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Not as ignorant as those who don't research

Posted By: ermt/you contradicted yourself on 2008-10-16
In Reply to: Shaking my head. Do you know how ignorant this make you look? nm - unbelievable.

and search out the truth for themselves. Not as ignor@ant as all the people at my old church that will bark out nonsensical noises. Not as ignor@ant as the people who will not question anything no matter how wrong it is. Not as ignor@ant as my aunt who won't wear the color black because it's evil and the devil will posess her, and therefore she wears white to keep herself pure so that she will move right to the front of the line at the pearly gates because god will see how pure and clean she is not wearing those evil dark colors. Not as ignor@ant as the phony minister's wife who tried to convence the mindless souls that she actually witnessed a fight between god and satan for the soul of the electric guitar player in their "rock-and-roll band". Not as ignor@nt as the girls walking around in jean cutoffs and bikini tops saying how "kewl" it is to be able to dress like that to go to church. And especially and most important to me not as ignor@ant as the church members who changed bible versus to fit their way of life.


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ignorant self??
Believe me, honey, I am far from ignorant and Im just trying to educate those backward relic conservatives, trying to get them to live in the real world..Happy Days was fun to watch on TV but it is not reality..Now come on, put away your poodle skirt and move on..Democratic ideology is the future..
Ignorant? Not me.
I have done much research on stem cell research and I am definitely not ignorant.  However, from what positions I see conservatives take over the past 5 years or so, seems it is pot calling the kettle black.  Once again, a conservative just cannot debate an issue without name calling, too bad.
Ignorant? sm
There is nothing ignorant about deciding to take the candidates on face value or chosing to be positive and upbeat rather than hateful and divisive. What is ignorant is relying on these ill-informed, partisan, smutty, mud-slinging smears as the basis of chosing the leadership of our country. Anon is quite right. It boils down to satus quo versus change. Who are any of you to tell her any different? All you detractors and nay-sayers want to believe the very worst about your opposition candidates and their supporters and protest so much about how they cannot be trusted. The real dishonesty is found in these attack posts and are the least reliable of all.

Anon, you go girl! You deserve the peace that comes with being confident in your unwavering support. As for the rest of you Kamakazi posters, enjoy yourselves down there in your cesspools of hatred.
Ignorant? Really?
Who is this loser you are saying should shut up?
1. One of only 20 students in 1973 accepted into the freshman class at Julliard where he was one of 2 students (the other being Christopher Reeve) accepted into their advanced program of studies that same year.
2. Master of dialects and impersonation at Julliard.
3. Developed art of improvisation while starring on Mork and Mindy.
4. One-man-show stand-up comedian since 1978.
5. Comedy Central's #13 selection on top 100 stand-up comedians of all time.
6. Made 70 movies in the past 28 years, to include comedy, drama, animation and children's movies.
7. Received Academy Award nominations in 1988, 1989, 1991 and 2006.
8. Won the Oscar in 1998.
9. At age 32, kicked cocaine habit (25 years ago) after the death of his friend, John Belushi and the birth of his son.
10. Devotes a great deal of his time to raising money for charities through his and his wife's Windfall (philanthropic) Foundation, his favorite charity being Children's Promise.
11. Performed for USO for troops stationed in Iraq for 4 years.
12. Performed by personal invitation from Prince Charles at his 60th birthday celebration this year.

Seems like the only ignorance around here would be the kind that would express such ugly, ugly sentiments about such a brilliantly gifted talent as Robin Williams. Now THAT'S sad.
You are way ignorant.
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way ignorant

Ignorant of what?  The truth?? go give yourself a hug, get a mug of hot cocoa and grab your blankey and go to.....sleep


Ignorant is
believing you can predict the future while turning a blind eye to the past. Thanks. I will be on my merry way. I am looking forward to a kinder, gentler America, despite your best efforts to shower me with all your gloom, doom, apocalypse and armageddon. Have fun in that deep dark hole you are hunkered down in.
Boy, That Was Ignorant of You
"Christ NEVER presumed to know what the Father God was thinking."

You obviously haven't got the first clue about Christianity.


There are just as many ignorant

far right people as there are far left people.  It seems that both sides have people who can't help but say controversial things.  As for Sotamayor herself.....she is the one who made the racial comment that she would make better decisions than a white man because of her experience and being a latina woman.  I still say that if any white male had made any such racist comment, people, especially libs, would be calling for his head on a platter and he would not only lose his position but his career would be over.  There is the big difference.  It seems like minority groups are allowed to say racial things but the moment a white person does......all he!! breaks loose.


