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In other words, you can't. Thanks for trying. We have some lovely parting gifts for you.

Posted By: nm on 2009-04-16
In Reply to: "Official copies"? Try the copies your PD - have received... nm

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Bush parting gifts....(sm)

List of pardons and commutations thus far.  How many drug dealers has he now put back on the streets?  My personal favorites are the ones abusing food stamps.  I would say that's a big turnaround for a pub.  And before you guys start throwing a fit, yes Clinton pardoned some nice ones too.  I'm just keeping up with what's going on.


Pardons



  1. James Leon Adams (1965 selling firearms to out of state residents and falsifying firearms records)[6]
  2. Kristan Diane Bullock Akins (1990 Embezzlement by a bank employee)[7]
  3. Charles James Allen (1979 conspiracy to defraud the United States. A former federal employee, Allen was convicted for approving payments to James Hilles Associates Inc., a Virginia firm, for office supplies that were never delivered. In return, Allen received car parts, a radio, a freezer and other gifts from the firm. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
  4. William Thomas Alvis III (Possession of an unregistered firearm, distribution of cocaine)[8]
  5. John Allen Aregood a/k/a Johnny (Sonny) Aregood (Conspiracy to harbor and transport illegal aliens)[8]
  6. Tony Dale Ashworth (1989 unlawful transfer of a firearm)[6]
  7. Alan Dale Austin (1987 misapplication of mortgage funds)[9]
  8. William L. Baker (1980 falsifying records)[10]
  9. William Sidney Baldwin Sr. (1981 conspiracy to possess marijuana. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
  10. Timothy Evans Barfield (1989 aiding and abetting false statements on a Small Business Administration loan application. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
  11. Bruce Louis Bartos (1987 transportation of a machine gun in foreign commerce)[11]
  12. George Francis Bauckham (1958 unlawful detention or delay of the mail by a postal employee)[10]
  13. David Thomas Billmyer (1978 military conviction for making a false claim)[12]
  14. Eric Charles Blanke (Making impressions of obligations of the United States)[8]
  15. James Allen (Albert) Bodendieck, Sr. (1959 interstate transportation of a stolen vehicle)[13][14]
  16. Clyde Philip Boudreaux (1975 military conviction for borrowing money from enlisted men, accepting a noninterest-bearing loan from a government contractor and signing and swearing to a false affidavit. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
  17. Gene Armand Bridger (1963 Conspiracy to commit mail fraud, and mail fraud)[15]
  18. Marie Georgette Ginette Briere (1982 possession of cocaine with intent to distribute)
  19. Kenneth Charles Britt (1998 conspiracy to violate fish and wildlife laws)[10]
  20. Jeffrey James Bruce (1994 possession of stolen mail)[13]
  21. Charles Wayne Bryant (1962 theft of U.S. mail matter by employee)[13]
  22. William Bruce Butt (1990 bank embezzlement)[10]
  23. Mariano Garza Caballero (1984 dealing in firearms without a license)[10]
  24. Carl E. Cantrell (1967 moonshining)[16]
  25. Charles Winston Carter (1964 conspiracy to steal government property)[16]
  26. Meredith Elizabeth Casares (1989 embezzlement of US Postal Service funds)[17]
  27. Ronald William Cauley (1980 Misapplication of bank funds by an employee)[7]
  28. Steve Doyle Cavender (Conspiring to import, possess, distribute and dispense marijuana; importing and causing to be imported marijuana; possessing marijuana with intent to distribute)[8]
  29. Cathryn Iline Clasen-Gage (1992 Misprision of a felony)[15]
  30. Leslie Owen Collier (unauthorized use of a pesticide and violating the Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act)[2]
  31. Thomas Kimble Collinsworth (1989 Receipt of a stolen motor vehicle that had been transported in interstate commerce)[15]
  32. Charles Russell Cooper (1959 bootlegging) [9]
  33. Milton Kirk Cordes (conspiracy to violate the Lacey Act, prohibiting importation into the country of wildlife taken in violation of conservation laws)[2]
  34. Anthony John Curreri (1976 Mail fraud) [18]
