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Oh, I have no doubt the economy will improve

Posted By: temporarily. on 2009-03-27
In Reply to: Not afraid of looking foolish cuz... - it won't happen

I mean, it would have to, wouldn't it? It couldn't have gotten worse! But that will only fool people who can't comprehend the long-term consequences of this massive spending and borrowing we're doing like a nation gone completely mad. And, of course, that requires that a lot of people like you must be easily fooled...as I'm afraid you are.




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Your vision might improve if you stop *glaring*
* Bill Clinton: Did not serve. Student deferments. Entered draft but received #311.

I doubt it. nm

Somehow I doubt that. nm

I seriously doubt that.
Let's stick to reality here, but probably an impossible thing to ask for.
What I know without a doubt is that I don't want...
a party who accepts the kinds of things you post here anywhere near the presidency.
Somehow I doubt that very seriously........
Palin's daughter is just an easy target right now because Obama's girls aren't old enough.... on the other hand with 12 year olds having babies, I guess we won't have to wait long, huh?

I'm sorry you think you are so morally righteous that you have the right to condemn others....
I rather doubt that.

No doubt!
I often wonder how Obama can keep his cool.

It was also pathetic when McCain carried on and on during the last debate about how someone said something unpleasant about him at an Obama rally and he felt Obama didn't stick up for him.

Are you kidding me?!!?
i have no doubt... NM
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somehow I doubt that
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LOL...I seriously doubt that...(sm)
I tend to have that bad habit of going by facts -- not speculation.
I doubt it...
I am qualified to do other things. I do this job so that I can stay home with my kids. I could make more money elsewhere. Also, I never did say that I have easy doctors, just doctors that I am used to. I know what mushmouth things they say. I don't have medical benefits. If I needed them, I would have to do some other kind of work. I just think that it is silly to pay the auto workers more than they are worth because of unions. I understand that you are pro union and all, but there is no need to say that I will clean toilets. Come on Gourdpainter, are you having a bad day?
Oh...there is! Same ones no doubt that put him through
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No doubt.....
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I doubt it, too. (sm)

I expect to be called a bunch of names after people don't even bother to read it or watch the video.


But thank you for such a nice, civil comment.  They're hard to come by these days on this board. 


I doubt that this had anything to do with...(sm)
how much he loves his country, much less his race (yeah, you really went out on a limb on that one).  What it has to with is what he's teaching the kids.  From what I understand he directs his students to his website, which is a conservative web site.  That's where I have a problem.  We don't need to teach partisan politics in a history class, we need to teach history...the facts.
Here's another one regarding the economy.

And you're right.  Some people do. 










The Joyless Economy
by Paul Krugman
The New York Times
December 5, 2005


Falling gasoline prices have led to some improvement in consumer confidence over the past few weeks. But the public remains deeply unhappy about the state of the economy. According to the latest Gallup poll, 63 percent of Americans rate the economy as only fair or poor, and by 58 to 36 percent people say economic conditions are getting worse, not better.

Yet by some measures, the economy is doing reasonably well. In particular, gross domestic product is rising at a pretty fast clip. So why aren't people pleased with the economy's performance?

Like everything these days, this is a political as well as factual question. The Bush administration seems genuinely puzzled that it isn't getting more credit for what it thinks is a booming economy. So let me be helpful here and explain what's going on.

I could point out that the economic numbers, especially the job numbers, aren't as good as the Bush people imagine. President Bush made an appearance in the Rose Garden to hail the latest jobs report, yet a gain of 215,000 jobs would have been considered nothing special - in fact, a bit subpar - during the Clinton years. And because the average workweek shrank a bit, the total number of hours worked actually fell last month.

But the main explanation for economic discontent is that it's hard to convince people that the economy is booming when they themselves have yet to see any benefits from the supposed boom. Over the last few years G.D.P. growth has been reasonably good, and corporate profits have soared. But that growth has failed to trickle down to most Americans.

Back in August the Census bureau released family income data for 2004. The report, which was overshadowed by Hurricane Katrina, showed a remarkable disconnect between overall economic growth and the economic fortunes of most American families.

