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Just one more reason why I can't wait until

Posted By: Barack Obama is finally sworn in. on 2008-12-15
In Reply to: I didn't think it was hilarious - cranberry

How do you spell 'R-E-L-I-E-F' ??

Dubya is not only a tard, he's also a TURD. Kudos to the Iraqi reporter.


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O was wise ... wait... wait... I'm rolling in the aisle.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Osamabama 'distances' himself from every lame association he ever had with his rat pack of radical nut job friends.

And if he's lucky enough to get elected, he's going to distance himself from his fawning flock as soon as his advisors tell him there's no way in hades to pay for his free po'folk tax cuts he promised without throwing the economy into the tank.
Wait, wait - see message
I see the cloud opening and a light coming through... maybe I'm going to have an epiphany and realized I should have voted for him all along. HA HA HA
This is the reason we are in Iraq and it's the same reason I didn't vote for him in 2000: Didn't

his own personal reasons.


http://www.tompaine.com/articles/20050620/why_george_went_to_war.php


The Downing Street memos have brought into focus an essential question: on what basis did President George W. Bush decide to invade Iraq? The memos are a government-level confirmation of what has been long believed by so many: that the administration was hell-bent on invading Iraq and was simply looking for justification, valid or not.


Despite such mounting evidence, Bush resolutely maintains total denial. In fact, when a British reporter asked the president recently about the Downing Street documents, Bush painted himself as a reluctant warrior. "Both of us didn't want to use our military," he said, answering for himself and British Prime Minister Blair. "Nobody wants to commit military into combat. It's the last option."


Yet there's evidence that Bush not only deliberately relied on false intelligence to justify an attack, but that he would have willingly used any excuse at all to invade Iraq. And that he was obsessed with the notion well before 9/11—indeed, even before he became president in early 2001.


In interviews I conducted last fall, a well-known journalist, biographer and Bush family friend who worked for a time with Bush on a ghostwritten memoir said that an Iraq war was always on Bush's brain.


"He was thinking about invading Iraq in 1999," said author and Houston Chronicle journalist Mickey Herskowitz. "It was on his mind. He said, 'One of the keys to being seen as a great leader is to be seen as a commander-in-chief.' And he said, 'My father had all this political capital built up when he drove the Iraqis out of Kuwait and he wasted it.' He went on, 'If I have a chance to invade…, if I had that much capital, I'm not going to waste it. I'm going to get everything passed that I want to get passed and I'm going to have a successful presidency.'"


Bush apparently accepted a view that Herskowitz, with his long experience of writing books with top Republicans, says was a common sentiment: that no president could be considered truly successful without one military "win" under his belt. Leading Republicans had long been enthralled by the effect of the minuscule Falklands War on British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher's popularity, and ridiculed Democrats such as Jimmy Carter who were reluctant to use American force. Indeed, both Reagan and Bush's father successfully prosecuted limited invasions (Grenada, Panama and the Gulf War) without miring the United States in endless conflicts.


Herskowitz's revelations illuminate Bush's personal motivation for invading Iraq and, more importantly, his general inclination to use war to advance his domestic political ends. Furthermore, they establish that this thinking predated 9/11, predated his election to the presidency and predated his appointment of leading neoconservatives who had their own, separate, more complex geopolitical rationale for supporting an invasion.


Conversations With Bush The Candidate


Herskowitz—a longtime Houston newspaper columnist—has ghostwritten or co-authored autobiographies of a broad spectrum of famous people, including Reagan adviser Michael Deaver, Mickey Mantle, Dan Rather and Nixon cabinet secretary John B. Connally. Bush's 1999 comments to Herskowitz were made over the course of as many as 20 sessions together. Eventually, campaign staffers—expressing concern about things Bush had told the author that were included in the manuscript—pulled the project, and Bush campaign officials came to Herskowitz's house and took his original tapes and notes. Bush communications director Karen Hughes then assumed responsibility for the project, which was published in highly sanitized form as A Charge to Keep.


The revelations about Bush's attitude toward Iraq emerged during two taped sessions I held with Herskowitz. These conversations covered a variety of matters, including the journalist's continued closeness with the Bush family and fondness for Bush Senior—who clearly trusted Herskowitz enough to arrange for him to pen a subsequent authorized biography of Bush's grandfather, written and published in 2003.


I conducted those interviews last fall and published an article based on them during the final heated days of the 2004 campaign. Herskowitz's taped insights were verified to the satisfaction of editors at the Houston Chronicle, yet the story failed to gain broad mainstream coverage, primarily because news organization executives expressed concern about introducing such potent news so close to the election. Editors told me they worried about a huge backlash from the White House and charges of an "October Surprise."