  35. Morris F. Cranmer, Jr. (1988 Making materially false statements to a federally-insured institution)[15]
  36. Dale C. Critz, Jr. (1989 making a false statement)
  37. Richard Micheal Culpepper (making false statements to the federal government)[2]
  38. William Charles Davis (1983 income tax evasion)[12]
  39. Randall Leece Deal (1960 and 1964 liquor laws)[6]
  40. Brenda Jean Dolenz-Helmer (reporting or helping cover up a crime)[2]
  41. Paul Jude Donnici (September 23, 1993) Use of a telephone in the transmission of wagering information [19]
  42. William Henry Eagle (1972 moonshining)[6]
  43. Mark Alan Eberwine (1985 conspiracy to defraud the United States by impeding, impairing, and obstructing the assessment of taxes by the Internal Revenue Service and making false declarations to the grand jury. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
  44. Rusty Lawrence Elliott (1991 Making counterfeit Federal Reserve notes)[15]
  45. Marie Elena Eppens of Lynden, Wash. (conspiracy to distribute and to possess with intent to distribute marijuana)[8]
  46. Robert Carter Eversole (1984 theft)[6]
  47. Lydia Lee Ferguson of Sun City, Ariz. (conspiracy to distribute and to possess with intent to distribute marijuana)[8]
  48. Gerald Douglas Ficke (1992 money laundering)[17]
  49. Harper James Finucan (1980 marijuana possession with intent to distribute)[16]
  50. Kenneth Clifford Foner (1991 bank fraud)[6]
  51. Anthony Americo Franchi (1983 tax evasion)
  52. Colin Earl Francis (1993 accepting a kickback of about $9,000 for helping a vendor for United Technologies Corp.'s Sikorsky Aircraft division, where Francis worked at the time, land a contract. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
  53. Victoria Diane Frost (1994 conspiracy to possess)[6]
  54. William Grover Frye (1968 AWOL and 1973 sale of stolen car)[6]
  55. Joseph Daniel Gavin (1979 military insubordination, drunkenness, threats, and other offenses) [9]
  56. George Glenn (1956 accepting $50 bribe while in military)
  57. Eduviges Duvi Gonzalez-Matsumura of Clovis, Calif. (aiding and abetting embezzlement of bank funds)[8]
  58. George Clarence Greene Jr. (Mail fraud)[8]
  59. Samuel Wattie Guerry (1984 food stamp fraud)[19]
  60. Adam Wade Graham (1992 Conspiracy to deliver 10 or more grams of LSD)[15]
  61. Charles E. Hamilton (1989 mail fraud)[19]
  62. Stanley Bernard Hamilton 1990 (money order fraud)[6]
  63. Brianna Lea Haney (1991 failure to report monetary instruments)[11]
  64. Andrew Foster Harley (wrongful use and distribution of marijuana and cocaine)[2]
  65. George Thomas Harley (1984 aiding and abetting the distribution of cocaine. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
  66. Rufus Edward Harris (1963 Possession and selling tax-unpaid whiskey)[15]
  67. Jesse Ray Harvey (1990 Property damage by use of explosives and destruction of an energy facility)[15]
  68. David Custer Heaston (1988 false statement)[11]
  69. Melodie Jean Hebert (1984 defrauding U.S. with false claims)[6]
  70. Obie Gene Helton (unauthorized acquisition of food stamps)[2]
  71. Carey C. Hice Sr. (income tax evasion)[2]
  72. Geneva Yvonne Hogg (bank embezzlement)[2]
  73. Patricia Ann Hultman (1985 conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute and to distribute cocaine and other controlled substances. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
  74. James Won Hee Kang a/k/a Won Hee Kang (Trafficking in counterfeit goods)[8]
  75. Bobby Frank Kay Sr. (1959 operation of an illegal distillery)[16]
  76. James Ernest Kinard, Jr. (1984 fraudulent firearms dealer records)[6]
  77. Richard Ardell Krueger (1979 mail fraud and 1980 and false statement on a loan application)[12]
  78. Devin Timothy Kruse (1979 AWOL from Coast Guard)[6]
  79. Margaret Ann Leggett (1981 false claims)
  80. Raul Marin (1982 failure to appear in court) [9]
  81. Larry Paul Lenius (1989 Conspiracy to distribute cocaine)[15]
  82. Larry Lee Lopez (1985 Conspiracy to import marijuana)[15]
  83. Alan Stephen Maiss (Misprision of a felony)[8]
  84. Bobbie Archie Maxwell (1962 Mailing a threatening letter)[15]
  85. David B. McCall, Jr. (1997 False entry in bank books and aiding and abetting)[20]
  86. William Hoyle McCright Jr. (making false entries, books, reports or statements to a bank)[2]
