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Michelle is a nice, educated person, BUT

Posted By: what? on 2009-03-02
In Reply to: She's beautiful and looks fantastic... - sm

I would not call her beautiful. Come on! What is beautiful on her? And regarding her 'own' style?
Sure, everybody has his/her own style.


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Do you consider yourself to be an intelligent educated person?
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you seem like a nice person.
NM
I do accept her as a nice person and...sm
I am never rude to her or mean or anything. It is just I see the financial ruin our country is in and I think there are no telling how many illegal immigrants the government is paying for to have children and other benefits. Our government cannot afford this and it isn't right for them to cheat our country out of money when they are illegally here. And there are people who are legal American citizens who can't get this help from the government but someone who is breaking the law can. It just doesn't seem right. And who can blame her for not wanting to live here rather than in Mexico? BUT why not go through the appropriate means to do this? Legally? Become a US citizen and pay taxes like other US citizens do. If you want the benefits of living in America you should pay for it like everyone else, i.e. taxes.
A note about educated and un-educated
I think a lot of people get the two mixed up. They believe that if you have a degree you are educated. Anyone can go to school, sit through classes, study and take a test. That's the easy part. The hard part (IMHO) is for people to receive information, process it, understand it, and make their own informed decisions. I have a sister who has a 4 year degree and graduated from a college, but she is not educated on the policies or what is going on in the country and around the world. Also have a brother & brother in-law with their degrees. One understands the issues presented to us, the other, like my sister only knows what they were taught in class, and they tell me that the instructors would not lie to them so they will believe what their instructors taught them. You ask them about a policy or why laws were put into place, ask them to talk to you about what's going on in the country/world, etc, and they cannot answer.

Then there are those who did not receive a "formal" education yet when you talk to them you can have an honest intelligent discussion with them. They ask questions and give input. They share information and think on their own.

Therefore the two really need to be separated.

Education = informed and able to think and process information without being told how to think. This can include both people with degrees and without.

Uneducated - blindly following what someone tells you what to do and how to think. You have no ideas of your own and just mimic the words of others. This can include both people with degrees and without.
yes, the first person did....the person replying to that post...
was talking about the founding fathers...who came along a long time after the witch trials. You replied to the second post, not the first one. I was replying to you based on that. Purtianism came first...Christianity was the religion practiced by the founding fathers. It is evident in their writings and in most of our original documents.

I think we can stop whipping this dead horse now.
better educated does not always
equal more intelligent. don't people get that?
Well, here's some of your educated

answers:


“He was born and educated in America.” He spent 10 years in Indonesia.


 


“What you are saying is ridiculous” yet you don’t back it up with anything.


 


“Are you kidding me?” and don’t back it up with anything.


 


“I am a refined democrat” but don’t give reasons why.


 


“What’s this nonsense” yet nothing to back it up?


 


 


and my favorite:


“Why should an American President be born in the US?
This should be amended. It is old fashioned.
A child born to illegal immigrants in the US can become an American President.
Is this LOGIC?”


 


This means you don’t care if who runs for president from other countries, even terrorists. Way to go!


 


in an mature and educated

community this would be ideal.  Kerry thought there were enough reasonable adults to see through the Swift Boat lies and did not fight back;  that is why he lost the election. I am glad Obama choses not to stoop to smear and fear.  Yet to prevent another Swift Boat type election, somebody has to sling the garbage back at the same level as the bottom feeders. Its a dirty job but hey . . .


 


 


oops...that should be under-educated. (nm)
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Yea, they are SOOOO educated that they
be taken over by Muslim terrorists.....yea, they're really on top of it.
You are so right. You educated yourself to the issues and now sm
You realize, as I do, that Obama is going to fight for us. He is going to penalize companies who outsource. That means OUR jobs. What is up with people on this board? I am sure if they paid attention like you did they would be voting Obama too. I, like you, have dissected every bit of info this year. I watched Dem and Repub primaries, follow all of the issues and it's so completely clear that Obama is the right one.
Maybe not hicks, but obviously not educated..
enough to work hard instead of sitting on the internet, watching dancing with the stars, eating doritos and flipping through people magazine whlie waiting for their check in the mail. Sheeple will follow each other over the cliff, hope you have on your hiney is well padded!
You don't sound educated because

of some of your posts below.


I'm very educated and I voted for him

Maybe if you would take the time to educate yourself rather than just read crap on blogs, you might not worry so much.  The bill is creating the Congressional Commission on Civic Service, which may be referred to as the Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act (GIVE).


In section 6104 it states


(b) Specific Topics- In carrying out its general purpose under subsection (a), the Commission shall address and analyze the following specific topics:


(6) Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.


