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It is all about timing and the fact that there was a pet chimp shot by the police the other day.

Posted By: sm on 2009-02-19
In Reply to: Make fun of Obama all you want...I ain't married to the guy. sm - truthbetold

Give it a rest.


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Trained chimp? Hardly. But chimp, definitely. nm
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chimp
you are when it comes to dealing with the chimp boy in the WH.
chimp boy
But he does look like a chimp, LOL, with those pointy ears and all..
Chimpie? I know him as Chimp Boy, but
to each his own.  He still smells as sweet.
Timing? sm
When is a good time to discuss the war and how we as Americans feel about it?
Wow. What timing!
I have my TV on, and as I was reading the last sentence of your post, the question was asked about Bush's opinion regarding the 400-some Palestine casualties, and the answer was that he prefers to concentrate on the 4 Israeli casualties.
Because of the timing
just prior to the tea parties.  The report brands 'disaffected' parties (participants in the protests, among others) as potentially dangerous.  Obviously those participating in the protests were to be scrutinized.
I'm sorry to hear that...and sad timing (sm)
If he wins it will make him less happy than he would have been. My prayers are with him and his family.
You really disqualify yourself as a serious debater when you resort to the chimp
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The Commander in Chimp's base is hopeless...sm
I saw one post on Alternet earlier today which stated that if 911 were an inside job, that Bush probably had to sacrifice for the greater good.

Has anyone seen this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whhbPVrb5KM

US, UK at odds over timing of arrests
Source: U.S., U.K. at odds over timing of arrests

British wanted to continue surveillance on terror suspects, official says

By Aram Roston, Lisa Myers, and the NBC News Investigative Unit

NBC News



Updated: 6:13 p.m. MT Aug 12, 2006




LONDON - NBC News has learned that U.S. and British authorities had a significant disagreement over when to move in on the suspects in the alleged plot to bring down trans-Atlantic airliners bound for the United States.


A senior British official knowledgeable about the case said British police were planning to continue to run surveillance for at least another week to try to obtain more evidence, while American officials pressured them to arrest the suspects sooner. The official spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the case.


In contrast to previous reports, the official suggested an attack was not imminent, saying the suspects had not yet purchased any airline tickets. In fact, some did not even have passports.


The source did say, however, that police believe one U.K.-based suspect was ready to conduct a dry run. British authorities had wanted to let him go forward with part of the plan, but the Americans balked.


At the White House, a top aide to President Bush denied the account.


There was unprecedented cooperation and coordination between the U.S., the U.K. and Pakistani officials throughout the case, said Frances Townsend, Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism, and we worked together to protect our citizens from harm while ensuring that we gathered as much info as possible to bring the plotters to justice. There was no disagreement between U.S. and U.K. officials.


Another U.S. official, however, acknowledges there was disagreement over timing. Analysts say that in recent years, American security officials have become edgier than the British in such cases because of missed opportunities leading up to 9/11.


Aside from the timing issue, there was excellent cooperation between the British and the Americans, officials told NBC.


The British official said the Americans also argued over the timing of the arrest of suspected ringleader Rashid Rauf in Pakistan, warning that if he was not taken into custody immediately, the U.S. would render him or pressure the Pakistani government to arrest him.


British security was concerned that Rauf be taken into custody in circumstances where there was due process, according to the official, so that he could be tried in British courts. Ultimately, this official says, Rauf was arrested over the objections of the British.


The official shed light on other aspects of the case, saying that while the investigation into the bombing plot began months ago, some suspects were known to the security services even before the London subway bombings last year.


He acknowledged that authorities had conducted electronic and e-mail surveillance as well as physical surveillance of the suspects.


Monitoring of Rauf, in particular, apparently played a critical role, revealing that the plotters had tested the explosive liquid mixture they planned to use at a location outside Britain. NBC News has previously reported that the explosive mixture was tested in Pakistan. The source said the suspects in Britain had obtained at least some of the materials for the explosive but had not yet actually prepared or mixed it.


© 2006 MSNBC Interactive



URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14320452/


Definition of impeccable timing
Going to visit his poor sick grandmother whom he cherished so much and having his bc sealed by the state for no one to see at the same time.

