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Pathetic is not wanting to know the truth

Posted By: At least I'm not the only one who wants to know on 2008-11-28
In Reply to: Your fear of fact is - positively pathologic. nm

FOS back at you - whatever it means. I'm sure it's not nice.


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Wanting the whole truth is fanatical?
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Wanting truth and accountability = hatred?sm
Dissent, not loyalty to the almighty State is patriotic.
No, curious as in wanting to know...
and it is obvious what you are "compelled" to do.
Not as scary as someone wanting to...
figure out "which factions are involved" before acting (when asked about AL Qaeda).

And I am sure Obama can emphathize with the statement "clumsy word choices" this morning.
That's right. I'm funny that way, wanting to keep
It's called logical thinking. Try it sometime - you'll like it!
My opinion - Not wanting to debate -- SM
Honestly, I believe that two things are going on here:

1) The American people do not have the absolute truth -- neither from the media nor from any government branch nor the President, any committee, etc. The whole truth about any issue has never been put out there.

2) MOST, not all, but MOST people do no really want truth. For people to have truth, they have to be responsible for accepting it (in which USUALLY - not always - is in conflict with how they are currently living and they just don't want the conscience about their own actions) or the responsibility for acting on it. People do not want to have to DO anything; they want others to do it for them. People do not want to have to make changes in their life; they want others to make those changes. People do not want to have ownership of where they could better be involved with their own community, government, country - they want others to do that.

Without the truth and the willingness to accept it for whatever it is, the American people will never have a stable ground to make the next progressive step.

I would say the next issue at hand would be that people simply have different priorities. I'm not referring to the choices we are actually making in our lives, but in what we are saying we want our government to provide, obtain, offer, and protect for us. I see many people SAYING they want the government to "do something" about an issue; however, these very people do not make that choice for themselves personally. Example: I know MANY people who want "the government" to "do something" about the violence and sex on TV, music, etc. However, those same people attend R-rated movies and buy them at Wal-Mart and bring them into their homes, and think some of the roughest or raciest shows are fabulous. It's a contradiction. They do not want to be personally responsible, but they want to demand that others and the government make provisions.

This is just one example of many where I see a contradiction in what we SAY we want and what we are willing to actually be self-responsible for.
Since when did wanting to see ALL Americans prosper
Are you telling me that it is a an either/or situation? In other words, the American dream is only available to those who are willing to setp over their fellow citizens to grab it? If that's the case, sign me up for a little socialism. Sheesh.
Can someone tell me why everyone says Obama is wanting the elderly to die?

I keep reading posts about letting elderly people die.  I did not get to listen to the speech last night, so I do not know what the subject matter was concerning this point and would like to know.


Thanks!


Ron Paul supporter? Not wanting to fight, just asking.
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Maybe, but with most terrorists wanting to see Barack elected, that
Wonder why they want him elected so much?
I do disagree about not wanting to give to those who CAN'T work. sm

My sister had brain damage from birth and has never been able to keep a job.  She is able to live on her own, but she barely survives. Our mother, who is retired, took a part-time job to continue to take care of my sister.  What happens when my mother can't do that anymore or dies?  I guess it will be my turn to take care of my sister.  What about people who don't have anyone to do that for them? Do you realize the meager amounts people are given right now barely enable them to survive? You (poster below complaining about giving to those who can't/won't/don't work) would not be able to survive.  You obviously have no idea what hunger feels like or what it is like to go to bed at night as a child with no dinner, no snack, and hope for breakfast the next morning.  I will most certainly give to those who can't work.


another liberal wanting money...waaaa....nm
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Wanting to see W and his party bite the dust
half (and probably more like 60%) of Americans seem to share. By your (il-)logic, that makes them all jihadists? At least 100,000 Iraqi civilians have died behind W's war of lies. We are making air strikes into 2 other soverign nations in the midst of a tanking republican presidential campaign. Ever hear of a war of attrition...the kind that wears down a nation from the inside because of the economic drain it places on its population? From where I sit, W played right into the hands the terrorist dealt. Continuation of such saber-rattling imperialism makes terrorist predictions a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Bombing countries into democracy, illegal occupations, kangaroo trials and lynching of leaders who do not bend to US will which fail to follow their OWN rule of law, military presence in defiance of overwhelming popular mandates that seek to take back control of their own country, flagrant disregard for human rights, clandestine interrogations, torture and humiliation of POWs not afforded the benefit of a trial, selective stateside vote suppression that overwhelming favors the party that is on its way out and the litany of other such violations of our historic basic principles make a MOCKERY of our own claims to be the greatest democracy on the face of the earth.