  87. Paul Julian McCurdy (misapplication of bank funds)[2]
  88. Melvin L. McKee (1982 conspiracy to make false statements on a loan application)[16]
  89. Charles McKinley, (1950 moonshining)[16]
  90. Michael Mark McLaughlin (1983 mail fraud and conspiracy)[12]
  91. Craven Wilford McLemore (1983 Conspiracy to defraud the United States and Caddo County) [18]
  92. Denise Bitters Mendelkow (1981 Embezzlement by a bank employee)[15]
  93. Richard Harold Miller (Conspiracy to defraud the United States)[8]
  94. Michael Robert Moelter (1988 illegal gambling business)[11]
  95. Robert Earl Mohon Jr. (conspiracy to distribute marijuana)[2]
  96. Billie Curtis Moore (1977 income tax evasion)[12]
  97. Ronald Alan Mohrhoff (unlawful use of a telephone in a narcotics felony)[2]
  98. Richard Arthur Morse (1963 transportation of a stolen vehicle)[17]
  99. Gerard Murphy (1972 car theft)[6]
  100. Kenneth Lynn Norris (1993 unlawful disposal of hazardous waste)[19]
  101. Delano Abraham Nixon (Forging the endorsement on a U.S. Treasury check)[8]
  102. Joseph Mathew Novak (1994 possession and transfer of an illegal weapon)[6]
  103. Eric William Olson (1984 military conviction for conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute, possession with intent to distribute, possession, and use of hashish. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
  104. Glanus Terrell Osborne (1990 possessing a stolen motor vehicle)[14]
  105. John H. Overholt (Concealment of information affecting Social Security benefits)[8]
  106. Morris Keith Parker (Misprision of a felony)[8]
  107. Donald Lee Pendergrass (1964 armed bank robbery)[16]
  108. Fred Dale Pitzer (1976 transportation of falsely made securities)[17]
  109. Charles Blurford Power (1948 transportation of a stolen vehicle)[16]
  110. Michael John Pozorski (1988 Unlawful possession of an unregistered firearm)[15]
  111. Daniel Figh Pue III (illegal treatment, storage and disposal of a hazardous waste without a permit)[2]
  112. Robert Truman Reece (Unauthorized absence,missing ship's movement)[8]
  113. Thomas R. Reece (1969 violating the Internal Revenue Code pertaining to alcohol. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
  114. James Edward Reed (1975 marijuana possession with intent to distribute)[12]
  115. Cecil John Rhodes (1981 false statement on a loan application)[17]
  116. John Louis Ribando (1976 and 1978 marijuana dealing)[6]
  117. Donald Edward Roessler (Embezzlement of mail matter)[8]
  118. Larry Gene Ross (1989 making false statements in a bank loan application. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
  119. Ernest Rudnet (1992 conspiracy to file false tax returns) [9]
  120. Gary L. Saltzburg (1995 theft of government property) [9]
  121. John Gregory Schillace (1988 conspiracy to possess cocaine for distribution)[16]
  122. Russell Don Sell (1995 aiding and abetting a false statement on a loan application)[17]
  123. Scott LaVerne Sparks (1989 theft of government property)[12]
  124. Wendy St. Charles (1984 conspiracy to trade narcotics and cocaine distribution)[16]
  125. David Lloyd St. Croix (1989 disposal of stolen explosives)[9]
  126. Jearld David Swanner (1991 making false statements in a bank loan application. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
  127. James Walter Taylor (1991 bank fraud. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
  128. Johnson Heyward Tisdale (1994 food stamp fraud)[19]
  129. Issac Robert Toussie (False statements to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, mail fraud)(Revoked a day later)[8]
  130. Edward Rodriguez Trevino, Jr. (1997 theft, convicted in military court)[6]
  131. Janet Theone Upton (1975 mail fraud. pardoned December 21, 2006)
  132. Orion Lynn Vick (aiding and abetting the theft of government property)[2]
  133. Jerry Dean Walker (1989 cocaine distribution)[6]
  134. Joseph William Warner (1995 arson on an Indian reservation)[9]
  135. Mark Lewis Weber (1981 Selling Quaalude tablets, selling, using, and possessing marijuana )[15]
  136. Roger Charles Weber (1969 Theft from an interstate shipment)[7]
  137. David Lane Woolsey (Aiding and abetting violation of the Archaeological Resources Protection Act)[8]

