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I was not referring to an individual as being self-righteous,

Posted By: sweetpea on 2008-11-05
In Reply to: She's not self-righteous.... we need to be kind to each other (sm) - MeMT

I was referring to the collective you that applies to anyone that maybe needs to see a different perspective.


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Then let each individual
deal with the personal consequences, if there are any. Don't mandate what they can and cannot do.
we. we, we....is there an individual among you?
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an individual wrote this and -
every individual has a right to his/her own opinion, but that does not mean that the countries are saying we were duped. The people in other countries are just like the people in America - you either love him or you hate him - there is no in between for Obama.

I personally think that we have him now as POTUS and we should stand behind the man and show respect for the office he is holding and give him a chance to do something before we continue to tear him down.

I hear people say Obama has already broken this promise or that promise, but how can he break promises he made when he is not even the president yet? Give him a chance - if he messes up, then talk about it and be upset -- and even though I voted for him, I will be upset right along with you.
How lost an individual you are....
I am not a republican and it doesn't take much for one to now see that this president has NO loyalty to this country. NOTHING AT ALL!! He has an agenda that has absolutely nothing to do with this country but control!! You need to wake up!

Treason? 'a more serious acts of disloyalty to one's sovereign or nation'...

How very sad for you that you don't even realize that in a "free country" one is allowed to speak out against their president. THAT IS NOT TREASON!!! that is what sickos in Iran call treason.... do you akin yourself with the likes of those sick tyrannical leaders?

That is exactly what Obama is doing. Speaking out against our president is our constitutional right...to keep things in check and NOT allow government too much power or control into our lives.

So sorry for you. You are truly the very kind Obama longs for.... he needs to take care of you don't ya know? You are obviously too ignorant to do it for yourself!
Where were you and all your righteous indignation

when Nan called Dixie Dew a drunk on the Conservative board not too long ago?


Oops, that's right.  I forgot.  If Nan or AG or MT does it, it's okay, and they're just poor victims being constantly attacked by the liberals.


Also, if Person A wishes Person B (the president) to rot in hell, it (a) does not mean they wish the person dead; it means they hope the person gets what's coming to them when they wind up IN hell for all the unnecessary deaths they are responsible for here on earth; and (b) it certainly doesn't mean that Person C (not even INVOLVED in the original thought) can take that statement and accuse Person A of wishing Person C DEAD.  Unless, of course, Person C is now hallucinating and asserting that SHE'S the President of the United States.  If that's the case, then it all makes perfect sense! 


You've shown yourself for the fraud you truly are.


God bless the self-righteous!

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She's not self-righteous.... we need to be kind to each other (sm)
She said she was very happy about Obama being elected. She is not self-righteous at all. Come on now.
So, was Hitler righteous then? sm

Unfortunately, the reality is that the good guys don't always win.


Oh, there's that self-righteous garbage again
I don't care when you were born, abortion is wrong.....PERIOD!

Even moreso the point you seemed to have missed, it ain't enough I'm going to pay to murder unborn children anyway, Obama is going to FORCE US to pay for babies to be slaughtered in Ethiopia? If they want to kill their babies, they can do it without MY MONEY!
why is it that the Christians are self-righteous sm
condescending and judgement and insulting and your posts are not? Whether you get to heaven is based on whether you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and SAvior. You cannot do anything on your own to warrant heaven.

