I will hold to the tenants of one
Posted By: ExMQMT on 2008-10-31
In Reply to: I'm trying to understand this.....really I am....sm - m
one of the oldest, continuing faiths in the world. I don't see a quandry at all.
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If you would hold your Dem Congress as responsible as you hold me...
THAT would be progress. lol.
Yes, we can always hold
more people see through the BS. Bush & Co. certainly are out in full force *catapulting the propaganda* and swiftboating anyone who disagrees, so who knows? Hopefully fewer people will buy it this time.
I'm sure your grandchild is the cutest and smartest!
You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers.
If you hold with J, that should be enough. nm
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We should not have to hold him up. He should hold
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Well hold onto your hat.....(sm)
because I know of 3 pub senators who are planning to say yea (despite threats from the GOP). LOL.
Whoa...hold on there.
This is/was a good board with some good folks. PERHAPS she just hadn't seen these posts.....maybe....hope that's the case.
Otherwise, I agree that it's probably time to boycott this board. I have long been aware of the definite bias of the powers that be. But I still hold out hope for fairness in the long run. And I was banned on the conservative board for calling someone stupid!!!! (which I shouldn't have, I admit).
Oh, just hold that thought.
This is great - can we hold em to it? sm
First Rummy, then we will work on the rest. I think they are starting to realize they are getting backed up to the wall.
Boxer quote: You can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig. Love it.
who they hold responsible for what?
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hold on to your hats
The bottom is starting to drop out of this thing. I am positive the media (who are angry already about the phony "bias" attack by McCain) will NOT let SP's silence go unnoted.
ifin' they did I would hold them
up as shiny examples of Moral Magnificance, same as Palin's daughter.
I''ve got a tux on hold
and a vacation day scheduled . . . just in case.
Someone needs to hold them accountable.
Obviously their own party is not going to. Glad to pile on Bush and the Republicans for every wrong they think they did, but accept no responsibility or ask accountability of their own party who let us ALL down.
Oldtimer, I do not understand that. No way, no how.
Nah, we have to hold our mouth in a
different position in that case. Must have been something else.
Whoa and hold on!!!
First and foremost, please express my personal appreciation to your husband for his service to this country. By no means would I EVER ridicule a military person. They have served and DIED for the freedom we have and they continue to do so. I say the war in Iraq is ridiculous and that is my personal opinion. I think it was wrong from the getgo and I think it is WRONG to put our service men and woman in harm's way with many of them sacrificing their lives needlessly. There has never been peace in the middle east and there never will be (IMO) all the way back to biblical times.
Bush's "excuse" for the war was to capture or kill bin Laden wasn't it? So why has that not been done? Because, again in my opinion, the war is not against terrorism but about the wealthy oil barons.
AND, I pray for you and your husband. You too are making a great sacrifice and, again, your husband is serving his country and for that he deserves and gets from me the utmost respect whether or not I happen to agree with the politicians who sent him to war. May he be safe and soon return to you.
Whoh! Hold on there.
CLINTON put a lot of those people in government spots. I think he called it Affirmative Action.
I worked for a patent attorney back then and after Clinton got in, half the patent office were, (how can I say it without being branded a racist?) Indian, Pakistani, and a mix of other races. My attorney would be furious when they would return a patent for an error, and he would have to do a 15 page brief on why there was NO error.
Why are all the gas stations and motels now owned, or mostly owned, by other races? Where does the money come from?
There is a large VRAJ temple (sic) a few miles from my house. No one could afford to buy the property when it went up for sale because they wanted close to $1M for it. People from all over the world come there, yet a white person is not allowed to step 1 foot on their property or they will be arrested.
What's up with that?
I hold government as a whole
responsible and that includes all parties. They are all greedy liars who just want to keep their seat and will say and do anything to draw followers in to get elected. So this promise of change is not change at all. It is the same political game that has been played since the very beginning. They all suck. I say we storm Washington with our pitch forks and torches and get all new people in office. What say you? LOL!
I don't hold much with "studies" but
all I know is my parents, who lived through the Great Depression credit FDR for saving the country. I'll take the word of someone who has BTDT over any "study" any day.
