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If ignorance is offensive, then yes. You do offend. nm

Posted By: Tara on 2007-12-29
In Reply to: What's the matter? - piglet




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    God will never offend me, but it wouldn't surprise me if you offend GOD.

    People who use God to lie and twist things to their liking are the people who offend me.


    The purpose of the site you posted is to bring people to Jesus Christ.  There is certainly nothing wrong with that.


    What IS wrong, however, is that the people they list as being *athiests* are people who don't follow their personal religious beliefs, and they are therefore *judged* to be athiests.  This doesn't make it true.  I asked you for facts.  You haven't provided any.  All you provided was slander.


    If anything, Phil Donahue respects God more than anyone on this laughable *athiest* site.  Phil Donahue has always taken to task those who feel their God is *better* than anyone else's, always pushed the envelope with the most radical and least credible of the religious fanatics who claim to have an *inside track* to God that nobody else has.  He's asked these so-called Christians if Jews are privileged to go to heaven to their way of thinking, or people of other religions.  Phil Donahue has exposed these people as being totally UN-Jesuslike in their hatred and condemnation of groups of society.  Phil Donahue BELIEVES in freedom of religion for everyone and doesn't buy into spiritual superiority. 


    THAT'S why you don't like him.  Trying to pass off this ridiculously slanderous site as being authentic shows who truly is uninformed on this board.


    Wouldn't say ignorance is bliss. Ignorance
    is the reason why we had Bush for 8 years, and ignorance is why people will vote PalinMc.
    Sorry so to offend, but thank you for the
    I think I might make that my new moniker.    It sounds better than the "Messiah" -- hope O doesn't try stealing it.
    Naw, I'm not easy to offend s/m
    I did change my mind though, if I have to eat that crow, could I have BBQ sauce instead of just plain ole salt and pepper???  LOL
    didnt mean to offend
    No not because of his middle name,but he himself said he is a Muslim on TV. Anyways, I dont have anything against him or he being a Muslim, I just said he is one as someone posted he isnt.
    Doesn't offend me at all
    I have no problem with someone calling Christianity a cult, but I do have a problem with someone calling all cults Chrisitainity, there is a difference. 
    So it's okay to offend Christians...
    And yet this putz bows to Muslims.

    Things that make you go 'hmmmm.'
    Sorry to offend you, but if the shoe fits...

    As I said, I am a normal woman, have three children, six grandchildren, and a husband who is a blue-collar worker.  As for stupid, this VP choice of McCain's is stupid.  Seriously, she has no credentials for being the leader of the USA in a time of war, in a time of major economical challenges.  Governor of Alaska?....mayor of a small town?....that's it?....  Why aren't you VP?  I am sure you have as much knowledge as she does.  She said she doesn't know anything about Iraq, although her son is going there, and said she doesn't know what a VP does.... Honestly, if I was governor of any state, I would not even ask "what does a VP do?"  I would go find out for myself.  Any drive to do her own investigating?  Any curiosity?  Do you seriously think she could be President of the US if something happens to John McCain?  America has far too many problems to gamble on a way too outside chance. 


    As for Obama's arrogance, that is something you heard and repeat like a mina bird.  Guess what?  There is arrogance in every one of these politicians, otherwise they would not be in the public eye.  I am constantly amazed at the stupidity of the American people, yes I am, and if that is arrogance, so be it.


     


    As for Obama being arrogant, that is something YOU heard and repeat.


    Maybe she does offend, but liberals constantly
    nm
    Pretty obvious he did not want to offend
    Muslims by being photographed standing in front of a Christian symbol.  No other US president has made any fuss about being associated with Christianity or its symbols.  But given the long-lasting nature of film, these pictures will live on long after.......
    Miss Thang, I imagine that you could offend
    nm
    No you are offensive
    You did not say a homosexual/heterosexual relationship. You called us homo's. That is offensive. And I could care less whether or not you approve of our lifestyle. I find your church-going backwards thinking offensive, and that my friend will never change. You impose your bible beliefs upon everyone else and expect that everyone should live like you do. You think we should just turn the "homo button" off and live just like you do. Were you around in the biblical times of Sodom and Gomorrah, I highly doubt it, so don't even proclaim of knowing what was or wasn't offensive back during that time.

    And the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah had nothing to do with homosexuality.

