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Not to mention s/m

Posted By: gourdpainter on 2008-10-10
In Reply to: Yep, we're already doing that..... - don't ya know.........sm

Not to mention the half mil or so those execs spent on a luxury vacation just hours after they got the bail-out money.  This is INSANE.  I think to a large degree things are playing out just as dubya and his side-kick Cheney had planned.  Those two, in my humble opinion, are a couple of EVIL men.


I say no bail out for anyone.  What's done is done.  The idiots in Washington need to SHUT UP and in particular, the sensation-seeking talk shows need to also SHUT UP.  They all need to start talking about bringing jobs back to AMERICA and if there was no demand for credit from consumers, there would be no credit crunch.  Live without your means.  If you bought a $100,000 house you couldn't afford and it's now worth $50,000, tough toenails!  People who bought into the "home equity line of credit" BS deserve what they got.  I don't believe I would care to subsidize their stupidity.  Now it's about the seniors, TV ads for reverse mortgages for them.  Seniors who buy into that garbage, I'd like to sell them the Garden of Eden!!!!! 


I don't know the answer to immediately get rid of all these bums in the government.  I wish we could have a general election and fire every single one of them....DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICAN!!!!


With that I'm off to cook the trout we caught this morning.




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well now that you mention it....sm
Once Foley gets out of rehab, he should go back to his old position over the Missing and
Exploited Children Caucus just to be fair.

And since Studd had a 17-year-old page boyfriend 23 years ago, how dare anyone mention what Foley was doing online. Hassart and the rest of you interested republicans should continue to minimize Foley's actions and play partisan politics (even though this is no political matter and I don't look at it as such). Just so you know, it doesn't look good on you. Daniel Crane (republican, also having an affair with a 17-year-old page back in 1983) didn't resign either - he was voted out. I don't know how or why Studd continued be voted in, but he should have stepped down.

Frank and Clinton were dealing with adults, so I look at their situations completely different. And talk about outrage and hypocrisy, look at the people who were probing Clinton with their own hands in the cookie jar (or should I say intern jar). Still much different than pedophilia.
Now that you mention it
You totally missed the part where I said they were all wrong. They were ALL wrong. Studd did have an underage page boyfriend, physical sex with an underage boy and BRAGGED about it. Foley had internet sex and at least had the good sense to be ashamed of it instead of holding a press conference to DEFEND his behavior, or like Frank, throw out his gay roommate who was running a sex trade out of his apartment (I swear I didn't know he was doing that...YEAH RIGHT). You also glossed over the fact that Clinton, while in office, after an oath to uphold the laws of the United States, lied his rear off on TV in front of ALL of us on national television...this is not disputed, the man committed perjury. And somehow you excuse that kind of behavior, but want Foley's head on a platter? Yeah, that makes real good sense. Inever defended Foley; I don't care what party he is in, what he did was WRONG. I don't care what party Bill Clinton was in, what he did was WRONG. Studd was WRONG. Barney Frank was WRONG. All equally WRONG. I doubt if all the boys Frank's roommate was running through his apartment as prostitutes were all adults. Monica Lewinsky was 21...barely legal. So that somehow makes it okay for Bill to cheat on his wife in the White House and then commit perjury. Yeah, that makes perfect sense (in YOUR world maybe). You proved my hipocrisy point by saying you look Frank and Clinton completely different. I said they were ALL wrong. You continue to say what Foley did was somehow worse. At least he kept his perversion on line and his hands off... not like Clinton and Studd. Get a grip. They are ALL wrong. Mark Foley did not do what he did because he was a Republican; Clinton, Studd, and Frank did not do what they did because they are Democrats. They are all morally corrupt. Period, end of sentence.
not to mention all the

lobbyists on McCain's staff.


 


What about it? Do you see any mention of O or B
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There has been a lot of mention

of God being involved in this election.  I do think that God will be involved in this election.  However, our country has pushed Him out of our lives so much that it wouldn't surprise me if He let us fall flat on our faces.  I hate to say that, but you can't pray in schools.  People don't want to say the pledge to the flag because of His name being mentioned.  The 10 commandments are being removed from court houses.  Seriously....what have we become?  I understand the concept of keeping  church and state separate but it seems more to me like we are removing Him totally and that upsets me.  The mere mention of him by a candidate, particularly a repubican one, gets people in an uproar about religious fanatics and Bible thumpers, etc.  It is just sad. 


I hope that we pick the candidate who will get us out of this crisis, but maybe that just isn't in His plans.  Whatever may happen, I just pray that God gives us the strength to take on any challenge that may face us....because let's face it people....we are going to have major challenges if either candidate is president.