Whether you believe or not, I am not going to deny my Lord and Savior because you think I am condescending or anything else. I truly hope you reconsider.
Individual independent investigation
I agree it is important to look at raw facts and draw conclusions for yourself. So much of what we see and hear out of the mainstream media is slanted to one side or the other. I believe it is very important for one to get info from independent sources in order to draw enlightened conclusions. I think it's naive at best to trust solely the mainstream media and even partisan sources exclusively for your news. Things can be spun so many different ways. This is one area where we agree.
I hardly consider myself some upper class individual trying
to keep "lower class" in check.  You assume incorrectly.  We can't make everyone happy but we try our best.
On individual incomes exceeding $250,000.
To restore funding for longstanding program commitments slashed, diverted and/or discontinued to fund the war. He cannot create "MORE" programs without majority support from Congress. Should he be able to garner such support, then we would call that representative democratic process, not socialist/Marxist black liberationist theology.
i don't care what the individual income is
how is it anyone else's right to tell me that i have to give ANY portion of my income to help those less fortunate? I don't care if the income is $200,000 or $20,000!
Individual liberty? Why allow the Government
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You got a lotta nerve being so self-righteous
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The Church of the Self-Righteous Has Spoken

I don't care what anyone believes or practices - freedom of religion 


It's the freaks who think THEIR religion is the ONLY RIGHT religion who scare me.


Even Jesus was a liberal.


Like heck it ain't......poster is a self-righteous
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Feel better after your self-righteous rant?
The Palestinians are terrorits, who thrive on chaos and bloodshed.

If it makes you feel all giddy to root for the savages, go ahead. You've clearly closed your mind off to the truth. Just like they wanted you to.

Nice to know even monsters can find support from folks like you.

It must really burn you, though, that Israel is kicking the holy h3ll out of your little bunch of Arab buddies.

So what do you think about the warnings that Palestinans are going to resort to suicide bombers (since they clearly can't hit squat with their rockets)?

Who do you think they're going to strap those little puppies to, anyway? It won't be the "soldiers." No sir. They're targeting their recruitment at women and boys. Yeah, that's real gallant.

Back to the Stone Age! Shouldn't take long now.
The righteous prevail? What a crock.
The self-righteous who are legends in their own minds, maybe, but they are also deluded and never come out on top. And, my dear, there is nothing righteous about wholesale genocidal slaughter of innocent populations no matter how hard you try to justify it.

Fact is that Palestine had been kept geographically intact and its population was not displaced under numerous occupations and invasions for the past 3000 years UNTIL the west got their hands on it. What part of it ain't gonna fly do you not comprehend? Call them losers to your heart's content. They are STILL there and will be there long after you and I have turned to dust.
I was asking what individual people who identify themselves as liberals....
what that meant to them. I can look up liberal in a dictionary...that is not what I meant. There are those on this board who are Democrats, who call themselves liberal Democrats...who obviously do not agree with you, as you state there are no "true" liberals in the Democratic party. This is very interesting. You have my attention again....what in your estimation makes a "true conservative?" Do tell.
Why assume that flag-flying was this individual's
There's nothing in the story to support your assumption that flying the flag represents this individual's complete understanding of the notion of patriotism.

On the other hand, flying the flag IS certainly ONE expression of patriotism - a form of protected speech, in fact - and the ONLY question here is not whether this individual has a simplistic view of patriotism, but whether displaying the flag should have been prohibited.

We'll just call this your quota of "straw man" logical fallacies for the week, shall we? You may not post another one until next week.
I forgot, that is reserved only for the self-righteous on this board
besides, I never claimed I am a woman.

why not bother some of the other posters below regarding their anti-obama comments, no, you probably will not do that, very progressive indeed!
Angry, smug and terminally self-righteous.
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1 more time. INDIVIDUAL income means 1 person.
not a family. It means the income that one single person makes. This means that a husband and wife making less than $500,000 yearly combined incomes will receive tax cuts. I am posting separate information under a second post to dispel any confusion that is being generated on this issue. Small businesses have a different plan does not involve tax increases of any sort of description.
Unbelievable - Individual cities are now asking for money from the bailout -

What do ya'll think about this?  I cannot believe it.  The bailout was bad enough when it was to keep the banks from failing which was going to ruin us all, but now these individual cities are asking for money for things such as mass transit improvements, expansion of clean technology businesses, to fund long-neglected infrastructure, more police, upgrades to airport terminals and runways, upgrades to wastewater treatment plants, etc.