    "The greatest sin of the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah may have been their lack of hospitality towards guests visiting their city, and not sexual deviance"

    The truth about Sodom and Gomorrah -

    http://www.whosoever.org/v2i3/sodom.html


    Yep....that's just about as offensive...(sm)

    as insinuating people who don't believe are somehow second class citizens or that people who have different beliefs are not entitled to the same rights.  Don't you think it's a little ridiculous to actually threaten me with the wrath of God when I don't even believe in God?  Using religion and God as a threat (as the above poster did) is nothing but trying to bully the rest of us based on beliefs that don't hold water with us.


    I will, however, apologize to you and M if I offended you because I understand where you are coming from and respect that.  However, you should be aware that my father was the easter bunny ;)  I have a thing for colorful eggs and things that hop.


    Disagree. Ignorance is ignorance. n/m
    x
    I am sorry if my being pro life is offensive to you...
    however, I have not called any individual a profane and hateful name. Defend it if you like. Birds of a feather.
    Because I find it offensive
    I see the sam squad btch and complain when weary posters seek to ban her from the board when she is outnumbered, rally to her defense and smugly proclaim themselves conquering heroes and then turn right around and behave the same way toward the left-side version of sam. Of course, this is entirely predictable when considering that hypocrisy is inbred amongst the pubs. It is that genetic trait that I feel compelled to point out because it has much larger political implications relative to the broader issues that pubs spend so much time avoiding. In case you missed it the first time around, let me point out that this is not a whine, but rather an observation and criticism of hypocrisy and double standard that the pubs seek to promote as legitimate campaign rhetoric (NOT). It is that legitimate campaign rhetoric to which I now turn my attention.
    Not any more offensive than Obama using the...
    campaign plane and campaign dollars for personal business, when he is personally wealthy and could afford to pay his own way. She is not personally wealthy and there is no way to recoup jet fuel. At least the clothes can be donated to charity. Let's exhibit a little fairness here.
    THIS IS VULGAR AND OFFENSIVE
    x
    Exactly. Is 'hetero' offensive?
    x
    I won't even go into how offensive and wrong this statement is. sm
    and I mean wrong ethically, morally and spiritually. 
    I am sorry that you find the truth offensive....
    but it is the truth, nevertheless. This is on the Democratic website:

    Civil Rights & Justice
    Democrats are unwavering in our support of equal opportunity for all Americans. That's why we’ve worked to pass every one of our nation’s Civil Rights laws (not true) and every law that protects workers. Most recently, Democrats stood together to reauthorize the Voting Rights Act.

    On every civil rights issue, Democrats have led the fight (not true, in fact, quite the opposite). We support vigorous enforcement of existing laws, and remain committed to protecting fundamental civil rights in America.

    Sometimes a reminder is justified, as the DNC seems to have a lapse of memory concerning where the party once stood.

    Why not be honest? Why not say they have things in their past they are ashamed of (as all of us do), or just leave that part out? Why put an untruth on the website?

    You say one party was not responsible for causing it...no, NO "party" was responsible for causing it, but one party was responsible for keeping it in place until a civil war was fought, and even for 90 years AFTER that war conspired to keep African Americans from the vote. It happened, it is history, denying it does not change it. And they are still denying it, as you are, to this day.

    As to loving to argue that the Democrats voted for the war too...that is ONLY when people try to assert that President Bush alone was responsible for the war in Iraq. And if you will be fair, when you look at my posts, DW, I said Congress was responsible, BOTH sides. I never tried to say the Democrats alone were responsible.

    As to African Americans knowing what happened then...I doubt they do. And being human, you are right, in the grand scheme of things they care about the now, like most humans.

    However, it DID happen. And if you have to be offended, you should be offended at those in your party who, no matter WHEN they did it, at one point sought to enslave and then oppress African Americans. It happened. Be offended that they did it, not that someone posted it.

    Or do not be offended at all, own up to the fact it was done, admit that Republicans did a the right thing for the right reason at a time when this country sorely needed someone to do the right thing for the right reason.


    You clearly don't understand what offensive means
    Or maybe you are the original poster. I don't know and I don't care, but your statement enforces what I wrote. You are defending the poster and you clearly don't care that it offends people. And by the way, what in the world does bring Barack's middle name into the conversation have anything to do with the post. Yes, we all know his name is Hussein or maybe you like HUSSEIN. It's a beautiful name. It means "good, small handome one". Anyway, it was never mentioned in the original post, so my question is what is your motive for bringing it up, and if you bring Barack's middle name "Hussein" into the conversation why don't you bring in Joe's middle name "Robinette". This sounds like another scare tactic I would expect to come out of the McCain camp.