It should have been a good year for American families: the economy grew 4.2 percent, its best performance since 1999. Yet most families actually lost economic ground. Real median household income - the income of households in the middle of the income distribution, adjusted for inflation - fell for the fifth year in a row. And one key source of economic insecurity got worse, as the number of Americans without health insurance continued to rise.

We don't have comparable data for 2005 yet, but it's pretty clear that the results will be similar. G.D.P. growth has remained solid, but most families are probably losing ground as their earnings fail to keep up with inflation.

Behind the disconnect between economic growth and family incomes lies the extremely lopsided nature of the economic recovery that officially began in late 2001. The growth in corporate profits has, as I said, been spectacular. Even after adjusting for inflation, profits have risen more than 50 percent since the last quarter of 2001. But real wage and salary income is up less than 7 percent.

There are some wealthy Americans who derive a large share of their income from dividends and capital gains on stocks, and therefore benefit more or less directly from soaring profits. But these people constitute a small minority. For everyone else the sluggish growth in wages is the real story. And much of the wage and salary growth that did take place happened at the high end, in the form of rising payments to executives and other elite employees. Average hourly earnings of nonsupervisory workers, adjusted for inflation, are lower now than when the recovery began.

So there you have it. Americans don't feel good about the economy because it hasn't been good for them. Never mind the G.D.P. numbers: most people are falling behind.

It's much harder to explain why. The disconnect between G.D.P. growth and the economic fortunes of most American families can't be dismissed as a normal occurrence. Wages and median family income often lag behind profits in the early stages of an economic expansion, but not this far behind, and not for so long. Nor, I should say, is there any easy way to place more than a small fraction of the blame on Bush administration policies. At this point the joylessness of the economic expansion for most Americans is a mystery.

What's clear, however, is that advisers who believe that Mr. Bush can repair his political standing by making speeches telling the public how well the economy is doing have misunderstood the situation. The problem isn't that people don't understand how good things are. It's that they know, from personal experience, that things really aren't that good.


The economy. It's not going anywhere
counting.
Economy going down is right.
work for, the largest transcription company in the US, is now paying us for ASR, 60% and others will get straight 4 cents a line. 
Actually, no, not the economy....(sm)
I was actually referring to Pelosi and her power grab, cutting off all GOP opposition, behind closed doors, that no one will ever hear about again, from the other day.

And did you catch Barney Frank today on the retroactive rules on the TARP?


http://www.newsmax.com/politics/tarp/2009/01/09/169663.html?utm_medium=RSS
What I am doing to help the economy

1.  I pray for this country and the president every day.


2.  I'm not constantly complaining about everything.


3.  I am not watching the DOW like it's American Idol.


4.  I’ve taken fiscal responsibility for me and my home.


5.  I give what I can to the food banks and my church etc. to help those who need help.


 


I did not vote for President Obama.  I do not think he is the messiah and I certainly will not blame him for the mess we are in right now simply because we all played a part.  No one forced anyone to take house loans that they could not pay, no one forces us to use our credit card and run up debts and live beyond our means, no one predicted that you would take a loan and then lose your job and be in foreclosure and no one regulated the banks like they should of.


 


Now that being said, in a crisis it is so easy to look for someone to blame, become angry, and forget who we are.  So my advice the next time you are at your kitchen table wondering how you are going to make ends meet, that you remember who you are, an American.  I would also advise getting some debt management help.


 


So please, instead of running around with your hands up in the air thinking the worst and claiming the sky is falling, try listening to the Star Spangled Banner or something that is positive.  I have found that this helps me a lot.


 


Now let us all take a good long look in the mirror, have a little faith in ourselves as a country and stop beating up on each other.  Have a good day everyone and God Bless America.


 


What I am doing to help the economy

1.  I pray for this country and the president every day.


2.  I'm not constantly complaining about everything.


3.  I am not watching the DOW like it's American Idol.


4.  I’ve taken fiscal responsibility for me and my home.


5.  I give what I can to the food banks and my church etc. to help those who need help.


 


I did not vote for President Obama.  I do not think he is the messiah and I certainly will not blame him for the mess we are in right now simply because we all played a part.  No one forced anyone to take house loans that they could not pay, no one forces us to use our credit card and run up debts and live beyond our means, no one predicted that you would take a loan and then lose your job and be in foreclosure and no one regulated the banks like they should of.