Issac Robert Toussie (False statements to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, mail fraud) George W. Bush has revoked his pardon after discovering Issac Robert Toussie's father donated USD $28,500 to the Republican Party in April.[21]



[edit] Commutations



  1. Anthony C. Foglio aka Tony Foley (1996 distributing marijuana)[10]
  2. Marvin Robert Foster (1968 making a false statement in connection with a Federal Housing Administration loan)[10]
  3. Carl Harry Hachmeister (1985 conspiracy to commit wire and mail fraud)[10]
  4. William Marcus McDonald (1984 Air Force court-martial for cocaine and marijuana charges)[10]
  5. Robert Michael Milroy (1975 heroin importation)[10]
  6. Jerry Lynn Moldenhauer (1994 selling migratory bird parts in violation of the Migratory Bird Treaty Act)[10]
  7. Thomas Donald Moldenhauer (1994 selling migratory bird parts in violation of the Migratory Bird Treaty Act)[10]
  8. Richard James Putney (1996 aiding and abetting the escape of a prisoner)[10]
  9. Timothy Alfred Thone (1987 making a false statement to the Department of Housing and Urban Development to obtain a mortgage)[10]
  10. Lonnie Edward Two Eagle Sr. (1976 misdemeanor simple assault on an Indian reservation)[10]
  11. Jimmy Lee Williams (1995 false statements on a loan application)[16]
  12. William Charles Jordan Jr. (1997 conspiracy to gamble regarding football)[14]
  13. Jeffrey James Bruce (1994 possessing stolen mail)[14]
  14. Jackie Ray Clayborn (1993 marijuana charges)[14]
  15. John Fornaby (1991 conspiring to distribute cocaine)[14]
  16. Melton Harrell (1976 stealing government property)[14]
  17. Saul Kaplan (1992 violating the Federal Election Campaign Act)[14]
  18. John F. McDermott (1995 receiving kickbacks in defense procurement contracts)[14]
  19. William James Norman (1970 moonshining)[14]
  20. Gordon Allen Brown (1979 stealing government property) [14]
  21. John Forté (possession with intent to distribute cocaine and conspiracy to distribute)[22]
  22. Leslie Owen Collier of Charleston, Mo. He was convicted for unauthorized use of a pesticide and violating the Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act.
  23. Milton Kirk Cordes of Rapid City, S.D. Cordes was convicted of conspiracy to violate the Lacey Act, which prohibits importation into the country of wildlife taken in violation of conservation laws.
  24. Richard Micheal Culpepper of Mahomet, Ill., who was convicted of making false statements to the federal government.
  25. Brenda Jean Dolenz-Helmer of Fort Worth, Texas, for reporting or helping cover up a crime.
  26. Andrew Foster Harley of Falls Church, Va. Harley was convicted of wrongful use and distribution of marijuana and cocaine.
  27. Obie Gene Helton of Rossville, Ga., whose offense was unauthorized acquisition of food stamps.
  28. Carey C. Hice Sr. of Travelers Rest, S.C., who was convicted of income tax evasion.
  29. Geneva Yvonne Hogg of Jacksonville, Fla., convicted of bank embezzlement.
  30. William Hoyle McCright Jr. of Midland, Texas, who was sentenced for making false entries, books, reports or statements to a bank.