Not to mention, it's
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You know, now that you mention it, I
is going to vote for, after all he doesn't think Obama has enough experience and he thinks McCain does, and he would be glad to run on a ticket anytime with McCain. Has he ever retracted those statements? Hillary said McCain has 30+ yrs of experience and Obama has a speech he made in 2000. Does she still stand by that statement, you betcha!
Sorry, I did not see any mention

WASHINGTON -- A Republican congressman from Georgia said Monday he fears that President-elect Obama will establish a Gestapo-like security force to impose a Marxist or fascist dictatorship.


"It may sound a bit crazy and off base, but the thing is, he's the one who proposed this national security force," Rep. Paul Broun said of Obama in an interview Monday with The Associated Press. "I'm just trying to bring attention to the fact that we may -- may not, I hope not -- but we may have a problem with that type of philosophy of radical socialism or Marxism."


Broun cited a July speech by Obama that has circulated on the Internet in which the then-Democratic presidential candidate called for a civilian force to take some of the national security burden off the military.


"That's exactly what Hitler did in Nazi Germany and it's exactly what the Soviet Union did," Broun said. "When he's proposing to have a national security force that's answering to him, that is as strong as the U.S. military, he's showing me signs of being Marxist."


Obama's comments about a national security force came during a speech in Colorado about building a new civil service corps. Among other things, he called for expanding the nation's foreign service and doubling the size of the Peace Corps "to renew our diplomacy."


"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set," Obama said in July. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."


Broun said he also believes Obama likely will move to ban gun ownership if he does build a national police force.


Obama has said he respects the Second Amendment right to bear arms and favors "common sense" gun laws. Gun rights advocates interpret that as meaning he'll at least enact curbs on ownership of assault weapons and concealed weapons. As an Illinois state lawmaker, Obama supported a ban on semiautomatic weapons and tighter restrictions on firearms generally.


"We can't be lulled into complacency," Broun said. "You have to remember that Adolf Hitler was elected in a democratic Germany. I'm not comparing him to Adolf Hitler. What I'm saying is there is the potential."


Obama's transition office did not respond immediately to Broun's remarks.


I don't see mention........... sm
of pilots being laid off, only that some of the leased jets are being returned to the leasing company. Apparently, they are retaining some of the jets and will therefore need pilots for them. My personal opinion is that ALL company jets should be returned as a part of their cost-cutting measures. SEVEN jets for 1 company seems just a little ridiculous. The pilots, though, will likely be able to find work with one of the major airlines if all the jets are returned.
Not to mention all of the
blatantly broken promises from the president.  The man who is actually the commander and chief of our country and they want to spend time talking about a teenager who got knocked up.  I guess it doesn't matter that Obama obviously bowed to the Saudi King and then turned around and lied about it and said he only leaned forward because the man was short.  Well....I do believe the queen is about as short as they come and I didn't see him bowing to the queen.  But hey....why focus on lies made by the president or the amount of money that he and his administration are spending when we could focus on important issues like Sarah Palin's daughter.  I guess as long as we drink the kool-aid and focus on the important issues we will truly hsee ow great Obama the all powerful really is.
i wish she would mention that little point
running to polls and voting for her.
Did I mention at any time anything about
SP pregnant child? At all? Anywhere? You keep injecting her into the conversation, a conversation where she was never mentioned, has nothing to do with her, or with any other politician really, but you get after everyone else for bringing up the fact that SP daughter is pregnant. How can we let it rest if you keep bringing it into the coversation.

I am an independent and it does bear looking at, but the whole article was just ridiculous to me. If someone is going to say that someone follows a communist give me something more substantial than rallies and cheers, etc.
I do believe you just insulted me....not to mention...sm
my husband.

Be that as it may, I come to expect it of certain posters on this board.


If you can't understand it, then I can't explain it to you. You'll only call me worse names, so why should I bother?


