Not jobs Americans dont want to do, but cant afford
Posted By: to do cuz of low pay. (Like med. transcription). on 2008-11-14
In Reply to: Do you think that people will begin to take any job? - Amanda
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It is not that Americans won't do the jobs...
it is really that they will not do them for the wages given. Unfortunately, we expect a cheap food source, which we get. If farmers have to pay Americans to labor away in fields, they will have to pay more than they do and our food costs will go up. I am actually okay with that. Perhaps retail markup will have to go down some, as well. Coming from California, I know what kind of living conditions migrant famers live in (huge amounts of people in subpar housing, etc.) and understand that Americans WILL do the work, but only for a fair amount of pay.
I just hope Intel hires Americans to do those jobs
of what Bill Gates did when he lobbied for more foreign visas to import more foreign workers into America to work for Microsoft.
Americans have lost their minds or just dont care.
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if they can't afford their house, they should find one they can afford
and move out. End of story.
temporary jobs lead to permanent jobs -
projects are always just temporary; however, they lead to more permanent positions. Also, by the time some of these "temporary" jobs are over, the crisis should be settling down too. Do you think that rebuilding our infrastructure is going to happen in a day, week, or month?
What should we do? Tell these people who will be temporarily paid not to work for the next couple of years on these jobs because they are only temporary? That is a good idea - nobody do the temporary jobs, that way the projects will never get done and the deficit will not go up, and the economy will just continue to decline...
That's a great way to handle it!
Dear Miss Thang. If you dont like it, dont watch.
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rational to one is irrational to another..dont like it, dont read it
Rational posts? Well, maybe you would think that, however, I disagree..but, what the heck, from your continual posts attacking me over the past few months, it is obvious that we dont agree on anything. Gotta tell ya, no one chases a person from a chat board..that is a lame excuse for someone who obviously was not able to hold his/her own with the smart liberals who post on this liberal board. So gt chased her/him away. On please! If a poster is getting to you, you just ignore their posts..dont click on them..Viola! It is that easy! Or dont come on the liberal board if you do not like liberal ideology! Viola! It is that easy! So, Im here all the time am I? Well, punkin, I see your handle always on both this board and the dinosaur board..er..I mean conservative board. Is this what your debating has gotten down to? Lets count and see who is here more often? How ridiculous, how childish, how so....republican. **BIG HUG**
I dont hate Obama. I just dont see him as qualified
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You dont get it. Most dont want O to fail, they feel
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JM does think they can afford to pay
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that's probably why I can afford them
We Can't Afford Not To
Tax cuts alone will not make a dent in our worsening economic crisis. I agree that the stimulus bill had to contain some tax cuts, if only to appease the Republicans. Do you agree that the stimulus bill should've actually been bigger than what was presented?
The last eight years of tax breaks for the wealthy has shown us that it just doesn't work.
The package has to contain both short-term and long-term stimuli to be effective. For example, infrastructure investment needs to be in building bridges and railroads, etc. As it stands now, it's for fixing potholes.
You may not "like the idea of our government controlling so much," but the alternative is a depression far worse than the Great Depression, with vastly more global political unrest on top of it.
Can we really afford to wait
until November to vote on this? I don't think so. Something needs to be done now. I'm sure they will have a plan by the end of this weekend and it will be passed.
i can afford my mortage NOW
why not help those who are trying to help themselves instead of penalizing us? i would much rather see them do some sort of bailout this way rather than bailout these mortgage companies. We need to get this economy going and IMO this may be a solution. If our economy keeps going the direction it is headed, only the ones who are already sitting fat are going to be the ones not hurting. My family has been blessed. I have a good job, my husband has a good job... NOTHING IS SECURE though. Our 401k is going down, as is yours I'm sure. As I said, I would like to see a compromise that doesn't cost all tax payers major money... Let the mortgage companies take the loss.
Yes! Of course they should have done that all along - apparently now they can't afford it ...lol
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Soon, Kool-Aid may be all you can afford.
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Nope. If you can't afford it, don't buy it.
If you can't afford decent housing without relying on government housing, food stamps, etc., don't buy those cars. When the cars die, you have nothing. When you have a decent place to live that you bought with your money, that's something to fall back on.
Can't afford it. Only own 2 pair. LOL (nm)
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they can afford them over there, just not to employ
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I sure wish I could afford to buy a house right now!
Almost 1/3 of the houses in my small town that are for sale are foreclosed. They're all cute little Victorians, and I'd just LOVE to have any one of them.
if they could afford a television, they don't need a box!
the box is for older model TVs and for TVs where people don't use cable and still use an antenna.
My sister's mother-in-law's TV is 25 years old and she still uses it and still uses an antenna - she had to buy a box for her TV to pick up any stations. She would rather buy a box and use the working TV than throw it away and buy a new TV.