    Also, not sure I understand what John McCain and Kerry's wife have anything to do with each other. I know Kerry's wife's family is the Heinz ketchup people, but I don't know what John McCain has to do with that.

    So maybe instead of defending the poster (and sounding like a McCain supporter - I don't know you and you may not be, but when you defend the poster it sounds like you are), maybe you ought to think how people feel about such a dispicable comparison.

    By the way...this is a board where we can express our opinions so don't tell me if I don't like the subject get on with it and don't read it...maybe you should get on with it and stop trying to defend something so offensive.

    This mole hill would not have been made into a mountain if the original poster had simply written, I'm sorry it offended you and left it at that, but no, they had to defend themselves and start bashing me, and then others decided they would chime in.

    So I guess you don't know what offensive is and that what you may think is "freaky" or "funny" is offensive to other people. I'd say drop the conversation.
    No, what is offensive and vulgur is your continued
    moaning and harping and complaining.  Lighten up.  What we need is for you people to give something a little bit of a chance before you drown everything and everybody with your doom and gloom predictions.  I was merely suggesting something more constructive!
    The only thing that is vulgar and offensive
    is what you substituted for " ****** " in your own mind. Talk about projection.
    WOW, RACIST MUCH?! That's incredibly offensive. nm
    .
    Sign is clear, concise, and not offensive.
    This sign represents the feelings of many US citizens. As such, it belongs alongside all of the other religious displays at this time of year. Personally, I love it!
    BTDT. This is an equally offensive opportunity.
    x
    Calling everyone RELIGIOUS FREAKS is as offensive
    As me calling you a S L U T for your supposed 'rape.'

    Get over yourself. Too bad your mother supported your abortion, instead of having one of her own.
    your choice of words in this post is offensive
    What's next using the "f" word, and do you call African American's the "N" word.

    We all don't "have" a choice in whom we choose to love. You evidently do not understand what it is to be gay, and without any knowledge it would be better for you to not post at all because you are offensive in more than just this post. The others were bad enough but calling us homo is like calling a black person a "n_____".

    Rosa Parks could not change her color and gay people cannot change how they feel towards another human being. We don't have a "gay" button we can turn on and off.

    Enough with your disrespectful comments towards other people who don't agree with you and calling us slanderous names. If you can't control the words you choose maybe the moderator can.
    There are other choices. I find Obama and McCain equally offensive, so I am voting for Ralph Nader.
    Bob Barr might also be a good choice.
    Ignorance......
    Well, you certainly should not feel ignorant. The entire problem is lack of knowledge about what has really caused this. We do want to blame the corrupt business practices, but we should at least understand where it all comes from.....
    I have posted a complete explanation of the Federal Reserve below and I hope you take the time to watch it. It is 42 minutes long but this is why so many feel they don't understand the problem. This is in a nutshell the root of the problem and why we need to get away from paper money.

    I'll post the video site again. This should be taught in all classrooms in high school and again in college and they all should be made watch this to better understand.... taking the time to watch means better understanding and should mean outrage that we have gotten to this point and allowed our government to screw us over.......for decades and decades

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-466210540567002553
    Ignorance
    Look what has happened to this country in the last 8 years. If any of you can say honestly that you are better off, let's hear it. Otherwise, pin or no pin, hand across heart or not, we need a change. Not saying that either party would work miracles for this country is in shambles and it will take decades to have it back as it was before the W and his rich friends took everything away.
    your ignorance is showing...

    Your ignorance is showing...

    My disdain for you and your ignorance
    How DO you live with yourself? 
    Ignorance is bliss....
    ....as the saying goes, however, in the Obama posting above it's more like ignorance equals hatred and intolerance.  I personally think this country really really needs someone like Obama desperately.  We are, after all, a melting pot of races, cultures and religions, not a country run solely by rich white men with laws created to help the rich white men get even richer.
    It's ignorance like that -----that can really screw up
    I don't care if there what or who was in there as long as they are qualified, and qualified she is NOT
    Like I said.......... DESPERATION and ignorance
    nm
    Ignorance on a rampage.
    shove this where the sun don't shine
    There's only so much ignorance that a body can take
    nm
    Really? Well, your ignorance of thinking O has any
    nm
    my ignorance is showing!
    Can you tell me what is ACORN? And what are the voter fraud issues with it? Sorry, but I just don't know this stuff and trying to get informed. I found some conflicting info while trying to do some research and alot of stuff I didn't understand so can someone break it down to simple terms for me? Thanks.
    WOW - I guess ignorance IS
    not only bliss, but

    BLIND,

    DEAF,

    and incredibly DUMB.

