I think Jesse Jackson's probem is that Obama is not trying to hide the problems - see message
Posted By: anon on 2008-07-10
In Reply to: What did Jesse Jackson do now? Has he been drinking - or what? nm
He is not trying to hide the problems in the black community - like his speech about father's needing to stand up and become involved in their children's lives - not just "bear the fruit" and leave it to rot... Most black people want their problems kept quiet and they will take care of it themselves. Also if there is a problem in the black community, they want to take care of it themselves and not broadcast it for the world to become aware (like they do not already know). As long as there is not a prominent black figure calling attention to their problems, they don't have to recognize them.
It is the same with Bill Cosby. The black community does not like it that he calls attention through the media to the problems. If he were just working behind the scenes quietly, it would be okay.
Understand, I am not prejudiced against black people - very involved with black people and therefore know some of how they think - agree with some of it and disagree with some of it.
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Jesse Jackson/Obama saga
I find the behavior of Jesse Jackson apalling yet predictable; he has time and time again put his foot in his mouth, more than enough to cause his son to state that his father's comments were inappropriate. He is not the first nor I am sure he will be the last individual to make remarks such as this recent one - whether the mike was 'hot' or not did not merit such a statement.
As for the statements made regarding Obama's view regarding black fathers not stepping up to the plate and taking care of their children, I almost find that as apalling as the statement Mr. Jackson made about him. There are many black men who are active in their children's lives whether they are with the child's mother or not; I know of many men (black or otherwise) who are single parents and take care of their families. It is a constant insult to the black community as being the only community who have 'problems', because they tend to 'hide' from them is bull. The media is so fixated on portraying the black community negatively that many outside of it have bought into the stereotype and hold on to it for various reasons.
Bill Cosby? Pleeze!! How can he comment on anyone's morals when it is a well-known fact that he had a very long-term relationship with another woman who was not his wife, provided for a daughter who he says was not 'his' yet can wag his finger at anyone?...Jesse Jackson is no better, he also was involved with another woman who had his daughter to the embarassment and hurt of his wife and children??
I won't even speak on the self-serving comment that "understand I am not prejudiced against black people" that the original poster stated...that kinda speaks for itself...
What did Jesse Jackson do now? Has he been drinking
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Jesse Jackson and the N-word.
The thought of a man who is supposedly an activist for the black community and here he is calling an African American man the N-word.......just shows how big of a detriment he is to the black community. Good thing he supports Obama. I'd hate to see what he would say about him if he wasn't supporting him....Sheesh. What a load of crap! I don't want Obama for pres, but I still think the comments Jackson has made are highly offensive. If I were Obama, I wouldn't want Jackson's backing. In fact, I would denounce him and state that I could not accept the backing of a man who finds it acceptable to call any African American the N-word. If any white person had called Jackson the N-word......oh my gosh.....would the poop hit the fan then.
I'm white and I find the N-word offensive. I don't like to hear white people saying it and I don't like to hear black people saying it either. I've never understood why black people find this word so offensive unless another black person is the one saying it. It is offensive whoever says it.
Jesse Jackson gets bomb threats over Imus case...sm
Jesse Jackson gets bomb threats over Imus case
April 15, 2007
BY DAVE NEWBART Staff Reporter/ dnewbart@suntimes.com
The Rev. Jesse Jackson has been hit with a series of bomb threats since leading a charge to get shock jock Don Imus fired.
Jackson said he fielded a call Saturday morning urging him to watch his back and warning him to stay away from Rainbow/PUSH headquarters on the South Side.
Friday, a Jackson staffer took a call from someone who claimed to have planted a bomb at the headquarters at 50th and Drexel. The building was evacuated about 12:30 p.m., and police swept the building with bomb-sniffing dogs. Nothing was found.
Jackson said he has received 10 to 12 threats starting Wednesday or Thursday. The calls have gone to his office, his home and his cell phone. Although he hasn't fielded most of the calls, he said he believes there are different people behind them.
A police spokeswoman said an investigation is ongoing.
In New York, meanwhile, WCBSTV.com reported the Rev. Al Sharpton has also received death threats after criticizing Imus.
Imus was fired from his radio show for calling members of the Rutgers women's basketball team nappy-headed hos.