We couldn't afford for him NOT to run.
There is nobody else who could handle the multiple crises that President Obama is facing at this unprecedented time in our country's history.
The republican administration that has been in charge for the last 8 years practically destroyed this country from the inside out. Not to mention what he did to our internation image :-(
I, for one, am VERY glad that he decided that the country could not wait.
I dont WANT war. Dont judge me!
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It common sense - if we can afford one
Simple as that. You can twist it around as much as you want, but the truth is the money is there, and it is just about priorities. I am not trying to personally attack you. I have not resorted to childish name calling or anything like that, I just think your view is warped, and you obviously think my view is wrong, and we will obviously never agree on this issue.
What they couldn't afford was buying
that had no true value, and when the housing bubble burst, they were left holding worthless paper.
Ah, but will you be able to afford the electric bill?
I don't know about your utility bills, but ours are going through the roof lately.
Can't be too bad...you can afford a good Internet connection. sm
I have my doubts as to whether all your meals are hot dogs and mac and cheese, but I could be wrong....
....and there is work out there. You don't have to just sit there and let it dry up. And don't blame the 8 yrs of republicans. The last two years of democratic ruled Congress has been worse than the previous six before that.
You think you have it bad now.
Just wait till dems are in control of everything.
You'll have less than nothing, and have to give it away to others less unfortunate than yourself. However are you going to be able to afford that?
I STILL can't afford ten bucks for a loaf of bread...lol...not really lol..but ya know
If bridge builders cannot afford the cost........ sm
of a movie ticket, then what good does it do to provide/create more jobs in that genre?
Folks are hurting and they can't afford their own homes, much less movie tickets and popcorn. I say let the movie industry take a little pay cut here and there and bring their multimillion dollar projects down to a more reasonable figure and bring the films in under budget.
Wont matter much - who can afford to drive
Price of gas will be back to $4/gal. - and THEN some - by next summer. Oil co. CEOs are as bad as the Wall-Street $$-ho's.
The issue is really about the tax payers who cannot afford healthcare - sm
Many of them do end up on public assistance due to health issues after having gone for many years without healthcare.
I refuse to forget history...can't afford to be "condemned to repeat it"
He created this cluster with his cronies and they should be held accountable.
Republicans favor giving poor families subsidies to afford private schools. Obama opposed.
Yet Obama sends his daughters to a private school, 29,000 for EACH KID. Hypocrisy, here we come. Geesh, not even in office yet.
jobs
my husband has been a carpenter and self-employed since he was fresh out of school. after 20 years he had no job, no work anywhere. he had to go take a job at a store making less than half of what he used to make. now they are saying they may be laying him off and he hasnt been there long enough to collect unemployment. I cant imagine things getting worse, but I fear they are going to.
Not me, I have 3 jobs, thank you. Why?
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JOBS
Maybe Obama is thinking these jobs will last until he is out of office, and then when the jobs are finished, and people are out of work, he can say, see what happened when I was no longer in office.
Well of course Obama wants to keep jobs in the USA. Here is why.
Do you want $8,500 of your dollars to fund the Useless Nations? I know I don't.
Barack Hussein Obama has a legislative record in the Senate and one of his proudest accomplishments is The Global Poverty Act (S. 2433).
Barack Hussein Obama's Global Poverty Act will commit us to a stealth United Nations-inspired global tax of $845 Billion dollars... that comes to approximately an $8500.00 tax burden for every household in the United States!
Cliff Kincaid of Accuracy in Media wrote:
"[T]he legislation, if approved, dedicates 0.7 percent of the U.S. gross national product to foreign aid, which... would amount to $845 billion 'over and above what the U.S. already spends.'"
"The plan passed the House in 2007 'because most members didn't realize what was in it.' Congressional sponsors have been careful not to calculate the amount of foreign aid spending that it would require."
The United Nation's actual record on ending pain and suffering around the world is pathetic and dismal.
Here is the link, check it out for yourselves before you flame me. I am sure I am not the only one who is worried about what will happen when/if he gets into office.
ExposeObama.com
I've had jobs since the day I was old enough to
even though there were times I could barely scrape together 2 cents to buy something I or my family needed. Yes, jobs are pretty easy to get, if you don't think you're "above" working at a gas station, McDonald's - whatever it takes. There are plenty of people who use social programs in lieu of finding a job. I see it all the time. They milk the system, if you don't admit that, you're in denial. I don't believe for one minute that the hard-working people in the country that make decent money should have to pay for these people. I have no problem with programs for those who truly need it, but if you were truly to examine most of the recipients of these programs, a good lot of them are abusing it. I worked in a law office where I saw this and I worked in medical offices where I saw this. The sad reality is that those who milk the system are darn good at it and REAP the benefits, but the people who truly need welfare, disability, etc., fight for sometimes YEARS and never receive benefits.