Where is it going to end?  What happened to all the taxes people have been paying in for years anyway?  Why was it not being used for those things all along?  And why should I in Georgia have to pay to give people in other states money to fix things?  Alaskans are not giving me part of that money they get every year from their oil...  Maybe that is selfish - but if they continue to take and take from me, then what I am supposed to do? 


I read that as righteous indignation on Bill's part.


Not what I was referring to...

Anyway, I'm beginning to be sorry I mentioned this.  The whole point was that a poster said TWICE that it was easy enough for her to check ISPs to find out who was using multiple monikers in order to find out what was posting as whom, etc.  I was just questioning that comment, that's all.


As far as the hacking on the protestwarrior.com website, that is a separate issue from what I was referring to.  Someone revealed some folks' personal information on the forum.  I wasn't blaming the owners of the website for that.....


Time for me to give this a rest.


LOL! I was referring to

Bush's invasion of Iraq to *spread freedom* (#2 reason after the failed WMD excuse).  I'd consider it kind of a *gander invasion* (as in what's good for...).  Could you imagine an America where, regardless of wealth, everyone received medical care, nobody starved, everyone had adequate housing?  An America that didn't throw its poor to the wolves (or the *waves* of a hurricane, as pointed out below in the areas that Bush included in his Louisiana plan)?  An American government that allowed personal freedoms, didn't force one set of religious beliefs down your throat via politics, didn't try to control your personal life/death issues, didn't condemn you to unequal rights and eternal damnation because you love the *wrong* person?


I wouldn't object to living in that kind of America. 


Actually, I was referring to

money/evil as it regards George W. Bush, et al.


The UAE has a very unstable history of *loyalty* to the United States, and I believe allowing this deal to go through is very risky business and completely contrary to the man who said *If you're not with us, you're against us,*  who, to me, is now completely against us and in favor of big money.  The 9/11 Commission is totally against this deal.  But anything to defend Dubya, right?


Let me guess...you *accidentally* posted on the liberal board again, right? 


I was actually not referring to you.
 You are not  the message-syntax-style-similar person.
I was not referring to these 2

individuals exclusively. I said there are those who are able to see a problem from all sides. These are the people who will lead us to peace if we can ever achieve it. As far as liars et al, PULEEZE, take a look at our current Congress, take a look at many of our **ministries.**  Take a look at our leaders of industry. Take a look at our professional sports and news people and newspapers.


My point was that one can actually have a viewpoint that is diametrically opposed to yours and still love America, love democracy and disapprove of this administration AND say so out loud. I admire people who can put their personal feelings aside and see incendiary events objectively. I am not able to do that but there are those that can. My post was not a defense of anyone in particular.


I was referring to myself...

the things I have gotten mostly on the C board but some here. I did not say you said any of those things. I just know they have been said to me. I am not championing anyone. I wanted to let Teddy know that she has a place here as does everyone (except if you denigrate W) and some pretty nasty things have been said on both sides. I did not want her to leave because she was, it appeared, standing alone yesterday. The more people are here the better it is.


I don't think that anyone probably deserves some of the rhetoric that appears here and I am amazed at the viciousness sometimes...both sides...but we are representative of a larger picture and that is a good thing.


My apologies, I was not referring to you in any way. I was telling Teddy that I knew how she must feel. It's tough to go it alone sometimes or be the only one on your side (or so it seems). I have been there where I am the only left voice and besides being difficult, it gets really confusing about answering what to who about what. That is all.


This is what I was referring to...
I should probably refrain from any dialogue and perhaps just correct posts that are obviously erroneous (like the one about poverty in the U.S.). Correcting factual errors on their posts would probably be a full time job. Besides I enjoy the research and learn lots!!


