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Now we'll see if the justice system REALLY ..

Posted By: works on 2005-07-02
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    OT but this is justice LOL sm


    Would this justice be able to separate

    her religious views from legal views?  Apparently NOT, if, during this secret conference call, a very select few Americans were privy to the information that, in fact, she WOULD overturn Roe v. Wade because of her religious beliefs.


    If religion can't be a reason to exclude someone from the bench, it likewise can't be used as a reason to INCLUDE someone on the bench, as Bush attempted to do as a way to reassure his base *wink, wink, nod, nod* that they shouldn't worry, *She's one of US.*


    That's only one troubling aspect of her nomination, though.  Even Robert Bork *borked* her, saying she is a *disaster* and that she was a terrible writer.


    The fact that she's judged Bush to be the most *brilliant* man she's ever met casts even further doubt about her ability to *judge* (but I admit that's an extension of my personal opinion and doesn't really count).


    John Roberts is reported to be a very devout Catholic, yet nobody raised an eyebrow about that because his religion was never an issue.  Bush himself MADE it an issue.


    Can you name me even ONE evangelical who would NOT vote to overturn Roe? 


    It's becoming clearer and clearer every day that this woman was nominated (1) because she's a Bush crony and (2) because she will guarantee that Roe will be overturned based on her own personal beliefs, not based on established legal precedent.


    actually the justice screwed up
    The Justice screwed up the wording of the oath, putting the word faithfully in the wrong place. If you looked at Obama, you can see he has a look of surprise on his face, and I think that is what threw him off. I think he knew the oath and was a little bewildered when the justice said it wrong.
    Oh sure, blame it on the justice.
    to finish is sentence for the O to repeat it. Gee whiz. Blame Bush for everything and now blame other people instead of O?
    Actually, blinded by the need for truth and justice.

    You know, the laws this country was founded on.  Tell me where it's written that our troops fight overseas and are killed for a corrupt president who LIES?????  They are fighting for oil and power, not our safety.  And we're supposed to just pretend it isn't so?  Even Colin Powell can't remain silent about Bush's treachery. 


    Every justice has their own affiliations and leanings

    Ruth Bader Ginsberg is a card carrying member of the ACLU with all it's wackiness.


    It's only when a conservative is nominated that they better not have affiliations with anything *gasp* religious or conservative leaning.


    Not buying that double standard.  Nice try though...


    SOS, justice lifetime term. nm
    x
    right on, it is about justice, not about taking sides!...nm
    nm
    also, Obama did not flub the oath - the justice did - nm
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    Obama's Justice: Reconciliation, Not Retribution

    by: Cynthia Boaz, t r u t h o u t | Perspective


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    President Barack Obama. (Photo: Gerald Herbert / AP)



        In the wake of Sen. Patrick Leahy's (somewhat) surprising and determined call for a Truth Commission to investigate the abuses of the Bush-Cheney administration, the Obama administration has been - to many progressives and those on the left of center - disturbingly silent. It's safe to say that the president's less-than-forceful position on the issue has been a source of intense criticism and skepticism from the left about the president's sincerity regarding his claims to promote a new era of transparency and accountability in American politics.


        These concerns reflect a fundamental misunderstanding of the president's perspective as well as his role. A Truth Commission is a serious matter. In societies overcoming severe oppression or wrongdoing, Truth (or Truth and Reconciliation) Commissions can serve a critical role in healing the wounds wrought by the injustices and can promote much-needed trust, goodwill and reconciliation between the various parties. Peru, South Africa, Morocco and East Timor are just a few of the places where TRCs have helped their societies heal and have facilitated reform by acknowledging past wrongs and ensuring that the horrors of history will not be repeated.


        Night after night, on radio talk shows, disgruntled, self-identified progressives call in to inform the host and her audience that we (the American people) can - in fact - "walk and chew gum at the same time" (a response to the argument on the part of some Obama defenders that now - in the midst of the worst economic crisis in decades - is simply not the right time to focus our energies on a task of this magnitude - that such an effort would be an irresponsible distraction). Those folks, many of whom, frankly, invoke images of villagers wielding torches and pitchforks, are sadly missing the point.