Live by example. It's simple. If we are not able to live up to and be accountable for our own basic tenants, we will self-destruct with or without any help from FUTURE leaders.
Personally, lately....I've been wanting to smack....sm
my husband up the side of the head.

He's been saying for weeks that now's the time to buy, and that if we had extra money in our accounts, he'd do it....just this morning, he said he's buy tons of Citigroup, GM, and Ford, as if you do, and hold onto it long enough, you could make a killing.



Needless to say, though....we don't have enough to do this at the moment....he refuses to buy on margin, so we'll just sit here and watch the stock markets.


Now IS the time to buy, though, that's very, very true......

Not honoring her son by wanting answers, and speaking what she knows he felt.sm
He joined the army in 2002 before the Iraqi war began, so it's plenty possible he didn't agree with the Iraqi war.

No logical thinking person would have thought that Bush would focus his attention after 9-11 on Iraq.
Just had a friend last night wanting to use my extra bedroom -
NO WAY - would rather take on 10 extra jobs than let somebody else stay in my house with me again....

have tried it and tried it and it never works...
The truth sounds rude when put bluntly but still is the truth. nm
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People wanting less gov't interference in their lives (CONSERVATIVES) are being labeled......sm
Those who attend the Tea Parties are being labeled "right wing extremists." As an organizer of a Tea Party in my town, I am going to wear that label with pride. Below is the quote from the Dept. of Homeland Security:

On the eve of the nationwide tax day Tea Parties, Barack Obama's DHS has issued a "rightwing" threat assessment to warn of the "current economic and political climate fueling resurgence in radicalization and recruitment" for "rightwing extremism." Who are these extremists? According to the report, adherants are rimarily "hate-oriented" or "antigovernment" but also include "individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration."

Personally, I think it is more than quite a coincidence that Obama's DHS is warning of the "rightwing" threat on the eve of the Tea Parties! This is a blatant attempt to taint the efforts of those who are standing for the patriotic, idea-based resistance.

Anything or anyone who does not toe the Obamarama line or has not drunk the kook-aid, is automatically considered a "right wing extremist."

There is a 10 page document put out by an office which is a branch of the Dept Homeland Security called "The Extremism and Radicalization Branch, Homeland Environment Threat Analysis Division. Coordinated with the FBI.

There are 4 words that should make you very nervous....COORDINATED WITH THE FBI. Below is the link to download or read the PDF file.

http://api.ning.com/files/UNNlkOVukw8cXztJc4bDEq2ztrm9owekwvHofmLwYgxLlpwX8*h1av8amHehbYkmt3Qvxny16Gh1ob8gFYeRrw2HVq-joU7Y/hsarightwingextremism0904071.pdf

Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Remember,Rome decayed from within.

Ok, off my soapbox.


i agree. of course, the white male would be called a racist too for not wanting a minority to succed
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Liberal truth vs. Conservative truth.
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Pathetic, isn't it?

They want TOTAL control over when we're born, who we love, which God we worship, when we die, and now they want to control what we're allowed to think is funny.  Soon, they'll want a mandatory chip to be implanted in every American who doesn't agree with them in order to whip us into submission. 


How pathetic....sm
That's laughable.


Next you're going to spin it that republicana framed the son of the democrat congressman that hacked into her email.



Good grief!!!




Pathetic.
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joy is pathetic
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There is nothing pathetic about
the human instinct of survival. They've been sold up the river 9 ways to Sunday over the past 6 decades in those so-called peace initiatives, lied to continuously by Israel and western peace brokers, occupied, controlled, invaded, their country shrunken and cut to shreds, starved, held hostage, demonized and dehumanized by their hostile, blood-thirsty captors. THAT is pathetic. Expecting an occupied population that has been subjected to this kind of cruelty to fall in line and behave intelligently, rationally or logically is also pathetic, and pretty STUPID, if you ask me.

You know how the saying goes. Desperate times call for desperate measures. If you torture an entire population of people over this extended period of time, don't you think it is a bit, shall we say, PATHOLOGIC to expect anything less than violence, contempt, determination and resolve to destroy the perpetrators in return?

It's not your genocidal military whose notice they seek. The whole world is watching your barbaric nation do what it does best...Goliath bullies David into submission, leaving their killing fields soaked with rivers of fresh blood and scattered with human remains, buried under the rubble of countless bombed-out, shell-shocked buildings and whole neighborhoods laid flat in their dust. Lebanon is still pretty fresh in their memories.