  31. Paul Julian McCurdy of Sulphur, Okla., who was sentenced for misapplication of bank funds.
  32. Robert Earl Mohon Jr. of Grant, Ala., who was convicted of conspiracy to distribute marijuana.
  33. Ronald Alan Mohrhoff of Los Angeles, who was convicted for unlawful use of a telephone in a narcotics felony.
  34. Reed Raymond Prior of Des Moines, Iowa who was sentenced for possession of methamphetamine with intent to distribute.[8]
  35. Daniel Figh Pue III of Conroe, Texas, convicted of illegal treatment, storage and disposal of a hazardous waste without a permit.
  36. Orion Lynn Vick of White Hall, Ark., who was convicted of aiding and abetting the theft of government property
May I say, in parting, that you are an idiot. sm
You, gt, and Observor are the three stooges.  You are so full of hatred that it controls everything you think and say. If you are countered or called to task for incorrect statements, you simply change the subject.  You lack of knowledge as well as your extremeism, most especially in having no boundaries to how low you will go to make a point, make you not worth debating. Several of us have tried.  You should be left to your own devices.
gifts
Michelle spoke at a women's group meeting of some sort way before the election and said that they prefer to spend money on experiences for the girls, like camps, sleepovers, stuff like that.  If you Google Michelle's speeches you may find it. 
Don't have to be Muslim to not give gifts -
My boss is a practicing Christian in a Southern Baptist church and she does not give Christmas presents. She does celebrate Christmas, but she says it is about love and family and celebrating Christ - and on top of that (in her words), it is Jesus's birthday and he is the only one that deserves presents on his birthday...
But why is scrutinizing how he gifts his wife and chldren, with his own money, anyone's business.
I can see scrutinizing his speeches, his proposals, his statements, his appointments. foreign and domestic policies, etc., but even a President deserves a personal life with his family.
Lovely
hate, hate, hate is all you speak.
Yes. Just lovely.

Why don't we just cut out the middle man and directly hand over the USA to bin Laden on a silver platter?


As Bush is famous for saying, If you're not with us, you're against us.  It's become obvious Bush is now against us.


Another old saying holds particularly true in this case:  Money is the root of all evil.


The UAE now claims to be loyal to us.  Has it ever occurred to you that there are people in this world with such strict, maniacal religious convictions that they would lie, deceive, steal, kill or commit any other sin in order to advance those convictions?  You need look no further than the good ole' USA (or even these boards) to find that!


Is American security REALLY worth taking that kind of chance with?


Good grief!  Wake UP, people! 


http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/22/bin-laden-uae-royals/

Have a lovely day.

Isn't it lovely????
x
WOW! Lovely.
She's a lovely lady, all right. She wears clothes very well.
It sounds lovely...buh-bye now!
:)
What about the lovely people at Air America?

