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I think it's an accurate reflection of how most people feel.

Posted By: PK on 2006-06-19
In Reply to: Majority backs GIs, not Iraq War...see link - Democrat

Which is good, considering how Americans treated Vietnam vetes, which I think was deplorable.


These poor guys are fighting Bush's personal war, and they're doing the very best they can, given the fact they were sent in there so ill equipped by the government they serve. 


I'm so sad today about the news that two soldiers may have been kidnapped by al Qaeda.  If that's true, I think about Nick Berg, and I shudder to wonder what the fate of these young men will be.  I'm praying that they be found, safe and alive.  They are so young.  This is so, so sad.


At the same time, I'm also angered at the fact they were placed in that position in the first place, based on nothing more than George Bush's war of lies and deceit. 


Why won't anyone listen to John Murtha?  In his very first statement, he said our troops should be redeployed to the periphery.  The right wing misrepresented what he said, as usual, and called it *cutting and running,* when what he said was REDEPLOY TO THE PERIPHERY.  That's what every mother does when removing the training wheels from her child's first bicycle.  She cuts him/her loose but is still there in the background to save him/her if there's trouble.  That's what Murtha proposed.  But the neocons would rather our troops be killed or tortured.  I even read a post somewhere, along the lines of Tony Snow's *2,500 is just  number* when referring to American deaths in Iraq, citing something stupid Rush Limbaugh said regarding how many murders take place in the United States and, of course, how many abortions take place, inferring, as well, that 2,500 really isn't that high a number when you compare to murders and abortions.  I guess it's their new spin as soldiers' deaths increase, which is deplorable.


The Iraqis need to learn to defend themselves.  They can't do that if we're in their way all the time.


And don't forget:  We're fighting TWO wars at once, Iraq and Afghanistan.  Funny how we don't hear much about bin Laden these days, even though the war is still going on.  How much thinner can we spread our military?  And could we have gotten bin Laden if we had kept our focus on the people who actually attacked us?


This is just getting worse and worse and worse.  I hope our country can survive through 2008 without Bush doing much more damage to it.  I will be so relieved when he is out of office and I can finally (hopefully) feel a sense of hope for America.  




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This is good news. It is a reflection of public opinion of the..sm
republican party and how they are running the country. Hope this tide keeps on rolling.
Well, I don't feel sorry for the "ignorant" people s/m

who can't see the issues with their McCain blinders on.  Be careful what you wish for, you may still get McCain.  Trouble is, the rest of us who aren't quite so "ignorant" of the issues will have to live with it.  And by the way, calling people who don't agree with you "ignorant" is just pretty pompous IMHO.


VOTING FOR LOU DOBBS!!!


I feel bad for the people who witnessed it.
But, as for Tiller, I hope he rots in He!!. Sounds like he's well on his way.

And before you whine about my remark, it's called freedom of speech. Get used to it. I was also happy when Sadaam was executed.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.
39% of people polled feel SP is as qualified as O
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Why do people feel the need to come over and do a one time bash n' dash? sm
Sometimes opinions just don't necessarily have to be expressed.
This is not accurate.

The website that was provided very cleverly misled the reader to believe it was "required."  They typed the word REQUIRED (in red and underlined just as I typed it) which led to the REAL link describing his proposal.  Nowhere in the GENUINE link did it describe anything that was REQUIRED.  It is a voluntary program.  My guess is that everyone read the propaganda site and didn't bother to click on the link (as I typed it above) which showed the true program.


I'm going to try to explain this again.  Once again, here is the link that was provided as "proof" regarding Obama's program:  http://kokonutpundits.blogspot.com/2008/11/obamas-new-youth-corp-requirement.html


I copied and pasted part of it below.  Note where it says, "Yes, require."  The article then goes on to mislead the reader about the program.  If you click on the "require" link, it will take you to the GENUINE website that TRULY describes Obama's program, which I have also copied and pasted here in full.


"Misleading" site"


Friday, November 07, 2008



Obama's New Youth Corp Requirement?




Obama to set up a draft-like bill requiring 13 to 25 year olds to perform community service. Yes, REQUIRE.



The Obama Administration will call on Americans to serve in order to meet the nation’s challenges. President-Elect Obama will expand national service programs like AmeriCorps and Peace Corps and will create a new Classroom Corps to help teachers in underserved schools, as well as a new Health Corps, Clean Energy Corps, and Veterans Corps. Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by developing a plan to require 50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year. Obama will encourage retiring Americans to serve by improving programs available for individuals over age 55, while at the same time promoting youth programs such as Youth Build and Head Start.


