I stand corrected on the Vietnam number

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You are right. I did apply a double standard to a point.  Everybody has a past.  We've all done things we're ashamed of.  My beef  was with how he made it all seem like a joke, but again you are right.

I apologize...

What you said and every other bad thing in the world.  Bad Bad BAD Democrats. 

Bush won't send any of his kids to die for his war.  Only other people's kids.  BTW, LoL at margarita bimbos.   

Speaking of margaritas, people convicted of felonies (such as DUI) aren't allowed to vote in the United States. 

But they're allowed to be political candidates and sometimes they become President and Vice President.  (Bush: Arrested for DUI and again for possession of cocaine.  Cheney:  Arrested twice for DUI).

The loophole is they probably weren't technically convicted.  They would have been if they were everyday normal people and not privileged and rich, but how ironic is that?  :-(

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Total U.S. military deaths in vietnam was 58,000. 

Perhaps your sources of information are erroneous or just not well researched.  And using common sense I believe reference was made to the course and justification of the Vietnam War, not the total casualties. 

I think that you have made a crucial error in believing that WWII and Vietnam are at all similar.  WWII and the US Civil War were also very different wars.  There are even major differences between Iraq and Vietnam and the Korean War although some historians would also find greater similarities in these three wars.  You may rewrite the history of wars as well as US history to fit your agenda of political hatred, but you will never be able to present a convincing argument if you have completely questionable sources and facts to back it up.

You negate most historical records, which I admit often have some aspects of questionable validity, and you seem to re-create a fictionalized account to accommodate your rather far-out-there belief system based in hatred of the left.  You rearrange and fictionalize facts and history to make your point.  You provide spurious sources for your facts (I could probably find sources that prove that the earth is populated by aliens from Mars if I looked hard enough).

I also notice on the conservative board constant condemnation of liberals, leftists as a whole.  We are characterized as stupid, immoral, crazy, unpatriotic, love the terrorists, cowards, angry, on and on.  You are condemning at least 50 percent of the citizens of this country with those adjectives. Doesn't seem at all patriotic to me.  Your group also points out nuts (like those who would spit on veterans) as representing the liberal mindset.  I realize I am not going to be able to convince you of the great disservice you do to yourself with a narrow and naive mindset like that.  I know many Republicans and with the exception of possibly one, none are as condemning and narrow-minded as the posts I see on your board.  Thank heavens for that.  While I have participated in bashing and see bashing on the liberal board, it rarely occurs in a generalized fashion toward all right-wingers.  As I said, that would be a very naive assumption and the root of bigotry and prejudice and ultimately hatred is in the grouping of all peoples as being of one mindset.....think of Muslims, blacks in the south pre-Civil Rights, Native Americans in the 1800s (and even now).  So easy to ridicule and oppress when we don't see folks as individuals.  Actually the comments I see made about the liberal mindset are so far removed from the reality of most liberals in the United States it verges on the ridiculous, well no, it doesn't verge on the ridiculous, it IS ridiculous.

As far as your further condemnation of Democrats as far as blacks and their allegiances, I believe most informed political science folks would be the first to admit that the party doctrines have evolved over time.  What probably counts most is the current party belief system.  Just some common sense.

End of sermon.

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I agree with some of what you said about the state representatives being held accountable.  I did vote for Senate candidates in the last election based on their stances on healthcare.  One of them has been working tirelessly (with many others) to expand CHIP health insurance to kids to more middle-income children in the state, and he was successful!  Now that the income bracket was raised, my 6-year-old has healthcare again, and I am so grateful! (Bush is threatening to veto the legislation that expanded CHIP to more families, though, so I'm praying he does not do that).

I am relatively young (26) and so many of my friends do not vote.  I am always encouraging them to do just that (whether they vote Democrat or Republican), and I think if Senate recall (I think that's what you called it) was in place, more of them might vote.  For now, we just have to hope they keep their campaign promises in hopes of being re-elected.

I know Congress needs to pass the bills on health insurance, and I know many of the Congressmen (on both sides of the aisle) have been bought and paid for by the insurance companies, and that is very disturbing to me.  That's one of the reasons I like Obama so much - I think he is a good man who has not been "bought and paid for" by any big corporations.

I think America needs to cover all medical costs for our children and our elderly, and I hope more Republicans candidates will address that issue.  We need to take better care of our most helpless citizens.

Michelle Obama.  She just comes off to me as a bitter and arrogant woman.  Joe Biden are just ignorant sometimes.  He is a likeable guy and I like his smile but the words that come out of his mouth....I bet the dems cringe every time they see him start to talk. 

I would much rather see McCain and Palin in office.  I don't agree with everything they do, but for the most part....I stand along with them on issues. 

I cannot stand behind Obama and the things he stands for.