Okay then don't complain because offshoring has lowered your MT wages. n/m
Posted By: gourdpainter on 2008-12-18
In Reply to: The unions are killing companies, though. That is - main reason Honda can survive and GM cant.nm
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I truly feel that you just lowered yourself
to the same element that you have complained about on this board.
I'm surprised you did this. You normally post decent posts with insight. This link was garbage......and I'm not a Rush follower, an O or pub follower. Just want what's best for everyone.
Congress dems lowered your earnings?
Got any idea how silly you sound? Are you an MT? If so, you might want to consider some other factors, such as companies who are phasing out their US jobs market in favor of outsourcing that of late has put our earnings into a free fall.
A day's wages for a day's food.......... sm
Ring any bells?
No stop to offshoring
Sorry I read an article that said that American only products that was originally in the stimulus package had to be taken out as we are borrowing the money for this stimulus package from the Chinese and the leader of China and Obama had a very tense conversation over that provision. Obama backed off because where else would we borrow the money from. Does that sound like someone who is going to stop offshoring?
Did you hear what he said about OFFSHORING?
We are not getting our jobs back ever!!!!! Supposedly we work a NONSKILLED, LOW WAGE job which needs to be OFFSHORED so that we can become educated to BUILD A WINDMILL.
GIMMIE A BREAK. Sure, I will go back to school to learn SMART ENERGY, oh yeah....there is no class in that.
WHO VOTED FOR THIS GUY? I tell you who has a NONSKILLED job, OBAMA.
If we were being paid bloated wages, maybe, but
if they want to go any lower than they already have gone (I had a truly insulting offer a few weeks back of 0.0625 cpl with 30 years experience), I say let India have it. MTSOs need to be going in the opposite direction and MTs might want to look into unionization themselves. Peronally, I think we are also worth $28/hr and do not consider that to be an exorbitant for MTs or for auto workers, given the COL. JMHO.
McCain is not pro-offshoring. He is for a tax structure...
that enourages businesses to STAY here, not offshore. As I said in post above, we have the second highest corporate/business tax rate in the entire world. Not only does that force our businesses offshore, no foreign enterprises want divisions here either. That is just common sense to me, and it should not be a Democrat or Republican thing. It should be a do what is best for America thing. That is why toeing the party line drives me over the top. I mean both parties. People act like they have to vote Democrat even if they don't think he is the best guy because they will turn to stone if they vote for a Republican. And the same for the other side. It needs to be NOT about the party anymore, and I just wish people would educate themselves and we would start holding politicians responsible, and when they don't do what they say they will do, don't vote them in time after time after time. I just wish politicians would get back to doing the job of taking care of US, not themselves.
If you put an even higher tax on MTSOs, they will just cut our money further or offshore everything. If that is your goal, tax them higher. Makes no sense to me, but if that is your goal..vote Obama. You may get a tax cut, which won't amount to a hill of beans, but it won't matter if you don't have a check at all will it?
Obama is not against offshoring. Have you listened to hm at all?
The global economy....citizen of the world...Didn't he say that the way to combat offshoring was better education so that our children could compete for those jobs? Basically saying that Americans were not qualified for a lot of jobs that were being offshored? Gee, I was SURE I heard him say that!!
Voting against Obama is voting against far left socialism. Voting against Obama is voting against changing my life in a way I don't want it changed. So yeah, I am most definitely, confidently, WHOLE HEARTEDLY voting against Obama.
If he REALLY wanted to stop offshoring he would STOP raising taxes on corporations so that we don't have the second highest corporate tax rate in the world. But if he did that, he could not pay for all his gimmes, now could he?
Yeah, that makes sense. No more tax BREAKS for those who already offshore, and tax them more. Yeah, that would make ME want to bring my business back to America.
That makes NO sense.
No, my wages and retirement have only gone down last two years of
Article on offshoring of records
http://www.latimes.com:80/features/health/medicine/la-fg-philippines-transcribe19-2009apr19,0,902588.story
Okay, I can agree with pressure to stop offshoring...
but at the same time you as a consumer have to be ready to pay higher prices for things...because American workers demand higher salaries for jobs than Indians, Mexicans, Chinese, etc. do. Nothing wrong with that, but the American consumer has to support that by not wanting cheap goods at the stores. We can't have it both ways.