I personally feel that not only her comment was racist but for her to throw out those tests done by those firemen is both unfair and discrimination.  Every single firefighter....no matter what race they were.....were given the same materials and the same amount of time to study.  How can those tests be discriminatory towards minority groups?  It isn't like all the white folk got the information a month ahead and minority folks got only 2 days.  As far as I'm concerned, if minorities didn't score as high....they should have studied harder and they don't deserve a promotion.  To study hard, score high on the test, and be denied a promotion merely because you aren't a minority.....how is that not racist and discrimination?


Your information is so ignorant.....
of the real truth that is kind of scares me.  I am afraid that this is what the U.S. has become - a nation of ignorant lemmings who cannot read the information available and refuse to believe what has been documented over and over and over again....that we have been grievously misled by this administration.  PLEASE educate yourself, study multiple world-wide news and information sources from various political genres and THEN draw your conclusions.  And I can assure you, the conclusions may be painful and they will also be startlingly different from you currently hold to be true.
I'll take the ignorant comment
as a compliment....believe or not I do read a lot and from different perspectives.  What people like you can't stand is that some people don't take the same perspective as you.  If you want to live in a doom and gloom and defeatest mindset go ahead...you are certainly free to do so, but calling me ignorant for my perspective on the whole situation shows that you cannot accept other's views on the whole subject.  Again, where's the tolerance and understanding? 
You are beyond ignorant Libby
You are not one bit objective. You are consumed by hate. If you will look at the C-board you will see we are debating issues having to do with our president such as the Supreme Court Nominee and much to this board's generalization we've not all drank the Bush Kool-Aid. Calling us Bush groupies is grossly in error. You are sooo consumed with hate you would believe anyone but Bush....well, that tells us how far your hate has taken you.
You are an ignorant fool
They are asking for things like deodorant, foot powder, Thanksgiving and Christmas decorations, feminine items like tampons.  Shampoo, conditioner, books, stationery to write home, Christmas cards, letters.  They want letters.  With every post you define YET AGAIN over and over how little you have a clue about our military and how little your regard for them.  And you will never get any better.  You will remain the pretenders of supporting the troops. As you have always been and you will always be.  Shameless, shameful, tragic. 
Ignorant post
Your ignorance is showing big time..I suggest to all of you who do not know how to debate, take a class at your local high school or college on debating..It is obvious most of the neocons, who for whatever reason I cant imagine frequent the liberal board, do not know how to debate intelligently, logically and fairly.  When debating, you do not attack the opposite side personally, you attack the ideas put forth by the opposite side.  Yet, reading over all the neocons posts on this board, all they do is attack the poster, not the ideas suggested and put forth..It gets ugly because they attack the poster, not the ideas, which makes me shake my head in wonder, as the neocons know nothing at all about the liberal poster, yet they assume greatly.  Please,  neocons, take a class on debating or probably you could even find out the correct way to debate by searching the internet..cause these personal attacks get tiring..so tiring..
I said your statements were ignorant - not you,
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That is about the most ignorant thing

I have ever heard.  If that is truly how you feel, you are voting blindly.  This is why I fear this election.  Ignorant people voting for someone they haven't even researched just because they want change.  Well....sometimes change isn't for the better.  Granted....things suck right now but the last thing we need is a change for the worse and I believe that is what Obama will bring.  I don't like either candidate and am struggling with what to do, but I'm still researching and looking into things instead of voting blindly.  I will probably vote for McCain because I feel he is the lesser of the two evils, but I am truly not happy with either candidate. 


As for needing Dems in charge.....I know the current pres is republican but the dems have control of the congress.  I haven't seen much good out of them either.  I don't trust any politician because they are all out to line their pockets full of money while lying to the American people about the "changes" they will make in order to get elected in office and end up doing absolutely nothing they promised.


This post is entirely too ignorant
!!!!!!
You cannot possibly be that ignorant.....
Teenagers have been raising babies since the beginning of time. Only until the last few decades has it been scoffed at that a teenager should have a baby and NO, I don't encourage any young person to go that route before they finish school and hopefully go on to college or at least, find a spouse first and then have a child. In an ideal world, that is the route I would wish for them all.

But in Bristol's case, my point was, and you know it, that I doubt very seriously I will have to support her and her child. Do I want 12-even 17 year olds having babies? No, but I can GUARANTEE you because I see it in my community EVERYDAY, that if they are working to raise their own child and I mean truly out there WORKING and not sitting on their behinds letting me pay for their child, they more than likely will have learned a very valuable lesson in life about raising a child and will in all likelihood not be so fast to have another one.