Obama/Jesse saga
Chele -
Thank you for your comment...everyone here is entitled to their opinion and I definitely respect this; however as I stated before and will again - it is my belief that the media continually portrays black people in a negative manner and yes, many outside of the black community if not overtly; subconsciously hold onto that because it makes them feel better ('I'm glad I'm not like THAT'), and it saddens me. PEOPLE are PEOPLE period - this is the way I was brought up and I am glad I had parents who taught me this.
How do you know Obama has nothing to hide? sm
I get no real pleasure with my gut feelings on this man. He was a complete unknown except for his past associations which he completely denied and threw to the curb when needed. It is a fact that he has put under lock and key, important documents that reveal his character. What you have seen play out in the media, is what they want you to see.
Everyone has a past. Hopefully, Obama can rise above it and prove himself to be an honorable leader. But some of his choices show his lack of character, and only time will tell who the real man is, who will become our next president shortly.
Yeah, trying to hide Obama's answer, which is the
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People with nothing to hide, hide nothing!
One of my favorite quotes!
Jesse Ventura takes on Fox and Friends!
A true American hero, a former SEAL who underwent controlled waterboarding as part of his training, OWNED Fox and Friends. Well done, Governor, but I doubt you will be invited back on Fox in the immediate future.
http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/05/19/ventura-schools-kilmeade/
Aw, too bad. But, now Michael Jackson...
...is in the Middle East doing consulting about theme parks??? Did I hear that right, what's up with that?
I went to Basic & AIT at Ft. Jackson
I'd love to see it now. That would bring back some memories (it was 28 years ago) - man am I that old? HA HA
You missed a bunch of hate-filled messages directed towards me today because I brought up something about Obama they didn't want to hear. Just snyde and dirty nasty hate filled remarks towards me trying to put me down. DH asked why I was so upset and I told him someone was yelling that I'm a racist. I let him read all the messages and he about fell on the floor laughing (I'm black). HA HA That did cheer me up.
Michael Jackson did it
practically overnight!
Yea, where isn't the NAACP, Jackson, Sharpton
I know.... I know.....it's called money. They'll do anything for money. Obama knew she was targeting blacks and minorities, basically a predator, and what did he do about it......wonderful man looking out for impoverished and poor. He swooped her up and made her a friend!!!!
Only thing missing is Michael Jackson....way
Wow! I didn't know the OP's personal thoughts on the Michael Jackson case.
How did YOU know?
Obama once again lied - see message
Henry Kissinger was just interviewed. He said he never said to sit down with "no preconditions". Once again another reason I don't trust Obama.
Well we all know you love your lord Obama, - see message
So you wouldn't see this with an open mind. Luckily enough people are seeing this as being too cultish. Compare it with North Korean videos of the kids singing to their dictator, same with Saddam Hussein's regime and the Hitler Youth Groups. As for the Lyrics "we're going to change the world". That is not the job of the "President of the United States". That means ONLY the united states. Not the whole blasted world. How would you feel if Akmindinajab (sp?) was saying he was going to change the world (of course to the way he thinks). Would you be okay with that?
Have you noticed that you get that message with almost all the Obama videos??? nm
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I did not think Obama was for universal health coverage... see message
I thought he was just for a coverage to be available to all people - but not mandatory to take it. Am I wrong?
Obama is a natural-born American...see message
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
Now you can sleep well. I'm not voting for Obama, but I can't stand it when people stir crap up that isn't true.
Obama could win popular but still lose election - see message
It is possible. It has happened before. I think now especially in these final two days, when people are hearing Obama saying in a radio interview that he will bankrupt coal companies and skyrocket electricity bills, a lot of people are really wondering. Especially the states where coal is their major industry. They are starting to realize that a vote for the O means they'll be out of work. Along with the birth certificate issue not being resolved, and other the other numerous questions about the O people are really wondering about him.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081103/ap_on_el_pr/split_decision_4
Why is it sad? What do you have to hide? nm
I don't have anything to hide, do you?
I could care less if the government opens my mail (which they have been doing for years and long before 9/11 BTW), my emails or listens to my phone conversations. I have nothing to hide. You also are not allowed to send contraband in the mail. It's a federal offense and always has been. If one were speaking to terrorists and live in this country one should be brought up on charges of aiding and abetting the enemy and for being a traitor to this country.
I have nothing to hide. If this is
actually going on, they would quickly realize that I'm no threat. The worst they could get me for is gossiping.