    'Senator Obama was very cordial' while McCain had an 'evil grin.' Geeze, lady, maybe open BOTH eyes next time.

    Your idea that Obama is for the middle class because he's promising his BS ྛ% of Americans will get a tax break' is a delusion built on a lie.

    Why don't you take a minute to look it up? Or are you too busy polishing your Obama presidential seal commemorative plates?

    Under Obama's plan, about 43% of American taxpayers would get a ONE-TIME-ONLY tax REBATE of $500. (Less than the $900 Bush sent out this year.) And, get this, for the 42% of Americans who pay NO TAX AT ALL, Obama's going to give them a $500 check just for the heck of it. So you, sweetie, typing away at your desk, will be forking over part of your income tax to give a little gift to peolpe who sit on the fannies watching baby daddy dramas on the Maurie show and rolling their doobies on Welfare.

    I'd much rather have McCain's $5000 credit for buying my own health insurance, plus his higher child tax credit.

    It's a lie every time he calls this REBATE check a tax decrease. It's a lie counting the 42% of Americans who don't pay tax ANYWAY into the percentage of people who will pay less tax. You don't have to be a rocket scienctist to know that you can't pay less tax than ZERO.

    Maybe you want to fall for it. But don't pretend that you don't know your candidate is full of hot air.
    Ignorance is voting for someone you think? will help
    nm
    Are you kidding? Another example of ignorance. nm
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    Ignorance and bigotry are something to be
    .
    Is ignorance your only area
    rasberries
    You are so wrong ...another example of ignorance
    First of all, not one of Obama supporters has threatened to riot for not voting for him.  Secondly, Democrats have way too much class to act like mindless, bloodthirsty fools -- I believe you missed all the incidences of McCain supporters being worked up into the hate-mongering mobs that became so common at their rallies.  I personally have been saying for weeks that I was afraid of the backlash from the crazy fanatics blindly following McCain, and that I fully expected there to be some riots on that side of the fence.  Lastly, I do not personally know one Democrat (and I know a lot) who have defected to the other side, whereas, there have been many, many longtime, famous, staunch pubs who want to distance themselves from the cartoon characters that McCain and Palin have become.  I mean, you guys are the ones that just love, love, love your guns!!  You guys want to talk about ACORN, so stupid.  Have you not heard about McCain's bullies at the voting centers trying to intimidate people into not voting for Obama?  And let's not forget those Robo calls.  If it weren't so despicable, I could almost feel sorry for him . . . NOT!!
    Sometimes I'm appalled at the ignorance and
    .
    Sure seems to be a lot of ignorance around here today.
    x
    Speaking of ignorance....(sm)

    I just love it when people try to wallow around in righteous, indignant self pity.  If you're so concerned about the plight of the Jewish people, why don't you go and help out your grandmother? 


    Ask yourself this question.  Since Great Britian and the UN thought so highly of Jews as to actually declare them a separate nation, why didn't they create that nation in Europe?  My guess is that there were 2 reasons.  Number one would have to be the *not in my backyard phenomenon.*  The other was simply as a controlling interest in the region.  The reality is that Britian didn't give a rat's butt about the Jews.  They just picked the most susceptible minds (at the time) to carry out their plans.  They sold the idea of backing Isreal through religion and still do, just like the US does.  One big clue to this is exactly how much we actually back Israel.  We have brought them up to the level of nukes while they are still just fighting against homemade bombs.  We (the US) look the other way when Israel kills hundreds of Palestinians, but will run a prime time special if 2 (not 200, just 2) Israelis are killed.  Yeah, that's a fair fight.  We back other leaders in the middle east, but only to a point (Saddam for example).  Once they get to a point where they may actually become a threat to Israel (a holding interest for the west) we always manage to call them a threat for some other reason and level the playing field. 


    I really wish people would look at the big picture on this one.  From a political standpoint, Israel is nothing more than a bishop in a chess game.