But, when those teenagers who take no responsibility continue to have one child after another and they are ALL on the taxpayer's payroll, you better believe they have no business with a baby.

What business is it of yours if a teenager has a baby if you're not having to pay for it womb to whenever??

IGNORANT? I think this is over your head

Christianity is ONE faith.  In the world, of course, there are many others besides Christians that believe in God.  Are you following me? 


Christians are not the center of the world, if that is what you are implying...


BUT, the founding fathers were Christian.  That is all I am saying.


 


 


I feel sorry for the ignorant USA who is about
nm
stereotyping is ignorant

What an ignorant post
I got a news bulletin for ya, pal: The ONLY ones mooching off the the government are the ones raiding the TREASURY and while both parties have done it, the CURRENT crop of criminals hail from the GOP.

I don't believe Obama will deliver a fraction of what he promises, but MCBUSH promises more war, more enemies,more bloodshed, and more RAIDING OF THE TREASURY.

Spend a few seconds educating yourself, if you dare. I know its a LOT easier though, to just sit behind a keyboard in judgement of people YOU don't know and in whose shoes you certainly have never walked.
Are you really THAT ignorant? I'm sorry for you. Pathetic.
That is just plain prejudiced.
Now this is just plain ignorant
Of course we'll be taxed REGARDLESS of which figurehead gets put in office.

Get a clue though my friend, the REpublicans are NO friend to the average working JOE (plumber or otherwise). Do you for a New York second think the party who represents the RICH is really going to come to the aid of the middle and lower class? Give that a rest. Democrats are a hair better and that is NOTHING to brag about.

And while you 're at, how about documenting the bill in which you Obama voted to pass - so that we can read the details for ourselves. We can do our own research but if YOU are goign to make claims like this you at least have to tell us thebill in question, and WHERE you got your information.


My God. Most of America really IS ignorant
nm
not blind or ignorant
I was going to vote for O but found that I just cannot due to the abortion issue.  Do I like McCain.  NO.  So I am stuck.  But not everyone that doesnt vote for O is a racist or stupid or blind.  Just an FYI
Not willingfully ignorant...........sm
maybe just read the post a little too quickly. :o)

What about the Iraqi babies who die when their Muslim parents set car bombs and cluster bombs designed to take out as many US soldiers as necessary? What about the suicide bombers who care not who they take out as long as then can take a few Americans with them?
You're very ignorant or you would know better
There isn't any hospital system getting rich on the back of Medicare patients (the elderly). They get a small reimbursement that private insurance owners pay a lot more for. No hospital system ever got prosperous off of Medicare and Medicaid.

I don't read Fox or the others you seem to know a lot about. This is from first hand knowledge. You don't have a clue what you're talking about. If you're so worried about the prosperous hospital systems, get a brain and ask yourself if you would want those ER doors open if you or your loved ones needed an ER and then try to educate yourself on how those hospitals manage to stay open.

He is trying to reign in all healthcare under government control and has openly stated he would control drug usage by government stockpiling of drugs and letting the "government" figure out who needs the drugs more. You really want to go that way? Those determined "too" elderly will not receive certain drugs as determined by your socialist government.

You poor folks are so narrow-minded in your thinking, it never phases you that perhaps there are those who actually educate themselves and they are NOT republicans. Democrats are so stuck on republicans, they have no recourse when called out on the mat than to point fingers toward another party. What about those who aren't for either party and see what's happening. Obama has made it clear with his own two lips what he wants to do. It seems most of his continued supporters (and there are lots who have regretted voting for him)tend to immediately make slams and point fingers toward the past or ANY republican for that matter if they don't like what they see their own president doing now. It's a shame really.........
Not snooty..just ignorant
and prejudiced.
What an IGNORANT Post
I have seen some pretty ridiculous posts on here, but this one takes the cake.

I am a Democrat and am NONE of the things you seem to think we are.

My father was a veteran of every US war since WWII and is buried in Arlington National Cemetery. He fought for YOUR rights and freedom. I don't recall any of you right wingers sitting holding my hand at nights while my father was serving in the jungles of Viet Nam. Most assuredly Do NOT assume that I am a fan of Jane Fonda!!

Do not assume you know anything about me. I know nothing about you except for your narrow-minded opinion expressed for all the world to see.

Thank you for illustrating how narrow minded and hypocritical some people truly are.
I would call you ignorant, but really I think

you're just plain sub-human.


