what I have had time to find so far:
Seeing his B/C at the link inside

convinces me.  http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/ (No link, copy and paste)


See inside for link
See below
See inside for link. sm
This is the last time I will post anything about the issue of Obama's birth certificate. It is a dead issue.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
see link inside -
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-birth-certificate-30-oct30,0,1742172.story
See link inside.

Here's one example:


"Opinion of U.S. from abroad plummets under President Bush"


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/presidentbush/2008/10/poll-europe-cri.html


 


see link inside

We will not stop until the truth comes out.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJc6uczdhE0


 


See link inside.

http://texasfred.net/tags/anchor-babies


I couldn't possibly agree more.  Going to bed now.


A link for you inside
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2007/08/11/frances_model_healthcare_system/
see link inside for all addresses...SM
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
All of this has been debunked! Link inside. sm
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html?page=1&c=y
Barack should tell them to kma...see link inside

Ok, I knew I hated politics - actually I don't hate politics, just certain people in politics...this article goes to show why the Clintons are a disgrace to the democratic party.  Someone needs to slap Bill upside the head and say get with the program or get out...we don't want your kind here (this is an article coming out of UK - and they love him there).


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/2211812/Bill-Clinton-says-Barack-Obama-must-'kiss-my-ass'-for-his-support.html


 


Link inside on why. Wondering if you know
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2007/09/04/2007-09-04_rudy_giuliani_talks_hurricane_emergency_.html

Correct link inside

Click below


 


Interesting link inside

 


http://www.cnbc.com/id/27012038


Debunked? see inside for link
Associated Press, 10/15/08.  Click link below.
Link for transcript inside....sm
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/01/transcript-rush-limbaughs-address-cpac/
another viewpoint - link inside
Seeing as truthout.org is very liberal of course they will get the worst of the worst to render their viewpoint. If you go to a more conservative site you will get a different feel of how the soldiers really feel. My best friends husband and son are both over there and they say the military are still proud to serve and encourage all of us to support them and find the good in what they are doing. I found this article from a woman soldier who was in Afghanistan and lost both her legs. She states in the article...

"My whole heart was into what I was doing. I love my people. I love my unit. I just love my job, and I'd go back and do it in a heartbeat."

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=15038708

Hmmmmm, interesting. Also see link inside
It's quite long but worth reading. How many high-profile conservatives with ties to Reagan and Bush 1 have to jump ship for something meaningful to happen? javascript:editor_insertHTML('text','');

http://www.dallasobserver.com/Issues/2006-02-16/news/feature_full.html
Actually, that was from June 25, 2004...link inside.
http://www.dccc.org/stakeholder/archives/000497.html
This is just as scary as the little kids. Link inside. sm
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=LSvBCBnulLs

They say the way to a nation is through the children.

Hitler was a pro at it. Does the name "Brown Shirts" and Hitler Youth Squads mean anything? Maybe not to the young people out there who think that Obamarama walks on water. But Hitler was ahead of his time when it came to keeping people in line. He got kids to turn in their parents, other family members, friends...all so that the "Great Aryan Race" could come to fruition.

Every dictator throughout history has used the children to get to the adults. What adult would not lay down his life for a child?

Would Obama lay down his life for a child? I don't think so. Witness BAIPA.
his plan for healthcare - see link inside -
http://www.govcentral.com/news/2275-obama-vs-mccain-health-care-plan-overview
This was on my MSN alerts this morning. See link inside.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27430997


And I have to agree....if this were am effigy of Obama and Biden??? Those two guys would be hauled off to the darkest dungeons of wherever there are still dungeons, never to be heard from again. Tongue in cheek, but still true.


See link inside for his website - read for yourself sm
http://www.davidicke.com/index.php/

You believe there is a hidden "reptilian invasion / agenda"?? Really? and those of us who don't see it are the deluded ones?
For an easier breakdown, please see link inside .....sm
This site has a very good breakdown of each category that concerns all of us:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28661839


Director's blog at the CBO link inside

 


http://cboblog.cbo.gov/


 


DW, if you will look at the article I posted....
you will see some of your concerns addressed. I think the link piglet posted in her original post, where she went searching for more on Camp Cropper....that link has to do with something else, not Camp Cropper. Two different persons in charge. At any rate, Camp Cropper sends kids outside the detention area to school taught by Iraqis, not Americans, just a more moderate view of Islam also not the militant jihadist kind. It says that Sunni and Shiite teens are starting to interact and the hatred seems to be disappearing. And, as piglet rightfully pointed out regarding Venezuela and how the young people were effecting the change...so can it be in Iraq, because that is where it starts, correct? And it sounds like this commander over this detention center, with the help of Iraqi teachers, is doing just that. Not trying to convert them from Islam, just give them a different view of Islam and a choice other than violence. As you say, they are the future of the Middle East, and I think the school that Camp Cropper uses is the way to help that happen. As the Iraqi principal said...mostly they are just kids wanting to be kids. And if we can turn a few of them from jihad and toward reconciliation within their own country, then I think it is well worth the effort.

Have a good day!
That article posted above was NOT about
It was about SCHIP.

Snapshots: State Coverage Expansions, Despite Economic Downturn
Despite the economic downturn, a few states are continuing to pursue coverage expansions. States such as Indiana are expanding Medicaid and the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) by extending program eligibility up the income ladder. Other states are taking more unusual approaches, such as mandating children's coverage (New Jersey) or extending dependent coverage for children to young adults (Illinois and many other states).
Thanks for posting this. It is interesting...link inside for those interested.
http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/buckner_tripoli.html
Pure entertainment (or possibly not) see link inside...


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,415441,00.html
See inside for link....McCain saw this coming in 2005...
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-88137

THIS is the guy I want in the White House during these bad financial times. Obviously he knows enough about the economy and outfits like this to see problems coming.
Obama has already said he is in favor of draft - see link inside
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/sep2008/obam-s13_prn.shtml