        For starters, the Obama administration has taken as its primary goal the mission of reconciliation, not retribution. Although his efforts have been thus far frustrated by a small but dogmatic segment of the Republican Party, Obama is, in the truest sense, a unifier. It is simply not the style - politically or personally - of this president to seek the same sort of "justice" desired by the pitchfork-wielding villagers. In the mind of this president (I imagine, anyway) emphasis on punishing wrongdoers runs the risk - especially in this very politically contentious climate - of only promoting divisions and inflaming precisely the wrong emotions necessary for a culture of healing - namely, anger, hostility and the desire for vengeance. To wit: one caller to a progressive radio show stated (apparently oblivious to the irony) that "Bush should be publicly shamed." Surely this person - and others like him - do not seriously believe that the appropriate response to the culture of impunity we've been subject to for the past eight years is the subsequent creation of a culture of retribution.


        This is not to say that the president does not hold a high regard for the rule of law, or that Bush and the others should not be held accountable for their misdeeds - which in some cases, appear to rise to the level of crimes against humanity. To the contrary - and this brings me to my second point - the rule of law can only truly be applied in an environment that is as independent from political motive as possible. If Obama were to come out openly advocating the seeking of legal retribution for the crimes of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and the others, it could not but be regarded (accurately, in my view) as a political maneuver. Such an event would degrade the president's legitimacy by rendering his tactics no better than those of the people he would seek to prosecute. While the president certainly can (and should) not hinder the prosecution of his predecessor and his administration should another state (who can use the ICC) or entity (such as an organized group wishing to file a class-action suit against the previous administration for harm to the group as a whole - e.g. taxpayers organization, veterans groups, etc.), it is not the job of the president himself to seek such "justice." Directly punishing their predecessors is something done by tyrants in authoritarian regimes, not by legitimate, democratic leaders in an open society. This is why it was the widely revered cleric Desmond Tutu, rather than the newly elected President Nelson Mandela, who led South Africa's own Truth and Reconciliation Commission at the conclusion of Apartheid in that country.


        As Americans and democratic citizens, we have an obligation to acknowledge the truth about our recent shared past and its present consequences. But this can only legitimately be done by those whose job it is to hold leaders accountable in a democratic society - the people. And it can only justly be motivated by a genuine desire to adhere to the rule of law, not by a desire to seek political retaliation. Otherwise, our collective hope for evolution beyond the stains of our recent past is nothing more than a facade for our complicity in politics as usual.


        --------

        Cynthia Boaz is assistant professor of political science at Sonoma State University, where she specializes in political development, quality of democracy and nonviolent struggle.


    Justice Roberts messed it up, Obama knew that. sm
    He could not repeat it as Roberts stated it because it was wrong. He correctly paused in order to give Justice Roberts the opportunity to state it correctly so that he (Obama) could repeat the oath correctly.
    Gotta post one more on O's picks-Dept of Justice

    This is getting ridiculous.


    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iVg2jiaBA1jwVfCdsisXI0FbZD0AD965BKCG0


    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29030191/


     


    He got a look when Biden was making wise cracks about Justice Roberts at the swearing in. sm
    I think when he is under stress he has a hard time hiding how he feels, but I think it is more a sign that he is honest about his feelings, not that he is going to act out in some crazy way.
    Obama Justice Department Decision Will Allow Non-Citizens to Register to Vote in Georgia

    Georgia Secretary of State Karen Handel issued the following statement following the U.S. Department of Justice’s denial of preclearance of Georgia’s voter verification process


    Atlanta - “The decision by the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) to deny preclearance of Georgia’s already implemented citizenship verification process shows a shocking disregard for the integrity of our elections. With this decision, DOJ has now barred Georgia from continuing the citizenship verification program that DOJ lawyers helped to craft. DOJ’s decision also nullifies the orders of two federal courts directing Georgia to implement the procedure for the 2008 general election. The decision comes seven months after Georgia requested an expedited review of the preclearance submission.


    “DOJ has thrown open the door for activist organizations such as ACORN to register non-citizens to vote in Georgia’s elections, and the state has no ability to verify an applicant’s citizenship status or whether the individual even exists. DOJ completely disregarded Georgia’s obvious and direct interest in preventing non-citizens from voting, instead siding with the ACLU and MALDEF. Clearly, politics took priority over common sense and good public policy.
     