Wrong! He gets away with paying cheaper wages
Joe is looking out for Joe, not Bob, Bill, and Brad who are looking for a "good job." Joe will help Joe if he's making that much, believe you me!
I think we have a right to complain about what is
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That was CAMPAIGN not COMPLAIN..(nm)
You complain about insult and then
And frankly, I didn't see anything the slightest bit insulting to you personally in what he said. At worst, it was a bit sarcastic, perhaps, but sarcasm and insult are NOT the same thing.
Posible new "boon" to the economy? Higher minimum wages??.....PSM
I was just thinking, we did a lot of discussion yesterday about welfare reform, the bloated welfare roles that we have now, and how to end it. How about passing a DECENT, HONEST, REALISTIC minimum wage act that is based on the present economy, the proposed future economay, and will make it more profitable for an American to get a fair-paying job on which he can feed his family, pay his REASONABLE mortgage, pay his bills, etc., instead of having the minimum wage so low that it is actually more profitable for many families to say on welfare, medicaide, and food stamps, along with subsidised housing AND NOT have to juggle three low-paying jobs to do it? Don't you think that if American workers felt they were more faily paid, were being compensated fairly for their efforts, and would bring home enough wages each week to live within comfortable means, that more and more folk would jump off the roles and into a job (of course, we first need the part of the stimulus package to address keeping our companies solvent and employing). Just a thought!!!
So we offer substandard wages and attract more people to welfare???...sm
More of your tax dollars are being spent there than at McDonalds or whatever, if we do not get more people working, we also have LESS people paying into the tax system, both federal and state, which subsidises OTHER necessitites. And people complain about the immigrant workers taking jobs? Because of substandard wages and the increased benefit of being on Welfare, food stamps, subsidized housing, and Medicaide, it seems only immigrants WANT to do these insultingly low-paying jobs. I am talking about a wage where a family can be together, both parents are not working two jobs, and thus not taking care of the kids, another social problem, and employed taxpayers are also CONSUMERS who drive the economy, but if you are not making a living wage, you cannot participate in the economy. How is this wrong?
Did you complain when she moderated it in 2004?
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I'll wait and see if that happens before I complain.
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You just called me a bigot, and you have the nerve to complain
Try being happy that people died so you have a right to complain
*FOR WHAT??? So people halfway around the globe can have democracy? Please....*
That is about as selfish a statement I've heard as of late.
What if the soldiers had gotten *so tired* in World War I or II?
What if the revoluntary soldiers had gotten *so tired* in the Revoluntionary war?
Your world would be different today, that is, if you would have existed at all.
Even if you have family or friends in Iraq or Afghanistan right now your complaining and fussing about all the work they are doing is doing nothing to help them. Support them. Send them a letter or a care package. It would make a soldier's day, be it someone you know or someone you don't, and it would certainly brighten your mood in the process. You don't have to support the president or the war, but your frustrations can be turned around into producing something good for someone else.
The caps was so that you who complain about abortion posts...
could just pass it up. But I guess that would be just too much to expect. What it was meant to illustrate is medical fact, nothing to do with religion, at the point of many abortions it is a well formed child, moving, heart beating, all those pesky things that classify we human beings as alive. I do realize that that makes it somewhat more difficult to defend...but I am sure you will find a way.
Nor do I understand the pile on mentality of some of you who post on this board. Instead of posting the issues that are important to you, you seem content to bash me for posting the ones that are important to me.
Abortion is a political issue. Politicians make laws, last time I looked.
Pro lifers are not all "religious." Do some research and you will see that. It is a moral issue. Do you think you have to be religious to be a moral person??
Pray tell, why don't YOU move on? Stop replying to any posts that you don't want to continue. This is all within all of you pile-on flamers' ability to control. Just don't reply. What is so hard about that? I do not post to argue...I post for information. It is YOU who wants to argue. If you don't answer the posts, who is going to argue?
I repeat...it is a free board, and abortion is a political issue.
Open another thread with something you want to discuss instead of taking potshots at me. Much more productive use of your time.
You only complain about 'bad language' if it's aimed at
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