Presidents have been "slandered" since there's been presidents

Posted By: Patty on 2009-06-18
In Reply to: So much hatred in this posting, despicable.. - ()

President Bush took a beating. And you think Obama is somehow above being criticized???? Funny...

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Obama - the poster-boy for wimps everywhere
- What a hate filled post. - Sorry for you...
  - Tell ya what. When I need your sympathy - I'll yank your chain.
  - There is not one thing in the post that leads to hate - just me
- Wha do you suggest Obama should have done? - ()
- Agree, posterboy - Pugmom
  - So much hatred in this posting, despicable.. - ()
    - Where were you when Bush was being "slandered"... - watcher
      - Bush was rightfully slandered, not by me, - ()
    - There is no hatred in that post - just me
    - It is not slander. It is freedom of speech - Backwards typist
    - Presidents have been "slandered" since there's been presidents - Patty
      - I agree with you 100% Patty - just me
      - why do we have to continue with what others before - ()
        I see nothing wrong - Patty
        I was talking about the slander that is going on on this board! Wake up, Patty!..nm - ()
        No you were not - it's obvious you were talking about the presidents - see message
        Sure ya were.... - Patty
        And I was saying that in my opinion it is - ()
        Actually ANY slander is despicable, also in our - ()
        and yet you continue... - cj
        Patty: that's what you are believing, you with your 'biblical, caged' mind..nm - ()
        I am an atheist and yet I agree with Patty so find - Victoria
        How can my world be snmall when I am an - ()
        You certainly are no independent - me
        No, you are wrong, kow can you know - ()
        Is tht so? So I assume that you are a flip-flop, - ()
        How do you assume that my world is small? - ()
        And even though - Patty
        Excuse me? I would hardly call Obama - ()
        YIKES! If you would not call Barry from Chicago a far liberal.... - watcher
        a far-liberal would probably be someone - ()
        LOL - Patty
        look beyond your Bible, so that you can - ()
        Everyone has something they believe in.... - watcher
      - read my post farer down......sm - ()
        Maybe... - Patty
    - it is called freedom of speech - nm - cj
      - this is going too far...........nm - ()
        umm, no... - cj
        freedom of speech excludes and stops at slander and foul language...sm - ()
        you do not know what you are talking about - see message - just me
        The 1st Amendment - for your reading
        if you accept and confuse slander as freedom of speech - ()
        because slander is the 1st stage of violence and abuse...sm - ()
        utter nonsense - where in the world did you come up with this line - just me
        sm... - cj
        And many, many times... - Patty
- Agree wholeheartedly - Old part-timer
  - And I also AGREE.. - Patty
  - Agree also. He is a leader who wants everyone to - like him...eventually will bite us all.nm
- LOL.....(sm) - Just the big bad
  - Hi, JTBB, I posted exactly the same thought s a couple - ()
  - Not quite - see message - just me
    - Wrong again.....(sm) - Just the big bad
      - No you are wrong - - just me
    - Not right, as far as I can remember 59% voted for Obama...nm - ()
      - A distortion of the facts - see message - just me
      - With the help of ACORN he got 59% - - nm
  - Sorry...but he is not MY President. He is THE President.... - watcher
    - Iran's meddling accusations....sm - ()
    - yes, he IS your president, and he does not care a bit - ()
      - what?? - cj
        my reply was for watcher', not for you. - ()
        nothing of substance to say so.. - cj
        I put my 'substance' in all my posts, I hate - ()
    - If Netanyahu continues to bomb Gaza, - ()
    - Ahmadinejad is doiing what Khatami is telling him to do.. - ()
    - If you are a US citizen, he is YOUR president - sorry about that chief - nm - rolf
      - I'll try to make this a bit clearer for you - just me
      - Sticks and stones, my friend. Didn't vote for the man... - watcher
        **Sticks and stones?** How bizarre. - Which is it?
        The sticks and stones were the smart-A (aleck, not a$$).... - watcher
        every US president is more or less a puppet...nm - ()
        If they had been elected, absolutely they would be my President - - Amanda
        Okay....I don't have to like him or support him, but he IS MY President.... - watcher
  - I know you don't expect an answer. They just bash, bash, bash - But don't have anything positive to suggest
    - as said: jealous and hateful losers...nm - ()
    - After all the Bush bashing this is refreshing.... - watcher
      - Hmmmm......(sm) - Just the big bad
        Drink some more Kool-Aid!! - nm
        hmmmm.... - watcher
        There are so many false statements in your post... - ()
        Microscope in hand...LOL...(sm) - Just the big bad
        I second your post and 'watcher's post - ()
        I woulld call that one a slam dunk! - SNAP
        The slam dunk was by "Watcher" - nm.
        wrong, full of wrong statements, see my upper post...nm - ()
        Then why did you second watchers post - above? ?????
        I wrote: I second JTBB's post, 'watcher's post is misinformed crap...sm - ()
        Sorry. My bad. Didn't realize - there was more inside
        no, it was my bad, because I forgot to put - ()

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Comparing the two presidents

is a little like comparing a bass (Bush) to a great white shark (Iranian president).