    “This process is critical to protecting the integrity of our elections. We have evidence that non-citizens have voted in past Georgia elections and that more than 2,100 individuals have attempted to register, yet still have questions regarding their citizenship. Further, the Inspector General’s office is investigating more than 30 cases of non-citizens casting ballots in Georgia elections, including the case of a Henry County non-citizen who registered to vote and cast ballots in 2004 and 2006.


    “It is important to underscore that not a single person has come forward to say he or she could not vote because of the verification process. Further, while DOJ argues that the process is somehow discriminatory, the historic voter turnout among Hispanic and African-American voters in the 2008 general elections clearly says otherwise.


    “This decision provides a specific example of the inherently illogical and unfair nature of Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act. It is a sad day for the rights of our state and for the integrity of our elections. I remain committed to continuing the fight for citizenship verification. In the coming days, I will consider every option available to the state, including the possibility of legal action.”


    Background:


    As required by law and ordered by federal courts in October 2008, the eligibility of new applicants to register and vote is checked against the Georgia Department of Driver Services (DDS) and Social Security Administration databases to ensure that individuals registering to vote report similar information. If information in these databases does not match information reported on the voter registration form, the applicant is asked to clarify the information. Additionally, if the applicant previously reported to DDS that he or she is not a U.S. citizen, that person is asked by a registrar to provide proof of citizenship.


    Prior to the November 2008 General Election, Secretary Handel sent letters to 4,771 voter registration applicants whose records at DDS indicated they were not U.S. citizens, asking them to provide documentation of their citizenship. As of March 2009, 2,148 of these applicants still have chosen not to resolve the question about their U.S. citizenship.


    In the November 2008 General Election, county election officials reported that 599 individuals cast a challenged ballot because the voter had previously indicated to DDS that he or she was not a United States citizen and had not resolved their status with county officials at the time of the election. Of those, 369 ballots were accepted because the voter provided documentation of their citizenship after the election; and 230 were rejected because the individual chose not to confirm his or her citizenship status.


    On October 10, 2008, activist organizations including the Mexican-American Legal Defense and Education Fund (MALDEF) and the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) filed a lawsuit to attempt to prevent Georgia from verifying the eligibility of applicants to register and vote in the November General Election, including whether those individuals were citizens of the United States.


    On October 16, 2008, U.S. District Court Judge Jack Camp denied the motion by MALDEF and ACLU; directed the State to continue the verification process; and acknowledged the State’s requirements to verify information under the Help America Vote Act. In his order, Judge Camp stated:


    HAVA requires that Defendant Handel match information in the statewide voter registration database with information from the Georgia DDS and the SSA databases “to the extent necessary to enable each such official to verify the accuracy of the information provided on the applications for voter registration.”


    Judge Camp also stated: ...


    Yes, it does, as well as the VA system. (sm)
    The VA system used to be pretty decent, but during the Bush regime, it became a terrible place for our brave veterans to go for healthcare.  If one president can destroy it, maybe another can restore it.
    VA system..
    was not pretty decent pre-Bush. My husband is a vet. We had used VA services on a couple of occasions way before Bush. He is a Vietnam era vet and we used those services when he got home in 1973. It was AWFUL. Just AWFUL. We chose to pay for his care at other hospitals rather than subject him to horrors of the VA system. Sorry, but you can't blame Bush for everything.
    This whole system needs to be overhauled.
    This is outrageous.  :-(
    System in place........
    No more taxes? Would be nice, but have to have some system in place to run schools, hospitals, keep infrastructure up to date, etc.

    That is what your state is supposed to be responsible for.....not our government.