However, I guess you think they're just people spouting an opposing view.  If your theory about number doctoring is remotely true then why can't somebody doctor the numbers for Air America?  Of course, the liberals probably think there is a conspiracy against them (like they do everything else), so I won't waste my breath arguing that what you think is hate and strong language is actually people who are fed up with the ideology that is far left wing liberalism.  There are very few far left liberal citzens in America. Of there are regions where it's problem but most people are in the middle of the two extremes.  Most people believe in traditional American values and actually love their country and mostly trust government.  Both extremes don't trust their government at all.  There is a difference between trust and blind trust.  To blindly trust anyone is foolhardy, but to be so paranoid of any person in power who doesn't share your entire ideology is little on the derranged side.  I'm not saying anyone who doesn't support GWB is derranged. I'm just saying there are some extreme wackos out there who are obsessed with this president and believe he's the incarnation of Satan which is not true.


Anyway, I don't think you can dismiss the popular media outlets in this country.  What's popular is popular for a reason, and just because some of us feel that Fox News is more balanced and tune into Rush Limbaugh from noon to three doesn't make us haters.

Lovely piece of garbage.
Thanks for the confirmation. Here ladies and gentlemen is a classic example of bureaucratic professional. Where does it show that he has military experience, field experience? In essence by placing this post, you're saying that because he is highly educated (and that doesn't necessarily transpose to the highly intelligent), afforded certain posts in government, that is all that is required to take over and manage a country under insurgency? Hum....

So Armitage's principles weren't good enough for you?

Of course you take things at face value. I don't think you have asked a valid question yet. If you didn't take things at face value, I believe you would have more questions. But it seems that all you have are answers. Another hum....Perhaps, it is just a matter of who's face you're looking at isn't it?

Now, you go and have a nice day!
But such a lovely blue folder!
What a bunch of whack jobs those Republicans are! I hear that there was a lovely picture of a windmill in the folder but no numbers. Now that's the kind of budget the Republicans can vote for!

Maybe the final Republican budget will be done as a pictorial, so their base can understand it without every having been taught to read.
How could I forget?? lol. The lovely Randi Rhodes...
Randi Rhodes...Ann Coulter...pot...kettle...pot kettle....
Retards. Well aren't you a lovely person...
and those poor ole Mormons managed to sway over half your state? No offense, but what does that say about half your state? You don't think they really believed in what they were voting for, or those nasty ole mormons mesmerized them? What exactly ARE you saying? lol
Those types of words are unnecessary and actually ARE racist words. sm
Those types of phrases are offensive and are intended to be offensive. This election should not be about race. If it is about race for you, then you are probably one of the ignorant people using those words. Very rude!!
Dubai is lovely. I lived there. I have no idea what you are talking about! sm
When were you there?   It had to have been a long long time ago because you are not describing the Dubai I know!
You're right....words are just words...so are Obama's...
...and don't/won't mean anything to many people, myself included.

He is no MLK.

It is a historic moment, of that I have no doubt. And yes, he has come far.

However, one still needs to have strength of character to back the words up for true meaning, and he is sadly lacking in that area.

Nothing but words hon, and we know how Obama's words
nm
Just a few words
For you to even think something like that shows you have it in your brain.  I would never post some of the derogatory posts you and your friends from the conservative board have posted to me and to others.  Does it bother you that much that I post strong opinions and refuse to be cowed by nasty responses?  I have thick skin and I can roll with the punches.  Seems to me every time I post you and your friends just have to respond, no matter what I post.  By you responding so forcefully shows you are threatened by my ideology and the bigger picture, the liberal/democratic ideology.  Be happy with your beliefs and espouse them but stop attacking people for their beliefs..In other words, chill out..you will do your heart a favor.  This is a free country, my opinions are mine and I will continue to have them.  Nothing you say will change my beliefs..so dont waste your time trying..I also must say, if you want to talk about people sounding like lunatics, re-read some of the conservative posts.  A few profess to never attack or call names, yeah right, there is so much back biting and name calling on that board..but hey, its fair game when you are dealing with politics.  they are all just words, nothing more.  My bigger quest is to help turn this country around to the country I knew and loved through grass roots politics, belonging to the local democratic party and making sure the right ones get in mid year elections and in three years.  This is just a politics board, LOL, nothing that gets my blood pressure elevated, that is for sure..The majority of Americans feel we are headed down the wrong track and our priorities are wrong.  The latest poll shows the people losing faith and trust in Bush and his credibility is going down.  The majority think Iraq was a mistake and worry that attacking Iraq made us less secure and more prone to attacks.  Seems to me my opinions and those of most that post on the liberal board (save for the few conservatives who post here to attack and disrupt) are in the mainstream of American thought, fears and concerns. Now, I would hope the attacks will stop, as I will not respond to them anymore.  If you want to debate, post the debate and Im sure many will join in but no one wants to be part of a board where crazy accusations such as you and yours have been posting about me keep getting posted.
Yes, among other words. NM
These were your words.