Presidents do not yield

to political blackmail -- Obama did the right thing. He believes his time is better spent letting the entire bleppin' congress work the on the issue and then vote when they come up with a plan. McCain is just making another grandstand attempt that has fallen embarrassingly flat.

I was not talking about 16 other presidents...... sm
I am talking about Obama.

I thought the general consensus of this board, or at least the Obama supporters here, was that we were to not look at history but rather to the future. (At least that is what I was told when I posted that those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat their mistakes.)

You really should have watched the "YouTube bites." It was Obama himself saying that he did not believe a person that is unqualified for a job should apply for it and that was his reasoning for saying that he did not see himself running for a national office in 2008. Since you didn't watch the video, I believe you are unqualified to comment on it.

They do that with ALL presidents. Usually, initially
nm

Oh, so you don't care if this has been done before with other presidents, . . . sm
but you do care if it has not been done before. Why? Either way, the naysayers will have something to whine about. The only reason there is such a big deal being made is because there has not been a president in recent history that has had been under so much scrutiny in his first 100 days. Even if he were to solve world peace, find a cure for cancer AND turn water into wine, they would still complain and find fault.

So have all the other Christian presidents, nm
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Not all presidents do have a gathering
Just because they served the Kool-Aid in the Bush white house for the last 8 years, doesn't mean that's what is supposed to happen. Obama signed a national proclamation honoring the day, which is what many presidents have done since Truman created it 50 some years ago. Not everyone needs to drape themselves in their religion to honor it.

All presidents have done things....(sm)

in secret. It's never caused such a problem before. I'm not trying to slam Bush, but look at all the stuff we're finding out about his administration (i.e. torture memos, etc). And to top that off, Bush was the one who initially stopped access to the guest list to the WH. When Bush did it the news covered it, but there wasn't a wide spread panic about it....so what's the big deal about Obama doing it?

I'm not saying that I agree with blocking the lists, because I don't, but the point is that both Bush and Obama have done it, so why the panic about just one of them? My guess is that right wing media is pushing the issue and using it as a talking point; basically making the media being the ones who are instilling fear, not Obama.

My point is that prior presidents have had their day..sm
and time when they were covered in mud and IMHO none of it is right, except to say in most cases the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

But, to answer Jeb's and Bush's family mishaps with the what about the Kennedy's line is dodging the point to me.

Bringing up the Lynch and Dean ordeal that's something worth listening to, but you guys just can't let go of old democratic presidents. It's like a thorn still sticking in your side. Everytime something comes up with Bush, you talk about Clinton, or even the Kennedy's, as if that dismisses Bush somehow. Whatever gets you though.

Maybe it's time to dump the presidents and
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16 presidents with less experience than Obama...
http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Info/experience.html
1. Abraham Lincoln,
2. FDR
3. Theodore Roosevelt
4. Woodrow Wilson
5. John Adams
6. Grover Cleveland
7. Ronald Reagan
8. Howard Taft
9. Bill Clinton
10. George Bush
11. Chester A. Arthur
12. Herbert Hoover
13. Jimmy Carter
14. Benjamin Harrison
15. Ulysses S. Grant
16. William Harrison

BTW, I do not make such important decisions as selecting a president based on YouTube sound bytes, so no, I did not bother with the video. My vote is between me and my candidate, based on exactly the things I listed in the previous post, which I stand by 100%.

Hogwash. See 16 presidents post above.
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Haven't all the other Christian presidents? nm
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No you were not - it's obvious you were talking about the presidents
because you said so in your message! Sheesh - this is about as good as David Letterman saying he was talking about the "other" Palin girl.

Democratic presidents 'suck' in the eyes
of Reps, and Republican presidents 'suck' in the eyes of Dems.....and round and round it goes...

There were assassination attempts on WHITE Presidents. Did the assassinators
think they might not really be white? or that they were too young to run a country?

much ado about nothing...reporter posed question as, "had he spoken to any *living* presidents?..
i agree the reporter's question was absolutely LAME..."has he spoken to any LIVING past presidents?" um...as opposed to talking to dead ones? I thought his response was quick-witted considering the idiocy of the question--at least he didn't put the reporter on the spot and embarrass her...instead he made his first gaffe as POTUSE and already apologized. let's hope the reporters ask SMARTER questions at the next conference.

I love democrats! I love most of the past democratic presidents (sm)
I would love for there to be a good democrat I could vote for. I want good leadership and I want change. But I truly believe to purposely ignore a symbol speaks volumes. He is not just asking the symbol to wait, he is ignoring it on purpose. Avoiding it on purpose. Why do you think that is? There is a reason. Can you not see it?

Where were you when Bush was being "slandered"...
on this board? Where was your rabid defense of the man in the presidency at that time? You were curiously silent. I guess Bush didn't make a tingle run up your leg? But he WAS President.