BTW, I am a Christian and your twisted idea of what Christianity is what has driven a lot of good people away from it.


I almost feel sorry for you, but I'm sure you don't have the capacity to even know what that means.


You had better do some better research. sm
Hillary, at the cost of millions of dollars from her special forces team (none of whom knew a thing about writing a health care bill, including herself) put together an over 1300 page "booklet" which was such a dismal failure, not even the democrats would get behind it.  Ted Kennedy wants socialized medicine.  Ask Canada and England what they think of socialized medicine. You really can't go around blaming republicans for everything without at least doing some research. 
did my research
Oh, I did my research and I lived through the times when President Clinton and the First Lady tried to get a universal health plan.  The republicans wanted nothing to do with it.  Socialized health care?  Better than no health care for millions of americans.  At least President Clinton got the country talking about universal health care, more than Bush has done.  All Bush has done is push his programs that benefit the rich.  Example, his tax cuts.  The rich got over 91,000 dollars in tax cuts each, the working class got 200 to 300 dollars, I didnt get anything.  Bush is a disaster and I think you need to do a bit of research. Conservative equals not wanting change.  Liberal means wanting to change and progress and move forward with new ideas, plans, bettering the country.  You conservatives are stuck in the 1940s and 1950s mentality.  Gotta tell ya, time moves on and if you dont move and grow with it, you will be left behind. It is obvious conservatism is a dying ideology, liberalism and sharing among the people of the world is the ideology of the future.
Do a little research on...
the bombings in Yugoslavia and the targeted bombings of civilians.  Secondly, one coulud make an argument (you certainly would have if GWB had been president from 1992 until 2000) that Al-Qaeda ratched up it's attacks and most certainly planned the entire 9/11 attack during Clintons administration.  From the 1993 failed WTC attack right on  through all the rest, until the end of term, one cannot even argue that Bin Laden was left unchecked and unhindered. 
Do some research
If you really care about why Jews believe life begins with the first breath, do some research, starting in the Old Testament. There is a lot of information available on the internet. I don't care to explain it all, when I really don't think you give a hoot about what I believe.

Basically, it is a matter of soul. We don't believe one has a soul until we are born and take our first breath.
Please...do the research....
even those scientists in search of grants who agree with him for that express purpose, conclude that he "might be a little off" on some things...saying that the catastrophic things he implies are imminent are MILLENIA away...that means thousands of years. Fossil fuels will be long gone by then and so will we. So...has NOTHING to do with peace.
It's you who needs to research/think
but I won't take any bets on either!

Are you really unable to follow what is meant by "MCcain voted 'with Bush'...? here's a clue: its not meant to be taken literally. MCCAIN VOTED FOR BUSH POLICIES 90% of the time. Do you still not get it?

And, my post wasn't about the DEMOCRATS - it was about McCain's voting record! But change the subject if you want...
anything but respond to the factual point(s)I made.

After you go do your research, come back and report WHETHER OR NOT McCain supported Bush's policies (voted for) anything near the 90% range...

For the record, I AM NOT A DEMOCRAT, nor do I defend them.
All you have to do is the research...
Democrats were at the top of this, Democrats passed the "reform" that was the straw that broke the camel's pack. Smoke and mirrors, deny, deny. It's all out there for anyone to see...Raines and Gorelick. Cleaned up at the American peoples' expense.
This one isn't. Research it. nm
nm
research it.....sm
I don't have time to do it for you, but all these CEOs of all these big corps that have gone under? Liberal democrats, probably all of them. Just look around for the info. It's there.

Makes me sick the way they blame George Bush and the Republicans, when it was the liberal congress getting their pockets lined to keep legislation from passing that would have kept fannie and freddie from happening, and whole boatload of other crap from happening.

Blame game...blame the republicans, when it's really yourself that caused the problem.

At least I just heard McCain finally get some kahunas and called Obama on his ties to all this.