    We have a geothermal system
    and it saves us so much money.  We have a decent sized home too.  We used to live in an old farm house that was half the size and we used natural gas to heat the place....holy crap.....I truly don't think we could afford to live in that old farm house now because of the price of gas and how much it took to heat that old place.  Our new home is twice as big and our geothermal is a heck of a lot cheaper.  Definitely worth it if you ask me. 
    Honestly, as our system is now, there is no
    reason for anyone to be homeless. Before you tell me, I understand about mental illness and all, and, perhaps, those people are not making a choice, but anyone without enough money to afford a home can get one through our current welfare system--they must only ask.
    I would think that with a punch system you
    wouldn't have front and back pages, but separate pages. If they are front and back, they would have to be spaced so that could not happen IF punched correctly.
    If we can restructure the tax system, you would have your wish..............sm
    The corporate giants right now have so many legal tax loopholes, which their pricey lawyers handle so efficiently for them, that if they shouldered most of the tax burden, instead of the middle class, then they WOULD be giving billions to the government, and we would not be in such a mess, although there are many other factors and that is much too simplistic. But honestly, no one wants to tackle this subject, becaue where do the politicians get most of their $$$ for campaigning????? You know!
    First of all, I never implied that there should be only one system s/m

    this is just another example of you guys taking words and twisting them into something sinister.  Obviously you didn't listen to the President's speech last night.  He made it very clear he wants to get rid of the the banks' dependence on the government and allow them to run once again independently.  YOU DON'T LISTEN!  And did I say I did not want democracy?  NO!!  What I am talking about that the way the GOP is now is going down the toilet.  They need to update their philosophies to correlate with the 21st century instead of the 19th century.  A poster on here a couple of days ago made a statement about the Republicans allowing the Evangelicals run the party -- that is what is killing it and will continue a slow demise if that is allowed to continue to happen.  You people are in total denial about what is really happening to your own party, except for the few people who don't have their heads up their behinds and are trying to distance themselves from that extremist faction, which unfortunately, seems to be very prevalent on this board..


    I do not follow the 'party' system. sm
    Consider myself true conservative (not Republican or a religious zealot), libertarian. Colbert shoved the truth in the face of power, media & government. Somebody needs to do it. The mainstream media does not have the guts to really put the truth in Bush's face. They are afraid of him, just like the rest of the world and America. Definitely something wrong with that.
    Draft System To Be Tested...sm
    Military Draft System to be Tested
    Body: Associated Press | December 22, 2006

    WASHINGTON - The Selective Service System is planning a comprehensive test of the military draft machinery, which hasn't been run since 1998.

    The agency is not gearing up for a draft, an agency official said Thursday. The test itself would not likely occur until 2009.

    Meanwhile, the secretary for Veterans Affairs said that society would benefit if the U.S. were to bring back the draft and that it shouldn't have any loopholes for anyone who is called to serve. VA Secretary Jim Nicholson later issued a statement saying he does not support reinstituting a draft.

    The Selective Service readiness exercise would test the system that randomly chooses draftees by birth date and the network of appeals boards that decide how to deal with conscientious objectors and others who want to delay reporting for duty, said Scott Campbell, Selective Service director for operations and chief information officer.

    We're kind of like a fire extinguisher. We sit on a shelf until needed, Campbell said. Everyone fears our machine for some reason. Our machine, unless the president and Congress get together and say, 'Turn the machine on' ... we're still on the shelf.

    The administration has for years forcefully opposed bringing back the draft, and the White House said Thursday that its position had not changed.

    A day earlier, President Bush said he is considering sending more troops to Iraq and has asked Defense Secretary Robert Gates to look into adding more troops to the nearly 1.4 million uniformed personnel on active duty.

    According to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, increasing the Army by 40,000 troops would cost as much as $2.6 billion the first year and $4 billion after that. Service officials have said the Army wants to increase its force by 20,000 to 30,000 soldiers and the Marine Corps would like 5,000 more troops.

    The unpopular war in Iraq, where more than 2,950 American troops have already died, complicates the task of finding more recruits and retaining current troops - to meet its recruitment goals in recent years, the Army has accepted recruits with lower aptitude test scores.

    In remarks to reporters in New York, Nicholson recalled his own experience as a company commander in an infantry unit that brought together soldiers of different backgrounds and education levels. He said the draft does bring people from all quarters of our society together in the common purpose of serving.

    Rep. Charles Rangel, a New York Democrat who has said minorities and the poor share an unfair burden of the war, plans to introduce a bill next year to reinstate the draft.

    House Speaker-elect Nancy Pelosi has said that reinstating the draft would not be high on the Democratic-led Congress' priority list, and the White House said Thursday that no draft proposal is being considered.