Genuine site (that you get by clicking on red "require" link in "misleading" site):



America Serves


"When you choose to serve -- whether it's your nation, your community or simply your neighborhood -- you are connected to that fundamental American ideal that we want life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness not just for ourselves, but for all Americans. That's why it's called the American dream."

The Obama Administration will call on Americans to serve in order to meet the nation’s challenges. President-Elect Obama will expand national service programs like AmeriCorps and Peace Corps and will create a new Classroom Corps to help teachers in underserved schools, as well as a new Health Corps, Clean Energy Corps, and Veterans Corps. Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by setting a goal that all middle school and high school students do 50 hours of community service a year and by developing a plan so that all college students who conduct 100 hours of community service receive a universal and fully refundable tax credit ensuring that the first $4,000 of their college education is completely free. Obama will encourage retiring Americans to serve by improving programs available for individuals over age 55, while at the same time promoting youth programs such as Youth Build and Head Start.





"Genuine Link":  http://change.gov/americaserves/


NOWHERE does it imply or read that anything will be REQUIRED.


THIS tactic is exactly how lies are started and fears are raised.


Accurate, though.
About as classy as subversive Christian politics, without the million-dollar sheen.

If I could have thought of a "classier" metaphor, believe me I would have. Unfortunately, that is EXACTLY how the ad made me feel, & I have no desire to sugar-coat the insidiousness of the Christian right; not for you or anyone else.
Accurate, though.
About as classy as subversive Christian politics, without the million-dollar sheen.

If I could have thought of a "classier" metaphor, believe me I would have. Unfortunately, that is EXACTLY how the ad made me feel, & I have no desire to sugar-coat the insidiousness of the Christian right; not for you or anyone else.

You should thank your lord & savior that NO ONE is cramming atheism or agnosticism down your gullet in the same manner.
If your definition is accurate
which I highly dobut then I guess I'm a liberal because I don't pledge blind loyalty to Bush. On the other hand I don't think every word he says is a lie either. I think he is a human capable of human mistakes, but I don't think every problem in the world at this moment is Bush's fault like many on this board do. I think many people are obsessed with the fact there's a conservative in office. It wouldn't matter what their name was Bush or Smith, the obsession would be the same. There are many wacko theories out there on all sorts of issues, but some I have read here take the cake. You don't talk about any other issues other than Bush is fault of everything wrong in this world. To me, liberal or conservative, is a little off the deep end no matter what political ideology you come from.
This is not an accurate statement
Please provide non-partisan sources that state that the majority of scientists state that global warming is bunk.
Nope, just accurate.

The polls are not accurate...
slanted for obama like everything else the liberal media tells you. People (myself included) tend to believe what they want to believe
You do know that Wikipedia is not always accurate, don't you?
I would hope you don't believe everything on the internet. Too bad people don't read or think for themselves anymore and have to trust websites (which can be compromised) for all of their information. It's so easy to cut and paste and not do any real research. Just look at some of the reports we type up; Google is used for everything and can be wrong.
Green with NAUSEA is more accurate.
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This is excellent and paints a very accurate picture!

This is so true.  All these people are so ready and eager to kill other people's children.


I didn't notice the name of a very decorated, true war hero on that list, though:  Colin Powell, the only honest, honorable member of Bush's "team."  He's a Republican, very intelligent, reasonable, has seen the ravages of war firsthand, and didn't seem to fit in with all the other boys on Bush's team who were obviously deprived of "GI Joe" playtime hours when they were 5 years old and are trying to make up for lost time.


 


Polls may not be accurate as pollsters call land...sm
lines and many people only have cell phones. 
Potato totally accurate, left out part where
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_the_plumber#Plumbing_career

This will verify all of Potato's claims, and mine.
and I feel like makin *du du duu du du duu* feel like maaa-k-in love to YOU!
ARGH!!