The Palestinians know full well the sacrifices they have to make. God knows, they have been making them now for generations. But whether you are big enough to admit it or not, it is Israel who pays the ultimate price in this tragedy. Just like Bush squandered the whole world's sympathy in the wake of 9/11 by using it as an excuse to butcher and maim in the name of democracy as a cover for imperial conquest, Israel has spent all its compassion capital in the aftermath of the Holocaust to become one of the most reviled nations on the face of the earth. There is no effective way of dealing with that, my dear, at least not in your lifetime.

Despite Israel's best efforts, they have not been able to break Palestinian spirit of unity and/or national identity.
To Beyond pathetic
How fitting. You really didn't read the message. Looks like your one of the Obama cult worshippers. I didn't say happyness, joy, and hope creeps me out (in fact I didn't even use the word hope). I said the cult worshipping of Obama creeps me out. Think you really need to lay off the Kool-Aid and come back to earth.
Pathetic....(sm)

This is actually an old e-mail.  It first came out not long after the election.  So, here's my question.  Does this refer to the millions of jobs lost during the previous administration or just those within the last 60+ days?  Less than that if you count when the e-mail actually came out.


If you're going to go back and point fingers, at least point them in the right direction -- that would be towards the guy who not only lost jobs (and did nothing about it) but lives as well in a war that was completely unnecessary that did absolutely nothing but cost lives and run up the deficit.  (Interesting that Bush didn't bother to put the cost of the wars on the balance sheet, by the way.) 


This board has turned into an absolute repuke joke.


Pathetic!
I feel sorry for our country because of all the traitors residing here now...disguised as reporters.
LOL. So right... they are pathetic.
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Right back at you....it is just as pathetic that you...
as a group with that group bully mentality trying to bully the one opposition voice into submission, all the while preaching about individual rights. Please. You don't give a darn about individual rights. What a joke. Par for the course for left-wing do-as-we-say, not-as-we-do. Our way or the highway.
That was kind of pathetic.
I'm reminded daily on this board, how most democrats refuse to allow any opinion other than their own, without some form of negative name calling or put down.

Most of you dems are downright mean and nasty.

I thought you were the party of hope, change, love, and social equality for everyone.

Seems if one is republican or in the middle, leaning to the right, you have no rights at all, in you dems' minds.

Unbelievable.




petty and pathetic.
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Keep up the pathetic arguments. It does not help
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That's pathetic. (where's my hammer?)

Are you really THAT ignorant? I'm sorry for you. Pathetic.
That is just plain prejudiced.
Do you not understnd just how pathetic
Grasping at straws 10 days out will get you where?
The only one pathetic are people like yourself!
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Pathetic parrot. Get over yourself.
Your 'new government' is nothing more than Clinton 2.0

Obama sold you all a bill of goods. Change. Hooray. Only took a matter of weeks for him to admit that the only 'change' was ... well ... him. Well, duh, Sherlock. By his standards, even electing Daffy Duck would have been a 'change.' I kind of think the people were expecting a bit more.

But, yes, Dems, let's let Big Government 'fix' all our problems. Let's start by taking away the credit cards and zero-down home loans that all the lazy slackers were given to 'stimulate minority homeownership.'

Gee. That sure worked out well.

Can't wait to see what's next.

Maybe Michelle will put out a cook book - 1001 recipes for government cheese.
Embarrassing and Pathetic

This is only the second time that I have posted, and it is only out of dismay that I do so now.  I am absolutely dumbfounded, shocked, amazed, and disgusted by the utter and complete



cluelessness, simplemindedness, closet racism, backwardness, and close-mindedness displayed in numerous messages on this board over the past few days.  It is people like you who are truly the scary ones!!   It is truly sad that at a time of crisis like this that we cannot come together.  After eight years of Republicans having their way and making blunder after blunder, which has lead to this, why can't our new president be given the support, the respect, and the chance to move the country out of this mess? 


 


It is amazing to me that as long as we were being lead by a president of utter incompetence, out of touch and completely wrong, that you were perfectly content.  You were perfectly



content with our economy sinking, content with innocent men and women losing their lives fighting a war that should never have been fought, content with our educational system languishing, with millions of your fellow citizens losing their homes and losing their jobs, and content with the country being the joke of the world and the target of intense loathing and hatred.