They're simply exploring whether a national service requirement is even feasible.  They're not implementing anything yet.  Why people get worked up without even  knowing what they're getting worked up about is beyond me.  Which is why I usually stay off the political board.


I'm going back to work now.


 


college educated voter in the

suburb up the road says farmer is an ignorant redneck who does not check facts.


 


Then maybe that college educated voter......... sm
might like to test that theory by working a season or two in the redneck farmer's fields.

I live in an area where there are a lot of immigrant workers. The truth of the matter is that farmers really cannot afford to pay a wage high enough to be able to afford even a modest apartment, let alone buy food and pay utilities. I live right down the road from a poultry farm which employs a family of Mexican immigrants. The farmer, while making a fairly decent living (at least until Pilgrim's filed bankruptcy) provides a mobile home for the family to live in, pays utilities on said home and also pays the family wages to work on his poultry farm. No doubt this family recieves Medicaid and food stamps as well and the children probably get free lunches at school. It is very hard, if not impossible, to get Americans to work these kinds of jobs. I'm not condoning illegal immigrants, but if legal immigrants will do the job, then why not hire them?
ever heard of over-educated idiots?
mind you, i am not calling anyone that, but just stating how it is commonly understood that one can be very educated in the system, and not be too smart still. you just keep watching, and be fair to both candidates, and see if you don't see what i am talking about.
F: Obama more intelligent, better educated. nm
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They're a lot more progressive and educated.

OBAMA 08! the only educated choice NM

Democrats are more educated and have more class sm
But I agree that Fox News watchers are easily manipulated and usually not all that bright.
Can these people not see the class that Obama has? sheesh.
Seems the EDUCATED are "whacked out" (like your president). nm
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right, al the young and educated, progressive
people voted for Mousavi. Even before all the votes were in, the government already announced a landslide win for Ahmedinejad. Definitely fraud, Ahmedinejad's ratings before the elections were very low, high unemployment rate. How could he win?
Whoops....A person....not I person.
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Is Obama an elitist because he is better educated than McCain?
What do you think makes Obama an elitist?
Palis? See what I mean about educated? typossss on an MT board? nm
nm
Obama supporters are very educated and not hicks nm
nm
To all well-educated voters and free thinkers...

On Tuesday night, If and when Barack Hussein Obama wins the 2008 United States Presidential Election, please join me in announcing that "The tribe has spoken, and that  John McCain, Sarah Palin, and the ubiquitous Sam have officially been voted off the island!"



"...he is a self-educated, caring, honest, and intelligent man"
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Apparently you don't understand statistics or science. Get educated, please!!

 


It's not scientifically sound to make pseudo-scientific statements about U.S. obesity based on a television program you saw that featured some obese people in it.  But it seems when it comes to scientific fact, statistics or the truth - you CONS don't have a clue.


 


Rankings: Obesity Rates Grew In Every State But Oregon


Mississippi Ranked Heaviest State



POSTED: 8:29 am PDT August 23, 2005

UPDATED: 9:34 am PDT August 23, 2005


The obesity epidemic isn't winding down -- in fact, it's expanding, according to state rankings released Tuesday by Trust for America's Health, a nonprofit health advocacy group.

Obesity rates continued to rise last year in every state but Oregon. Mississippi ranked as the heaviest state, Colorado as the least heavy, according to the report, titled F as in Fat: How Obesity Policies are Failing in America, 2005.

The rankings are based on averages of three years of data from 2002 to 2004 from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Hawaii was not included in the report.

About 64.5 percent of adult Americans are either overweight or obese. The report found that more than 25 percent of adults in 10 states are obese, including in Mississippi, Alabama, West Virginia, Louisiana, Tennessee, Texas, Michigan, Kentucky, Indiana and South Carolina.