Don't hold your breath. I think the
next 4 years is going to be a sink or swim economy, and I don't think many people or companies can swim anymore. Too many are at the end of the rope and about to drown.
I hold government as a whole
responsible for this mess including the last administration as well as this one. I do not like what President Obama is doing. This stimulus package is a joke. It is full of earmarks and pork. I can smell the bacon being fried in D.C. all the way over here in Indiana.
I want to see jobs created. I want more focus on alternative fuels. I want to tap the resources we have now and create jobs. I'm tired of giving money to banks. I'm tired of giving money to people who were irresponsible while harding working people suffer and try to stay afloat because of their bad decisions as well as the bad decisions made by crooks in government.
I didn't totally agree with the bailout Bush pushed for either, but you know what....I believe Barry Obama voted yes to that. He was in the senate and therefore I hold the senate responsible for things too. Bush couldn't do everything himself and there were plenty of dems in congress during the last 4 years that could have stopped a bailout during Bush's term.
I'm tired of the blaming game. There are too many people involved to try and blame everyone and it isn't fair to blame just one person since so many were involved.
I'm generally a middle of the road kind of person and in saying that.....I just do not feel that this stimulus package will stimulate the economy and I don't believe it will create and sustain jobs either.
I also wish our current administration would take some time and make an effort to stop all of this offshoring as there are many Americans who would benefit from this as well.
Hold on. This has been going on for as long
as I can remember. DH had a friend who worked for GAO back in the 70s. He told us about it then. It's probably been going on earlier than that. So don't blame just one elected official.
You know, I'd really like to get a hold of the guys...sm
who sat and crunched the numbers and decided that it would be cheaper for their business to take American jobs and outsource them. Cheaper for who? If they would think this process out, and do the old school math instead of this fancy new math, they may have come up with a different answer.
Take for instance transcription:
Factor in hundreds to thousands of Americans losing their jobs to India, the newest craze in Transcriptionist outsourcing.
Factor in the loss of revenue from how much each of those transcriptionists can no longer spend and help keep the economy balanced, ESPECIALLY in such a recession now.
Factor in how little the government is going to issue out to these people who cannot find work so they can at least feed their family while they try to find something comparable to what they were doing. Factor in the few government grants that people can qualify for because they are now low income. Compare that to the millions they lost and are no longer contributing to the economy.
Factor in the cut backs because people have lost their jobs and can no longer afford health care, and now the hospitals can no longer afford the MTSOs and have to bring what work they do have back in-house.
Factor in now the MTSO that outsourced the work in the first place no longer has work available to outsource, thereby breeching contract, therefore having to pay huge fines, losing contracts left and right, and whoop, there goes another business under.
Oh who am I kidding, what do they care? They will just pay themselves a big bonus as they watch the company Titanic sink, and then AHDI and the lawyers will jump in and bail them out using the money that was skimmed from the employees who worked so hard for many years, just like the taxpayers!!??!! Man this country is messed up!
Hold on. Not all pubs, please.
I try to have decent conversations, but there are others that only want to get everyone fired up. Just keep having decent conversations. They'll go away sooner or later.
BTW, I'm a pub but usually always vote for "the best man". Of course, we all know there are any of those guys left in D.C. 
Just hold on here.....the woman was addicted....
addicts will do just about anything to get drugs. Murders are committed every day to get drugs. And it is not just the McCains who have pulled strings to avoid jail time. Although I need to research this before I talk much more about it.
Point being...this is not new in politics or any other walk of life. Are you saying she is somehow more responsible for her behavior while addicted than you would be or I would be, just because her husband is now running for President? And don't tell me if you had the means at your disposal to avoid jail and you were an addict that you would not use every one of them.
Are you holding her to the same standard you would hold yourself or a member of your family? If it were your mother or sister, and you had the means to help them avoid jail and get off the stuff, would you not do it?