Debating The Timeline For War


But today, as public doubts over the Iraq invasion grow, and with the Downing Street papers adding substance to those doubts, the Herskowitz interviews assume singular importance by providing profound insight into what motivated Bush—personally—in the days and weeks following 9/11. Those interviews introduce us to a George W. Bush, who, until 9/11, had no means for becoming "a great president"—because he had no easy path to war. Once handed the national tragedy of 9/11, Bush realized that the Afghanistan campaign and the covert war against terrorist organizations would not satisfy his ambitions for greatness. Thus, Bush shifted focus from Al Qaeda, perpetrator of the attacks on New York and Washington. Instead, he concentrated on ensuring his place in American history by going after a globally reviled and easily targeted state run by a ruthless dictator.


The Herskowitz interviews add an important dimension to our understanding of this presidency, especially in combination with further evidence that Bush's focus on Iraq was motivated by something other than credible intelligence. In their published accounts of the period between 9/11 and the March 2003 invasion, former White House Counterterrorism Coordinator Richard Clarke and journalist Bob Woodward both describe a president single-mindedly obsessed with Iraq. The first anecdote takes place the day after the World Trade Center collapsed, in the Situation Room of the White House. The witness is Richard Clarke, and the situation is captured in his book, Against All Enemies.



On September 12th, I left the Video Conferencing Center and there, wandering alone around the Situation Room, was the President. He looked like he wanted something to do. He grabbed a few of us and closed the door to the conference room. "Look," he told us, "I know you have a lot to do and all…but I want you, as soon as you can, to go back over everything, everything. See if Saddam did this. See if he's linked in any way…"


I was once again taken aback, incredulous, and it showed. "But, Mr. President, Al Qaeda did this."


"I know, I know, but…see if Saddam was involved. Just look. I want to know any shred…" …


"Look into Iraq, Saddam," the President said testily and left us. Lisa Gordon-Hagerty stared after him with her mouth hanging open.


Similarly, Bob Woodward, in a CBS News 60 Minutes interview about his book, Bush At War, captures a moment, on November 21, 2001, where the president expresses an acute sense of urgency that it is time to secretly plan the war with Iraq. Again, we know there was nothing in the way of credible intelligence to precipitate the president's actions.



Woodward: "President Bush, after a National Security Council meeting, takes Don Rumsfeld aside, collars him physically and takes him into a little cubbyhole room and closes the door and says, 'What have you got in terms of plans for Iraq? What is the status of the war plan? I want you to get on it. I want you to keep it secret.'"


Wallace (voiceover): Woodward says immediately after that, Rumsfeld told Gen. Tommy Franks to develop a war plan to invade Iraq and remove Saddam—and that Rumsfeld gave Franks a blank check.


Woodward: "Rumsfeld and Franks work out a deal essentially where Franks can spend any money he needs. And so he starts building runways and pipelines and doing all the necessary preparations in Kuwait specifically to make war possible."


Bush wanted a war so that he could build the political capital necessary to achieve his domestic agenda and become, in his mind, "a great president." Blair and the members of his cabinet, unaware of the Herskowitz conversations, placed Bush's decision to mount an invasion in or about July of 2002. But for Bush, the question that summer was not whether, it was only how and when. The most important question, why, was left for later.


Eventually, there would be a succession of answers to that question: weapons of mass destruction, links to Al Qaeda, the promotion of democracy, the domino theory of the Middle East. But none of them have been as convincing as the reason George W. Bush gave way back in the summer of 1999.



 


Yes..cant wait
Yes, soon.  Gonna be very interesting.
wait you said

6 or 8 or 10 times before you didn't care if he was a rock star.  I don't understand.  Plez elaborate why you don't care and what you think this means and how we can change it so that you DO care. Don't mince words, I want to know.


 


 


Oh, wait . . . I just got it
it is being written as Samonella, not Salmonella so it is jab at sam. My, oh my, what sensitive people.
Wait, did you actually just say this: sm
You wrote:
"Well, unlike some, I don't decide what to think depending on what the candidate I support says."

Oh sam, that is priceless. You slay me. You and Sarah Palin are both adorable.
But wait - there's more!
This is absolutely a fact - a fact that has been swept under the rug by the liberal media.  Actually, there are a LOT of facts that are swept under the rug, while we focus on the fact that Palin's daughter is pregnant, or that her clothes are too expensive, or her lack of experience (they conveniently avoid the fact that Obama was in congress 143 days, and most of the time didn't even bother to vote).  Do the American people know that there is a lawsuit pending regarding the fact that Obama was born in Kenya?  (His own family members have stated this fact). I doubt that little fact was leaked out to too many CBS or CNN viewers.  Do the American people know the magnitude of the fraudulent votes through the Democratic group Acorn (over 200,000 in Ohio alone!)  And one of the heads of ACORN insists this is not a ploy to win the election.  Oh really??  If this were a group of Republicans registering the dead and nonexistant to vote all he** would break loose.  But it's not - it favors the Democrats, so we'll sweep that under the rug, too...
Can't wait
Guaranteed, they'll turn on Obama. Personally, I can't wait. That is assuming we still have our first amendment rights.

