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Never was an O lover, but was leaning towards O

Posted By: until -- sm on 2008-10-14
In Reply to: Good luck trying to convince O lovers they;re - being lied to and screwed over

reading this.  Not all O supporters are cult-like.  It's just sometimes hard to see the light.  If only McCain would open up his mouth and fight a little.  It's an age old saying -- "The nice guy always finishes last." 


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Left leaning.

I am well aware that I am on a *left leaning* board; however, how can you ever possibly gain a true picture of real facts if you only visit left leaning sites?  It isn't possible. I don't do it. In fact, on the other political boards I post on, some left and some right, Daily Kos, Democratic Underground, News Max, Fox, are not used as sources. 


You misunderstand me about the Constitution and Iraq. 


Sounds like you are leaning towards

socialism, or even worse communism. Capitalism has worked in the country for hundreds of years.


What happened was greed. Honesty has fallen by the wayside. Businesses looked out for their employees and took care of them. You had a secure job, decent health care, and even a pension to look forward to receiving when you were old enough to retire.


Very slowly, health care and insurance companies got greedy, followed by hospitals, banks, real estate brokers, Wall Street, and so-called investment companies.  The attitude of "If they can do it and get away with it, then so can I" came into being. Companies started cutting back on what they would contribute to health plans and retirement plans, followed by excess charges by hospitals because health insurances stopped paying what the hospital charged and became a vicious circle . The less health insurance paid, the more hospitals charged for their services.


You used to only be able to get a mortgage through a bank. Then, mortgage companies came into being. Everyone jumped on the bandwagon. Very good profit made there, but they wanted more of the profit. As long as the mortgages were guaranteed by FM/FM, it was good. So they pushed more mortgages...didn't matter if you couldn't afford it. The housing bubble began. Real estate brokers inflated prices of homes because there would be more profit for themselves. Mortgage companies made more profit because of the inflated prices.


Wall Street started offering hedge funds. Sort of like gambling. Lots of money in that. They wanted more. Investment brokers started ponzi schemes. People bought into them because they wanted more.


My whole point is, in a round about way, is that our society was doing fine until greed took over in all walks of life and what you end up with is what we are dealing with today. It has to correct itself now but, in the process, a lot of people are getting hurt who don't deserve it.


Along comes this president who promises to fix everything. Almost everyone jumps on the bandwagon. He "suggests" legislation to "help", congress and the senate starts pushing legislation through in the first few weeks that really won't help those that deserve the help and because it's within the first 100 days of the honeymoon, people aren't wise to what's in the packages. All they heard was "tax the rich". Well, sooner or later that will be you and me because there won't be anybody making $250,000. If he destroys the companies/people  that make $250,000 or more, he destroys our jobs. Then watch what happens. The rich will be $100,000, then $75,000, then $50,000. After that, everyone will have no choice but to depend on the government for everything. In return, we have socialism and/or communism. Government will run everything.


I better get off my  now.


Left-leaning media? You mean
has given him a free pass on...uh, everything? LOL...that is soooooooooooooo funny!!
All over the left leaning news...I get that...
but I repeat...if someone is not willing to name their sources, I don't put much stock in it. Whether it is about Obama or McCain. Just my opinion.
A link to see how your state is leaning

I've gotta say that this race would be a lot closer if it were based on the popular vote instead of the electoral vote.  Even though I lean to the left, I don't think this is a fair election.  I've always favored a popular vote rather than an electoral vote. 


http://www.electoral-vote.com/


58 +/- 2 democratic leaning indies =
jangled nerves over this one undecided seat. Cornyn is hedging no bets and preparing for the worst case scenario, rather than simply letting the state satisfy itself that it is sending the duly elected representative to Washington based on the most accurate vote count possible. Why is that such as scarey proposition? How much traction do you really think the obstructionists are going to have in the Senate anyway. Not all the pubs are onboard with administration sabotage. Some of them actually remember that their constituents expect them to get something accomplished and to wait until at 16 to 18 months before starting to campaign for their next race.
What are you, a Mc Lover? or is there
an undercurrent to your meaning of "O" lover.  Get over it already.
We know your beliefs....... O lover
If you're not an O lover, then one must be pyschotic. At least they're not led by a nose ring.
Aah, typical response from an O lover....
!!
I think this "O lover/worshiper stuff
comes from little chicks who aren't dry behind the ears yet.  I think the rabid Republicans are far more vocal than the avowed Democrats.  The person who called me "stupid" above makes me laugh.  A couple of things I've heard in the past few days although I haven't taken time to really research what is going on..........Caroline Kennedy to take Hillary's senate seat???  Chelsea Clinton taking the seat?? and....horror of horrors, out of Bush's own mouth, the possibility of his brother Jeb being elected to the senate.  I would say I am an equal opportunity politician hater.........Democrat or Republican.  We do not need Caroline riding into office on her legendary name and as for the Clintons and Bushes...well, I've had a belly full of both of those names. "Obama" is a welcome change of name although I am not happy with all the Clintonites he is appointing and I suspect he's affiliated with the politics of the Clintons and Kennedys.....maybe even with the Bushes. 

How anyone can defend the Bush administration is far beyond me.  I heard D*ck Cheney tonight, from his own mouth, when it was stated by a news talk show host that 2/3 of the American thought the Iraq war was wrong.  He gave his EVIL grin and said "so?"  Ain't that special!!!!!  That is exactly what we've had for the past 8 years from this administration and the last 2 years of the Democrat led Congress....."this is what the people want....." and they say "SO?????"  One would think that it's about time we have a change in leadership.  But then I guess some would consider that though to be "stupid."
no I'm not a lover but do like to stay informed.
I can only take about 5 minutes of bull*(#% a day though.
Obama lover's never see anything wrong with him.

We are talking about the president speaking at a christian school.  He knew where he was at.  Christian schools are going to have religious symbols.  It is a part of their school.  Frankly, as a christian school, if I had to hide any religious symbols just to get a speaker, I wouldn't have that speaker whether it was the pres or anyone else.


i agree - i am a lover and supporter of the obvious
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Wasn't it an Obama lover below that said ACORN
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Now you're a polar bear lover?
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Aaah, typical response from an O lover
!!
Doesn't any O lover feel concerned about all the

No matter what O lovers say, he is Muslim through and through.  And he says nothing about all the Muslim "honor" killings in this country.  He hasn't condemned them one time.  Of course, by doing so he would condemn his brothers in Islam. 


Muslim killings are an every day happening overseas but in this country they are growing by leaps and bounds and yet they get very little news following.  It gets hushed very quickly.   WHy is that?  There is no "honor" in murder and most all of us know that is murder, just some ignorant man using his loathing for females to murder them......even his own daughters.   How sick!   


He's such a butt kisser


Not bitter at all. BTW I wasn't a Bush lover, either! sm
Just being realistic. If you would take the time to peruse the story in a way to inform yourself, you might not have taken this attitude. He said a lot in that piece that is totally obvious!!!
Just like the criticism of anything liberal gets labeled Bush lover
Those in glass houses best not throw stones.