I believe I was the first one to mention Alinsky...
and actually, Obama is the expert...he taught the Alinsky method and used it in his community organizing for years. You can educate yourself if you choose to, or you can repeat democratic talking points and post criticizing others instead of valid points. Up to you...but it appears which road you have chosen.
Exactly, and the sources you mention actually...
back up their facts that are easily checked, not just commentary or their personal spin on things. THAT is what people need to look at. Even if they are watching those other things, when they hear something, don't take it at face value. Research it, look for facts, not statements. Trust YOURSELF.
Why don't you ever mention the other 4 in the Keating 5 were....
Democrats? Three of whom were much more than "rebuked." The Keating 5 was a small part of the article. The lead with the pic of the "indicted" guy has been refuted...and Obama also has an "indicted" friend..Rezko. But you did not bring that up either.
Forgot to mention.
Also the show last night stated that Obama keeps saying we are going to CHANGE and people chant, YES WE CAN.  What is this change?  Anybody know?  Because O'Reilly Factor and everyone else want to know what this CHANGE is.  Obama inspires us, but for what?  What is this CHANGE he is going to do?   
PS. I fogot to mention
We'd be perfectly fine with their sabotage of our economy, aggressive advancement into our camps for further residential land-grabbing takeovers and a blockade of food, medical supplies, fuel and money. No, we wouldn't raise a finger, now would we?
Of course, you forgot to mention, the
the other fair and balanced reporters.
Forgot to mention...

our school districts are allowed to appeal the tax assessments. The district I live in has taken just about everybody to court on appeal. A home assessed at $41,000 and sold for twice that is taken to court as soon as they find out...which they can do because all deeds are posted in the newspaper plus our county put all the properties on line along with the history of who owned the home before at what price and what it sold to the next person and the amount.


 


I never saw him mention an MT as being unskilled -
I don't think he necessarily meant every job that is shipped overseas is an unskilled worker job. However, that being said, most people do not think that MTs are "skilled" and think of it as only a typing job. You have to educate if you want people to know the skill that is required for this job.

I, however, choose to look on the bright side and have hope that something is going to change very soon. Now, I don't believe that just brining our jobs home from India is going to save us from ruin, as we still have the VR programs, but at least it won't be a foreign country ruining us!
Forgot to mention......... sm
the landowner also benefits from rise in gas/oil prices as they are paid more on their royalties when thep price per barrel goes up. I've watched my mom's royalty check yo-yo over the years. We currently have another piece of land leased for drilling but so far nothing has been drilled on it or near enough for us to be in a unit. Now that prices have picked up a bit, it might be possible that drilling in our area might increase.
In the scenario that you mention

using Hitler....Hitler was the terrorist.  The Nazis were the terrorists.  They were exterminating the Jews because of race.  They had no other reason other than they didn't like them.


You cannot compare what we are doing to what Hitler did.  The rendition and the assassination of key terrorist members saves innocent lives where Hitler did nothing but destroy innocent lives.


I do not see us lining up all Muslims and exterminating them, sending them to concentration camps, etc.  We are going after extremists who would love nothing more than to exterminate us. 


I highly doubt that if we were taken over by terrorists or you were in a building that they were planning on bombing....the fact that you disagree with our treatment towards terrorist prisoners will mean absolutely nothing to them.  They will still blow you up or cut your head off.  These are not people that you can talk to civilly or change their mind.  They are on a mission to exterminate infidels....that includes you and me and our family and friends.  So seriously....think about that the next time you want to set them free or be nice to them.


Not to mention they have talked about
how obese people pollute more.  Soon if you are overweight, you will be taxed for any extra pounds you have.  If you are a farmer and have cows, you will be taxed for how much poo they crap out and how much they fart.  It is getting ridiculous.  Soon they will be taxing you if you sneeze.  Taxes and taxes and more taxes and what does are government do.....spend spend spend.
Did someone mention anger control....

All the people you mention have slants
the fact most journalists do. Just because you don't like Drudge's slant....which I don't get your point because Drudge mostly just posts headlines. He does have a radio show, but on his website he posts mostly headlines...
Now that you mention it....here are links to get you started.
Ignore it if you like...but you know, the duck thing...if it quacks like a duck.

All of these things can be independently verified. The policies that he is proposing are socialism 101...redistribution of wealth. The "people" of Cuba has not done so well after the Castro/Che Guevara revolution, now have they?

http://politicalcenter.newsvine.com/_news/2008/05/04/1466498-obamas-marxist-revolution-must-be-rejected-

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/07/what_barack_obama_learned_from.html

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-international-socialist-connections

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/08/31/america/France-Socialists-Obama.php

http://www.acton.org/commentary/443_marxist_roots_of_black_liberation_theology.php

http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2008/08/michelle_obama_4.php

http://www.tysknews.com/Articles/dnc_corruption.htm

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=75101


Funny you should mention Enron....
and Ken Lay. Remember how that saturated the news for weeks and months...because he had Republican connections. We are in the midst of the worst financial crisis this country has faced since the depression, Democrats are up to their eyeballs in it, and do you see ANYTHING in the media about it? Folks, we should be very AFRAID of how these folks conspire to keep the bad Dem news off the air but fall all over themselves to get the bad Repub news on...the LAST thing we need right now is Obama in the white house. The very LAST thing.
I forgot to mention about the lyrics
Some of the lyrics (the whole song is too long to write the whole thing here, but these are some of the most disturbing lines in the song....We're gonna change the world. Obama's gonna lead em. We're gonna change it, and rearrange it. Nations all joined as one.