Wait! We don't know if he's going to be
a great leader yet. I'm hoping so, and so does DH, but only time will tell.
BB I can't wait
to hear that explanation either.  I can't figure out whether some of these posters are mentally challenged or if they just believe everything they hear and "wish" would be true.  Trickle up poverty?  LOL  Might not do so much harm if some of the poverty trickled up to these bloated CEOs and politicians.  Might not hurt them any to go live in a trailer house for awhile and eat pinto beans.  ROFL at the very thought.  Doncha know they wouldn't like even middle class living let alone poverty.
He can't do everything in one day...wait and see what happens.
:)
Oh just wait
It is going to get much, much worse.  Hyperinflation is going to rear its ugly head here soon enough.
Just wait until they
start cap and trade.  If you think your utility bills are high now....just wait.  No one will be able to afford heat, light, etc.  It will double if not more.  Kinds of makes me wish I had a wood stove or fire place in my house just in case we can't afford heat during the winter.
We will just have to wait and see

when all the information is unclassified and investigated.  I personally feel that Obama has opened up a big can of worms with this.  He should have left well alone.  I think we need more information, and certainly not from MSNBC, before we will truly know the truth behind this. 


You can bash Fox News every time someone posts something and yet you can't handle me attacking your precious little MSNBC.  Awww.


Yes, BEST to wait
but once they are grown, they will make their own decision in every facet of life, regardless what they have been taught. You hope and pray it will be the right thing. Yes, it is best to wait. It is the best thing to do. It is the Christian thing to do. Whether they do or not will be up to them. I taught them what was best. What did you teach your son?
I will wait for the jury to come in.
We haven't heard the whole story or even the tip of the iceberg.  Personally, I cannot abide Bill O'Reilly.  John Murtha is a 37 year military veteran and has always been a hawk. I would like to hear more of what he knows.  I will withhold judgment until I do hear. 
We can't wait a few years. Someone needs to......sm
do something to get these parasites out of the White House now.
I can't wait for the debates...sm
And yeah...I agree Hillary lost her thunder when it became evident she was robbing Peter to pay Paul.

wait a minute there
if you are wealthy and repub, drug addiction is an ILLNESS.  If you are middle class or poor and perhaps a person of color, it is CRIME.  Get your facts straight.
The pit bull can't wait either. He won't need
nm
yes, can hardly wait for some more "uuhhhs"
nm
can't wait for the debates

A constitutional lawyer is pretty . . . good . . . in debates.


 


LOL!!! I'm sure if you wait long enough
someone will choose Howling with Laughter too!!!  HWL!  Oh he--, maybe I'll change to HWL! or H/L.  Silly ol' bear.
lets just wait and see how it

all plays out.  As for McCain being incontinent, I did not know that until you said so. That's a shame.


 


Can we really afford to wait
until November to vote on this?  I don't think so.  Something needs to be done now.  I'm sure they will have a plan by the end of this weekend and it will be passed. 
I totally can NOT wait!
I'm sure the writers at SNL are going to get a LOT of skit-fodder for Tina Fey in this next go-round.

I'm counting down the hours 'til this one! It's gonna be GOOD!!!!!!
Just wait until she gets her beloved
the other Dem congresspeople in office, see what kind of power they have then!
And if you think the schools are bad now, just wait
Obama can't even get his own state straightened out, but he's gonna straighten out the country!

We’ve already seen how Barack manages large programs, under the Annenberg Challenge with Bill Ayers he gave away a total of 150 million to gaggle of community activist groups to improve schools. Some of those groups were radical, but putting that aside a moment you can see that the vague “feel good” instead of results-oriented direction under Obama just created monumental waste with zero results. The other cities given these grants saw improvement, Chicago stands alone with zero improvement.
Oh now, wait a minute
Isn't it the dems that hate rich old white folks. But, of course, you can't hate rich old black folks, right?

What a hypocrit!
just wait, Chele, until they get all our
guns. I think the UN troops will do that, door to door, along with whatever else some guy might see while he is in your home, like your 12 year old daughter or your antique jewelry left by your grandmother. These people over here just don't realize what is coming. So sad, the late, great America.
Guess we will have to wait and see
If/when he is elected and watch for the release of his personal tax returns. The only way to know for sure.
Wait...let me do a little editing....sm
just kidding...lol
Absolutely.....oh no, wait, they won't pay me...I
nn
Wait for the documentary...of course, you won't believe that either...sm
You and others here were well informed and still voted for Obama.

However, massive numbers of voters know/knew next to nothing about Obama.