Still on this board!!!  Tell me how what you said below is the same as:


As far as Iraq, of course, you twisted that all out of context.  Lurker asked if I would go to Iraq to help rebuild and I said yes, if I could I would, but please don't tell the truth and continue to twist because you are twisted.


Yes, I will join. I was there once, I will go again. No problem at all. NM




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Posted By: MT on 2005-08-24,
In Reply to: Ridiculous...I think not - Lurker

There are no words, only
thoughts and prayers. I am so very sorry.
HER words (yet again):

Yes, I will join. I was there once, I will go again. No problem at all.


Not *would* join.... WILL JOIN.  WILL GO AGAIN.  WILL, WILL, WILL, WILL, WILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Those who believe in telling the truth can easily see the distortion.

The key words are

*announced* and *Bin Laden.*


Clinton announced to AMERICANS that he was specifically targeting Bin Laden.  Remember him?  HE was the guy responsible for 9/11, and HE is the guy that Bush ignored to instead invade Iraq.


Clinton wasn't targeting average Americans who are trying to pay off their J. C. Penney bills, and Clinton never used intimidating tactics towards American citizens.


Bush doesn't know how to do anything BUT use secrets, intimidation and fear tactics.

Words
Please don't put words in my mouth. I never said I would choose to have an abortion, or choose to end life (which to me, are still 2 different things). I said that I believe in choice.
I have two words for you. SM
Walid Shoebat.  I am willing to bet he knows way more than your professor about the Middle East and he doesn't agree with either one of you.
Wow! In her own words no less. I do not want any
.
Two words
There is a word spelled choose and a word spelled chose. They certainly are confused a lot these days.

Choose is present tense and chose is past tense. They are pronounced differently.

I'm not picking on the poster; just making a general observation about a term many people misuse.
what a way with words . . .

guffaw.


 

WOW, you use BIG words, just like O!
I am so happy for you!
In their own words

Shocking Video Unearthed Democrats in their own words Covering up the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac Scam that caused our Economic Crisis


I'd love to know why I should have to bail out anyone.  If my husband and I overextended ourselves and spent like drunken sailors we'd have nobody to blame but ourselves.  So in that same concept we should turn to someone and essentially hand the bill for it over to him/her?


Also, as a Texan, we'll now be on the hook for billions (per the radio) from Ike.  My husband and I don't HAVE a billion here, a billion there.  They throw around million, billion, and trillion like it's petty cash!

In your own words. sm
The middle class disappears...money at the very top, and that's it. The middle class and the lower class become the same. Can you not see that is what has happened already in America?
your words
"and this notion that the democrats ruined everything since they took over - excuse me, we are not supposed to have 1 party in total power, remember that one? when you get all sides represented and respected, you have more freedom." Those are your words. What do you think we will have if Obama wins?? A democrat for president and a democratic congress. That would be one party in power, and that is not a pretty picture at all.
In other words........... sm
everything except his experience.