 


Now that we have a president who actually has the intelligence to make informed decisions and is surrounding himself with people of equal intelligence, a person who is inclusive and



realizes that all of us need to succeed so that our country can succeed, a man who wants to restore our standing in the world, who cares about our children in the inner cities as well as our children in rural America, who understands that diplomacy matters much more than "tough" cowboy bluster, who embodies those "family values" that those very superior



conservative folks so love to talk about, a person who  understands that a good education for ALL of our children makes our country better and more secure, a person who understands that our environment matters to our national security, NOW you have the nerve to be frightened.  What



utter drivel!!


 


Some have had the nerve and the gall to compare him to Hitler.  What ridiculous nonsense!!  He is a positive, inspiring person who has allowed millions of children to dream and hope and imagine their future in a way that they did not before.  Hitler he is not, and those statements are truly the dumbest, most asinine statements that I have ever read on this board.  What stupidity and hate you are spewing!!  He is black, big deal!!  Get over it. 



He is intelligent, compassionate, has great ideas, and is open to hearing others' viewpoints.  He loves our country just as you say you do. 


 


You should at least have the nerve to speak your truth, which is that you are afraid because he is black.  In case you didn't know, there are millions of black people who are intelligent and bright, creative, hardworking, law abiding, family oriented, well spoken and articulate, and they too love our country just like you and just like our president.


 


I do wholeheartedly agree that God will protect us,.  He will continue to protect our country from people outside our borders who wish to do us harm, as well as protect us from those within who let ignorance, hate, and bigotry cloud common sense and good judgment.


 


  



 


 


It is pretty sad and pathetic
that people are suffering daily and are losing hope and all our congress can do is pass bills full of pork for ignorant things like why pigs smell.  It is pretty obvious to me why many people are participating in the tea parties.  Obviously a lot of people have a problem with this.  This isn't extremist behavior.  This is telling our government to stop the crazy spending.  This is just WAY out of hand.  For people who don't get this....I just feel sorry for you.  Obviously you would rather bankrupt the country and continue to praise Obama than to hold our government accountable for all the out of control spending that they are doing.  You have no problem bringing up the amount of money Bush spent in 8 years but when it comes to facing reality about Obama and the amount he has spent in a few months and how it exceeds any spending Bush did....you turn a deaf ear and a blind eye.  Double standards.  I don't care who is doing the spending whether it be dems or pubs.  We don't have any more.....both sides need to stop spending....PERIOD!
Not as pathetic as your interpretation of
Or do you think there are not extremists among the pro-life movement? (And before you start your usual rebuttal, I am not an Obama supporter, and no, I don't think all pro-lifers are extremists.)
I would call that a pathetic try....sm

The funny thing is that you are obviously soooo out of touch with the black community that you don't even have a clue how much of an insult your message is.  I love it when people try to pretend to be black on a post, especially when done badly, because that's when you see true ignorance.  And before you start proclaiming your "black-ness" and trying to be all indignant, you should realize that after that post, its quite obvious who and what you are, regardless of what you say. 


This poor little Sam person is really pathetic. (s/m)
It seems this person's whole identity & self-esteem revolves around monopolizing this little medical transcriptionists' politics forum. Seems like a waste of your time & energy. If you REALLY care so much about your views & your party, instead of wasting your words on an obscure little politics forum, why aren't you out volunteering for your candidates? Your 24/7 comebacks to nearly EVERY post on this board that disagrees with YOUR beliefs suggests that:
a) You have no job.
b) You do not sleep, eat, or go to the bathroom.
c) You absolutely CANNOT let a person with different ideas have the last word.

Therefore, it seems that you would be the ideal choice for ANY political party to be out canvassing your neighborhood, organizing fundraisers, distributing propaganda (um, I mean literature), etc. to support your candidate.

So the question is, if you are such a 'talented' and 'knowlegeable' political afficionado, why do you waste your time & energy here?
You should know. Obama sheep are pathetic.
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Pathetic, self-absorbed little housewife.
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You people are really pathetic. You always attack
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You are wasting your breath on these pathetic
people.  They have no life, or such miserable lives that they have all the time in the world to scour the Internet for more garbage to spout, so now this is what consumes their lives.  How sad -- NOT!  The people have spoken.  If you're not happy with the outcome, then MOVE OUT OF THE COUNTRY.  Maybe you can start a revolution somewhere else. 
I meant pathologic, not pathetic.
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Pathetic witch hunts!
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Turnout for tea parties is pathetic!
I just saw coverage of some of the Mad Hatter's tea parties, and the turnout is pathetic. I also don't see any government agents harassing the crowds, as some paranoid posters here claimed they would. Much ado about nothing!
Gore is laughable and pathetic anyway.
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