Yup I'd say Obama wants a one world government with him as the over-seer. Not as creepy as the kids singing, but pretty darn close.
Did I mention Obama anywhere in that post?
can you even have a thought without him in it??
Am I getting senile? Did I mention coal? LOL
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Didn't they mention something about a loan
I was watching Bill O'Reilly with my husband last night, and I thought they mentioned giving them a loan that has to be paid back rather than a bailout, or is that the same thing?
Not to mention...how about a 25,000 year warning?....sm
The Mayan calendar ends on December 21, 2012.....the year Obama's term as president, will be nearing its end....


http://www.adishakti.org/mayan_end_times_prophecy_12-21-2012.htm


I remember studying Revelations in bible school when I was a teenager....scared the you know whatsits outta me....


I'm also wondering about Nostradamus for the future, as well.....
Ummm, let's see here. You mention Obama
in the first and third person 9 times in a 12-line post and the word "timing" is completely absent. What in the world was JTBB thinking?

Your expansion on the OP is not terribly coherent either. If Israel were neutered by a sudden absence of funding, it certainly would affect the future of our nation, but not in the ways you would like to suggest. Israel would be standing ALL ALONE and would not be able to support this ungodly occupation for even 5 more minutes. The US would almost instantly regain some sort of respect and standing and all sorts of diplomatic channels would open up. A more intelligent, thoughtful and productive dialog would ensue and communication would normalize between the US, it allies AND its foes. Mutually beneficial solutions would be sought, a shameful past buried and a much brighter future would emerge.

You are wrong, wrong, wrong to suggest that the Palestinians are not entitled to be freed from the prisons of occupation and live in dignity on the land they have populated over the past 14 milleniums. If Israel ALWAYS prevails, please tell me why they are armed to the teeth, live in fear and cannot accomplish the tiniest hint of national security? Last time I looked, no matter what Israel tries to do, the Palestinians are STILL in Palestine. They are the ones who are not going anywhere.
Not to mention the money we borrowed
from China for the bailout...heaven help us if they decide they want all their money back at some point in time.
Oh, forgot to mention that the 2 screens you
Senators and Representative screens are up near the top or top right of screen. I did not bother to fully read the whole page.
You fail to mention the fact.......
that the dems aren't going after the Bush administration for war crimes - proven war crimes. War crimes our country has executed people for in the past.
Geneva convention? What's that?
I saw no mention of party affiliation....
but then again, the news just posted sound bytes and not the entire meeting. So that woman was the only one who got to speak? I doubt it. And good for that family to help that woman out with their extra vacant house!
Funny you should mention dim bulbs
That's all we will be allowed to use pretty soon, Algore says so!
Not to mention the millions they employ for...

...slave wages overseas (you know, like MTSOs do.)


I don't understand why you condone corporate welfare/tax cheaters.  Not surprised -- just don't understand.


You forgot to mention that he is the "superpresident" now
You probably could have also put in something about fear-mongoring and chicken little type, but other than that, it was a very good post!

Nice of you to save the others the time and energy! =)
You forgot to mention that he is the "superpresident" now
You probably could have also put in something about fear-mongoring and chicken little type, but other than that, it was a very good post!

Nice of you to save the others the time and energy! =)
You forgot to mention FDR, Kennedy and Eisenhower, to name a few...
....who had their own sleazy affairs to hide.  What is the obsession with Clinton?
Not to mention, THE PEOPLE vote for these laws and
People vote to place ridiculous bans on things because they saw on the news that a so-called scientific study told them it's for the good of all. Don't bother to trace back to who paid for that study and who will reap the rewards of the ban. My oh my, they said it's for the good of the people, so therefore, I shall vote as they instruct. The latest? They've now banned fast food restaurants in California because they apparently feel that poor people can't make good health choices. What an insult! If people are that poor, they probably can't afford fast food anyway because fast food ain't all exactly cheap these days.