 


Now that being said, in a crisis it is so easy to look for someone to blame, become angry, and forget who we are.  So my advice the next time you are at your kitchen table wondering how you are going to make ends meet, that you remember who you are, an American.  I would also advise getting some debt management help.


 


So please, instead of running around with your hands up in the air thinking the worst and claiming the sky is falling, try listening to the Star Spangled Banner or something that is positive.  I have found that this helps me a lot.


 


Now let us all take a good long look in the mirror, have a little faith in ourselves as a country and stop beating up on each other.  Have a good day everyone and God Bless America.


 


Please take Economy 101
Your pathetic little woe-is-me mentality is the problem with the economy.

Wake up, eejit. The 'rich' people are the ones paying all the taxes. The runts at the bottom - you know - the ones so unintelligent or unmotivated to make it in the world - pay no taxes and suck all the money out of the country.

No country ever got anywhere by taking down the successful people and raising up the ingrates. In America, you can get rich if you want to. But you have to work for it. If you don't have the guts or the self-motivation, you get to live according to your own means.

Suck it up.
The Economy

The Economy - Not the President - is Tanking the Market


by:  Hale Stewart



One of the more ridiculous statements going around over the last few weeks is "this is an Obama bear market." This statement is, well, ill-informed at best and fraudulent at worst. Let's look at why.


First -- who is saying this? Such economic luminaries as John Hawkins at Right Wing News (who actually asked Is Obama Deliberately Tanking the Stock Market?), Powerline, Brit Hume along with a host of other right wing bloggers. What all of these people have in common is their incessant chearleading during the Bush years despite mounting evidence of an upcoming recession. There are the same people who argued that ... housing is a small part of the economy ... most people are paying their mortgages ... the US economy will decouple from the rest of the world .... it's the greatest story never told ..... you get the idea. Simply put, these are people who have distinguished themselves by being some of the best contrary indicators around.


Secondly, the SPYs -- the tracking ETF for the S&P 500 -- dropped from (roughly) 155 in the summer of 2007 to (roughly) 85 at the end of last year. Yet I don't remember any of them saying that was the Bush bear market -- even though that's a drop of roughly 43%. No -- it's the new President that's causing the problems. In addition, when Bush took office the SPYs dropped from roughly 130 at the begging of 2001 to 85 in the fourth quarter of 2002. Yet somehow I don't think any of them blamed Bush's policies for the drop. Then it was the "lasting effects of the Clinton recession" or something similar.


What all of these idiots are forgetting is the simple fact that the economy is the backdrop of the stock market. When the economy does well the stock market does well. When the economy doesn't do well, the stock market doesn't do well. And to that end, the economy isn't doing well right now. Let's look at some recent news events.


From the BEA:


Real gross domestic product -- the output of goods and services produced by labor and propertylocated in the United States -- decreased at an annual rate of 6.2 percent in the fourth quarter of 2008,(that is, from the third quarter to the fourth quarter), according to preliminary estimates released by theBureau of Economic Analysis. In the third quarter, real GDP decreased 0.5 percent.

From the BLS:



Nonfarm payroll employment continued to fall sharply in February (-651,000), and the unemployment rate rose from 7.6 to 8.1 percent, the Bureau of Labor Statistics of the U.S. Department of Labor reported today. Payroll employment has declined by 2.6 million in the past 4 months. In February, job losses were large and widespread across nearly all major industry sectors.



From the Federal Reserve:


Reports from the twelve Federal Reserve Districts suggest that national economic conditions deteriorated further during the reporting period of January through late February. Ten of the twelve reports indicated weaker conditions or declines in economic activity; the exceptions were Philadelphia and Chicago, which reported that their regional economies "remained weak." The deterioration was broad based, with only a few sectors such as basic food production and pharmaceuticals appearing to be exceptions. Looking ahead, contacts from various Districts rate the prospects for near-term improvement in economic conditions as poor, with a significant pickup not expected before late 2009 or early 2010.