You can't change those facts, no matter how the media tries to twist it.
wait till you see the

newstand next week -- nothing but a sea of Obama faces.  Better do a two-week marketing this week.


 


Wait a minute!!!!
So now it's unpatriotic to bash the president? Seriously?
yeah.....so let's wait until they

blow up part of the US before we believe they have WMDs.  Sounds like a great idea to me........sheesh.  Some of you people wouldn't believe there are WMD even if it was shot up your bum.


Wait a minute now
I have always been a Republican, but I have to say I am very disappointed by what I see.  The news is getting worse and worse everyday because we have 24/7 news!  Everyone under the sun has a 1 hour news show where they have to talk about something and the economy is what they focus on.  I never see any good news anymore.  It seems they are more worried about what Fox is saying and Fox is worried about what so-and-so said on another station.  A bunch of little boys trying to see who has the bigger penis (sorry, but true).  So it is an all out slamming war.  I always thought Republicans/Conservatives were patriotic - oh not so now!!  They are the ones throwing the tantrum and being negative about EVERYTHING!   They aren't supporting the president or who is in charge.   Where is the hope?  Where is the proud American attitude?  The dems won, it's their turn, stop listening to the "doom" messages and wait to see what happens.  GEEZ!   Like I said, I am a Repubican, and I will accept this plan for the economy and I will support my president.  Just because most of the plans don't improve my life, doesn't mean they don't improve the life of someone else who deserves it and our country.  Call me crazy, but I still believe in supporting my country no matter what because, well, I like living here.  Talk about what you believe in and disagree with, but quit saying we are going down the drain.  That's being a little dramatic! 
We can't wait until the end of his term as you put it

People are underwater every day and more following. Trying to pass a budget before it's necessary is just another way of spending money and has nothing to do to help the economy, especially with the thousands of earmarks in it. The congress and senate are still on the so-called honeymoon and O thinks everything will go smooth for the first 100 days.


Well, it's not. It's not better than when Bush was office. The house and senate are still fighting and nothing O says helps. Of course, NP and her threats don't help. Bipartisanship my foot! NP wants to take over and she's doing a very good job of being "acting  president."


 


Yep, the wait-and-see crowd

has not much to say.  We waited.  We saw.  None of this surprises anybody who watched anything other than CBS, NBC and ABC during the campaign. 


And remember, Clinton was impeached, but remained in office.  Throwing the bum out is a separate step after impeachment. 


No wait, don't tell me -- you think if a kid is adopted,
BTW - I know a gay couple (women) who had children, and they're legally both women's children. How did they do it? Donor sperm, one woman donated the egg, and the other woman was inseminated, carried the pregnancy, and gave birth. So there is both a birth-mother AND a biological mother.
I wait years
I never go to the doctor - no insurance - cannot afford it, so I wait years until I'm deathly ill. I don't think Universal Health Care is the answer either- I don't know the answer - but I wish someone would come up with something.
wait one minute
I do not believe homosexuality to be a "disability." don't go twisting my words. that is not what I said and you know it.
Now wait a minute
You cannot lump all republicans in with one moron like that. You're stereotyping.

Some of our government's biggest problems is that the Democrats have become liberals (our last true Dem was Kennedy) and the Republican party seems to have forgotten what it is supposed to stand for. Reagan, IMO, was our last true Republican prez. The president should be a highly respected position and the media should not be asking questions like "do you wear boxers or briefs?" Thanks to that, I have images of Clinton in his underwear and it makes me want to sear out my corneas.

Our country has lost a lot of its values. There's no excuse for what that woman did and it was especially stupid for her to E-mail it ("Oh, lookey at the stupid thing I just did") but please don't lump us all together.

My only biased bones in my body are toward the terrorists who have attacked our country. And even with that, I pray to God to help me, because I don't want to dislike anyone.
what choice do I have but to wait and see what he does?
I cannot go down to the courthouse right now and say "oh, by the way, I am unhappy so let me vote for the next president today," and oh yeah, I want him to start work tomorrow. I wish I had that kind of power, but I do not.

My post clearly said that I am waiting to see how the next 3-1/2 years go before I make up my mind totally on who to vote for next.
Just wait till Halliburton gets the

Dubai Ports contract that they now say they are going to hire Americans to run.


Talk about thumbing his nose to America!


Let's wait and see how than relates in votes....
shall we? :-)
I am as well.. can't wait for the speakers tonight, especially SP
nm
I said I prefer to wait for the investigation and
Letting an official process play itself out is what open-minded, objective people do before they make judgments.
Just wait.....Obama has skeletons in his
closet, too. Explain all those missing years that no one knows about, lack of friends standing up with him. Have you noticed how he surrounds himself with kids for advisors? No thanks. He knows less than nothing, if his financial advisor is 28 years old, and can't answer simple questions, even when posed by the liberal media.