No need to run and hide from
What I heard Obama reiterate his consistent policy to Joe the unlicensed. In the absence of a link, not too sure I heard that "below Joe" phrase from Obama, but I am assuming you are referring to income levels. Apparently, you did not hear me say that progressive tax structure has been in place for as long as I can remember and that giving tax cuts and tax credits, allowing tax cuts to expire, adjusting tax rate, adding and subtracting deductions, opening and closing loopholes revising categories of tax burden to be benefit or detriement of any given class (i.e, shrubs's tax cuts to the rich that redistributed tax burden "downward" onto the middle class) is nothing new under the sun and is actually very, very American.
You obviously do not understand (or at least, have a selective understanding of) socialism. Palin's "collective ownership of resources" skips that bump in the road all together and smack of communism...straight up, as does government ownership of banks and lending institutions along with government buy-outs of privately owned properties such as homes, as proposed by McCain. If Obama is a socialist, so is McCain, so is Palin and so is the shrub....unless of course, you would have us believe that as long as the bucks are directed upward to a ruling elite class (as was the case in the Soviet Union) and left to trickle down across the land does not qualify as redistribution of wealth.
Get over yourself. Palin and McCain have busted their own slur campaign just by opening their mouths. It does not matter to me whether or not you understand basic economics...what matters to me is how this folly is playing out on the campaign trail with the undecided and independent voters.
I think if they had tried to hide it...(sm)
it would have been 10 times worse. -- that would also be true if we were talking about dems in that position. Having said that, since Palin advocates abstinence and safe sex (as do the dems), the position her daughter is in only proves that this approach does not always work. I don't fault Palin or her daughter for the pregnancy, but I do fault the republican party for putting her up there as an example. It just sends a mixed message. I just think it was a bad choice.
NY'ers would never run and hide
I am a born and bred New Yorker and you bet we would stand and fight. New Yorkers are quite a tough bunch. You must never have met a New Yorker cause you would not question whether they would stand and fight. And if you are a Brooklynite, LOL, you are even tougher.
The only one who would worry about it is the one who has something to hide. sm
I could care less. I won't answer in this thread anymore.
Run and hide from this can of worms
You think you can dismiss W administration boondoggle on this by pointing a finger at 2 people? Cooked books do not even qualify as the tip of the iceberg on this issue. I will not be going to chat rooms and biased resources to analyze this one. It is HUGE and frightening in terms of just how close the country is to total economic collapse. Whether you realize it or not, this crisis has global consequences in overseas markets. We will not be the only ones mopping up and ultimately a global solution will need to come into play.
In any case, this subject deserves more than just a casual flippant dismissal, is quite complicated and requires objective and in-depth analysis before concluding who is responsible and, more importantly, what can be done in terms of policy and legislation to prevent it from happening in the future. Most definitively, of paramount importance will be the "R" word that sends chills down the spine of W's flock…regulation of the mortgage/banking lending practices. W is positively allergic to that idea, and McCain's policy on that is exactly what now? At least Obama had already addressed this issue in his platform and is currently making an effort to "study" the situation further before issuing any further statement on it. I appreciate that in a leader, especially when it comes to a crisis of such magnitude.
Your Enron analogy is delusional. Enjoy while you can and just wait for the real underlying issues to reach the light of day. Like I said before, this feminist flap is a featherweight distraction from critical problems our nation is facing, but then again, I would expect nothing less from the JM/SP camp.
He can't hide the fact
that he cheated on his first wife many times before he met Cindy McCain and left his wife for her. I also have a good friend who as a former fighter pilot actually knew John McCain. He saw the philandering first-hand and has a very low opinion of him. And he is a conservative republican.
Probably because you hide behind your anonymous
daily moniker. You won't tell anyone what you do, who you are, or what your husband does.
The previous poster did, and I applaud her and her husband for all their hard work and dedication, and community involvement.
Sounds like someone I'd like to call a friend.
I have nothing to hide either - but don't want them listening to me - nm
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I myself think she was trying to hide it as long as she could -
the night she was first brought out, her daughter held the other baby in front of her all the time with an old blanket draped across her front. At the time, I kept wondering, why she would do that, and now I believe she was trying to hide her stomach from view that night.
O will fold and hide
behind Michelle's ample skirt. He has neither the experience or the guts to do what is needed. We will be run into the ground under and trampled over under O.
Yep, she could not hide her bias.