    Planning for the Selective Service exercise, called the Area Office Mobilization Prototype Exercise, is slated to begin in June or July of next year for a 2009 test. Campbell said budget cuts could force the agency to cancel the test, which he said should take place every three years but hasn't because of funding constraints.

    Hearst Newspapers first reported the planned test for a story sent to its subscribers for weekend use.

    The military drafted people during the Civil War and both world wars and between 1948 and 1973. An agency independent of the Defense Department, the Selective Service System was reincorporated in 1980 to maintain a registry of 18-year-old men, but call-ups have not occurred since the Vietnam War.

    What do you think?
    OMG! (lol!) In the public school system,
    Thanks for a good laugh!
    The local hospital uses a system like this
    but it's just a matter of time until they will invest in the additional equipment so they no longer need any MTs.  I forgot about all the file clerks, etc. in medical records whose jobs have already been cut.  Lordy!!!  What on earth are we all gonna do when they "save money" by taking away ALL our jobs. 
    I work on an EMR system for a hospital.
    It has an interface where the physicians dictate and we transcribe. The report is then uploaded for physician review and signature. After being signed, the report is electronically filed in the patient's record. The patient records are stored electronically and are easily accessed by staff from any the hospitals within our healthcare system. At least in an acute care setting, the system has not replaced MT's but rather reduced the staffing in the in Medical Records.
    Yes, there are people who abuse the system, but...
    you can't apply that to everyone on welfare.  There are a lot of good people who don't abuse the system who have to be on welfare. 
    That's not how the voucher system works.
    You don't send your kid to a "voucher school." You get a tax credit to help offset the cost of private school. Because, guess what, THEY'RE BETTER! They're actually held accountable. In high schools here in Florida, you don't even need a teaching degree! You just have to have gotten a BA in something. Anything. That's effing pathetic. My daughter's BIOLOGY teacher was a TAX ACCOUNTANT, who did little more than pop video tapes into the TV set so the kids would leave her alone so she could eat her box of Slim Fast bars and read Soap Opera Digest. THAT'S the public school system, and it stinks to high heaven.

    People who protest against vouchers do so because it suits their political agenda, NOT because they are thinking about what's best for the kids.

    "Voucher programs have also inspired enormous opposition, primarily from the education establishment and on the political Left. Union officials and public educators tend to see vouchers as a threat because they empower parents rather than school boards to decide where a child goes to school. The Left views vouchers as the conservatives’ way of introducing competition into public education as a whole, and as a means of promoting the privatization such programs as Social Security and replacing many others with free market initiatives. In addition, since most (85 percent) of the private voucher schools serving low-income students are religious (and mostly Catholic), vouchers inspire stiff resistance from those who believe in a strict separation of church and state. " ~ from http://stats.org/stories/2008/tes_scores_vouchers_oct20_08.html
    Posts like these are what is wrong with the system
    All through the election we were encouraged to be color blind and, judging by the numbers at the polls, that is exactly what people were.

    However, NOW that Obama is president, ANY hint of opposition to any of his policies is immediately attacked as being racist. When the dems on these boards shredded Bush constantly for anything he said or did, no one immediately jumped to his defense saying you were picking on him because he was white.

    C'mon. Practice what you preach. If this is to be a discussion of politics, stop attacking every anti-Obama post as being racist. He is our president. ALL of us. And criticism comes with the job. Just because he's black, he's not going to get a free ride.

    Nah, just cleaning out my closet and getting it out of my system.
    Deleting old links, etc.  It's going to be a long four years.  I'm sure I'll have more to criticize, but for now I feel like taking a deep cleansing breath and bracing myself.
    Under the socialized medicine system........sm
    which is basically what Obama is pushing for, you might get some health care, but I sure hope you don't need a hip replacement or other specialized care. Just ask our neighbors to the north how long they have to wait for a hip replacement.

    Brian Day, former president of the Canadian Medical Association, remarked that Canada "is a country in which dogs can get a hip replacement in under a week and in which humans can wait two to three years."

    Medicines will be rationed and forget about getting treatment for pesky things like cancer if you are over a certain age or have other comorbid conditions.


    I believe in a single payer system.