You are SO right! I did some research on
this myself in the Journal of Socialist Affairs in America, and this was undeniably what was happening. A similar view is put forth on the unifyingamerica.org website. George Soros, Bill Rudgear, and Jonah Winston have just GOT to go!
He are a few. Do a little more research yourself instead...sm
of putting your faith in what a right-wing rag has to say. If your read all those requisitions for grants they were all for worthy causes in a poor Chicago neighborhood, children/youth/elderly programs. Because there was no oversight on how the money was spent it appears that some of the grant money that went to 1 of the organizations may have been misspent and is under investigation. This happened way back in 2000. In 2006 when Obama was no longer in the Illinois legislature, this same organization was given an additional $20,000. Do you want to blame Obama for that too? I venture to say I have done more research on the subject than you have.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/watchdogs/1184049,CST-NWS-watchdog25.article

http://www.judicialwatch.org/documents/2008/DCEO_1.pdf

http://www.illinois.gov/pressreleases/ShowPressRelease.cfm?SubjectID=3&RecNum=1378


Research is everything.......it keeps getting
Don't forget that factcheck.org is part of the Annenberg School at the University of Pennsylvania and is funded by the Annenberg Foundation that employed Obama in Chicago.


do some research
For starters, they have the highest tax in the nation (10.25, as I recall my sister telling me, who lives there).  Major militants.  Their idea of replacing a retired politician is neoptism.  I don't recall the name, but my sister was telling me about it.  They also pay big-time for car emission tests, stuff like that.  Do some research and see what you think.  After all, it's the home of Rev. Wright & Father Phleger.
Research this.....

Perhaps there are SOME out there who are beginning to get 'the picture'.
The following is a narrative taken from Sunday Morning's televised "Meet The
Press'. and the author is employed by none other than the Washington Post!!
Yeah......the Washington Post of New York and Los Angeles Times fame!! Must
say that I'm dually impressed..................


From Sunday's Televised "Meet the Press" Senator Obama was asked about his


stance on the American Flag. Obama Explains National Anthem Stance


Sun, 07 Sept. 2008 11:48:04 EST, General Bill Ginn' USAF (ret.) asked


Obama to explain why he doesn't follow protocol when the National Anthem is
played. The General also stated to the Senator that according to the United
States Code,


Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171... During rendition of the national anthem


when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform are expected
to stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. At
the very least, "Stand and Face It"
Senator Obama Live on Sunday states, "As I've said about the flag pin, I


don't want to be perceived as taking sides, Obama said. 'There are a lot of
people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression. And
the anthem itself conveysa war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in
air and all. It should be swapped for something less parochial and less
bellicose. I like the song 'I'd Like To Teach the World To Sing.' If that
were our anthem, then I might salute it."We should consider to reinvent our
National Anthem as well as to redesign our Flag to better offer our enemies
hope and love. It's my intention, if elected, to disarm America to the


level of acceptance to our Middle East Brethren. If we as a Nation of
warring people, should conduct ourselves as the nations of Islam, whereas
peace prevails. Perhaps a state or period of mutual concord between our
governments. When I become President, I will seek a pact or agreement to end
hostilities between those who have been at war or in a state of enmity, and
a freedom from disquieting oppressive thoughts. We as a Nation have placed
upon the nations of Islam anunfair injustice. My wife disre spects the Flag
for many personal reasons. Together she and I have attended several flag
burning ceremonies in the past, many years ago. She has herviews and I have
mine". Of course now, I have found myself about to become the President of
the United States and I have put aside my hatred. I will use my power to
bring CHANGE to this Nation, and offer the people a new path of hope. My
wife and I look forward to becoming our Country's First Family. Indeed,
CHANGE is about to overwhelm the United States of America.
WHAAAAAAAT the HEL**!!!


Yes, ladies and gentlemen, you heard it right. This could possibly be our


next President.I, for one, am speechless.
Dale Lindsborg, Washington Post


Maybe YOU should research it
http://www.startribune.com/local/31213379.html?elr=KArks8c7PaP3E77K_3c::D3aDhUMEaPc:E7_ec7PaP3iUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiU
Do a little research
for yourself.  I'm sure you can find a snippet on the internet somewhere.  Find it and hear whatever you want to hear or hear what was said, no concern of mine what you want to think.
Do you ever do your own research?
//
Do your research if you want
The information came from the Teamster's newsletter.  The issues and voting dates are there in the previous post.  Shouldn't be hard to verify the Wasilla Police Dept, also.
Okay, my research says -
publicly funded hospitals cannot refuse abortions, privately owned hospitals can.

Doctors and support staff can refuse to perform abortions or to assist physicians in abortions.
Thank you...I will research this a bit more
before I make a decision, but I at least don't believe that anyone placed it there to harm anyone on purpose. Unfortunately, these things do happen, even here at home, i.e., Hinkley, which is not too far from where I grew up. Not to say that it is okay, but certainly I don't think it is intentional. Just handled poorly once discovered. Thank you for your kind thoughts and wishes and, of course, I pray that my husband is not subjected to such things. I might feel differently if he were. I am with you about what military receives in return. We need a raise!!! Hope you have a Merry Christmas!