BTW - He didn't have the decency to bring his wife and kids to see his precious granny. Priceless!
Um, I didn't say this was about Obama. It's about timing.

Israel knows the Bush admin supports them.  They know Obama does not.  It doesn't take a genius to deduct that if they are planning any kind of attack, they would want to do it while they have the support of the U.S.  Of course there are many other factors leading up to this attack, but the timing is significant in that they are squeezing it in just before they lose the support of the U.S.


I am interested to see when Obama is going ring in on this and what side he's going to land on.  The future of our nation will be significantly affected by our support of Israel.  Obama will be tested as soon as he takes the oath.  And he is going to fail.  I'll say it again, like I said back in November --- MARK MY WORDS!


FYI, The Palestinians are squatters.  The land has always belonged to the Israelis.  They will never win.  This is a battle that has been waging for centuries and Israel always prevails. 


The fact that an article was written does not make it fact. I hope you know that. nm
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Yah ha! rim shot!

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Yep...there's the shot across the bow.
We'll see how Prez Obama responds to that one.
That's why should take our best shot rather than
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They're trying to help but they being SHOT AT
for crying out loud...who shoots at their rescuers!! The people in New Orleans is what is making it so difficult, and the fact the roads are not passable in and out. Come on people. THINK!! They build a city in bowl below sea level. They were told for decades this was going to happen. This is a much more complex situation than just one person can be responsible for.
Let me take one shot at clarifying...

what I am talking about regarding illegal immigration, and what I view this country to be.  I do not now, nor have I ever said one word about wanting a "pure race."  I have said over and over, America is a country of immigrants.  A country of immigrants coming here who wanted change from their native countries.  Immigrants who became UNITED under one flag, one creed, one constitution, one set of laws.  The UNITED States of America.  The thread that bound us all together...Americans.  And the trend is away from that now.  Illegal immigrants want to come here and change America to Mexican America...or Muslim America...or, or, or.  To change what we are, the ideals we were founded on.  In my mind, if you make a conscious decision to leave your own country and come to this one seeking to change your citizenship, then you embrace this country, her laws, her ideals, etc.  That does not mean a person cannot be proud of individual heritage.  I am proud of my Irish, Native American, Swedish ancestry and can some of it back to the 15th century.  But I am not a Native Swedish Irish American.  I am an American with a mixed heritage, and I am an American first, and I don't frankly see anything wrong with that.  It is in that that we used to be UNITED and is what made us strong.  If we start to separate we might as well set up borders and call part of us Native America, part of us Africa America, part of us Mexico America....because we are not united anymore.  I even had the word "secession" thrown at me, which is ridiculous on the face of it.  I never said such a thing nor would I sanction such a thing, because I believe in the UNITED States of America.


At any rate, to set the record straight:  I do not ascribe to a "pure" race.  I object vehemently to illegal immigration.  I support legal immigration to the hilt.  However, I do believe that immigrants are making a choice when they leave their native land and come here...a choice to become an American, and if that is not their choice, then they need to stay in their country of origin and try to make it more America-like...it seems like that is what they REALLY want.


I love my country, I love her mixed heritage and I love my own mixed heritage.   I really, really don't see what the problem is with that. Black, white, red, yellow, polka-dotted or chartreuse....we are all Americans, and that should be the thread that binds us together.  Therein lies our strength. 


I will now officially stop beating this poor dead horse.  :)   Have a good day, my fellow Americans, every last one of you.  :)


And the first shot is fired.......
by those, in the name of our Lord, Jesus Christ, spew things like "you are a nasty old hag arne't you?"  How Christian.
These are perfect!! Thanks for the shot . .
of reality . . . well, reality to most of us, anyway. 
Whackos like her are the ones that shot down

There is still a shot he might not leave. sm
The economy is very bad and there could be a catastrophic emergency (Directive 51), and we are stuck with him.
DON'T SHOT THE MESSENGER

It could be a joke, but I do trust Huffingtonpost.  It is also posted on other parts of the net.  For him to do so (pardon Bin Laden), probably means nothing to anyone except "Bush" since Bin Laden has not been captured and is not a U.S. citizen. You can search it yourself and form your own opinion:  "Bush Pardon's Osama Bin Laden" or you can copy and paste the link below.