Consumer spending remained sluggish on net, although many Districts noted some improvement in January and February compared with a dismal holiday spending season. Travel and tourist activity fell noticeably in key destinations, as did activity for a wide range of nonfinancial services, with substantial job cuts noted in many instances. Reports on manufacturing activity suggested steep declines in activity in some sectors and pronounced declines overall. Conditions weakened somewhat for agricultural producers and substantially for extractors of natural resources, with reduced global demand cited as an underlying determinant in both cases. Markets for residential real estate remained largely stagnant, with only minimal and scattered signs of stabilization emerging in some areas, while demand for commercial real estate weakened significantly. Reports from banks and other financial institutions indicated further drops in business loan demand, a slight deterioration in credit quality for businesses and households, and continued tight credit availability.




From the FDIC:





Expenses associated with rising loan losses and declining asset values overwhelmed revenues in the fourth quarter of 2008, producing a net loss of $26.2 billion at insured commercial banks and savings institutions. This is the first time since the fourth quarter of 1990 that the industry has posted an aggregate net loss for a quarter. The ?0.77 percent quarterly return on assets (ROA) is the worst since the ?1.10 percent in the second quarter of 1987. A year ago, the industry reported $575 million in profits and an ROA of 0.02 percent. High expenses for loan-loss provisions, sizable losses in trading accounts, and large writedowns of goodwill and other assets all contributed to the industry's net loss. A few very large losses were reported during the quarter-four institutions accounted for half of the total industry loss-but earnings problems were widespread. Almost one out of every three institutions (32 percent) reported a net loss in the fourth quarter. Only 36 percent of institutions reported year-over-year increases in quarterly earnings, and only 34 percent reported higher quarterly ROAs.


I could go on, but you you get the idea. The news of the underlying economy has been terrible (at best). And that's what's causing the problems.

 



The economy had nothing to do with ........
his jumping to grow BIG and BIGGER government; he was going to do that regardless of the economy. Obama is for big government and was WAAAY before he was elected. The economy was a good excuse to scare people into electing him, as if this country couldn't pick itself up, get rid of the bad, new companies come in, and the economy would continue all on its own, WITHOUT Obama's interference. But, of course, he jumped at the chance to push his HUGE government agenda by taxing us to death. Please don't tell me you won't pay any taxes. How in the heck do you think trillions of dollars of debt will be repaid..... and no, it won't be those mean old "rich" people everyone loves to hate and it won't be the big businesses Obama wants you to hate, it will be YOU and me..... business will just pass their increased tax load onto us!! Way to go Obama!!
I doubt they notice.
They are too busy cheer-leading every single thing he does and trashing anyone who disagrees with them.  They seem to follow blindly, unquestioningly, and would rather not think independent thoughts.  At least that's what they've led me to believe about them.  You're absolutely right about Jimmy Carter, too.  He does wonderful work with Habitat for Humanity.  It's amazing how the group that should be the most tolerant and accepting and loving is the group that is the most ferocious, biting, hateful and angry. 
I seriously doubt that is who she had in mind. ...
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I seriously doubt your statistics.
And the truth is, the man whose article you posted has an agenda.  I don't listen to things like this from either side.  Conspiracy theories are tiresome.
I don't doubt one word you say.

Especially considering Bush's fondness of scare tactics.  I don't know if she drinks or not (I've often thought she looked, sounded and acted drunk), which makes me wonder if she might have one too many someday and spill the beans.  Either way, she doesn't seem like a very stable person.


I'm sorry about your career.  You weren't one of those CIA whistle blowers, were you?  We've all seen, through this administration at leas, that honesty in government is a big no-no, and if anyone tries to divulge their dirty tricks, they're lives are destroyed.


I doubt a lot of conservatives were there. sm
True conservatives would not have been caught dead there.  Maybe some RINOS.
I doubt you would believe it if YOU saw it. Sigh.
And just because you say it ISN'T so, doesn't make it NOT so, either. :-)
Experience....but have no doubt...
McCain/Palin will bring change with their experience. Just not the kind of social marxist change the dems want to enforce.

I have no faith in any kind of so-called change from any current member of the Democratic party.

doubt any of them have read

it either.  Probably pulled off some Fox website.  the post is not for discussion.   You are supposed to read the quotes pulled out of their  context and say to yourself, Wow, he is a black man.  He is not like me.  He scares me.  I am afraid.  I will vote for the elderly white man even if he cares not a whit about my life.  It is a basic crude, race baiting post.