You feel someone should be forced to do something they feel is wrong? sm
Sounds like communism to me.
I do not feel sorry for the 'terrorists', I feel
sorry for those who are (or soon were) held there and are innocent.
So you and your daughter have no problem with people who wish for people and their children sm
to burn in hell, call people's children ugly, etc. etc.  Well, you might not BE gt, but you might as well be.  Even the liberals don't agree with gt, or hadn't you noticed?  You might want to check that out and while you are at it, the conservative board has been a regular play pen since the liberals stopped their hateful dive bombing.  In fact, some really good conversations are taking place over there between both sides, which DOES NOT happen on this site. 
Bored people are BORING people.
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Is that how your people justify killing people?

I feel ya..

I just have to try and stay positive.  I dont want THEM to win.


 


JUST KIDDING!!!


Hey, why don't you tell us how you really feel?
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Tell us how you really feel
I think you need to use about 1,000 more ugly adjectives to make your point...
Feel the same way...
....I learn a lot on this board.  Let's give the administrator a chance???  Otherwise IGNORE the trolls, even though it is really really hard!
LOL I feel the same way!
I am intrigued with his eloquence, not to mention his intelligence and complete command of law knowledge. Yeah, I know he's been studying and practicing, but he seems pretty sincere.

I'm just worried about the proverbial wolf in sheep's clothing. He is a conservative and if Bush nominates another conservative, well...

One of my concerns is the abortion issue. I am personally against abortion, but I am pro-choice. It scares me to think what would happen if Roe V Wade was overturned. Illegal abortions, girls and nonwealthy women dying. Of course, we would definitely see a rise in D&C's for the rich and connected.
I feel sorry for him, too.
He was always one of my favorites.  He still is.  He was *conned* just like the rest of the world.  I can understand why he resigned.  Being a man of such honesty and integrity, I hope he doesn't beat himself up too much personally about it.  I don't believe he intentionally meant to lie.  He was merely another victim of the current administration. 
I feel the same way. sm
I have issues with much of President Bush's policy, most espeically immigration and big spending.  I don't see that President Bush supports the true conservative mindset.  I do support him, however, because he does uphold many other conservative values including abortion and I am 100% behind the war against Islamic terrorists.
Many feel it is necessary
I am not the only one who feels protesting is necessary, as you well know.

It is nice to spout opinions about what YOU think are the consequences of protesting, but there is no facts to back this up and is pure speculation, which I continue to see quite a bit of.


No need to feel sorry!! nm
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Im sorry you feel that way,
however, theres nothing superficial about the content in the video. Pets already have these type of chips implanted in them. Tracking chips. This is very REAL.

These chips are around NOW. As seen on on the video, a family has already volunteered to have these v chipis implanted. Theses chips will be more sophisticated than the ones placed in pets. Medical information, banking information, everything about you will be in this chip. At first it may be voluntary but before long these will be mandatory, to to buy or sell or do anything. Sure sounds like Revelation to me. End Times.

For those who have Christ's Salvation, they will be taken up with him in the clouds when he comes back. It's the ones left behind that will suffer this and many other great tribulations. Things are happening all around us that are in the book of REVELATIONS. Wars and rumors of war. Famine, Floods, Natural Disasters everytime you turn around. Rampant homosexuality, Abortions, pornography kids killing kids, gang violence, sexuality strewn everywhere and many other things on the news. This world is full of evil. Satans playground. Not to mention the economy and the shape it's in. People are losing their homes, jobs. There focus is on material things. Charge it now, worry about it later. It's all catching up. Yes, I believe we are in End Times. I do respect your opinion though. I will respectfully agree to disagree.

God Bless.
Lisa
Feel Ya
I really feel you.  I was in the credit union one day recently and actually talked to a woman I know who was there to process an application for a credit card because of that idiotic commercial.
"I feel so alone..."

Sorry you feel that way.
Sorry you can't let people live their own lives without feeling the need to determine that a woman "must have a baby no matter what". I guess you would rather see a child raised in poverty, be hungry, live with abusive parents, be a punching bag if the parents take their frustation out on the child, feel unloved, and unwanted. After all.. the person who got pregnant as someone so delicately put it "needs to deal with it and be responsible". Sure it's responsible to bring a child into a horrible horrible home just so the mother can "suffer the consequences" that she accidentally got pregnant. Never mind the condom broke or her birth control pills didn't work, or she was raped, or it was found that the child would be severely crippled or retarded and would never ever have any hopes of having a normal or decent life, or any of the other numerous reasons someone may have gotten pregnant. But by god they better have that child and pay for their mistake.