I don't put anything past Bush and nothing he does surprises me.  I'm embarassed that I voted for him.  After stating that he gets a "briefing" every day, on Larry King when asked, if we ever came close to capturing Bin Laden, his reply was "I don't know......I really don't know."   First of all, you should know, and if you don't know, you don't say I don't know.  You can discuss the gallant attempts by our military to capture him, the sacrifice they gave of themselves to capture him, etc.  LAME DUCK -- BYE!!


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-rees/breaking-bush-pardons-osa_b_159272.html


 


 


 


The guy that shot him was a coward.
If he was doing God's work, he should have come forth and said so.
Let's give that a shot - here goes...
I would be an Irish-German-Welsh-Scottish-Native-American-American, at least as far back as I have traced my ancestry.

Think there's a box for that one?
You have a better shot at getting the truth paying sm
attention to alternative media. You will not get it in the box by mainstream, heavily censored, corporate owned media.
Forgotten the minute you took you last best shot.
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Sigh. Another anonymous shot across the bow. (nm)
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You got your wish. An MP was shot in the leg by looters. Women are being raped.
Police are turning in their badges because they say their homes are gone and it isn't worth it to them to get shot stopping looters.  There is anarchy in New Orleans.   Your with come true. 
Under the Bush regime, I don't think it's that much of a long shot.
I think and fear it is possible.  Wouldn't surprise me if the next civil war breaks out in the United States in the form of another Christian crusade.  It could happen.  We don't really live in a republic any more.  :-(
Give it your best shot. Spotlight on the pubs
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The sicko who shot the army soldier

and murdered him justifies himself by saying it was not a murder; it was a justified killing.......    Our liberal media has been so hush hush about the murder of this solider, maybe they think they same thing!!  They sure have talked about the baby murderer's murder til I'm sick to death of hearing it!!! 


Too bad Obama thought discussing the tiller murder was more important than mentioning a soldier's murder in THIS country due to a sicko islamic convert within our own country....  speaks volumes to me...


The sicko who shot the army soldier

and murdered him justifies himself by saying it was not a murder; it was a justified killing.......    Our liberal media has been so hush hush about the murder of this solider, maybe they think they same thing!!  They sure have talked about the baby murderer's murder til I'm sick to death of hearing it!!! 


Too bad Obama thought discussing the tiller murder was more important than mentioning a soldier's murder in THIS country due to a sicko islamic convert within our own country....  speaks volumes to me...


King funeral--just another money shot for politicians
and opportunity for all politicians involved to bloviate ad nauseum. The whole thing went on forever. Reminds me of the old Appalachian mountain funerals where there were five or six preachers and each one had to see who could out preach the other.

Everybody had to get their money shot (especially Clinton and Carter) and to me it was sad to see a bunch of politicans and so-called religious leaders take advantage a good woman's funeral just to make their political hay.

Goes to show that you can't even die anymore without it being shrouded in politics.
Love the bust/head shot where he's worshiping the pie.
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At Wounded Knee, two federal agents were shot to death. sm

One was killed while going for his gun after being shot at.  The gun was so high powered, it severed his hand. He was married and a father.  I don't think Wounded Knee is anything to be proud of. 