I'm not ignoring Sally. She can hold her own,
meticlously discredit endless barrages of pub bash, misconceptions, misprentations and misinformation. I for one am preparing to bury the garbage under piles and piles of irrefutable fact by ensuring the focus stays on issues rather than personalities and that pub/NeoCon values are contrasted with O Vision in terms that will expose them for exactly what the pretend they are not...4 more years of same old poop without a change in sight. I suspect other O supporters know exactly what they are up against and what then need to be doing about it...and are doing it as we speak. For me, the quality of my life in the next 4 years depends ensuring Pub defeat in November and I am confident that other dems are similarly motived to do the same.
He was asked by the media to hold off on his...sm
press conference until they could get cameras to where he was and broadcast it live.
That is always how socialism takes hold....
promises, pretty speeches, and class warfare. How many posts have you seen here about "I am tired of the rich getting richer" and "we need someone to represent the middle class, not the rich" yada yada. It is already taking hold. And it NEVER works. All you end up with in socialism is all the money at the top (the government and cronies) and the rest of us at the bottom. The middle class DISAPPEARS. Look at venezuela...at Cuba...at the USSR before it broke up...and they will drag us all down the drain with them.
But mark my words...if it happens, won't be THEIR fault. Would be laughable if not so darned sad.
I wouldn't hold my breath. n/m
Why do pubs hold such anger toward
Your dark, dismal, gloomy world holds less than zero appeal. Times are changing...with or without you.
Wow! Thanks! According to your analysis there is no need to hold an election!
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I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Don't hold your breath waiting.
He already said that he can't do everything at once. "It may take a year, it may take 2 years, it may even take the first term to do it all, but it will be done".
I wouldn't hold your breath
He has no plans whatsoever to bring the troops home in 60-90 days. He is already saying they need to stay another 5 years. Not to mention all the other dangerous areas he plans to send them too once out of Iraq. Then once he gets the Civilian National Security up and running and the kids in college, etc trained they can be diverted too. Maybe he'll bring home the troops for a short LOA (leave of absence), but they will go right back.
Why do people think he needs to be president to break promises. He's already making decisions and he already has broken promises he made on his campaign trail (just to get the votes).
Broken promise #1. I will bring the troops home. - He's already said they will be there for at least the next five years. I read another article that said it won't happen until 2011, and that is from an agreement that Bush signed. So in 2011 even then Obama will not have brought them home, it will be because of Bush. If people had their minds and eyes open during the campaign they would have seen this as a clear trick to get the people to vote for him).
Broken promise 2. I will tax the rich. - He now is coming out and saying he will not tax the rich.
Broken promise 3. I will bring change to Washington. - And just how is he suppose to do that when his entire cabinet is being filled with old Clintonians. People are sick of the Bush's and Clinton's and he goes and drags back these #$%(* we were so happy to get rid of.
Broken promise 4. I will not have lobbyists in my administration. - Uh hellooooooo. There are at least 15 people in his cabinet who are lobbyists.
So, there are just 4 of his campaign promises he has broken. Has has picked his cabinet, and revealed his (no taxes for the rich) plan already and also the fact that he is not going to be bringing the troops home. Seeing as this is on camera and in writing you can say that he has broken his promises. Unless for some reason you think that on the day of his inaugeration he's going to tell all these people that he picked for his cabinet that it was only a joke and instead he's going to hire more capable people.
People are really questioning his ability to lead (and this is in other countries too), which clearly by his choices and decisions he has already made he is showing that he cannot. I just thank god Biden is in there.
Venezuela and Russia are going to hold
military manuevers near Venezuela.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,457106,00.html
We hold these truths to be self-evident
The weapons arsenals clearly tell the story of who the terrorists are. It's the occupation, stupid. There is no justifying it. The very idea that 21st century human beings would even THINK about trying to while the death toll approaches 700 vs 4, 50% of which are women and children with the portion of civilian men (fathers, sons, brothers, uncles, cousins and friends) and elders remaining undocumented, schools, markets, ambulance drivers and UN humanitarian workers being targeted, basic human services and infrastructure such as electricity, sewage disposal and roads destroyed in the middle of a press black-out and a land-and-sea blockade on all sides is positively SICKENING.
