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It's the best I could do on short notice. sm

Posted By: MT on 2005-07-20
In Reply to: Oh dear... - Tee-Tee

Suffice it to say, I am not comfortable with portraying the US as the Great Satan and whatever role we have or have not played, everyone turns to us in time of need, now don't they.  And I mean EVERYONE, every single country.  So how bad are we really?  Just as I do not believe the Islamofascists are jealous of us for what we have, and they aren't, I do not believe that portraying the US as the Great Satan is going to win us any brownie points with terrorists who already hate us. So if you and Chomsky are comfortable with putting every man, woman and child in this country at risk to satisfy whatever beef you have against freedom and democracy, fine.  Your freedom of speech had a most terrible and high price tag.  Something tells me that many of these fine men and women, if they could speak now, would not thank you for your thoughts.  


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    between A.Nonymous and North to Home. 


     


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    North to Home felt personally attacked, resorted to personal name-calling and hurled accusations such as:  Inflammatory, blatantly racist,  underlying hatred, prejudice and hatred of all people different from you, cowardly, insulting, nasty, racist bigoted rants, sickening, [more bigotry, more hatred, more prejudice, blah, blah, blah.]


     


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    North to Home:  The only one making personal attacks is you.  Toughen up, baby.  To participate on this board you have to develop rhino hide. [No that is not a slur against anybody with African roots.  Don’t start up with me about it.]  This is a place for reasoned political opinion and discussion, not angry overreaction.  Chill.  Don’t post when you are so obviously angry.  Anyone who resorts to name-calling in a political argument needs to work on objectivity.  We argue, we don’t attack.


     


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    Oh, did I forget to mention.....



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    ...and forget the line of succession. Consider the possibility that the Widow Obama could then run in 2012, snaffling the sympathy vote! GAK!!

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