Poster who implies anyone wanted officers shot was certainly slamming.
And if they did not mean to do it - which I doubt - they need to rethink their delivery if they don't want to be continually misunderstood (though I also doubt they were).
Well, it's official my day is shot. Obama was inaugerated AND I'm getting crappy dictation!
I just can't win today! 
One of the police chiefs
of one of the parishes in LA said that civilian water management people and civilian engineers etc. were being recruited to come there because the National Guard was overwhelmed in size and in capability. He said some had just come for 2 or 3 missions in Iraq or Afghanistan and were exhausted. I'm sorry I did not get his name. I will be more vigilant next time so if you want to tell someone they are alledging something that is untrue you'll get the right person.  I's just the messenger. Since I am not there I have no idea how many National Guard are there, on call, whatever, but I still believe they are needed here more than there.
The US is becoming a police state.sm
It is not full-fledged yet, but 95% there. There is a rush to incarcerate (1 in 136 Americans are in jails and prisons). National ID card by 2010, RFID chips, face scanners installed at high schools, those who disagree with government are called homegrown terrorists (another false flag) or traitors. It is very well known that both Bush presidents support the one world government (NWO). The USA no longer resembles the Constitutional Republic it is supposed to be. Land of the free is an illusion.
We are not world police
So Saddam was a bad person..so what..that means we are supposed to sacrifice our hard earned taxes to pay for a war in Iraq?  That means we are supposed to sacrifice our brave military to invade a nonthreatening country?  There are many places in this old tired world where people are being brutalized..It is not our responsibility to be the world police, it is not our place to save the world from itself.  If Iraq was a threat to America, that would have been a different story.   This invasion and control of a Middle Eastern country was thought up in the early 1990s by Cheney, Perle, Wolfowitz.  On the other hand, we are no better than Saddam now..We have killed hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis, destroyed an ancient country, we cant even give them full time electricity or fresh water or safe secure homes and jobs.  The war was wrong, the situation in Iraq is worse than when Saddam ruled.  Iraq was better off with Saddam in power.  However, keep trying to justify the war..It provides me a chuckle daily when I see the republican spinmeisters come up with a different reason for invasion almost daily. Bush says Iraq will be a comma in the history books..I disagree, Bush will be looked upon as a warmonger who got it so wrong, a failed presidency
Not our job to police the world...
Clinton - Kosovo. Clinton - Somalia. People died there too. If we had stayed in Somalia and nipped AL Qaeda in the bud there...if Clinton had accepted bin Laden from the Sudan...if, if, if. Have you read the Iraq Liberation bill? The idea for invading Iraq to topple saddam was born during Clinton's term...Bush did not invent it. All the same people who protest it now voted it into law. How would you expect anyone to take you seriously? It is never the liberal's fault. That is the one thread that remains true.

Yes, it is a matter of CHOICE. Why, though, is it only YOUR choice?

You danced around it, but it is very true...because there were some botched abortions in the 40's and 50's, we now have abortion on demand, our own genocide to the tune of 1.2 million a year, and somehow this is acceptable to you in the name of CHOICE. TO some of us, it isn't. You get choice, we don't. You need to change the name of your party, because it has little to do with democracy. If abortion was put to a vote of the people it would fail. Precisely why your party will not allow that to happen.

Because of this war we have ignited the fires of extremists and terrorists? Where were you for the first world trade center bombing? Where were you for Khobar Towers...the USS Cole, the african embassies? Somalia when your soliders bodies were dragged through the streets? They have been ignited for years, but were ignored for 8 of those years by Bill Clinton!

You enable abortion in the name of choice...you advocate it. If it went to ballot, you would vote for it. That is advocating it, no matter how you try to parse words.

Why is it easier to get incensed about war than about abortion? Do you think those infants want to be killed? Do they not have a right to life? Where is their choice?
Have you ever lived in police state?

Because if you had you'd definitely be able to see the VAST difference between a police state and the American state.


Also, your one-world government theory about the Bush's doesn't sync with your view that Bush is alienating the rest of the world, but I guess you think because Bush wants democracy for the world he somehow is planning to take over the world.


Wow, you are very steeped in conspiracy theory I'll give you that.


Why the spelling police have shown up! sm
I make typos all the time and so does everyone else. 
Call off the typo police.
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spoken by the grammar police.
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Your point? Are you the spell police? nm
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Oh no...the swearing police are back.
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And who appointed you the "Posting Police?" sm
Everybody is entitled to an opinion just as you are. You should be able to get a pretty good idea of what the posts will say from the subject line. If you are so thin-skinned that you have to take offense at somebody elses posting, then either leave the board and go elsewhere or just don't open the thread. Easy as that.
Humor police in the house....(sm)

The intent of the post was not to compare an embryo to a turkey, but rather simply a joke saying that she would take up one cause but not the other.  If you read the posts below you might understand the joke.


However, since you mentioned it, I'm sure I could make that comparrison.  Our ideas of when life begins are obviously not the same.