Don't know what you are referring to. nm
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I am referring to....
The missionary story told in the "Wow. This is impressive. I agree." post, the point being that there are a multitude of Christian viewpoints, especially when it comes to interpreting the Bible (or any other holy book, for that matter) and reconciling more secular political beliefs.
To whom are you referring?
First, I would like to know exactly to whom you are referring. Second, I would like to know who gave you the power to tell people to go elsewhere? If you are offended by a post or posts, you certainly are free to go elsewhere yourself, but I do not believe you have the right to tell others what to do!
Perhaps she's referring to
A fictional character, John McClane of Die Hard fame. We know she's out of touch with reality.

But why are you referring to....sm
republicans as being rabid tonight? I imagine that term could be used both ways for both parties, but why are you so vehement tonight about only Republicans? Did something happen?



(at least in the posts that I have read...might have missed some, as I don't go back when I've missed a day or so of posts....)


You're usually very level headed, although as you said above on a different post, it sounds like you go right and left on different issues.


And I keep meaning to ask you how your gourd painting is coming along, now that Halloween and fall are upon us. I hope you're having fun with that, as I saw you post on a different board a while back about your hobby....

I was referring to the very same NWO...
...that is the goal of the PNAC that everyone was afraid Bush would cause. 
That's what I was referring too....
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,450445,00.html

The Atheist organizations ran "Why believe in a god" ads in D.C.

I mean if we as Christians can't run ads in secular areas, why should atheists?

By the way, Atheism is becoming a lot like it's own religion nowadays....
That's right - I was referring to him
and should have credited Bubba's name to the quote. Everyone should remember though, Mr. O is not the first black President we've had, according to many Bubba was.
First of all, I was referring to the GOP going . . . .
down the toilet, NOT Fox News.  Secondly, the only reason Fox has the highest ratings on non-cable networks is because all the intellligent people are gleaning their information from the more intelligent cable networks.  I reckon those people in the boonies can't get those fancy cable stations, and so they are forced to pick between the big 3, and besides, Lamebaugh, Beck, et al, are more to their likin', since birds of a feather (or smaller brains) stick together.  So, you all can keep harping on Fox's ratings -- I don't give a rat's behind because I am not impressed (and I am not brainwashed), and I actually have a mind of my own.  I think it is disgraceful that they are even allowed to call themselves a news network -- more like hate-inciting network.
If you are referring to me....
I haven't posted anything since January.  So I think you may have me confused with someone else.  I really just lurk and laugh.  Thanks though!
I think I see now what you're referring to about my post.

I don't find one thing funny about it. I'm outraged about it because blaming anyone BUT the priests is giving a green flag for that behavior to continue.


And I totally agree with you that it's gone on too long, with the church's apparent blessing.  They know what these priests are doing, and they just transfer them to another parish so they can continue with a new set of children.


As far as the "headline" comment about my post, see what you mean about it coming up as a "headline" when you log onto this site.  I didn't realize it was going to come up that way.


Please rest assured that I'm outraged by all this.  Our children in this country are molested and killed every day in what seems to be an epidemic, and nobody is doing anything about it.


OK. But, I wasn't referring to this. That's all I'm trying to say. nm
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Wasn't referring to you....nm

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The 'jokes' I was referring to
were in your previous post. I guess I'm breaking your mold because, while I've never heard AL Franken, I'd break his nose too because what he said in the quote you just provided is hateful. I do not defend one side and slam the other.
Sounds like you are referring to a

certain group of people.  Correct me if I have misunderstood.  Who are you talking about?  The vast majority of conservatives who believe the Bible is divinely inspired support the Constitution and don't want it meddled with.  Your observation truly has me confused. 


I know...I was referring to my typo (nm)
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I still have no idea to whom you are referring!
Why don't you give specific examples, so I can understand what you are talking about? I am not psychic and truly don't know who you are targeting here. Everyone on the board has the ability to post under whatever name they choose. For example, Sam admitted to posting under the name Indy Observer yesterday. No one knew it was her until she revealed it in one of her posts. Do you have special powers that allow you to know who is posting under various names?