Obama is the choice of the educated and smartest people nm
nm
Commie? This is out of line. Obama supporters are educated. nm
nm
I'll take progressive-thinking, educated liberals any day
8)
Totally wrong because the most educated people vote for Obama sm
That is a fact. The dumb, uneducated vote repub, the greedy rich vote repub and the religious right vote repub. The college educated people vote Obama. Why do you think McBush and Failin are out there calling Joe SixPack etc... that's their only hope. They know the filthy rich without conscience will vote for them. They know the religiouis nuts but some of the eehaas and dummies have been going to Obama and McBush and Failin are freaking out a little.
How about Michelle!!
She was great last night at the convention!!  I will be tuning in for the remainder of the convention.  I am so excited about this race!!  It is time for change!!
Michelle
Not only do I believe Michelle is racist but I believe her husband is as well. If you listen to him it's there even if you have to read between the lines.  My personal feeling is that it would be easier to deal with that than with McCain/Palin.  I will be the first to admit that I may be making a mistake because I do not want to see either of them in office.  Unfortunately, the Republicans on here will not even debate the issues they are so dead set for McCain/Palin.  The fact that some may say she is lacking in experience, which she is, doesn't bother me.  We might even be  better off with an outsider who had no political experience whatsoever but a large dose of common sense which Washington seems to be extremely short on..  Experience is not my problem with Palin.  She comes across to me as a simpering airhead.   What kind of common sense did McCain show when he picked her after having only met her one time and talked to her on the phone once.  Because he thought she would attract Hillary's woman voters.  Looks like he may have been right too.
And so he should....and Michelle should...
remiburse the tax coffers for her little private C130 ride from Paris to London for shopping. Won't hold my breath waiting on that check. It is somehow worse that he was using to meet his mistress than she was using it to go shopping?? BOTH WRONG.
Cindy is 54; Michelle is 44

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here's what Michelle Obama says about the WHOLE PIE - please sm
This is what Michelle Obama had to say about the 'redistribution of wealth' (in keeping with the Global Poverty Act):

"The truth is most Americans don't want much. Folks don't want the whole pie. Most Americans feel blessed to thrive a little bit, but that's out of reach for them. The truth is, in order to get things like unviersal health care and a revamped education system, then SOMEONE IS GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE UP A PIECE OF THEIR PIE SO THAT SOMEONE ELSE CAN HAVE MORE."

And to accomplish this, she says:

"Barack Obama will require you to work. He is gong to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your division, that you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zones, that you push yourselves to be better, and that you engage. BARACK WILL NEVER ALLOW YOU TO GO BACK AND LIVE YOUR LIVES AS USUAL, uninvolved, uniformed."

I'm sorry, but that thinking is more in line with the totalitarian governments of China, North Korea and Cuba. Last I looked, I was still living in America. I have the Constitutional right to succeed or fail according to my own abilities, and I staunchly support everyone else's right to do the same. (You know, that little something called 'the pursuit of happiness?)

But I don't want big government deciding I have 'enough' and handing it off to someone in another country who may not have their 'fair share.' I already pay taxes, tithe 10% to charities, volunteer at my local food bank, and shovel the sidewalk of the elderly couple next door. I think most Americans are doing this kind of stuff day in and day. Because WE CARE about one another.

If more of my money is being shipped overseas, how am I to help my own next door neighbor?


Michelle Obama

When you said that Michelle Obama "doesn't talk like a black woman," - how exactly do black women talk?  When you said that, it is so clear that you are racist.  I am sure you will have one heck of an explanation about what you meant, but I would rather hear how you think black women talk.


I really hope that Michelle will put on at her
next appearance 'some sleeves' at least, or maybe a jacket.
This dress is not only sleeveless, it is less than sleeveless.
Are all the events she attends sleeveless 'informal'?
GEESH, What is next? Michelle
Already has to show off her arms.
maybe this was what he promised Michelle
when he becomes president: A trip to New York and for the girls a doggie.
I see Michelle Obama
as an arrogant bitter black woman with a chip on her shoulder.  There is no beauty that I see.  Her kids are cute though.
Oh, yes. Absolutely. Both BO and Michelle
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Who cares what Michelle Obama wants....
She was not even proud to be American majority of her life. 
Michelle's Boot Camp

http://www.publicallies.org/site/c.liKUL3PNLvF/b.2634379/


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Allies


 


I think Obama and Michelle are racist!
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I think Michelle/Obama are racist

And the McCain/Palin ticket have not/still continue to show racism?? The bottom line of all of the nasty hateful comments that I have seen on this board is that if  Barack Obama did not run for the President of this country, the majority of you whould't give a flying bobcat WHO he is. The number of hateful, bigoted, mean nasty comments I have seen on this board are more than enough to know that in 2008, hate, bigotry and racism have never died; it is displayed in subtle insidious ways - to any of those who care, it has been ONLY a little over TEN years since a black man was tied to the back of a pick up truck in Texas and dragged around so much he was dismembered..it is situations such as those which break my heart - a human being.  I will never understand it; and in this election the racism is extremely blatant. Not to mention the blatantly racist exhibition two white men decided to make money from - check You Tube under "Obama waffles" - look at how he is caricatured and then ask yourself WHAT is racist...


same here....I wonder what Michelle Obama thinks
she knows Biden does not care for her husband and has actually said he is not the man for the job of President. Boy, that must be a tense/false/forced smile when they get together.
Michelle Obama said don't believe the polls.
She said its too close to call right now.

Also there are over 11% who are still undecided.