    It's not being "rushed."  It's not even on the table.  If you like your insurance, you should have a right to keep it.  Others of us would like the option of a single-payer program.


    HR676 has been in Congress collecting dust for a very long time now.  It's not being rushed.  It's being ignored.


    You HAVE to feel better getting all that poison out of your system girl! nm

    Report: 1 in 31 U.S. adults in prison system


    Updated: 8:07 p.m. ET Nov. 2, 2005

    WASHINGTON - Nearly 7 million adults were in U.S. prisons or on probation or parole at the end of last year, 30 percent more than in 1995, the Justice Department said Wednesday.


    That was about one in every 31 adults under correctional supervision at the end of 2004, compared with about 1 in 36 adults in 1995 and about 1 adult in every 88 in 1980, said Allan J. Beck, who oversaw the preparation of the department’s annual report on probation and parole populations.


    Beck attributed the overall rise in the number of people under correctional supervision to sentencing reforms of the 1990s. The nation’s incarcerated population has been increasing for more than 30 years, with sharp growth in the last decade.He said crime rates have fallen in recent years, which helps account for slower growth among people on probation — those allowed to live in the community with some restrictions rather than being incarcerated.


    The number of people on probation in 2004 grew by 6,343 to about 4.2 million in 2004, the report said.


    Nearly 50 percent of all probationers at the end of last year were convicted of a felony. Twenty-six percent were on probation for a drug-law violation, and 15 percent for driving while intoxicated, said the annual Justice Department report.


    Racial imbalance persists in probation
    Whites made up 56 percent of the probation population and only 34 percent of the prison population, according to Wednesday’s report and another Justice Department report released last month.


    “White people — for whatever reason — seem to have more access to community supervision than African Americans and Hispanics,” said Jason Ziedenberg, executive director of the Justice Policy Institute, which promotes alternatives to incarceration. He called probation a cheaper and more effective form of rehabilitation.


    Blacks, he noted, comprised 30 percent of probationers and 41 percent of prisoners at the end of 2004. Hispanics made up 12 percent of the probation population and 19 percent of the prison population


    Parolees grew fastest among those under correctional supervision. They are criminal offenders who rejoin society with restrictions for a time after they complete a prison term.


    Number of parolees grows
    The adult parole population grew 20,230, or 2.7 percent, during the year, more than twice the average annual increase of 1.3 percent since 1995, the report said. The total number of parolees at the end of 2004 was 765,355.


    Beck said a late 1990s spike in prison populations is now showing up in the number of parolees, as the number of prisoners released rises.


    The parole population grew during 2004 in 39 states, with double-digit growth in 10 states, led by Nebraska’s 24 percent increase. The number of people on parole decreased in nine states and didn’t change in Maine.


    About 187,000, or 39 percent of discharged parolees went back to prison or jail in 2005. While the number has grown, the rate has held relatively stable since 1995, when 160,000, or 39 percent of discharged parolees returned to incarceration.


    The total number of people incarcerated in the United States grew 1.9 percent in 2004 to 2,267,787 people, according to the report released last month.


    © 2005 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

    Hillary's proposed healthcare system?
    When I was watching Hillary say *I will fight the drug companies and insurance companies* I responded *You took $800,000 in donations from those people! And you are going to fight them?!* 

     

    Remember that Punjab article we saw months ago about her?  Well, here it is below but remember it is in ADOBE PDF format (very easy to read that way though)....

     

    http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/politics/memo1.pdf

     

    be VERY CAREFUL if you're thinking about Hillary......please....

     

    I'm very pro-woman (am one myself) but just because it has the same body parts doesn't mean I'm voting for them.........loved Bill but truly have had enough of the Clintons to last a couple of lifetimes....

    More on the French health care system...

    reality rears its ugly head....










    French healthcare is 'badly run'





    Healthcare
    Plans for spending cuts have drawn protests from health workers
    France must make big changes to its health system in order to cut waste and increase efficiency, a government-commissioned report is warning.

    The report says citizens must pay more and doctors must alter their behaviour.

    Failure to do so could add 66 billion euros a year to France's public budget deficit by 2020, it adds.

    The warning comes after thousands of health workers protested on Thursday over staff shortages and the "creeping privatisation" of the health system.