I think it's highly tacky of you to insinuate that the only way Whoopie could've attained her success is by using social programs. That is a borderline racist remark, IMO. Would you say that about a successful white actress? Hmmmph.
Just WHO do you think does provide jobs?
the middle class?
how to figure out which jobs are on their way out
Anything that requires a loan: houses, cars, trade schools, university of Phoenix type schools, shopping malls, vacations and travel, elective surgeries or cosmetic dental lasik surgeries, etc.
Jobs that will increase:
Anything that helps America:
Teachers, nurses, geologists, scientists, infrastructure, power grids, alternative energy, solar.
how it affects our jobs
It will affect us if the automakers fail because it is estimated that upwards of 6 million, and some estimates are as high as 10-12 million, people could potentially face unemployment. That is those working for the big 3 as well as those who supply them and those who work for business that all of these people utilize. 6 million is a lot of people now without health benefits and paychecks. Obviously, that will have an impact of numbers of doctor and hospital visits.
Green jobs.......... sm
would take quite a bit of time to implement as it would take time to build the utility facilities, not to mention retrofitting households to use green energy. I don't think this is a viable short-term plan to help our country, although I do see a benefit from it long-term. However, in creating green jobs and bankrupting the coal industry like he said he would that creates yet another situation where people will be jobless and not paying taxes. With a good portion of our electric energy coming from the coal industry, this number could be significant enough to offset any benefit obtained with green energy and green jobs.
We are in a financial crisis and I don't see that there is anyway out of it (unless they yank that Golden Fleece) without immediate tax increases on all tax-paying Americans.
Like I said, a plan is just a plan and even with a Democratic Senate, I don't foresee his tax plans coming to fruition in the near future.
You nut jobs can have this place
Keep on ranting about the stupid b/c like as if you are smarter than Hillary and McCain. If there'd been even a SNIFF of wrongdoing in the b/c, they would have drug it out and already drug it through the mud. Personally I don't think a lot of the nut jobs who hang out here are even MTs. I think they are professional political pot stirers!!!
They are bragging about 3M jobs
being created. Guess what DH reminded me of? There are millions more unemployed than the 3M (he said 10M, but I'm not sure on that), plus most of these jobs will not happen until 2011. How's that going to help?
I'm serious. That will leave 7M still on the unemployment rolls. We are really in for a long haul here. Thank heavens I don't live in a city. At least we can grow our own food.
You know if they want to create jobs
why aren't we drilling for oil? Why aren't we getting wind farms going? If our government would take more money to look into alternative fuels, not only would that stop our dependency on foreign oil but we will need workers to maintain those things, etc. Those will be jobs that will last. It won't be like construction work like Obama wants. Once the roads are repaired and bridges fixed, etc....then what? I just think we are going in the wrong direction and I just don't understand why. We need to tap our resources with offshore drilling. We need to drill Alaska. While we are doing that, we need to look for alternatives to oil. The sooner they do that, the sooner car companies can make environmentally safer cars and vehicles. I mean....come on.
I read somewhere that most of the jobs
won't get up and running until 2010 or 2011. It takes time. Everything takes time, and so, in the meantime, we have to go it on our own. It's sink or swim right now.
Particularly the construction jobs.
Those often take at least two years of planning, getting bids, getting materials and getting started. Not very helpful right now. I think everyone on the Hill has totally lost any connection with the real world.
From my understanding, the jobs
created would only be temporary. Don't forget, road and bridge construction only lasts in the summer in the northern states, and when those road and bridge jobs are done, what's next?
The money being doled out for infrastructure is definitely not enough. There are many, many roads and bridges that have to be built/rebuilt in the country and any one of them would cost $1 million and up. PA is getting $2.7M for roads. Is that going to take care of the roads? Doubt it. Headlines recenty in our paper stated PA was going to get $6B. I checked the charts and don't see where he gets that figure.
Jobs going overseas
I forgot to mention - as MSMT said in her post titled "It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what's wrong with the economy" - it stated on yahoo was an article about the layoffs at Dell in Austin.
"Everyone in the room was fired, their jobs shipped overseas".
That's one instance.
I'm taking an online course and 6 students wrote in stating they need to get retrained because they just lost their jobs within the last month. Their job went overseas.
But think of the ''green'' jobs
created by the new technology. Someone will have to develop a ''fartometer'' to measure the bovine emissions. Each cow will be fitted with one by a trained technician. Somebody will have to monitor the readings. Somebody else will have to compile the data. And there will need to be a billing department to calculate the ''gas tax'' due. Surely there will be a place in this new bureaucracy for displaced MTs? (Unless the readings are remotely transmitted to Pakistan...)
Every group has their nut jobs.
You cannot group all conservatives into that category especially since there are just as many nut jobs on the liberal side. Get over yourself and give me a break!
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