We are all entitled to our opinions, but when it comes to another woman deciding with her doctor the best course of action for her future and the future of a baby (who is not even developed yet and cannot feel pain or think) that's where I draw the line and it then is not my business and if it happens to me it is nobody elses business - and that is my opinion!

We don't need to watch any abortion films. We all know the process and what happens. If the baby has developed it's a horrible horrible thing. There is no denying that. At the same time it's quick. Making a child suffer for life (60, 70 & 80 years or more) your okay with that??? I say let the child be born into the Kingdom of Heaven where the child will not have to suffer the consequence of a horrible life on earth but feel the love forever our our creator.
Isn't that odd? I feel the same way about...
true believers of BO/JB.
Sorry you feel that way.......
One doesn't have to be "religous" to feel abortion is murder. Believe it or not, there are "nonbelievers" out there who believe abortion is murder. Some are so condemning of those that believe it is murder because a lot of them have had or know of someone who have had an abortion and have those feelings/issues to deal with.

And the "crutch" you refer to, which I believe would be God, isn't a bad thing, ya know. Maybe you should try it!!!!!!
I wonder about this too. I feel really bad for...sm
the soldiers that have had their tours of duty extended up to 12 months and when they get home for a few months, get sent back again. How long can this keep up. So many of them are National Guard who have real jobs and families back home. It is just not fair that the burden is shared by so few.
I feel the same way as you do.
DH told me there is some site that tells who voted for it and against it.

The whole lot of them needs to be fired!!!! Especially starting with the ones you mentioned.

The dems are sitting there patting themselves on the back for getting this to pass when they are the ones who put the crisis in hand.

Both Obama and McCain voted for it. I'm disgussed with both of them. I'm voting for the constitution party this election. It's about time we put the country back on the right track.

It is true though. We have no control. We are supposed to, but it seems like the people are just placing themselves in the position of office. Pelosi? Give me a break. She's been in there how long and she's still doing a sh!tty job. Frank? Pulleease. And Dodd? He's probably the worse. No wonder why Connecticut (my home state) wants him to remain in Washington, they don't want him in Connecticut.

Politicians in DC, corrupt to the max, liars to the bone.


Most of what you say is exactly how I feel. I too...sm
have a hard time about the Rev. Wright's church and his sermons. I would really like for Obama to explain this further, but I have a feeling that his handlers are afraid that this would inject race into the campaign and are not addressing it. This, however, is not a deal breaker for me because I do not believe religion should be an issue and plan on voting for Obama. More positives for me than negatives.
This is how I feel.....sm
The last 6 years, people have been buying what they cannot afford. Our children learn from us and sad to say, but they want everything now and charge what they can't afford because that's what they learned from their parents. My 2 sons have gotten things just like others (cell phones, new clothes, etc.), but I made sure that they waited until they could appreciate what was given to them. Most college kids want Obama for president because they want change NOW. My son goes to Hofstra Law and says he will vote for Obama because Obama understands the younger generation. We had quite a debate going on here...but like I told my son "when Obama can't and won't even try to prove that he was born in the United States, that there is something definitely wrong here". Like my mother said on her dying bed 6 years ago "there are going to be a lot of changes in this world". People were living the high life while my family just made it month by month. My mother also said that day "the people higher on the ladder will fall harder than the people who actually worked for their money and appreciated every dollar" I'm glad that I didn't give in and buy a beamer just because I wanted one. It's time that the people who wanted everything NOW and went out and charged and borrowed, pay the piper. It sucks, but I guess I will be paying for the people who lived so lavishingly the past 6 years.
I am sorry that you feel this way. NM
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I would feel the same about it either way.
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Here's how they feel. (sm)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8

They do have plenty of courage. It is many in the general public who do not. That is the point. The military and their families are fighting this war, while the rest of the country lives as though there is no war at all.
thank you for that :-) I feel the same (nm)
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All I can say is that I feel sorry for you.... sm
I guess, out of the goodness of our Democratic hearts, we will have to drag you kicking and screaming with us to a new and better world. No hard feelings!
I mean feel sorry for Just the Big Bad.nm
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All I can say is that I feel sorry for you.... nm
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Wow - thanks - you said everything I feel
And you haven't been bashed yet? Now that's surprising.
I feel sorry for you and the way you think.
I made an honest assessment, as I don't post here often.

You just don't care to hear the truth about yourself.