Hold on to your hats. I just heard that
the democrats are going to put on a medial blitz regarding the stimulus package. They supposedly are going to blame the republicans for not wanting to pass this package, stating they don't care about the American people. (Serously, I think the pubs care more than the dems-but that's just me.)
I kept hearing about "honey bees" in this package but couldn't find it. I was listening to CSpan today. The senators are debating the package. McCain stated we don't need to spend %150M on "honey bee insurance." What?
We don't need a water park, ATV trails, etc. These can be done later.
Also, he feels we should lower the income taxes immediately by 5%; i.e., if you pay 15%, you'd be paying 10%; if you pay 10%, you'd be paying 5%. It would only cost $275B to do this, but would get things moving again. I didn't see anything in the stimulus package about that either but, of course, I didn't finish reading it yet. Senator DeMint also wants the taxes lowered on individuals.
One senator from MD wants jobs brought back home.
They expect to vote on this package by Friday. Hopefully, they'll get all the crap taken out....which will probably take it back to 4 pages.
JTBB - are you ever going to hold him responsible
For things he is doing. If he's in there the next 50 years (god help us) are you still going to blame Bush. Obama promised things during his campaign. He has broken those promises. Now your saying it's not his fault? Lets blame the previous administration? For promises the O made and has broken? For going back on his word? It's the previous administrations fault???? He said he was not going to do certain things (re: Patriot Act) but now has changed his tune. Helloooooo. This is the O doing this. Has nothing to do with previous administration, but if your going to pull that little stunt, then you must blame the previous administration before that (B.C.) because GW inherited a lot of crap he had to deal with.
Hey, what kinda pansies hold their
tea party indoors?
whoa - hold on there - see message
I have been extremely busy these past couple weeks and hardly come here anymore, but I have read a lot of comments and take offense to this. I have seen plenty of intelligent conversations by both sides (and some no so intelligent - get it?). You seem to like to have divisions between one side and the other, and your comments will always be that the liberals are the "all knowing, intelligent ones" and then "them pubs". This country will never be united with thinking like that. Both sides have good and both sides have bad. But I'll bet a lot of people on this board are more in the middle and sick and tired of the elitist liberals and the uber-conservatives. Why can't people just have a good conversation without condescending messages like this?
You hold the corner market on derogatory
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Inmates got hold of the computers at the asylum again...nm
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Scaring them away? What, you can't hold debate with Republicans?
Ask the American people who they hold responsible.
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Why do all of a sudden want to hold leaders accountable?
wHat about Bill Clinton committing felony perjury? Having sex with an intern in the oval office? Where was the personal responsibility and who is holding him accountable? WHen are you going to drop the double standard and apply the same set of rules to everyone?
Ends justifies the means does not hold up
Not defending the trooper one way or the other since we kangaroo courts held in the media or in chat room forums are of not legal or official signficance. Prefer to wait for the ethics committee investigations to finish doing it's thing and review its findings before excusing SP for what appears to be abuse of power....an ethics violation by the ethics queen of Alaska.
Whoa - hold on - Don't shoot the messenger
As that saying goes "Don't shoot the messenger". I was just passing on an article I thought was interesting. I have no idea if it was from a conservative or liberal view point. If I find another article that goes opposite will be happy to pass that on too. I'm for neither and probably won't even vote this fall because I don't want to have the responsibility if the "bad one" is picked that I would have contributed. Just thought this point of view was interesting.
I hope you hold him to it if he gets elected. If Obama...sm
get elected, and I hope he does, I will hold his feet to the fire and make sure he lives up to his promises.
And a LARGE food-tray, to hold all those
:p
Part of the hold up is the republicans want to attach an...sm
amendment to the plan that would reduce the capital gains tax. What's up with that? I thought it was to be kept simple with no self interests tacked on.
It is the jobs of their constituents to hold them accountable...sm
and vote them out if they are not doing their job. You turn a deaf ear to anything the dems on this board have to say, only causing us to tune you out when you keep the broken record going.
Rubs already hold copyright on lockstep.
Did you find your magic 8 ball under the bed this morning?
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