But you go right on blaming the Democrats or the Republicans or whichever group you see fit. The vote still lays in the hands of the people of this country. The more I see so many Democrats here acting like everyone is a complete moron for having any kind of opposing view and touting every single thing a Democrat does as the holy grail, the more I feel like moving to another country. Wake up! If you can't admit that even Democrats make mistakes and aren't saviors, then you are prejudiced.
Then why didn't you mention White Supremists?
You posted that we'd all better watch out for BLACK POWER if Obama loses, yet you didn't say watch out for WHITE SUPREMISTS if Obama wins! That, my dear, whether you choose to acknoweldge it or not, is racist! Deal with it!
I don't mention them because they aren't running for president. s/m

care to comment on this:


http://mccainkeatingfive.com/?page_id=22


No kidding. Aticle did not mention 1,900% beer tax
Outrage brewing over proposed 1,900% beer tax hike

Lawmakers say tax will help budget; brewers warn of lost jobs

02:02 PM PST on Monday, February 16, 2009

By ERIC ADAMS, kgw.com Staff

PORTLAND, Ore. -- Five Oregon state lawmakers want to impose a hefty tax on beer and have introduced a bill that brewers say would cripple them.
Video: Brewers hopping mad over tax

1900% beer tax proposed

Deschutes makes Oregon 150 brew

Four Portland legislators joined a Springfield senator to introduce Oregon House Bill 2461, which would impose a $49.61 tax on each barrel of beer produced by Oregon brewers.

The tax would raise revenue for the state at a time when budgets are running in the red. Specifically, the bill says it would fund prevention, treatment and recovery programs for those addicted to alcohol and other substances.

The bill's language defends the tax by arguing alcoholism and “untreated substance abuse” costs the state $4.15 billion in lost earnings as well as more than $8 million for health care and nearly $1 billion in law enforcement-related expenditures.

Oregon ranks 49th among states in its malt beverage taxation rate, which has not been raised in 32 years, according to HB 2461.

Brewers hopping mad over tax

Brewers say Oregon's low beverage taxation rate is what makes the state such an attractive place for crafting beers. The state’s brewery guild claims it would also amount to the single largest beer tax hike in the nation's history.

Laurelwood Public House & Brewing Co. owner Mike DE Kalb said the tax may sound like a good idea in this economic climate, but he believes it would cost jobs and not raise enough new tax revenue to justify the increase.

“We’re a family-owned, local Portland business. We don’t want to see something cost taxpayers more than the revenue it would bring in,” De Kalb said.

De Kalb said Oregon would potentially lose its prominence as a craft-brew destination and that some small breweries could potentially go out of business. He said Laurelwood could possibly face job cuts as well. Prior versions of the beer tax bill have exempted small breweries but this one does not, he added.

$1.50 more, or just 15 cents?

“If that tax is passed it would mean consumers would pay $315 million more (in 2009) to buy the same amount of beer they bought in 2008," De Kalb claimed. "A pint of beer would go from $4.50 to $6.”

Rep. Ben Cannon, one of the bill's sponsors, questions whether the true hit to consumers would be as high as beer makers claim. He told KGW his office measured the increase at 15 cents per glass not $1.50.

But Kurt Widmer of Widmer brewing told KGW that in order to keep profit margins constant, he'd increase his price to distributors, who in turn would likely increase prices to retailers, making the 15 cent per class estimate unrealistic.

House Bill 2461 has been introduced by Portland Reps. Ben Cannon and Michael Dembrow, Portland Sens. Jackie Dingfelder and Diane Rosenbaum, and Springfield Sen. William Morrisette.

Not to mention overflowing their airline seats
I say, tax fatness, too.
Thanks. Was going to mention there's a special "monitor" board for reports.
Hope it works!!
Lots of confirmation of the talking points you mention.

Especially the inevitability of New Orleans. You can research the local papers and find articles that go back years. The funding to research and fix this has been the last 3 years W. has been in office. That is a fact. The Army Corps of Engineers chief quit in disgust over this issue some time ago and the former FEMA chairman was fired; the one who got things done, by the Bush administration..I don't know why.  Our leadership is lacking. We need a leader. We need someone to step up to the plate and start the ball rolling; to date, doctors, nurses, entertainers, basketball players and ordinary everyday people with some necessary skills have been on the ground working in a haphazard manner because there is no leadership. Bush 41 and Clinton have started their tsunami crusade a la New Orleans and I have to tell you, the both of them sitting on my TV screen asking for money, were more believable, more compassionate than anything we have seen from the WH. A lot of defensive people up there. Why doesn't someone lead. As the mayor of New Orleans said, Washington sent one John Wayne guy down there and he is evidently kicking butt, getting things done. Where are the leaders???


 


Not to mention, Chavez blasting the US over Iraq on the floor of the UN...nm
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