    'Badly regulated'

    The report was written by the High Council for the Future of Health Insurance, an advisory body set up by the government as it prepares to introduce healthcare reform legislation in June.






    "
    PRESCRIPTION BILL


    Average French GP prescribes drugs worth 260,000 euros a year

    The French use three times as many antibiotics as Germans

    They use twice as many anti-cholestorol drugs as Britons

    A fifth of health spending goes on pharmaceuticals
    It includes representatives from the health insurance industry, trade unions and medical professionals.


    The report was given to the Health Ministry on Friday, but details were leaked by the Reuters news agency which saw a copy.

    The standard of care provided by French doctors is ranked among the best in the world, but the report says the system is "badly regulated and badly governed".

    "The High Council believes that general confusion over who is in charge of what partly explains the excesses," it says.

    "Everyone - institutions, healthcare professionals and social security contributors - will have to change their behaviour."

    Higher insurance payments?

    The report says French general practitioners prescribe on average 260,000 euros' worth of drugs a year.






    "
    BUDGET STRAINS


    Health spending nearing 9% of GDP

    Projected healthcare deficit this year - 10.9 billion euros

    Deficit in 2010 if nothing is done - 29 billion euros

    Healthcare deficit to account for 20% of total public deficit this year
    It says the French consume three times as many antibiotics as the Germans, and more than twice as many anti-cholesterol drugs as the British.

    The council also highlights the CSG welfare levy - a charge paid by workers, the unemployed and pensioners - as an area for possible reform.

    "The High Council is unanimous in its refusal to turn to massive indebtedness to cover the growth in health insurance expenditure," the report said.

    "The CSG, with its large base and the principle of proportionality that underpins it, could seem like a possible answer," it said.

    The council said even a structural shake-up of the system would not necessarily rule out the need to raise further revenues.

    Prime Minister Jean-Pierre Raffarin, which set up the council last October to advise the government on healthcare reform, said last week the government had not been planning a rise in the CSG as part of the healthcare reforms.

    Growing deficit

    The report says an ageing population and the high cost of advanced treatments will help push health spending past 9% of gross domestic product - one of the highest levels in the world.






    "
    Number of doctors per 1,000 people


    Italy - 4.1

    France - 3.3

    Germany - 3.3

    UK - 2.0

    Japan - 1.9

    Source: British Medical Association. Figures for 2000
    Experts have already warned that a projected healthcare deficit of 10.9 billion euros this year could rise to 29 billion euros by 2010, unless action is taken.

    Looking further ahead, the report says the deficit could rise to 66 billion euros by 2020.

    Health Minister Jean-Francois Mattei has already put forward a plan known as "Hospital 2007" proposing management reforms and a new emphasis on cost assessment.

    Problems in the French health system were exposed last year, when a heat wave killed around 15,000 mostly elderly people.

    There was also a bed shortage in hospitals in December, when a nationwide flu and bronchitis epidemic broke out.


    The US has the best health care system in the world...s/m


    AP
    US among worst in world for infant death





    By The Associated Press 2 hours, 58 minutes ago



    The rate at which infants die in the United States has dropped substantially over the past half-century, but broad disparities remain among racial groups, and the country stacks up poorly next to other industrialized nations.


    In 2004, the most recent year for which statistics are available, roughly seven babies died for every 1,000 live births before reaching their first birthday, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says. That was down from about 26 in 1960.


    Babies born to black mothers died at two and a half times the rate of those born to white mothers, according to the CDC figures.


    The United States ranks near the bottom for infant survival rates among modernized nations. A Save the Children report last year placed the United States ahead of only Latvia, and tied with Hungary, Malta, Poland and Slovakia.


    The same report noted the United States had more neonatologists and newborn intensive care beds per person than Australia, Canada and the United Kingdom — but still had a higher rate of infant mortality than any of those nations.


    Doctors and analysts blame broad disparities in access to health care among racial and income groups in the United States.


    Not surprisingly, the picture is far bleaker in poorer countries, particularly in Africa. A 2005 World Health Organization report found infant mortality rates as high as 144 per 1,000 births — more than 20 times the U.S. rate — in Liberia.