He was not addressing all the issues you listed in the video. Did you even WATCH it?
Yes, he might have known the words, but
But, you are supposed to repeat the oath given to you,word for word, and this would have been the "wrong" oath, so the justice had to correct himself, so the right oath was administered.
Do the words......(sm)
great depression and new deal ring a bell?  I guess Econ 101 was too much for ya, so let's go back to high school American history. 
In other words....(sm)

there are no facts to support your claim.  You guys just spout out anything...LOL.

In other words....(sm)
They don't want to admit that they get their info from Fox.  They seem to be very anxious to spread all the crap that Fox comes up with, but when they are confronted to show facts they seem to be embarrassed about their source (assuming there is one)......Hmmmm...
So in other words
UAW = good.  Insurance companies = bad?
The key words here are.............. sm
OPPORTUNITY versus REQUIREMENT.

I will use you as an example since you have said that you and your husband were married before a JP.

You have, in your scenario, met the qualifications of being able to have the benefits of marriage in terms of taxes, etc. You have the OPPORTUNITY to be married in a religious ceremoy if you so choose (which will be highly unlikely given that you and your husband are both atheists).

Conversely, my husband and I who were married in a religious ceremony would be REQUIRED to obtain a union in order to have the same benefits that you and your husband hold.
Thank you for the kind words.

I agree with everything you said.


I think that lumping people together and making gross inaccurate generalizations does nothing but prevent any intelligent discourse from occurring, and that's very sad because these issues are very serious.  Our very ability to keep BREATHING may be in jeopardy, particularly if we don't start concentrating on our own safety. Bush  has made Iraq much less safe place to be, and he hasn't done much to make the United States a safe place to be.  If we truly NEED our military someday to protect US in a homeland attack, where will they all be?


What also worries me is that our enemies might consider this a bilateral "religious" war.  They already believe it is, yelling and effecting "Jihad."  But the current focus on one particular brand of Christianity in this country -- not religion in general, but one particular BRAND of Christianity -- makes me wonder if Bush himself doesn't think this is a religious war.  The fact that he might think so is what scares me the most, as history tell us they are the most deadly, bloody wars of all. I personally don't want the U.S. to be known as a "Christian" nation.  One of the things I love the most about this country is the freedom that we're SUPPOSED to have to worship freely, and I will personally oppose anyone who tries to take that away from us.    


It's sad that tolerance and respect aren't in more people's hearts and souls. 

So in other words, God offends you.
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They were just using one of your favorite words
or do you own the copyright of the word liar?
Your exact words....
(quote)Believe me, If Scarborough is upset with Bush, there's a reason.  He's always supported Bush.(unquote) 
Actions vs words.
Bush cannot recommend a constitutional amendment defining marriage as taking place between a man and a woman without a healthy respect for the Constitution itself. One does not merely walk into Iraq on the basis of a **** piece of paper.  This story is a year and a half old.  The publication who broke this story is about as far left as one can get. If the reputable publications from both sides of the fence felt it was a real story, they would have certainly run with it.  They didn't. That' s my take on it after examining it. 
Yes, they are very fine words..
 written by some very fine minds. Ghandi says much the same. I think I'll stick with the great minds. Cat bites and scratches dangerous ?...sometimes...people who mistreat animals or wish them harm dangerous ?...always. 
Those are really fine words.
However, if the cat is harming human life, and everyone knows how toxic a cat scratch or bite can be, and the owner refuses to maintain her animal, what is the solution?  Maybe a new home. 
Words of this century...sm
Stay the course.
It's hard work.
Liberate the Iraqis.
I'm a patriot (and you're not).

Did I mention *it's hard work, staying the course to liberate the Iraqis because I'm a patriot (and you're not).*

Any ring to those words? Boy, if Peewee were still in the playhouse now.

Anywho, the point is and you said it yourself, Fox is a conservative leaning network. And the liberal guests can debate, you may feel they can't because they are double teamed by the anchor/pundit and the conservative guests.
You know my game? You don't even know your own words.

I responded directly to your post and quoted your own name calling words, but you don't know what I'm talking about?!
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