 


No, he is a socialist first.........and no doubt his
It is known for a FACT that the Obama campaign has contributed over 800K dollars to ACORN, a corrupt organization committed to voter fraud with many members of ACORN indicted for those crimes and more...... you figure it out.

And pleeeze do not tell me Obama doesn't know anything about this...
I have no doubt, we have a split
board. Someone loves arguments and has a heck of a lot of time on her hands. She is never here all at one time, if you watch closely. Uses one moniker to try to sound decent, and multiple others to incite arguing. Let's try ignoring and maybe it will go away.
Sincerely doubt that
Sam was never duplicitous.

I seriously doubt it is untrue.
Emotions are running way too high, especially in the Republican rallies, and I DO watch them.  If ever there was a plant in the audience it was the black man that stood up and said, "please, sir, I'm begging you....."  Notice Mc went up and hugged him and then addressed the poor woman who was "scared" of Obama because he was a terrorist.  Anyone remember Mccain saying, "no, no maam, he's not."  Do any of you republicans ever pay attention? 
i have no doubt He is coming
than we think.
I don't doubt that he IS. Remeber he said...
start at the BOTTOM. And that is EXACTLY what he meant.
I doubt you even read it...........sm
did you? 

This person has gone to exhaustive measures and would appear to be very knowledgable in photography and computer graphics.  There is a lot of proof in this article. 
I doubt he's jesting s/m
The Bushes may hide in the bushes for awhile but they'll come out again and people will probably be dumb enough to elect Jeb.  May as well have a Clinton/Bush/Kennedy monarchy and be done with it.
I seriously doubt liberals have anything
Republicans, the party of whiners.
No doubt..........you were probably too busy
watching Pelosi jumping up and down like an idjit who escaped from the looney bin....

Even Biden and the others looked like they were sick and tired of that charade.
No doubt..........you were probably too busy
watching Pelosi jumping up and down like an idjit who escaped from the looney bin....

Even Biden and the others looked like they were sick and tired of that charade.
Doubt Your Story
Sounds like more regurgitated propaganda.

Nice try.
Doubt this story all you want...
but it happens everyday.  I'm just glad that abortion will always be legal and there isn't a darn thing you can do about it, except throw your little tantrum and stomp your feet.  Who is laughing now?  Oh, that would be all us women who believe we have choices.  All of you women who want others to choose for you, well...that's just sad!   You actually try to make a point by slamming a woman who is the victim of rape and we are supposed to believe you care about anything?  You are a miserable unhappy person who is ticked off that there are women out there who take control over their lives because that is something you couldn't and didn't do.  You are probably stuck in some miserable life wishing you could do it all over again.  How's that for being judgemental?  I do, however, feel it's true!! 
Doubt your sanity.
What a fruitcake. The sooner you pathetic losers stop trying to play the victim card and start taking responsibility for your own bodies, abortion rates will drop by 90% at least.

I don't buy the 'oooh - i was dragged into a ditch by a deranged stranger' BS - it's just cliche soap opera melodrama by someone who thought it would buy her a little street cred.

Fortunately, you couldn't be further from the truth as far as my happiness level goes. I'm downright giddy. I love my live. (Except that scam artist Obama is going to try tax my a## off because I make over 250K. That kind of peeves me.)

Maybe you were projecting your horrid little life onto me. Didn't work.

So, laughing cow, how many babies have you killed? Please, when you get to a baker's dozen, have your vagina sewn shut. Obviously you cannot handle the responsibility of procreation.
I don't doubt her story...........
I know 2 people this happened to. My SIL had an abortion. My friend chose to raise the child. They made their choices and lived with them.
Oh, no doubt of that for sure! He thinks
he's gonna "save us from ourselves" because us dumb little Americans don't know what's best for us....HE DO!!

Of course, he also knows there are plenty out there who are more than happy to have the govt do all their thinking for them and are dumb enough to actually believe that is the government's job in the first place, so he has no trouble passing his crap off to them as something good!!


I don't doubt you really are a chicken....
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No doubt, that's all he would be interested in doing.
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