    Deregulation of health care system...
    kiss your butt good-bye. 
    Our public education system, somewhat off topic.

    I  have heard so much about our education system and I'm sure some of it is true.  However, I would like to relay a recent experience I had......


    Living in a small community that is loaded with history, I and a couple of other "older" ladies hosted the local 4th and 5th grades on a field trip regarding the history of a couple of landmarks.......anyone interested can visit my website http://www.ozarkmountainmemories.com and read about them. 


    I was to do the historical presentation on the Cane Hill College Building.  My good friend was to do the presentation on the Old Mill.  Before I knew that there were 212 students plus teachers and parents, I opened my big mouth and said I would make cookies and Kool-Aid for the kid's field trip.  I ended up having a lot of help there!!!


    Both my friend and I were very apprehensive about this field trip.  Well, I want to tell you that those were the best behaved kids I have seen in a long time.  This field trip was to prepare them to write an essay for the Arkansas Historical Society.  They were attentive and, asked very pertinent and intelligent questions.


    One of the teachers called me yesterday and said that she was going to bring me some of the essays the kids had written.  She read one to me and it started out with "You may think the Cane Hill College is just a 2-story brick building...." and the student proceeded to write what  I would consider a very excellent essay.  I will post some of these on my website when I have them in hand.


    I might also say that there were a good many parents present for the field trip.  I came away from that field trip with a whole different perspective on the local school, which is reputed to be one of the worst school districts in the state with the highest teen pregnancy rate.  I think if these 4th and 5th graders continue through high school with teachers such as I met and parents who are involved in their education, each and every one of them will be just A-okay.


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    Have you studied the healthcare system in France?
    I have not seen you remark on it once.  It seems you are avoiding it.  The young person who opts out is not an issue.   
    You GOT to feel better gettin' all that out of your system. Whew doggies! ....
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    This is what happens when the American legal system handles things
    things can get screwed up on a minor technicality--such as the president ordering justified wire taps. The columnist is right saying that the Americans won't support impeaching Bush for trying to fight terrorism. Oh the dems are scraping the bottom trying to persue this, and in the process they are only going to hurt themselves, because they will be viewed as being totally spineless on national security (which they are--this little stunt more thanproves it).

    Again, the screw up here is letting the screwed up American legal system handle legal cases that are best served by military tribunals.
    Tax cuts, progressive tax system, social programs
    are as American as apple pie and these same policies and initiatives can be found puncuating the pages of our history from the day of our country's inception.

    You do not understand Marxism or socialism, or you would be a lot more exercised by the current redistribution of wealth that takes your tax dollars and moves them upward to an elite ruling class that represses and undermines the middle class at the drop of a hat. State ownership of banks, lending institutions and direct personal property "buy outs" (as proposed by McCain certainly smack of Marxism and are not exactly what you could call traditional American values.
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    Wow! You'd better go back to school. The Federal Reserve System is definitely
    Perhaps you're thinking of Freddie Mac or Sallie Mae...or the Post Office, maybe?
    Opinions on Hillary's proposed health care system?
    Personally, I'm against mandatory health insurance laws.  Look how mandatory auto insurance goes - you buy the cheapest policy because you can't afford the good ones.  Your policy covers squat, but you're legal.  I'm concerned the "affordable" health insurance she wants to force us to buy will turn into the same thing - a crap policy that covers nothing but keeps you legal.  Does anybody else feel like I do about this?
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    This has absolutely nothing to do with being instructed in English.

    Sounds like the teacher is foisting her principles and ideas on youngsters, which she has no right to do. It's none of her business who and who was not born out of wedlock. She has no right to tell youngsters to get married and stay married, that's none of her business either. She has no right to tell a youngster to take a job and keep it, no matter what the pay. I'm wondering how old this teacher is.

    Write a letter of complaint to the Board of Education, stating the above and ask them what this has to do with English instruction.

    She's not a morals counselor, she's supposed to be a teacher of English.

    Maybe the ACLU would be interested. You never know. Can't hurt to ask.

    It that was my kid, I'd be in the teacher's face big time.
    FOX News Exposes Princeton / Diebold Vote Cheating System

    Uh-oh!  Bushies aren't going to like this!  Bad, bad Faux News!


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JESZiLpBLE