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Hide and watch. Isn't that what our very own
do, hide and watch right before they pull the trigger like they did with Dr. Tiller in a church no less? When it is Obama that is their next victim that they have been **hiding and watching**, I can't wait to see the explanations for that from the hiders and watchers on this very own board.
Limberger lies and tries to hide it, LOL
Biggest bunch of bunk? Limberger stated terrible things about Sheehan, ranting and raving. Then when he is called on it, he has it disappear from his website and states he never said any of it. Yet, the proof is in the pudding. Limberger is a liar, as are quite a few of the prominent radical right wing neocons, including the warmonger chickenhawk in the WH. The proof is there, the words were spoken by the druggie. So there is no reason to get all huffy and puffy, you have nothing to defend. Thank goodness for the written word and videos. Limberger..phew, he stinks.
Party all you want. Then go hide your money from
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Oooooo...let's all hide under the bed till he's gone! (nm)
You right-wingers are some wacky folks! I can't help but laugh at some of your posts.
Yes, any money you have left, hide it!. Otherwise,
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be grateful you have money to hide
so stingy and hateful
No instead they hide behind woman and children
In their own country. Not in boats.
I wish the people reporting this on the news would not be so iggy.
This is a lie. They live in Gaza. They don't hide there.
They were democratically elected into power, defeating the Fatah party, which retains its majority in the West Bank, but Hamas has won elections there, too.
The majority of the people in Gaza live in the squalor of refugee camps under the iron fist of their hostile occupiers who imposed an apartheid police state and enforce blockades of basic supplies such as food, medicine and MONEY. This strangles their economy and starves their people. Israel was supposed to lift the blockade as part of the cease fire conditions. They have had since June to do this and by the time the cease fire expired on December 19th, they had not done so and had no intention of doing so. THAT is why the cease fire did not hold. Surprise, surprise. More lies and broken promises from Israel, only these particular lies are creating deadly and fatal conditions for the entire population in Gaza. Can you say genocide? It's a war of attrition at the hands of Israel and sanctioned by the United States.
They do not hide behind women and children. The population in Gaza supports the resistance to the blockade, since they and their children are the ones who are being slowly starved to death. That's why they elected Hamas. An occupied population which has been invaded repeatedly, blockaded, has the highest unemployment rate in the world (Gaza at 45%), has no medical supplies and is on the verge of starvation tend to arm themselves and band together against their common enemy. It's human nature to do so. This is not about anything more than simple survival for them.
Actually, I was TRYING to hide from Rush; impossible because...sm
like a very bad itchy rash, or the smell of cow manure, he is EVERYWHERE, even to ignorant dems/independents who (OH MY GOD) get all the nes channels, C-SPAN, that the special Republicans can. You know, it is ironic that Rush could be a lying, hypocritical pill-popper addict AND still be the messiah of the Republican Right. Were he a Dem or Independent, there is NO WAY that stuff would have EVER been forgotten/forgiven, no way. Just because we are not listening to the rantings of a hypocritical, press-hunting, pompous, loud, obnoxious BS'er like Rush does not mean we "don't get the real news"....on the contrary, I think it shows we do, and we can read between the lines and interpret with intelligence. JMHO, putting on my flame-retardant suit.
And that's NO JOKE! Hide and watch! Exactly what
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If it's high you flash it, if it's low you hide it.....sm
like everything else, isn't it?
You hide BEHIND race...that is your obsession with O
And, yes, admit it, you didn't have a clue about MLK, as many that repeat his words don't know, or they would rethink the Obama thing....
You do NOT know what he stood for, you just repeat stuff he has said and that is all. Do you know how he felt about dems? No, you don't.... how he detested them? no, you don't, do your homework and stop trying to twist things around...
For you and especially the loud mouth ranting earlier, race is THE issue...so why is it you don't mind spewing it out but you just can't take the truth thrown back at ya?! I suspect you should get over it as you put it...
He's real. He is who is he is and he doesn't hide behind fakery. sm
I respect him for that. Harry Truman was not polished either. Neither as Lyndon Johnson. It's just not a big deal right now.
Doesn't hide behind fakery? You are kidding, right?sm
I am surprised lightning has not struck the man for all his lying, never mind all the blood on his hands.
people who hide behind God for bad manners and stupidity irk me
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I won't hide! It's kinda hard to give
posts any merit when the writer won't come forward. I don't like getting slammed, but what the heck--guess I deserve it sometimes.
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